Re: Stephania Root: Inflammation Control and heart symptoms

[Guest guest]

>My only doubt about stephania springs from SB's caution with Lyme

carditis: I do get arrhythmic symptoms sometimes, also palpitations

and 'airhunger' [ don't know if this adds up to carditis].

Does anyone else get similar symptoms to me, but is trying stephania?

> hi muriel,

> as buhner says in his book, the only reason he did not include

stephania in

> the core protocol is because it's difficult to find reliable supply.

at the

> time he wrote the book, he did not know of any sources for stephania in

> capsules or tablets in the usa. only sources for bulk powdered

herbs, which

> people then put into capsules themselves using manual capsule

machines, as

> discussed in archive. there are also a few sources for stephania in

tincture

> form.

>

> last year i discovered a capsule form of stephania extract called

> Inflammation Control, from Vitamin Research Products, vrp. i wrote

to buhner

> about it and he said it looked great. i've posted several times this

info

> with buhner's suggestions for doses of inflammation control and

where to buy

> at 20% off retail. search archives for more info.

>

> regarding using Inflammation Control:

> i asked buhner about dose for inflammation control (IC). he suggested

> starting with one cap and slowly increasing (as usual). for the max dose

> (equivalent to the usual 16 caps of other herbs for 150 pound

person), he

> suggested only 6 caps of IC (because it is so much more concentrated

> extract.)

>

> i am currently taking 1 cap, 3xday of inflammation control, plus 2 caps

> 3xday of whole stephania that i cap myself from Plum Flower bulk

herb. this

> is partly to reduce cost and partly to benefit from the additional

> consituents in the whole herb that are not in the IC extract.

>

> try these links for more info and search archive:

>

> /message/147

>

> /message/2013

>

> http://www.illnessisoptional.com/ace/product.asp?ProdID=18655

>

> buhner recommends the plain, original Inflammation control NOT the

Advanced

> version.

>

> blessings on your healing journey,

> kendra

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From:

> [mailto: ]On Behalf Of murielpippin

>

> Does anyone know of a source for Stephaina Root tablets or capsules?

> Many Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

hi carolyn,

fyi, i've had severe air hunger for years, which sometimes i thought of as

more of a babesia symptom, not necessarily related to heart (altho of course

everything is interrelated, heart and lung especially). the air hunger has

actually gotten noticibly better, altho still an issue.

i had severe pains in my chest heart area for about a year, including trip

to emergency to rule out heart attack--all right before starting buhner. but

since starting buhner protocol, the heart pain symptoms are all gone. i did

not have specifically palpitations or arrhythmia.

may all become clear when the time is ripe.

kendra

-----Original Message-----

From:

[mailto: ]On Behalf Of carolyntriance

>My only doubt about stephania springs from SB's caution with Lyme

carditis: I do get arrhythmic symptoms sometimes, also palpitations

and 'airhunger' [ don't know if this adds up to carditis].

Does anyone else get similar symptoms to me, but is trying stephania?

> hi muriel,

> as buhner says in his book, the only reason he did not include

stephania in

> the core protocol is because it's difficult to find reliable supply.

[Guest guest]

>Hi Kendra,

Thanks for the info; I too have had the air hunger for a long time and

it does seem to be worse at certain times of the year, especially late

Autumn [Fall], so I have linked it to candida in my mind.

It was 's description of carditis on Page 51 that made me

wonder if it's part of carditis.

Glad to hear that your heart symptoms have improved,

Best Wishes,

Carolyn

> hi carolyn,

> fyi, i've had severe air hunger for years, which sometimes i thought

of as

> more of a babesia symptom, not necessarily related to heart (altho

of course

> everything is interrelated, heart and lung especially). the air

hunger has

> actually gotten noticibly better, altho still an issue.

>

> i had severe pains in my chest heart area for about a year,

including trip

> to emergency to rule out heart attack--all right before starting

buhner. but

> since starting buhner protocol, the heart pain symptoms are all

gone. i did

> not have specifically palpitations or arrhythmia.

>

> may all become clear when the time is ripe.

> kendra

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From:

> [mailto: ]On Behalf Of carolyntriance

>

> >My only doubt about stephania springs from SB's caution with Lyme

> carditis: I do get arrhythmic symptoms sometimes, also palpitations

> and 'airhunger' [ don't know if this adds up to carditis].

> Does anyone else get similar symptoms to me, but is trying stephania?

> > hi muriel,

> > as buhner says in his book, the only reason he did not include

> stephania in

> > the core protocol is because it's difficult to find reliable supply.

>

[Guest guest]

Me too, I had lots of chest pains, heart pains (clearly after

exercise), air hunger etc. Sometimes it's not the heart but

intercoastal pains. Cardiac symptoms faded quite fast after Buhner's

protocol, but air hunger took much longer.

I think in my case was initially babesia, then I related it as herxes,

then in the end as metal intoxication. It gradually ended with months

of metal detoxing.

Selma

[Guest guest]

>Hi Selma,

I can't remember if you ever took stephania alongside these symptoms??

Hope your preventative protocol post being bitten is going OK,

Best Wishes,

Carolyn

> Me too, I had lots of chest pains, heart pains (clearly after

> exercise), air hunger etc. Sometimes it's not the heart but

> intercoastal pains. Cardiac symptoms faded quite fast after Buhner's

> protocol, but air hunger took much longer.

>

> I think in my case was initially babesia, then I related it as herxes,

> then in the end as metal intoxication. It gradually ended with months

> of metal detoxing.

>

> Selma

>