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We had summer services for our daughter who has Dysraxia,

she is 8 now, doing well, but we had to " push " to get her

the services she needs. Make a point that without summer

services she may loose what she has worked so hard to

accomplish. Hope this helps.

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I think it is 60 days. Be sure to call them directly because if you don't they

can claim to not have known about it.

OLSBY@... wrote:

> I live in NJ and my son will be entering the " Extended School

> Program " starting in July. My first meeting was in November, the

> second, when he was evluated, was in March and my meeting with the

> Social Worker was also in March. My question is-how long do they

> have to write up his IEP?

>

> Ilene

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hi

each state has different regs.

check with your doe and ptia

hugs

sharon in pa at

IEP_guide

> I live in NJ and my son will be entering the " Extended School

> Program " starting in July. My first meeting was in November, the

> second, when he was evluated, was in March and my meeting with the

> Social Worker was also in March. My question is-how long do they

> have to write up his IEP?

>

> Ilene

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Hi Ilene,

According to the NJDOE Parental Rights in Special Education handbook, you

have the right to:

Have the IEP implemented within 90 days of the school's receipt of you

consent for the first evaluation

So, the IEP should be written before the end of the 90 day period.

But, it wouldn't hurt to call the DOE Special Education Unit and ask.

The number is (609) 292-0147

Diane

Mom to 2(apraxia, hyptonia, SI), Jessie 9(ADHD/ODD), and

12(ADD, possible LD)

Bellmawr (Camden County), NJ

OLSBY@... wrote:

> I live in NJ and my son will be entering the " Extended School

> Program " starting in July. My first meeting was in November, the

> second, when he was evluated, was in March and my meeting with the

> Social Worker was also in March. My question is-how long do they

> have to write up his IEP?

>

> Ilene

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This year Chance got his IEP. After fighting the school last year when

we were in the other town, and them placing him in kindergarten again,

we moved. This school was wonderful this year (except for summer

school, which is a different staff). And I was well prepared, thanks

entirely due to and Libby for their wonderful ideas. If it wasnt

for the 2 of them I wouldnt have known where to begin, or have the

courage to even speak up.

Amy

<Hi Amy,

Have you looked into an IEP for Chance at school, meetings with all

school personnel, etc? is an expert on this and can tell you more.

~ Gretchen

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In a message dated 8/16/01 7:42:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

> If anyone out there has been through mediation and has any inside info they

> could share I would appreciate it!! These people don't know who there

> dealing

> with. I will not give up until my son gets what he is entitled to. I'm even

> thinking of going to the Bernardsville News and telling them our story. I'm

> so angry.

>

>

My sister in law went through the same thing with her district and the

director of Summit Speech School was a big help to her. Maybe she can guide

you through this too.

Good luck.

a mom and SLP in NJ

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This is one of the most important moments of your life. It has already been

determined what your child needs/will receive. If you agree with that, no

problem. If you do not agree with their plan, you are in for the fight of

your life. Read all you can, search the archives here and contact as many of

the people on this list as you can. You need informatiion and fast. Good luck

and remember whatever you agree to is set in stone for a year.

michele

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Michele,

An IEP can be changed at any time during the school year. If you feel

that something has changed then write a letter to your case manager

and they have to consider your request. They have to get back to you

in a certain # of days.

E.g. After I received our dev. pediatricians recommendations I

requested an IEP meeting. They considered her recommendations and

changed it. I then received a PT eval and they changed it again. Of

course they never make it easy!

As a parent you are a member of the child study team and take an

active role in this process. No one know your child as well as you so fight for

what your child is entitled to

> and remember whatever you agree to is set in stone for a year.

>

> michele

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I am in the state of Pennsylvania. We haven't written up an IEP yet, because I'm

going to hold off at least until Fall for preschool (maybe later if the speech

services are still going to be only 2x/week, one of them being group). Anyway,

my

question-the coordinator would really like to do the IEP soon (partly because

she's

going on maternity leave), as much as 6 months ahead of time. I declined because

I

know there will be huge changes in my daughter in that amount of time. She tells

me

that's ok the IEP *isn't* set in stone and can be changed at any time? Is this

not

true?

