Re: Side effect from cat's claw and resveratrol

[Guest guest]

Jurek, why don't you divide the doses instead of taking them so high

at once ?

I'm already on cats claw since December 2005, and I can't tolerate

more than 4 capsules A DAY, in divided doses. I think my maximum were

8 capsules a day, but I think I felt it was way too much.

Are you having some liver pains?

Resveratrol Source Naturals has fillings. Were you ART tested for it?

Quite a lot of people react against it.

I also feel that when I take a lot of my Knotweed tea (pure herb), it

causes me diarrhea, so I just lower the amount. Then it's no problem.

Be aware that A LOT is NOT always GOOD.

If you have diarrhea, it disrupts your good bacteries from your GI

tract. Remember that 90% (if I remember right) of your immune system

is located in the gut. I, myself, am very careful with my GI tract as

I had suffered from it for decades. So diarrhea means: stop.

Check older Planet Thrive responses of B. He said that you have to

find what fits to your body and go with it. Never push it too much,

it can't do good (in my opinion). People have gotten improvements

with lower amounts of his herbs.

If you push too much, there's also danger of your body responding

with immune responses and you may get intolerant to the herb (which

is the ONE thing I would like to avoid).

Selma

>

> I have problem with cat's claw(rain-tree) and resveratrol(source

naturals)

> I am on dosage 4x2 daily for both of them.

> Side effect: diarhea from both of them

>

> andrographis 4x2 is ok for me. No side effects.

>

> So what should I do?

>

> 1. Start again? maybe from 1 tablet per day and increasing only one

> tablet every week?

>

> 2. Or maybe I should start whole herbs? I read that they are more

> effective, but do they cause milder side effects?

>

> BTW, is it possible to improve when for example on 4x1 dosage for

core

> protocol?

>

> Help me, Please ))

> Thank's

> Jurek

>

[Guest guest]

I'd suggest backing down from the dosage, or stop one and then the other

and see which one caused the problem then start up again at a lower dose

and increase slowly. I had it as well in the beginning and it stabilized

after a couple of days.

I think raintree is the whole herb, but source naturals has fillers,

maybe that's a problem to consider.

djur1 wrote:

>

> I have problem with cat's claw(rain-tree) and resveratrol(source naturals)

> I am on dosage 4x2 daily for both of them.

> Side effect: diarhea from both of them

>

> andrographis 4x2 is ok for me. No side effects.

>

> So what should I do?

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I have problem with cat's claw(rain-tree) and resveratrol(source

naturals)

> > I am on dosage 4x2 daily for both of them.

> > Side effect: diarhea from both of them

> >

> > andrographis 4x2 is ok for me. No side effects.

> >

> > So what should I do?

> >

> >

>

Thank's Selma and .

Things look easier now (lately I'm all the time confused:/ )

I started with 1 tablet per day and I will build-up slowly.

If still diarrhea, then I will change to whole herbs or sth like this.

Unfortunately I haven't my resveratrol ART tested - but I will do it soon.

What about cat's claw: interesting thing - ART-practicioner said that

rain-tree cat's claw doesn't test for me, whereas PC-Samento tests

very good. So it was right, because cat's claw caused also diarrhea.

I'm on only 1 drop of PC-Samento per day and I feel worse.

I'm not still sure that it is from Samento, so today I took 4 drops to

check:)

This is what Dr.Klinghardt writes about PC Samento:

1. BioPure PC Samento

(pentacyclic TOA-reduced energetically modified, ethically wild-crafted

Amazon Cat & #8217;s Claw):

In my work this product has shown the most consistent action against

Borrelia, Bartonella, Ehrlichiosis, Rickettsia, mycoplasma and other

coinfefctions.

Herxheimer reactions are expected and may occur at any stage

of the treatment (on the first day of use or after many months) and

repeatedly. During the & #8220;Herxes & #8221;I recommend colon hydrotherapy, KMT

lymphatic drainage, raw food diet, moderate exercise, drinking more water

then usual, a massage and a nurturing environment.

Dosage: start with 4 drops twice daily (or 8 dr/day). Wait one week before

increasing. If condition worsens, reduce dose. Sometimes patients

initially

tolerate only 1 drop/day (rare). Final dose: 2 dropperful/day

Contraindication: organ transplant immunotherapy. Don & #8217;t use if trying to

become pregnant. May interfere with blood thinning treatment

[Guest guest]

I IMPROVED with ONE tablet per day, of a certain herb. BUT then I went up to a

maximum of 4 pills, 4 times a day; for 5.5 months.

I would definitely go back to just ONE PILL a day of the herbs in question. I

had NO trouble with diarrhea with any of the herbs. And MY system is super

touchy as I have NO colon, and even the slightest wrong food, like say chocolate

gives me severe diarrhea.

I started out my herbs VERY slow in the beginning and didn't have trouble. As

a matter of fact I felt better in days after starting them.

Jim.

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djur1 <djur1@...> wrote:

I have problem with cat's claw(rain-tree) and resveratrol(source

naturals)

I am on dosage 4x2 daily for both of them.

Side effect: diarhea from both of them

andrographis 4x2 is ok for me. No side effects.

