Re: Joint Capsule Contractures

[Guest guest]

My right shoulder plus my right upper arm including my chest muscle has been

hurting so much it keeps me up at night and so tender and sore I hurt it just

moving it. Some of that is work related and some is lyme related. But, yes,

I've had tremendous pain with my right shoulder. My range of motion is very

limited as well. I have to support it at night with a pillow underneath it or

it is very painful. It is " funny " because my Mother two states away has the

same symptoms as mine only her pain is in her left shoulder.

Sam

DeMarco <ponyrubs@...> wrote:

Anyone have this as a consequence of Lyme?

The joint capsule of my left shoulder has contracted, and torn a bit, and I'm

doing really nasty horrible awful PT to get it stretched back out as it heals.

MAN, it hurts. I used to have a heck of a high pain tolerance when I was in

pain all the time. But now that I'm better, I have become a real wuse.

I keep thinking, I wonder if we shot it up with antibiotics, if it would get

better.

Aw well - might as well go do my stretching, holding, and crying. *sigh*

Lyme hurts.

D.

[Guest guest]

,

Do you mean the rotator cuff? Mine is torn on the left. This is the

second time this has happened.

Antibiotics won't do anything for this type of condition, but

stretching definitely helps.

I've heard that Lyme tends to settle more on one side of the body, and

usually left. I don't know if this injury is do to Lyme, but all of my

problems seem to be left-sided.

Ballady

>

> Anyone have this as a consequence of Lyme?

>

> The joint capsule of my left shoulder has contracted, and torn a

bit, and I'm doing really nasty horrible awful PT to get it stretched

back out as it heals. MAN, it hurts. I used to have a heck of a high

pain tolerance when I was in pain all the time. But now that I'm

better, I have become a real wuse.

>

> I keep thinking, I wonder if we shot it up with antibiotics, if it

would get better.

>

> Aw well - might as well go do my stretching, holding, and crying.

*sigh*

>

> Lyme hurts.

>

> D.

>

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I don't think I have pure emu oil. I have something called " Blue Emu. " I can't

use it as it burns my skin. That in itsef can alleviate pain, since the burning

sensation causes the body to release endorphins.

And there's a lot of therapeutic value in the rubbing, regardless of what you

choose to rub in.

D.

joyce la fleur <loveandlight1111@...> wrote:

Hi Sam, & others with pain,

Emu oil has really helped with alot of my pain. It really suprizes me when

I rub it in and pain is gone or more tollerable. You can google or do a search

on it.

I just gave my last bottle away as my son-in-law was visiting and has

knee,joint problems. He used it and was amazed. When I buy another bottle I will

share the website here. My health food store carries it. Blessings Joyce

Zawada <skzawada@...> wrote: My

right shoulder plus my right upper arm including my chest muscle has been

hurting so much it keeps me up at night and so tender and sore I hurt it just

moving it. Some of that is work related and some is lyme related. But, yes,

I've had tremendous pain with my right shoulder. My range of motion is very

limited as well. I have to support it at night with a pillow underneath it or

it is very painful. It is " funny " because my Mother two states away has the

same symptoms as mine only her pain is in her left shoulder.

Sam

DeMarco <ponyrubs@...> wrote:

Anyone have this as a consequence of Lyme?

The joint capsule of my left shoulder has contracted, and torn a bit, and I'm

doing really nasty horrible awful PT to get it stretched back out as it heals.

MAN, it hurts. I used to have a heck of a high pain tolerance when I was in

pain all the time. But now that I'm better, I have become a real wuse.

I keep thinking, I wonder if we shot it up with antibiotics, if it would get

better.

Aw well - might as well go do my stretching, holding, and crying. *sigh*

Lyme hurts.

D.

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Hi, Ballady,

The rotator cuff is actually a group of 4 muscles. The one most often torn is

the supraspinatus - the one that stabilizes the humerus while the other three

turn it this way and that.

