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Hi,

Has anyone here done the protocol while dealing with colitis to some degree?

According to the book, Andrographis can HELP with colon irritation, but I

wouldn't start that

herb until beginning 3-4 of the others (Smilax, Eleuthero,Cat's Claw,

Resveratrol)

Has the protocol CAUSED colitis for anyone? I see " GI upset " listed all over the

place, but I'm

talking about colon irritation (burning, etc.)

Thanks,

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hi andrew,

i don't have colitis, but i do have irritable bowel. i think most of the GI

side effects of few of herbs are mostly like nausea rather intestinal. i

have very sensitive intestines and have not connected any of the herbs to

problems with colon. don't know how it will be for you.

important to start at low dose and increase slowly. also, start with one

herb at a time so that you can clearly see which herb, if any, may trigger

problems for you. also, keep in mind that many supplements have so-called

" inactive " ingredients, so it might not be the herb, but something else in

the capsule or tablet. don't know how sensitive you are to the " extras. " so,

if you do run into problems, it might be worth trying purer forms, like Pure

Encapsulations brand (which has NO extra fillers, binders, etc) or the WHOLE

(not " concentrated " ) Plum Flower brand herbs. for instance, i cannot

tolerate gluten or casein, so all my herbs have to be gluten-free or i get

major intestinal problems. and last spring i suddenly became intolerant to

all RICE :-( so i had to screen all by supplements for any rice fillers.

blessings on your healing journey,

kendra

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Hi,

Has anyone here done the protocol while dealing with colitis to some degree?

According to the book, Andrographis can HELP with colon irritation, but I

wouldn't start that herb until beginning 3-4 of the others (Smilax,

Eleuthero,Cat's Claw, Resveratrol)

Has the protocol CAUSED colitis for anyone? I see " GI upset " listed all over

the place, but I'm talking about colon irritation (burning, etc.)

Thanks,

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I had colitis BEFORE getting Lyme and using herbs. I now have had an illeostomy

since 1994.

I am very touchy when it comes to consuming many things.

I have had no trouble with Buhner's Core Protocol, plus many other of his herb

recommendations.

ONE that I did have a LOT of trouble though with BURNING, is the Siberian

Ginseng, eleuthero.

I had to stop that after a couple of days of it.

Jim.

drewsf1 <drews@...> wrote:

Hi,

Has anyone here done the protocol while dealing with colitis to some degree?

According to the book, Andrographis can HELP with colon irritation, but I

wouldn't start that

herb until beginning 3-4 of the others (Smilax, Eleuthero,Cat's Claw,

Resveratrol)

Has the protocol CAUSED colitis for anyone? I see " GI upset " listed all over the

place, but I'm

talking about colon irritation (burning, etc.)

Thanks,

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Hi ,

I'm going to answer a qualified yes to your quesiton re: Buhner herbs

and colitis.

One of my symptoms of bacterial infection (I have chlamydia

pneumoniae) is that I am hypersensitive to cortisol - I get side

effects from even low doses of hydrocortisone. As a consequence I also

do badly with most " adaptogenic " herbs, which again give me similar

side effects.

Since starting Buhner last week (the core 3 plus sarsaparilla), I've

been getting side effects of too much cortisol. One of the side

effects I get from excess cortisol is Colitis (inflammation in the

bowel), which I believe is yeast related (high cortisol allows yeast

to proliferate).

Anyway I suddenly reaslised that it was the Buhner herbs causing my

excess cortisol. My suspicions fell on sarsaparilla. Although Buhner's

description in his book does not mention it explicitlly, it does hint

at sarsaparilla being an adaptogen (he doesn't use the word adaptogen,

but he uses various other terms). So I did a search and found the

following:

" Sarsaparilla contains steroidal saponins, such as sarsasapogenin,

which may mimic the action of some human hormones; this property

remains undocumented. " from

http://groups.msn.com/HealingHerbs/herbssz.msnw

So thats the reason I've been getting colitis. Obviously I'm going to

drop sarsaparilla and just carry on with the core 3 for now.

I don't know if this applies to anyone else out there, or if its just

my unique health situation.

.

>

> Hi,

>

> Has anyone here done the protocol while dealing with colitis to some

degree?

>

> According to the book, Andrographis can HELP with colon irritation,

but I wouldn't start that

> herb until beginning 3-4 of the others (Smilax, Eleuthero,Cat's

Claw, Resveratrol)

>

> Has the protocol CAUSED colitis for anyone? I see " GI upset " listed

all over the place, but I'm

> talking about colon irritation (burning, etc.)

>

> Thanks,

>

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I personally HAD Colitis super bad back in the 90's. As a matter of fact it got

so bad in 94 that I had to have ALL of my colon taken out.

I was NOT on herbs at the time. IT was CIPRO that was the culpret. I HOPE

neither of you have ever had Cipro.

IT is a killer of colons. I even find it hard to believe that they even allow

it to be used anymore.

Jim

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jgarcia3788 <jgarcia3788@...> wrote:

Hi ,

I'm going to answer a qualified yes to your quesiton re: Buhner herbs

and colitis.

One of my symptoms of bacterial infection (I have chlamydia

pneumoniae) is that I am hypersensitive to cortisol - I get side

effects from even low doses of hydrocortisone. As a consequence I also

do badly with most " adaptogenic " herbs, which again give me similar

side effects.

Since starting Buhner last week (the core 3 plus sarsaparilla), I've

been getting side effects of too much cortisol. One of the side

effects I get from excess cortisol is Colitis (inflammation in the

bowel), which I believe is yeast related (high cortisol allows yeast

to proliferate).

Anyway I suddenly reaslised that it was the Buhner herbs causing my

excess cortisol. My suspicions fell on sarsaparilla. Although Buhner's

description in his book does not mention it explicitlly, it does hint

at sarsaparilla being an adaptogen (he doesn't use the word adaptogen,

but he uses various other terms). So I did a search and found the

following:

" Sarsaparilla contains steroidal saponins, such as sarsasapogenin,

which may mimic the action of some human hormones; this property

remains undocumented. " from

http://groups.msn.com/HealingHerbs/herbssz.msnw

So thats the reason I've been getting colitis. Obviously I'm going to

drop sarsaparilla and just carry on with the core 3 for now.

I don't know if this applies to anyone else out there, or if its just

my unique health situation.

.

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