Barbara

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Hi Barbara, I am also in PA... My son has always had

an IEP.. I would never have it that he would be

without one. IEP is a legal document and your child's

IEP Team must follow what is in this legal document.

You as a parent have every right to call an IEP and/or

IEP REVIEW.. Their is a time line to when an IEP is

update by IU or School District.. Getting info. on

Chapter 14 will help with that. Call the PA ED Dept at

1-717-783-6913 and ask them for Chapter 14 & IDEA

info. I hope this helps..

--- Barbara Eckert <borjeckert@...>

wrote:

> I am in the state of Pennsylvania. We haven't

> written up an IEP yet, because I'm

> going to hold off at least until Fall for preschool

> (maybe later if the speech

> services are still going to be only 2x/week, one of

> them being group). Anyway, my

> question-the coordinator would really like to do the

> IEP soon (partly because she's

> going on maternity leave), as much as 6 months ahead

> of time. I declined because I

> know there will be huge changes in my daughter in

> that amount of time. She tells me

> that's ok the IEP *isn't* set in stone and can be

> changed at any time? Is this not

> true?

> Barbara

>

>

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Yeah, I had to sit on the sidelines and I really did feel like an outcast. Like

I said, my school system is behind on many things. But I would rather sit on the

sidelines than have the gym teacher make me do something I couldn't do, like in

middle school.

They had the presidential fitness thing going on, so everyone had to do pull ups

- in front of the rest of the class too. Everyone was sitting on the floor while

the people that had missed the previous class were doing their pull ups, one by

one when she called them up. I was gone (I was gone a lot in middle school, but

the guidance counselor couldn't figure out why I always got sick before gym

class). Anyways, she called me up. She had been informed of my condition, and I

told her I knew I could not do pull ups. She said I sure could and told me to

get up on the chair (there was a chair below the pull up bar - once a kid

grabbed the bar the chair was pulled away so they could dangle). Of course I

tried and ended up falling off the chair in front of all those kids. I was so

mortified. Of course, nothing could be done about it because these person they

want to call a teacher has been there tormenting kids for years.

In my opinion, this should not be happening. I told her clearly that I could not

do it, but she told me to do it anyways. My high school gym class was spent

keeping attendance, keeping score, and watching the other kids have fun. I also

had to write a summary of a Sports Illustrated story every week or so, and give

the teacher all the NFL scores on Monday. I was really glad when they finally

told me I could go to study hall. The only good thing is the school did provide

a physical therapist for me, but she came during my study halls (she couldn't

always fit me in her schedule to do it during my gym class).

I'm sorry for making this so long, but I want to make parents aware that school

may not be doing the best for your child. Talk to your child, and make sure

nothing like this is happening to him/her. And make sure the school is providing

equal opportunities to your child. It's sad that this had to happen to me. But I

guarantee that if I ever have children, they will NOT have to go through this.

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Sorry I don't think the majority of school districts will do the

right thing unless they have to...middle ground or not.

Unfortunately their word in IEP meetings are more weighted than mine.

> > But I believe there is always a middle groud that can be

found,

> eventually, in most cases. If you need ABA for your child, just

> fight for it with the district. they will likely hire a consultant

> and a tutor and provide extra hours one on one for your child if

> that's really needed and justified, and can be proven with

learning

> data. They may never agree to send your child to MOnarch or CCCA,

> but if you can show them that what they are offering is

> inapropriate, they will have to deal with you.

> >

> > Or, do they?

