Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 another synchronicity: today on my to-do list is to call doc about concerns with actonel prescription, which i've been taking for several years for osteopenia. wondering if there is safer alternative. even tho taking actonel, i had another 9% loss this last year. BALLADY: is it the ezorb CALCIUM that you are taking? how do you know your bone density is increasing? have you had it tested before and after taking this supplement? is this a multilevel marketing product? any less expensive way to order than direct thru the company? i searched for independent studies on the product, couldn't find any. but did find this interesting review of ezorb's claims by the gov: Direct response advertising for the EZorb Calcium Supplement, manufactured by Elixir Industry, came to the attention of the Electronic Retailing Self-Regulation Program (“ERSP”) pursuant to its ongoing monitoring program. http://www.retailing.org/new_site/documents/govaffairs/ERSP_Findings/EZorb_d ecision.doc gratefully, kendra -----Original Message----- Joyce, I picked up your osteo message from another post. I found the product Ezorb to be amazing, not only at increasing my bone density but helping with muscular/joint type aches and such as well. It's a bit pricey but, I feel, well worth it. If intereted google Elixir Industry. Ballady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Kendra could you repost that link? it didn't seem to work. I have severe osteoporosis as well. and i'm only 41. i may have had lyme for 20 yrs. Steve On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:47 PM, kendra wrote: > another synchronicity: today on my to-do list is to call doc about > concerns > with actonel prescription, which i've been taking for several years > for > osteopenia. wondering if there is safer alternative. even tho taking > actonel, i had another 9% loss this last year. > > BALLADY: is it the ezorb CALCIUM that you are taking? how do you know > your > bone density is increasing? have you had it tested before and after > taking > this supplement? is this a multilevel marketing product? any less > expensive > way to order than direct thru the company? > > i searched for independent studies on the product, couldn't find any. > but > did find this interesting review of ezorb's claims by the gov: > Direct response advertising for the EZorb Calcium Supplement, > manufactured > by Elixir Industry, came to the attention of the Electronic Retailing > Self-Regulation Program (“ERSPâ€) pursuant to its ongoing monitoring > program. > http://www.retailing.org/new_site/documents/govaffairs/ERSP_Findings/ > EZorb_d > ecision.doc > > gratefully, > kendra > > -----Original Message----- > Joyce, > I picked up your osteo message from another post. I found the product > Ezorb to be amazing, not only at increasing my bone density but > helping with muscular/joint type aches and such as well. It's a bit > pricey but, I feel, well worth it. If intereted google Elixir > Industry. > Ballady > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 this just came thru on another list i'm on: Steve Bisphosphonate drugs are metabolic " monkey wrenches " that are used to reduce bone teardown, in order to reduce osteoporosis. By blocking bone turner, however, they may also impair bone healing, particularly in the jaw, especially when IV drug is used to treat cancers. Because the drug is deposited in bone, their effect is mostly cumulative over a lifetime. > ... Fosamax ... > Other bisphosphonates include Actonel, Boniva, Bonefos, Didronel, > Aredia, > Skelid and Zometa. Treatment of osteoporosis is an issue because a broken hip in very elderly individuals is associated with about a 30% chance of death within a year--many elderly persons cannot tolerate the stress of recovery from a broken hip. There are a blizzard of recent citations on Medline, with 104 of 107 citations in the past 3 years for the query: " bisphosphonates jaw necrosis " at: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=Display & DB=pubmed __ HEALTH ANSWERS Can Fosamax, the osteoporosis drug, damage the jaw? http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2006/08/28/ can_fosamax_the_osteoporosis_drug_damage_the_jaw/ August 28, 2006 In rare cases, bisphosphonates, the class of medicines to which Fosamax belongs, have been linked to the death of jaw bone tissue. But the bisphosphonates mostly likely to cause this tissue death are the intravenous forms, such as Zometa or Aredia, which are given to cancer patients to retard the spread of tumors in the bone. Bisphosphonate drugs block the normal ``turnover " of bone cells, the process by which bone is continuously destroyed, then remade. With this turnover blocked, tiny fractures may not be able to heal after trauma -- whether it's trauma from chewing hard or from tooth extraction. And because bone is not turning over, infections in the mouth (which is loaded with bacteria), may not heal properly, further damaging the jaw. In a paper published in May in the ls of Internal Medicine, researchers from Brigham and Women's Hospital and elsewhere searched the medical literature for cases of jaw necrosis linked to bisphosphonates. The team identified 368 cases in the last couple of years, 94 percent of which occurred in patients taking the intravenous drugs. Most of these people had breast cancer that had spread or multiple myeloma, another type of cancer. Still, because the link has only recently