Once it has been torn, it is really important to strengthen what's left, as well

as to keep it and the others stretched. Otherwise it is likely to tear again.

:-(

Mine is the joint capsule - the membrane that surrounds the joint and keeps the

lubricating fluid in. For some reason, mine has become hardened and contracted,

so it rips (in a stunningly painful way) when I go beyond a very small range of

motion.

Inflammation can cause it, so I think maybe it is Lyme-related. It is pretty

darn excruciating, but it is getting better. The therapy is awful, and this

from someone who inflicts pain on others on a regular basis.

I have to wonder if you may have a bit of a capsule problem along with the

rotator cuff issue. It's not all that unusual for the capsule to contract when

you under-use the shoulder due to another injury. If you have access to

Physical Therapy, it might be worth looking into.

D.

ballady4 <ballady4@...> wrote: ,

Do you mean the rotator cuff? Mine is torn on the left. This is the

second time this has happened.

Antibiotics won't do anything for this type of condition, but

stretching definitely helps.

I've heard that Lyme tends to settle more on one side of the body, and

usually left. I don't know if this injury is do to Lyme, but all of my

problems seem to be left-sided.

Ballady

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, What I have is plain Emu oil. There is no burning with mine. Just pain

relief. My friend used the blue emu and it did not help a bit.

Sorry,yours didn't work 4 U.

Just went to buy another bottle and they are out and have it back ordered. The

gal at the store said people buy it 5-6 bottles at a time. And that they can't

keep it in stock. Not everything works for everyone. We are all so different.

Anyway, I am greatful this works for me and many others. Namaste' Joyce

DeMarco <ponyrubs@...> wrote: I

don't think I have pure emu oil. I have something called " Blue Emu. " I can't

use it as it burns my skin. That in itsef can alleviate pain, since the burning

sensation causes the body to release endorphins.

And there's a lot of therapeutic value in the rubbing, regardless of what you

choose to rub in.

D.

joyce la fleur <loveandlight1111@...> wrote:

Hi Sam, & others with pain,

Emu oil has really helped with alot of my pain. It really suprizes me when

I rub it in and pain is gone or more tollerable. You can google or do a search

on it.

I just gave my last bottle away as my son-in-law was visiting and has

knee,joint problems. He used it and was amazed. When I buy another bottle I will

share the website here. My health food store carries it. Blessings Joyce

Zawada <skzawada@...> wrote: My

right shoulder plus my right upper arm including my chest muscle has been

hurting so much it keeps me up at night and so tender and sore I hurt it just

moving it. Some of that is work related and some is lyme related. But, yes,

I've had tremendous pain with my right shoulder. My range of motion is very

limited as well. I have to support it at night with a pillow underneath it or

it is very painful. It is " funny " because my Mother two states away has the

same symptoms as mine only her pain is in her left shoulder.

Sam

DeMarco <ponyrubs@...> wrote:

Anyone have this as a consequence of Lyme?

The joint capsule of my left shoulder has contracted, and torn a bit, and

I'm doing really nasty horrible awful PT to get it stretched back out as it

heals. MAN, it hurts. I used to have a heck of a high pain tolerance when I

was in pain all the time. But now that I'm better, I have become a real wuse.

I keep thinking, I wonder if we shot it up with antibiotics, if it would get

better.

Aw well - might as well go do my stretching, holding, and crying. *sigh*

Lyme hurts.

D.

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I have exactly the same issue with my left shoulder...extremely painful at

times...has kept me up at nite , etc. I absolutely see it related to Lyme. It

gets so much better when I`m " coasting " . When I herx, SHEWEEE ! I found that if

I use a product called Pain Free by Innovative Chemical Corp. It helps alot ! It

is basicly Capsaicin. Rubs on like a roll on.Works on all those painful

joints.Geeze ..I sound like a comercial : ). Anyway , hope it gets better.

in WV

DeMarco <ponyrubs@...> wrote: Hi, Ballady,

The rotator cuff is actually a group of 4 muscles. The one most often torn is

the supraspinatus - the one that stabilizes the humerus while the other three

turn it this way and that.