> >

> >

> >

> > pcrawfo1 <PCrawfo1@> wrote:

> > It is either or...however at the preschool level you

> could pay for

> > private preschool, ST and even run a home ABA program on the

> $20,000

> > they allow you to access. It isn't a hard process to get

providers

> > (preschool, ST, tutors, consultants, etc) approved. I don't know

> of

> > ANY school district that is spending that kind of money per

child

> or

> > offering those kinds of services at the preschool level. So for

us

> it

> > was a much better fit to use the scholarship. Sorry I should

have

> > clarified better from the start.

> >

> > The preschool my daughter attends at present has ST included

with

> the

> > tuition...for awhile we used both the preschools st and private

st

> on

> > the scholarship.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> >

>

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What are you up to on the 17th of Oct? Pete will be in

Cleveland and he might have something to say about your email. Last

time we saw him, he took our questions on 3x5 cards. If you don't

mind, I'll write this down and if he answers it, I'll let you know

what he says:

> Unfortunately their word in IEP meetings are more weighted than

mine.

Chris

> > > It is either or...however at the preschool level you

> > could pay for

> > > private preschool, ST and even run a home ABA program on the

> > $20,000

> > > they allow you to access. It isn't a hard process to get

> providers

> > > (preschool, ST, tutors, consultants, etc) approved. I don't

know

> > of

> > > ANY school district that is spending that kind of money per

> child

> > or

> > > offering those kinds of services at the preschool level. So

for

> us

> > it

> > > was a much better fit to use the scholarship. Sorry I should

> have

> > > clarified better from the start.

> > >

> > > The preschool my daughter attends at present has ST included

> with

> > the

> > > tuition...for awhile we used both the preschools st and

private

> st

> > on

> > > the scholarship.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > >

> >

>

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Well, you got to find a way for them to listen to you. In my case, I did have to hire an attorney and that resolved everything very quickly. The district I live in is very supportive toward special education services. So I am really speaking of my experience....hard to argue with that. Everyone has different experiences. I know of others in different districts who have had a longer 'waiting it out' time, and the district kept adding services and modifying them until after a year or so they gave up and gave the child what the parents wanted for her. I guess it's different in each instance.... pcrawfo1 <PCrawfo1@...> wrote: Sorry I don't think the majority of school districts will do the right thing unless they have to...middle ground or not. Unfortunately their word in IEP meetings are more weighted than mine.> > But I believe there is always a middle groud that can be found, > eventually, in most cases. If you need ABA for your child, just > fight for it with the district. they will likely hire a consultant > and a tutor and provide extra hours one on one for your child if > that's really needed and justified, and can be proven with learning > data. They may never agree to send your child to MOnarch or CCCA, > but if you can show them that what they are offering is > inapropriate, they

will have to deal with you. > > > > Or, do they?> > > > > > > > pcrawfo1 <PCrawfo1@> wrote:> > It is either or...however at the preschool level you > could pay for > > private preschool, ST and even run a home ABA program on the > $20,000 > > they allow you to access. It isn't a hard process to get providers > > (preschool, ST, tutors, consultants, etc) approved. I don't know > of > > ANY school district that is spending that kind of money per child > or > > offering those kinds of services at the preschool level. So for us > it > > was a much better fit to use the scholarship. Sorry I should have > > clarified better from the start.> > > > The preschool my daughter attends at present has ST included with > the > > tuition...for

awhile we used both the preschools st and private st > on > > the scholarship.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> >>

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What school district are you in?? Thanks <egerpatt@...> wrote: Well, you got to find a way for them to listen to you. In my case, I did have to hire an attorney and that resolved everything very quickly. The district I live in is very supportive toward special education services. So I am really speaking of my experience....hard to argue with that. Everyone has different experiences. I know of others in different districts who have had a longer 'waiting it out' time, and the district kept adding services and modifying them until after a year or so they gave up and gave the child what the parents wanted for her. I guess it's different in each instance.... pcrawfo1

<PCrawfo1@...> wrote: Sorry I don't think the majority of school districts will do the right thing unless they have to...middle ground or not. Unfortunately their word in IEP meetings are more weighted than mine.> > But I believe there is always a middle groud that can be found, > eventually, in most cases. If you need ABA for your child, just > fight for it with the district. they will likely hire a consultant > and a tutor and provide extra hours one on one for your child if > that's really needed and justified, and can be proven with learning > data. They may never agree to send your child to MOnarch or CCCA, > but if you can show them that what they are offering is > inapropriate, they will have to deal with you.