come to light, ``the concern is that the 368 figure is an underestimate " of the problem, said Dr. Sundeep Khosla , an endocrinologist at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and chairman of a task force recently convened by the American Society for Bone and Mineral Research to look into the issue. Some patients are suing Merck & Co., the maker of Fosamax. But the company on its website noted that as of March 2006, jaw necrosis probably occurs in less than one in every 100,000 patient-treatment years. Last year, the US Food and Drug Administration asked Merck and the other makers of oral bisphosphonates to mention the jaw necrosis risk on its product labels. If you are already taking bisphosphonates and are worried about jaw necrosis, consult a dentist. If you are about to start taking bisphosphonates, try to get dental work done before you start, said Dr. Jon Giles , an instructor in rheumatology at s Hopkins University. 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On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:47 PM, kendra wrote: > another synchronicity: today on my to-do list is to call doc about > concerns > with actonel prescription, which i've been taking for several years > for > osteopenia. wondering if there is safer alternative. even tho taking > actonel, i had another 9% loss this last year. > > BALLADY: is it the ezorb CALCIUM that you are taking? how do you know > your > bone density is increasing? have you had it tested before and after > taking > this supplement? is this a multilevel marketing product? any less > expensive > way to order than direct thru the company? > > i searched for independent studies on the product, couldn't find any. > but > did find this interesting review of ezorb's claims by the gov: > Direct response advertising for the EZorb Calcium Supplement, > manufactured > by Elixir Industry, came to the attention of the Electronic Retailing > Self-Regulation Program (“ERSPâ€) pursuant to its ongoing monitoring > program. > http://www.retailing.org/new_site/documents/govaffairs/ERSP_Findings/ > EZorb_d > ecision.doc > > gratefully, > kendra > > -----Original Message----- > Joyce, > I picked up your osteo message from another post. I found the product > Ezorb to be amazing, not only at increasing my bone density but > helping with muscular/joint type aches and such as well. It's a bit > pricey but, I feel, well worth it. If intereted google Elixir > Industry. > Ballady > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 > BALLADY: is it the ezorb CALCIUM that you are taking? Yes. >how do you know your > bone density is increasing? have you had it tested before and after taking > this supplement? Yes, I was tested before and after with bones showing marked improvement on dexa scan after 1 year. >is this a multilevel marketing product? No. > any less expensive > way to order than direct thru the company? I now buy it on ebay > i searched for independent studies on the product, couldn't find any. but > did find this interesting review of ezorb's claims by the gov: > Direct response advertising for the EZorb Calcium Supplement, manufactured > by Elixir Industry, came to the attention of the Electronic Retailing > Self-Regulation Program ( " ERSP " ) pursuant to its ongoing monitoring >program. They adjusted their advertising since. Many companies have to do this, but ... I have nothing invested in anyone else trying this, just passing along information about a product that helped me. I cannot/will not put synthetics into my system and biophosphates are some of the worst in terms of side effects, especially things that can occur " down the line. " You can also call the manufacturer. They are open to queries. Ballady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Steve,Kendra,Ballady, I am wondering if there is any link between lyme and osteoporosis. Sure hearing of alot of young lymies with osteo. Would be interesting if all lymies got bone density tests. Take care all. Joyce steve <xanax006@...> wrote: Kendra could you repost that link? it didn't seem to work. I have severe osteoporosis as well. and i'm only 41. i may have had lyme for 20 yrs. Steve On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:47 PM, kendra wrote: > another synchronicity: today on my to-do list is to call doc about > concerns > with actonel prescription, which i've been taking for several years > for > osteopenia. wondering if there is safer alternative. even tho taking > actonel, i had another 9% loss this last year. > > BALLADY: is it the ezorb CALCIUM that you are taking? how do you know > your > bone density is increasing? have you had it tested before and after > taking > this supplement? is this a multilevel marketing product? any less > expensive > way to order than direct thru the company? > > i searched for independent studies on the product, couldn't find any. > but > did find this interesting review of ezorb's claims by the gov: > Direct response advertising for the EZorb Calcium Supplement, > manufactured > by Elixir Industry, came to the attention of the Electronic Retailing > Self-Regulation Program (“ERSPâ€) pursuant to its ongoing monitoring > program. > http://www.retailing.org/new_site/documents/govaffairs/ERSP_Findings/ > EZorb_d > ecision.doc > > gratefully, > kendra > > -----Original Message----- > Joyce, > I picked up your osteo message from another post. I found the product > Ezorb to be amazing, not only at increasing my bone density but > helping with muscular/joint type aches and such as well. It's a bit > pricey but, I feel, well worth it. If intereted google Elixir > Industry. > Ballady > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Hi Ballady, Do you happen to have the phone number? Thanks for posting this info. Again, I am wondering how many lymies have osteo. Sure see alot of young ones with osteo. Take care Joyce PS Will share this info with my MD ballady4 <ballady4@...