Re: Andrographis problem?

[Guest guest]

, if you react allergic to andro or any other herb, you'll

probably have many side reactions. I react strongly in my head with

some herbs (like boneset), I do feel 'high', spacey. This means

allergy for me. Sometimes, I react with redness in my tongue (a

burning sensation), other times, with this spacey feeling.

Now I just read that kidney pain could also mean an allergic

reaction. I get this with some supplements... I guess, different

things could cause different allergic reactions. Rash is another.

Be careful with driving!

Selma

>

> Yesterday I was driving, and for the first time in a very long

time, I

> was spacey. I even put on the wrong turn signal once, and didn't

> realize I had done it until I turned it off. I got where I was

going,

> stopped in the ladies' room, and found I was covered in a rash. I

was

> flushed red from head to toe, with a more blotchy rash on my

abdomen.

>

> Since Buhner says andrographis is the most likely culprit for

causing

> a rash, I discontinued it, and kept right up with all the other

herbs.

> By evening, I felt normal again - no rash, no flushing, and

> clear-headed. I even took my horse for a riding lesson, and I

didn't

> completely s*ck. (I've lost a lot of coordination and tone and

muscle

> memory and balance, so I'm kinda starting over.)

>

> So, for now, I'll stop the andro. Maybe in a few weeks I'll try

> adding it back in lower doses, and see how I do.

>

> Anyone else have cognitive problems with andro? If it weren't for

the

> rash, I would have just blamed Lyme. But without the andro, I feel

fine.

>

> D.

>

[Guest guest]

I have had cognitive problems, at times, but I wouldn't blame the Andro

necessarily. I blame the Lyme Disease.

Jim

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DeMarco <@...> wrote:

Yesterday I was driving, and for the first time in a very long time, I

was spacey. I even put on the wrong turn signal once, and didn't

realize I had done it until I turned it off. I got where I was going,

stopped in the ladies' room, and found I was covered in a rash. I was

flushed red from head to toe, with a more blotchy rash on my abdomen.

Since Buhner says andrographis is the most likely culprit for causing

a rash, I discontinued it, and kept right up with all the other herbs.

By evening, I felt normal again - no rash, no flushing, and

clear-headed. I even took my horse for a riding lesson, and I didn't

completely s*ck. (I've lost a lot of coordination and tone and muscle

memory and balance, so I'm kinda starting over.)

So, for now, I'll stop the andro. Maybe in a few weeks I'll try

adding it back in lower doses, and see how I do.

Anyone else have cognitive problems with andro? If it weren't for the

rash, I would have just blamed Lyme. But without the andro, I feel fine.

D.

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[Guest guest]

I also had cognitive issues that were relieved once being off

andrographis. I also had the conclusion confirmed by others. It

is a side effect. I didn't get a rash though. And I never dared to

stop taking it to avoid the side effects.

Congrats on the horse ride..... : )

>

> Yesterday I was driving, and for the first time in a very long time,

I

> was spacey. I even put on the wrong turn signal once, and

didn't

> realize I had done it until I turned it off. I got where I was going,

> stopped in the ladies' room, and found I was covered in a rash.

I was

> flushed red from head to toe, with a more blotchy rash on my

abdomen.

>

> Since Buhner says andrographis is the most likely culprit for

causing

> a rash, I discontinued it, and kept right up with all the other

herbs.

> By evening, I felt normal again - no rash, no flushing, and

> clear-headed. I even took my horse for a riding lesson, and I

didn't

> completely s*ck. (I've lost a lot of coordination and tone and

muscle

> memory and balance, so I'm kinda starting over.)

>

> So, for now, I'll stop the andro. Maybe in a few weeks I'll try

> adding it back in lower doses, and see how I do.

>

> Anyone else have cognitive problems with andro? If it weren't

for the

> rash, I would have just blamed Lyme. But without the andro, I

feel fine.

>

> D.

>

[Guest guest]

That's always a possibility.

If it were cognitive problems alone, I'd go with Lyme. But along with

a head-to-toe rash and flushing 40 minutes after taking the herbs, I

think it's more likely to be a problem with one of the herbs.

Stopping the andro stopped the flushing and rashes, and my mind has

been nice and clear. So I think that was the problem. Time will tell.

D.

" R. Bayliss " <jbbigrod@...> wrote:

>

> I have had cognitive problems, at times, but I wouldn't blame the

Andro necessarily. I blame the Lyme Disease.

> Jim

> ###

>

>

> DeMarco <@...> wrote:

> Yesterday I was driving, and for the first time in a very

long time, I

> was spacey. I even put on the wrong turn signal once, and didn't

> realize I had done it until I turned it off. I got where I was going,

> stopped in the ladies' room, and found I was covered in a rash. I was

> flushed red from head to toe, with a more blotchy rash on my abdomen.

>

> Since Buhner says andrographis is the most likely culprit for causing

> a rash, I discontinued it, and kept right up with all the other herbs.

> By evening, I felt normal again - no rash, no flushing, and

> clear-headed. I even took my horse for a riding lesson, and I didn't

> completely s*ck. (I've lost a lot of coordination and tone and muscle

> memory and balance, so I'm kinda starting over.)

>

> So, for now, I'll stop the andro. Maybe in a few weeks I'll try

> adding it back in lower doses, and see how I do.

>

> Anyone else have cognitive problems with andro? If it weren't for the

> rash, I would have just blamed Lyme. But without the andro, I feel fine.

>

> D.

[Guest guest]

You could very well be right. I don't know IF the reactions to the herbs are

that fast, but I guess in some people it could be.

I know my self, I rarely get BAD problems from herbs.

Like I was off of Devils Claw for about a month and my vision was really bad,

along with cognitive problems.

I Started my first ONE of Devil's Claw yesterday at 4:15 p.m. and by 7:30 p.m.

my VISION was really good. NO blurring, very sharp and brighter. By 8:30 p.m.

it was even sharper and SUPER bright. Man it was like a miracle again.

Today I will take two " 0 " size capsules and hope this continues.

Hope you can get positive results from your herbs like I do.

You might TRY Plum Flower Brand as they don't adulterate their herbs with

preservatives like a lot of other companines do. I refrigerate my herbs from

them once I opne them.

Jim

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DeMarco <@...> wrote:

That's always a possibility.

If it were cognitive problems alone, I'd go with Lyme. But along with

a head-to-toe rash and flushing 40 minutes after taking the herbs, I

think it's more likely to be a problem with one of the herbs.

Stopping the andro stopped the flushing and rashes, and my mind has

been nice and clear. So I think that was the problem. Time will tell.

D.

[Guest guest]

Allergies typically manifest as rashes, itching, sneezing, or

wheezing. I've always attributed the " spaciness " in the head as being

due to a brain herx...a result of the release of toxins in the brain as

Bb is killed off there. Same for brain fog. Spaciness and/or pain

alone are not indications of an allergy.