> > > > Or, do they?> > > > > > > > pcrawfo1 <PCrawfo1@> wrote:> > It is either or...however at the preschool level you > could pay for > > private preschool, ST and even run a home ABA program on the > $20,000 > > they allow you to access. It isn't a hard process to get providers > > (preschool, ST, tutors, consultants, etc) approved. I don't know > of > > ANY school district that is spending that kind of money per child > or > > offering those kinds of services at the preschool level. So for us > it > > was a much better fit to use the scholarship. Sorry I should have > > clarified better from the start.> > > > The preschool my daughter attends at present has ST included with > the > > tuition...for awhile we used both the

preschools st and private st > on > > the scholarship.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> >> All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.

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question, in the email at the very bottom, you state that you were able to

utilize the speech therapist from the preschool your child was attending and

also utilize scholarship money for a private st. did i get that right? i

thought you can't get scholarship money if your child is in a preschool, or

was it a scholarship paid for preschool? they keep changing rules so wanted

to make sure i was up on the latest!

good for you for doubling up on ST. i might suggest to all parents to

observe as many therapy sessions as you can!

joanne lyons

>From: " pcrawfo1 " <PCrawfo1@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: [ ] Re: IEP

>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:36:32 -0000

>

> Sorry I don't think the majority of school districts will do the

>right thing unless they have to...middle ground or not.

>Unfortunately their word in IEP meetings are more weighted than mine.

>

> > > But I believe there is always a middle groud that can be

>found,

> > eventually, in most cases. If you need ABA for your child, just

> > fight for it with the district. they will likely hire a consultant

> > and a tutor and provide extra hours one on one for your child if

> > that's really needed and justified, and can be proven with

>learning

> > data. They may never agree to send your child to MOnarch or CCCA,

> > but if you can show them that what they are offering is

> > inapropriate, they will have to deal with you.

> > >

> > > Or, do they?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > pcrawfo1 <PCrawfo1@> wrote:

> > > It is either or...however at the preschool level you

> > could pay for

> > > private preschool, ST and even run a home ABA program on the

> > $20,000

> > > they allow you to access. It isn't a hard process to get

>providers

> > > (preschool, ST, tutors, consultants, etc) approved. I don't know

> > of

> > > ANY school district that is spending that kind of money per

>child

> > or

> > > offering those kinds of services at the preschool level. So for

>us

> > it

> > > was a much better fit to use the scholarship. Sorry I should

>have

> > > clarified better from the start.

> > >

> > > The preschool my daughter attends at present has ST included

>with

> > the

> > > tuition...for awhile we used both the preschools st and private

>st

> > on

> > > the scholarship.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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>

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>

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Any child with a Autism IEP in a school district can use the autism

scholarship....a child can receive services starting from the age of

3. There are no age restictions with the autism scholarship, this

has never been a rule. I surely hope school districts are being

truthful with their parents....I have ran into several parents in

Northeast Ohio who have been told blant lies about not being able to

access the scholarship.

The last I heard, there were more preschoolers than ever running a

ABA in- home program using the scholarship.

Z.

> > > > It is either or...however at the preschool level you

> > > could pay for

> > > > private preschool, ST and even run a home ABA program on the

> > > $20,000

> > > > they allow you to access. It isn't a hard process to get

> >providers

> > > > (preschool, ST, tutors, consultants, etc) approved. I don't

know

> > > of

> > > > ANY school district that is spending that kind of money per

> >child

> > > or

> > > > offering those kinds of services at the preschool level. So

for

> >us

> > > it

> > > > was a much better fit to use the scholarship. Sorry I should

> >have

> > > > clarified better from the start.

