Re: Re: Buhner - Artimisin-Risks/success stories?

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HI Selma,

selmanaka <hardynaka@...> wrote:

Connie,

I had been taking iron injections during the worst lyme days (and

babesia days), so I probably had enough iron???

I am sure the injections helped you a ton.

I just started a new iron product, I hope it helps...my ferritin is so low.

Injections seem like a good idea. I know absorption is difficult otherwise for

some.

Please keep us informed about the artesutanate experience!

I will! I'm currently trying to decide whether I can combine artesunate

with my rizols which contain artemisia. It feels like it could be too much, on

the other hand, I intuitively feel (esp. after what you told me below) that I

need to be a bit more aggressive with Babs.

Many people have trouble in killing babesia, but so far, what I hear

about Dr. K.'s patients, babesia is rather 'easy' to cure?? At least,

that's my impression. I had all symptoms of the stuff, quite hard and

was starting to be worried after all my trials to kill the beast.

Then I was given this PC-noni and I slowly got no more symptoms. I

did some KMT sessions, but it was not the main treatment in my case.

I even didn't know I was treating babesia, to tell you the truth. I

just realized my symptoms vanished after this PC-Noni. The liquid

NOni never did anything to me.

So was it Noni that got rid of Babs for you, or mepron/artemisinin?

I did PC-Noni for 3 months. Didnt notice anything in terms of herxing.

I would try the cryptolepis that Buhner proposes, maybe at longer

doses. I tried Neem, another malaria herb (called amargo, from rain

treee), turmeric, salt/C, sometimes all of these combined with

artemisinin, and the infection kept coming back after 2 week interval.

Wow, thanks for the info...I am glad to know this. IT sounds like it was a

bit of a struggle for you to get rid of Babs. How long did you do Neem and

artemisinin for? Was it adding the mepron or Pc-noni that finally did it for

you?

If after a double dose cryptolepis you still have symptoms, I would

re-do it WITH PC-Noni, some tonic water or so. The problem is that

each herb could be tolerated by some, while others wont'...

Thanks for your great suggestions. I've printed your mail to refer to as I

go through this protocol.

gota go, my daughter is calling!

Have a great day! Connie

Selma

>

> It's interesting that you say nobody you know, Selma, has healed

with

> Buhner's artemisinin protocol. Do you think longer periods were

> necessary, or that another element was necessary?

> I just finished Schaller's book on Babesia and he seems to think

that

> 4-5 months on artemisinin PLUS mepron or another drug or herb is

> necessary to combat babs. I've been mulling that thought over...

>

> Thanks, hope you are well! Connie

>

>

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This post is very confusing. I kinda think there are two people writing

interchanged paragraphs the way it sounds, but I am not sure. AND IF that is

so, I do not know WHO is writing WHAT????????? Since there is NO distinction

between them.

??????????

Jim.

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Connie Strasheim <conniekillbug@...> wrote:

HI Selma,

selmanaka <hardynaka@...> wrote: Connie,

I had been taking iron injections during the worst lyme days (and

babesia days), so I probably had enough iron???

I am sure the injections helped you a ton.

I just started a new iron product, I hope it helps...my ferritin is so low.

Injections seem like a good idea. I know absorption is difficult otherwise for

some.

Please keep us informed about the artesutanate experience!

I will! I'm currently trying to decide whether I can combine artesunate with my

rizols which contain artemisia. It feels like it could be too much, on the other

hand, I intuitively feel (esp. after what you told me below) that I need to be a

bit more aggressive with Babs.

Many people have trouble in killing babesia, but so far, what I hear

about Dr. K.'s patients, babesia is rather 'easy' to cure?? At least,

that's my impression. I had all symptoms of the stuff, quite hard and

was starting to be worried after all my trials to kill the beast.

Then I was given this PC-noni and I slowly got no more symptoms. I

did some KMT sessions, but it was not the main treatment in my case.

I even didn't know I was treating babesia, to tell you the truth. I

just realized my symptoms vanished after this PC-Noni. The liquid

NOni never did anything to me.

So was it Noni that got rid of Babs for you, or mepron/artemisinin?

I did PC-Noni for 3 months. Didnt notice anything in terms of herxing.

I would try the cryptolepis that Buhner proposes, maybe at longer

doses. I tried Neem, another malaria herb (called amargo, from rain

treee), turmeric, salt/C, sometimes all of these combined with

artemisinin, and the infection kept coming back after 2 week interval.

Wow, thanks for the info...I am glad to know this. IT sounds like it was a bit

of a struggle for you to get rid of Babs. How long did you do Neem and

artemisinin for? Was it adding the mepron or Pc-noni that finally did it for

you?

If after a double dose cryptolepis you still have symptoms, I would

re-do it WITH PC-Noni, some tonic water or so. The problem is that

each herb could be tolerated by some, while others wont'...

Thanks for your great suggestions. I've printed your mail to refer to as I go

through this protocol.

gota go, my daughter is calling!

Have a great day! Connie

Selma

>

> It's interesting that you say nobody you know, Selma, has healed

with

> Buhner's artemisinin protocol. Do you think longer periods were

> necessary, or that another element was necessary?

> I just finished Schaller's book on Babesia and he seems to think

that

> 4-5 months on artemisinin PLUS mepron or another drug or herb is

> necessary to combat babs. I've been mulling that thought over...

>

> Thanks, hope you are well! Connie

>

>

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Hi Helga and Selma,

My daughter is taking PC Noni along with Artemisinin. She Art tested for it

for her Babesia and her Dr. who used to work with Dr. K says it helps with

Babesia in the brain. She takes several dropperfuls and so I thought I would

pass this along. She is improving but we are doing so much I really don't know

what is helping the most...certainly salt/c for her Lyme and she also does the

KMT microcurrent from Dr. K as well.

My best, (Makayla'smom)

selmanaka <hardynaka@...> wrote:

Helga, is she free from babesia, or symptom free??

That would be very interesting indeed! She would be my Noni pal!!

PC-Noni can only be bought in Biopure, dr. K's company. I hate

to 'advertise' products like that. But that's the product I took. It's

not the regular noni juice (never did much for me and tasted awful!), I

think it's the tincture of noni plus some eletro-magnetic frequencies

added to it.

My naturopath said it's supposed to act intracellular, while Samento,

acts extracellular. So, PC-Noni helps the critters get out of cells and

then the medicine can kill them more easily, if I understood well. Dr.

K's main tinctures were PC-Samento and PC-Noni, used for most common

lyme and tick co-infections. Only recently, he incorporated more of

Buhner's herbs, as they test well through ART.

So it's useful for intracellular bugs. I herxed quite a lot with about

3 drops of PC-Noni for a few weeks, and gradually had no more babesia

symtpoms. I took so little of the thing, I guess 1/3 or 1/4th of the

bottle only!

I had killed lots of babesia before with artemisinin, artemisia annua,

Riamet, turmeric, other plants, I guess, so that's maybe the reason the

only left-overs were intracellular and that pc-noni did the rest of the

job.

I would be very interested to know whether your daughter is symptomless

now and for how long. Didn't she do anything else against babesia? Was

she babesia positive? I'm babesia symptom-free since about June, if my

memory is good. Or even before. So far, it didn't show up through ART

anymore.

Selma

>

> Hello Selma ,

> What is PC noni? What is the difference with noni concentrate drops?

> I am still trying to figure out what helped my daughter's babesia .

Maybe it was the noni drops she has taken for 2 1/2 years. Never did

artemissinin.

> Thanks

> Helga

>