So what should I do?

1. Start again? maybe from 1 tablet per day and increasing only one

tablet every week?

2. Or maybe I should start whole herbs? I read that they are more

effective, but do they cause milder side effects?

BTW, is it possible to improve when for example on 4x1 dosage for core

protocol?

Help me, Please ))

Thank's

Jurek

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[Guest guest]

>

> I IMPROVED with ONE tablet per day, of a certain herb. BUT then I

went up to a maximum of 4 pills, 4 times a day; for 5.5 months.

>

> I would definitely go back to just ONE PILL a day of the herbs in

question. I had NO trouble with diarrhea with any of the herbs. And

MY system is super touchy as I have NO colon, and even the slightest

wrong food, like say chocolate gives me severe diarrhea.

>

> I started out my herbs VERY slow in the beginning and didn't have

trouble. As a matter of fact I felt better in days after starting them.

>

> Jim.

> ###

>

Thank You Jim!

Ok. I tried to add source naturals resveratrol very slowly.

I started with one tablet per day for six days.

Then I added second tablet (so 2x1 per day) and...diarrhea started:/

It seems that my body can't tolerate it - completely don't know why???:/

Please help me to find good source of whole herbs or powdered herb or

any form that is easier to tolerate. (but for egzample 1stchineese

doesn't send to Poland:/ so please let me know another internet-stores)

Thank's!

Jurek

[Guest guest]

djur1 wrote:

> Ok. I tried to add source naturals resveratrol very slowly.

> I started with one tablet per day for six days.

> Then I added second tablet (so 2x1 per day) and...diarrhea started:/

I'm extremely sensitive to all sorts of things. My first try at resveratrol

made me quite hyper. So, my doctor suggested I start by opening the

capsule, dabbing my finger on the powder inside and putting just that tiny

amount on my tongue and to go up from there.

It worked. After doing one dab for a day or two I went to two dabs, then

three, then 1/2 capsule, etc. etc. Now, if I stop taking the resveratrol

for some reason I can start out with a whole capsule.

My doctor works with allergies and chemical sensitivities, so he has good

ideas about how to handle medicines with the least possible reaction.

He also suggested the VRP resveratrol. I'm sure it's quite pure. I get it

through VRP.com He always suggests the highest quality, purest products and

I trust his advice much more than I trust buying other brands because they

are less expensive.

Good luck,

Deanna

[Guest guest]

deanna wrote:

He also suggested the VRP resveratrol. I'm sure it's quite pure. I get it

through VRP.com

hi deanna,

note that you can save 20% on most vrp products by buying from

Your Prescription for Health

http://www.illnessisoptional.com/ace/brand.asp?MnfID=1101

Vitamin Research Products, vrp, is brand that usually is filler-free. but i

found their resveratrol was more expensive than the Pure Encapsulations

brand. i've only found vrp products at 20% thru Your Prescription for

Health, 888-794-4325. they do not list on web all that they carry. so you

have to call them and ask if you want a vrp product that is not on website.

in general the brand Pure Encapsulations (often called " pure caps " ) is

always guarenteed to be free of fillers and binders, also very high quality.

so many of my supplements, including resveratrol are from pure caps. they

have several versions of resveratrol to choose from

i found pure caps brand at 20% off thru

Your Prescription for Health

http://www.illnessisoptional.com/ace/brand.asp?MnfID=1101

and pure caps brand at 25% off thru

My Health Store

http://store.myhealth-store.com/index.html

blessings,

kendra

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My doctor works with allergies and chemical sensitivities, so he has good

ideas about how to handle medicines with the least possible reaction.

He also suggested the VRP resveratrol. I'm sure it's quite pure. I get it

through VRP.com He always suggests the highest quality, purest products and

I trust his advice much more than I trust buying other brands because they

are less expensive.

Good luck,

Deanna

[Guest guest]

I do get MY herbs from 1st Chinese Herbs, so I don't know WHO to send them to

you overseas. Maybe Google Plum Flower Brand herbs, for Europe and see IF you

can find them there.

Jim.

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djur1 <djur1@...> wrote:

>

> I IMPROVED with ONE tablet per day, of a certain herb. BUT then I

went up to a maximum of 4 pills, 4 times a day; for 5.5 months.

>

> I would definitely go back to just ONE PILL a day of the herbs in

question. I had NO trouble with diarrhea with any of the herbs. And

MY system is super touchy as I have NO colon, and even the slightest

wrong food, like say chocolate gives me severe diarrhea.

>

> I started out my herbs VERY slow in the beginning and didn't have

trouble. As a matter of fact I felt better in days after starting them.

>

> Jim.

> ###

>

Thank You Jim!

Ok. I tried to add source naturals resveratrol very slowly.

I started with one tablet per day for six days.

Then I added second tablet (so 2x1 per day) and...diarrhea started:/

It seems that my body can't tolerate it - completely don't know why???:/

Please help me to find good source of whole herbs or powdered herb or

any form that is easier to tolerate. (but for egzample 1stchineese

doesn't send to Poland:/ so please let me know another internet-stores)

Thank's!

Jurek