Once it has been torn, it is really important to strengthen what's left, as well

as to keep it and the others stretched. Otherwise it is likely to tear again.

:-(

Mine is the joint capsule - the membrane that surrounds the joint and keeps the

lubricating fluid in. For some reason, mine has become hardened and contracted,

so it rips (in a stunningly painful way) when I go beyond a very small range of

motion.

Inflammation can cause it, so I think maybe it is Lyme-related. It is pretty

darn excruciating, but it is getting better. The therapy is awful, and this from

someone who inflicts pain on others on a regular basis.

I have to wonder if you may have a bit of a capsule problem along with the

rotator cuff issue. It's not all that unusual for the capsule to contract when

you under-use the shoulder due to another injury. If you have access to Physical

Therapy, it might be worth looking into.

D.

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Hi , Ialso have a Capsaicin product called Sombra www.sombrausa.com that I

get from my chiro. The only problem is if you are doing homeopathics it

antidotes them. Also for people with MCS its pretty strong. This is another

reason why I like the Emu oil. Talk about a comercial. Just want to share.

Namaste'J

Wetzel <fhgwetzel@...> wrote: I

have exactly the same issue with my left shoulder...extremely painful at

times...has kept me up at nite , etc. I absolutely see it related to Lyme. It

gets so much better when I`m " coasting " . When I herx, SHEWEEE ! I found that if

I use a product called Pain Free by Innovative Chemical Corp. It helps alot ! It

is basicly Capsaicin. Rubs on like a roll on.Works on all those painful

joints.Geeze ..I sound like a comercial : ). Anyway , hope it gets better.

in WV

DeMarco <ponyrubs@...> wrote: Hi, Ballady,

The rotator cuff is actually a group of 4 muscles. The one most often torn is

the supraspinatus - the one that stabilizes the humerus while the other three

turn it this way and that.

Once it has been torn, it is really important to strengthen what's left, as

well as to keep it and the others stretched. Otherwise it is likely to tear

again. :-(

Mine is the joint capsule - the membrane that surrounds the joint and keeps the

lubricating fluid in. For some reason, mine has become hardened and contracted,

so it rips (in a stunningly painful way) when I go beyond a very small range of

motion.

Inflammation can cause it, so I think maybe it is Lyme-related. It is pretty

darn excruciating, but it is getting better. The therapy is awful, and this from

someone who inflicts pain on others on a regular basis.

I have to wonder if you may have a bit of a capsule problem along with the

rotator cuff issue. It's not all that unusual for the capsule to contract when

you under-use the shoulder due to another injury. If you have access to Physical

Therapy, it might be worth looking into.

D.

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I have two of the three possible tears there, per the ortho doc, and

yes, I strengthen and stretch.

Ballady

,

>

> Do you mean the rotator cuff? Mine is torn on the left. This is the

> second time this has happened.

>

> Antibiotics won't do anything for this type of condition, but

> stretching definitely helps.

>

> I've heard that Lyme tends to settle more on one side of the body, and

> usually left. I don't know if this injury is do to Lyme, but all of my

> problems seem to be left-sided.

>

> Ballady

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Joyce,

What exactly does the emu oil do? Is it just a topical that relieves

pain or does it actually contribute to healing?

Ballady

Hi, Ballady,

>

> The rotator cuff is actually a group of 4 muscles. The one most

often torn is the supraspinatus - the one that stabilizes the humerus

while the other three turn it this way and that.

>

> Once it has been torn, it is really important to strengthen what's

left, as well as to keep it and the others stretched. Otherwise it is

likely to tear again. :-(

>

> Mine is the joint capsule - the membrane that surrounds the joint

and keeps the lubricating fluid in. For some reason, mine has become

hardened and contracted, so it rips (in a stunningly painful way) when

I go beyond a very small range of motion.