> > > >

> > > > The preschool my daughter attends at present has ST included

> >with

> > > the

> > > > tuition...for awhile we used both the preschools st and

private

> >st

> > > on

> > > > the scholarship.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >*Just Some Group Notes:

> >

> >~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~

> >

> >We can help raise money for ASO (Autism Society of Ohio). Just by

using a

> >charity based search engine. Search for anything you need info

on. 2

> >steps: Just click on the link then type in Autism Society of Ohio

and hit

> >verify. Then type in your search word. heres the link:

> >http://www.goodsearch.com

> >

> >~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~

> >

> >When Adding to your email address book, don't forget to

include

> >the s in groups. Here is the complete address:

> >

> >

> >~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~

> >

> >Our Parent Contact list - see a printable list or add your contact

info:

> >

> >See the printable list:

> > /database?

method=reportRows & tbl=2 & sortBy=1 & sortDir=down & startAt= & prntRpt=1

> >

> >Add your contact info here:

> > /database?

method=addRecord & tbl=2

> >

> >~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~

> >

> >Would you like to invite a friend to our group?

> >Would you like to handout information about our group to your area

meeting?

> >Just print out some handouts from this link:

>

>http://f4.grp.fs.com/v1/AIN0RLAa_M73oRrFIxpAYAoyKhpUQjhAQwLZyn-

aHudv5wBIo5CIDOYwMaYSuKIwsAQHkU2a2WBN2D3h6hU6ig/ -Handout.doc

> >

> >~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~

> >

> >See our group photo albums or Add your family photo album here:

> >http://health.ph./group/ /photos

> >

> >~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~

> >

> > is a networking and support group

> >of " Parent to Parent for Autism " .

> >Website: http://hometown.aol.com/parentschat/homepage.html

> >

> >~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~

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Don't forget that there is a good group designated just for IEP information. You may elect to get a digest there is close to 600 emails a month. To auto register send this blank email to: Subscribe to IEP_guide to see the site: IEP_guide : IEP special education IDEA 504 NCLB

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  • 3 years later...

I have a question. If you couldn't get the autism diagnosis on the IEP how did

you get the autism scholarship? We are stuck in the OHI category because despite

three letters from his Dr's the district is still questioning the autism

diagnosis because he already had tourettes and adhd prior to aspergers diagnosis

and was in the OHI category. I am in the process of arguing with them to add it

to the MFE. I don't get why they are still refusing a year later.

>

>

> >From: Barbara Ann <bal44212@...>

> >Subject: Re: [ ] Re:

> >

> >Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 7:33 PM

> >

> >

> > 

> >Diane,

> >How long ago was your experience and what school district are you in?

> >

> >Barb

> >

>

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I just went to a seminar/workshop this wk and learned that the diagnosis is not supposed to be on the IEP, but is to be on the ETR -- unless the parents specifically request itBest,Holly Reimann, MA CCC-SLPhttp://PeakPotentialTherapy.comofc: 330-405-8776cell: 267-259-6461Sent from my BlackBerry®From: "Michele" <m.snyder78@...>Sender: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:10:16 -0000< >Reply Subject: [ ] Re: iep I have a question. If you couldn't get the autism diagnosis on the IEP how did you get the autism scholarship? We are stuck in the OHI category because despite three letters from his Dr's the district is still questioning the autism diagnosis because he already had tourettes and adhd prior to aspergers diagnosis and was in the OHI category. I am in the process of arguing with them to add it to the MFE. I don't get why they are still refusing a year later. > > > >From: Barbara Ann <bal44212@...>> >Subject: Re: [ ] Re:> > > >Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 7:33 PM> >> >> >  > >Diane,> >How long ago was your experience and what school district are you in?> >> >Barb> >>

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