> wrote: > BALLADY: is it the ezorb CALCIUM that you are taking? Yes. >how do you know your > bone density is increasing? have you had it tested before and after taking > this supplement? Yes, I was tested before and after with bones showing marked improvement on dexa scan after 1 year. >is this a multilevel marketing product? No. > any less expensive > way to order than direct thru the company? I now buy it on ebay > i searched for independent studies on the product, couldn't find any. but > did find this interesting review of ezorb's claims by the gov: > Direct response advertising for the EZorb Calcium Supplement, manufactured > by Elixir Industry, came to the attention of the Electronic Retailing > Self-Regulation Program ( " ERSP " ) pursuant to its ongoing monitoring >program. They adjusted their advertising since. Many companies have to do this, but ... I have nothing invested in anyone else trying this, just passing along information about a product that helped me. I cannot/will not put synthetics into my system and biophosphates are some of the worst in terms of side effects, especially things that can occur " down the line. " You can also call the manufacturer. They are open to queries. Ballady --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Hi Joyce, Here is the site URL: http://www.elixirindustry.com/ I'm sure you can find the 800# there. I'm a little hesitant to post here. Also, I strongly recommend the book: The Myth of Osteoporosis by Gillian Sanson, a New Zealander. This really opened my eyes to all the hype and such about osteo. Also, if you get a dexa scan be sure to ask for the Z as well as T score. I think the Z score far more important because it compares your bones to other women YOUR age. Ballady > > > BALLADY: is it the ezorb CALCIUM that you are taking? > > Yes. > > >how do you know your > > bone density is increasing? have you had it tested before and after > taking > > this supplement? > > Yes, I was tested before and after with bones showing marked > improvement on dexa scan after 1 year. > > >is this a multilevel marketing product? > > No. > > > any less expensive > > way to order than direct thru the company? > > I now buy it on ebay > > > i searched for independent studies on the product, couldn't find > any. but > > did find this interesting review of ezorb's claims by the gov: > > Direct response advertising for the EZorb Calcium Supplement, > manufactured > > by Elixir Industry, came to the attention of the Electronic Retailing > > Self-Regulation Program ( " ERSP " ) pursuant to its ongoing monitoring > >program. > > They adjusted their advertising since. Many companies have to do > this, but ... I have nothing invested in anyone else trying this, > just passing along information about a product that helped me. I > cannot/will not put synthetics into my system and biophosphates are > some of the worst in terms of side effects, especially things that can > occur " down the line. " You can also call the manufacturer. They are > open to queries. > > Ballady > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 I remember reading in Dr K's protocol that lyme depletes copper - which in itself is necessary to build bone. i was just tested and my doc found out my copper is exceedingly low. Steve On Sep 8, 2006, at 10:02 AM, joyce la fleur wrote: > Steve,Kendra,Ballady, I am wondering if there is any link between lyme > and osteoporosis. Sure hearing of alot of young lymies with osteo. > Would be interesting if all lymies got bone density tests. Take care > all. Joyce > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 ballady: i appreciate your responses. i think i'll try the ezorb. overall i felt the gov review showed enough positive evidence for ezorb to give it a try (problems were mostly over-enthusiatic marketing claims). steve: yes, the articles on jawbone decay is part of what i'd been reading that renewed my concern over using actonel. the link to review of ezorb is so long that you may have to copy and paste the whole thing into your web browser in two pieces. this time i left off the http:// to see if it would work for you. www.retailing.org/new_site/documents/govaffairs/ERSP_Findings/EZorb_decision.doc joyce: i was diagnosed with osteopenia in 1999 with about 20%?? (can't remember clearly) more loss of bone than normal for my age at the time, age 47? but i went into surgical menopause at age 29. was on hrt for years, terrible symptoms every time i tried to get off it. finally managed to stop hrt on my own in 1997. when my gyn found out i'd stopped premarin he was very concerned and tested my bone density. so can't say if my situation is linked to lyme. deeply grateful for our collective experiences and knowledge and willingness to share, kendra -----Original Message----- could you repost that link? it didn't seem to work. I have severe osteoporosis as well. and i'm only 41. i may have had lyme for 20 yrs. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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