>

> Inflammation can cause it, so I think maybe it is Lyme-related. It

is pretty darn excruciating, but it is getting better. The therapy is

awful, and this from someone who inflicts pain on others on a regular

basis.

>

> I have to wonder if you may have a bit of a capsule problem along

with the rotator cuff issue. It's not all that unusual for the capsule

to contract when you under-use the shoulder due to another injury. If

you have access to Physical Therapy, it might be worth looking into.

>

> D.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ballady, All the info I have read lists lots of healing propertys. It has

3-6-9 essential fatty acids and lots of other goodies. You can use it internally

or topical. I use the plain,not the one with the added products.

I am using Thunder Ridge Emu Oil. I researched this a couple of yrs ago and

seems to be a clean product. Will look into the product you posted. Two of my

health food stores carry Thunder Ridge. Although I am waiting for an order to

come in. It sells fast. I remember reading that it was good for lyme desease.

I could not believe the pain relief I got in minutes. I keep giving my

bottles away. Only have had 2 people out of many that I have shared it with

that said they felt nonthing. When energy testing I get a BIG yes. Blessings to

your healing, Ballady. Namaste' Joyce

ballady4 <ballady4@...> wrote: Hi Joyce,

What exactly does the emu oil do? Is it just a topical that relieves

pain or does it actually contribute to healing?

Ballady

Hi, Ballady,

>

> The rotator cuff is actually a group of 4 muscles. The one most

often torn is the supraspinatus - the one that stabilizes the humerus

while the other three turn it this way and that.

>

> Once it has been torn, it is really important to strengthen what's

left, as well as to keep it and the others stretched. Otherwise it is

likely to tear again. :-(

>

> Mine is the joint capsule - the membrane that surrounds the joint

and keeps the lubricating fluid in. For some reason, mine has become

hardened and contracted, so it rips (in a stunningly painful way) when

I go beyond a very small range of motion.

>

> Inflammation can cause it, so I think maybe it is Lyme-related. It

is pretty darn excruciating, but it is getting better. The therapy is

awful, and this from someone who inflicts pain on others on a regular

basis.

>

> I have to wonder if you may have a bit of a capsule problem along

with the rotator cuff issue. It's not all that unusual for the capsule

to contract when you under-use the shoulder due to another injury. If

you have access to Physical Therapy, it might be worth looking into.

>

> D.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

In case this pertains to anyone quinolines (Levaquin, Cipro, etc)

can cause tendonitisususally given to treat Bartonella. Usually

rotator cuff and achilles heel. It can occur immediatley upon using

the abx or 3-6 months after discontinuing the abx. I have heard

(not sure) that it actually eats holes in the tendon. It is an abx

that can become toxic and symptoms also include those of lyme when

detox is needed. If you have taken quinolines I would recommend

visiting the quinoline group and doing a little research. drs

are not always aware of this or want to accept that this is the

problem.

I found immediate relief using castor oil topically with heat. I

just put it on when I am in the sauna. Castor oil pulls toxins and

is an antiinflammatory. Now that tendon pain in minimal I have

started physicial therapy to work the muscles. It is painful work

but I see the other side. Hard to believe after all the lyme

progress I had to get this!! What else??

Take good care,

Pat

>

> Hi Ballady, All the info I have read lists lots of healing

propertys. It has 3-6-9 essential fatty acids and lots of other

goodies. You can use it internally or topical. I use the plain,not

the one with the added products.

> I am using Thunder Ridge Emu Oil. I researched this a couple

of yrs ago and seems to be a clean product. Will look into the

product you posted. Two of my health food stores carry Thunder

Ridge. Although I am waiting for an order to come in. It sells fast.

I remember reading that it was good for lyme desease.

> I could not believe the pain relief I got in minutes. I keep

giving my bottles away. Only have had 2 people out of many that I

have shared it with that said they felt nonthing. When energy

testing I get a BIG yes. Blessings to your healing, Ballady.

Namaste' Joyce