Re: Anyone here on teasel tincture??

[Guest guest]

I am curious about teasel also. When I saw my doc yesterday, she told me

that its in Buhner's book so there is a bit of info about it. I will be

interseted to hear how it works for you.

Did you make your own tincture? What alcohol did you use? I have always

made glycerites since I'm alcohol intolerant; don't know if teasel is

something I could make into a glycerite. I'll explore that down the line

a ways. jo

[Guest guest]

,

Since you're using teasel, and that's on my list of things to think

about trying for Lyme arthritis, could you tell me - are you using

it for a specific Lyme symptom?

Sorry if you've already said.

ellen

>

> Selma,

>

> I'm on teasel. I have tolerated it well. I'm also on red root,

boneset, smilax tinctures as well. One thing I did notice is that

one day I took twice the recommend amount by accident, and really

herxed. It surprised me. I'm doing well on all of Buhner's herbs.

I dove right in and started taking the core protocol as well as some

for the co-infections.

>

> -angela

>

> [ ] Anyone here on teasel tincture??

> >

> >Soon my first bottle of teasel tincture will be ready and I would

like

> >to try it.

> >

> >I did it with 40% alcohol.

> >

> >I would like to know people's experiences with it, if they can

compare

> >it with Buhner's herbs or other treatments, and what was/ is the

> >outcome?

> >

> >After my bad experience with coptis (too strong for my kidneys),

I hope

> >I won't have to throw it down the drain!

> >

> >Thanks a lot,

> >Selma

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >The book, Confronting Lyme Disease: What Patient Stories Teach

Us, is now

> >available through Amazon and Booksurge Bookstores. Please visit

the

> >official website at http://www.confrontinglyme.com for more

information.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Ellen,

When I first became sick with Lyme, I was in constant pain in my lower back,

knees, ankles, elbows, hip. I saw a dramatic decrease with the teasel. I also

have my husband on in, who has suffered from knee pain for years. He was using

a chondrotin supplement. He stopped that completely and has had no more

problems. His pain was so bad he was considering surgery. He is amazed at how

well it has helped, and so am I.

Hope this helps.

-angela

[ ] Re: Anyone here on teasel tincture??

>

>,

>Since you're using teasel, and that's on my list of things to think

>about trying for Lyme arthritis, could you tell me - are you using

>it for a specific Lyme symptom?

>Sorry if you've already said.

>

>ellen

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the answers.

I'll start soon, sometime next week, I think, if my liver stabilizes.

For some reason, I'm having digestive problems and getting fatigue from

my liver, after food. I dropped andrographis to 2 caps a day, cut cats

claw to zero, now I'm only on sarsaparilla and artemisia annua tea.

Hope to substitute either one or another for teasel...

I start to wonder if I didn't overdo the metal detox these last weeks/

months....

Since about a month ago, I started herxing arthritis again. But I herx

with andrographis, I'm not sure with artemisia annua. And it's so

light, sometimes barely noticeable.

Jo, I make tinctures with vodka or any other alcohol (this time I made

with pear liquor). Best would be to find organic alcohol in the

pharmacy, but the costs are much higher. Minimum 40% so that I can keep

it for about a year or a bit more. Less than 40% is not interesting as

the shelf life is shorter.

You could try to use boiling water on the drops, most of the alcohol

will evaporate. That's how I used with my 2 year old. If you wish 100%

of alcohol to go, you'll have to boil it though. I don't know if that

would change the properties of the herbs... I suppose not all herbs

would lose power/ change as most Chinese herbs are cooked for many

minutes before consumption. But this is just a guess.

Selma

>

>

> I am curious about teasel also. When I saw my doc yesterday, she told

me

> that its in Buhner's book so there is a bit of info about it. I will

be

> interseted to hear how it works for you.

>

> Did you make your own tincture? What alcohol did you use? I have

always

> made glycerites since I'm alcohol intolerant; don't know if teasel is

> something I could make into a glycerite. I'll explore that down the

line

> a ways. jo

>

[Guest guest]

and Joyce, thanks for the info.

Glad it seems to work well with you, .

How much do you take a day? Is it a 1:4 tincture?

Happy to hear you're doing well with Buhners herbs. Wish you good luck.

Keep us informed about your progress, it helps many people to know how

others react to the magical herbs!! Good luck on co-infections too!!

Selma

> > Selma,

> >

> > I'm on teasel. I have tolerated it well. I'm also on red root,

> boneset, smilax tinctures as well. One thing I did notice is that

> one day I took twice the recommend amount by accident, and really

> herxed. It surprised me. I'm doing well on all of Buhner's herbs.

> I dove right in and started taking the core protocol as well as some

> for the co-infections.

> >

> > -angela

> >

>

[Guest guest]

With regard to hot water on herbs, there may be individual variation.

The glycerite (use glycerine instead of alcohol) is a 'hot' method,

meaning that I simmer it gently for a couple of hours. The herbs my doc

prescribed are good with this method. Other herbs require different

treatment. I dont' know about teasel yet. Will be discussing it with my

doc at some point when I get time. jo

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that info, Steve.

I haven't boiled any of the tinctures, I add boiling water to it to

give to my daughter when she was sick (she got cured with it, so it

worked like that, I suppose).

But for people that have allergy to alcohol, I don't know what would

work then, as I suppose the boiling water added to the tincture does

not take 100% of the alcohol away....

I keep wondering about boiling herbs, as the Chinese usually

recommend to boil them for about 20-30 minutes!! I tried artemisia

annua just on infusion, I felt next to nothing (the taste was good).

I went on like that for a few weeks (2-3) then shifted to the boiling

version (close lid). Wow. That was crazy. Very strong. But maybe

tinctures are different as if you boil them, I suppose a lot of the

herb will be gone with the steam...

Selma

> Selma

> i heard that boiling water will destroy the activity of any herbs.

> i was always told that warm water is best. might be worth looking

into.

>

> STeve

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, Steve, what I wrote was confusing...

I meant, I add boiling water to the tinctures to give to my daughter

to burn off the alcohol. If the kettle is on the fire, the

temperature is 100C. Once you take it off, it drops immediately to

about 80C. So that's the temperature I used on tinctures for her.

But I wonder if 100% of the alcohol would go like that... I meant

that one could 'boil' the tincture (with water added) at 100C, but I

really dont' know if this is a good idea... Probably not, as you

suggest.

Infusion 'teas' are herbs with added boiling water (about then 80C).

Like doing black tea.

Decoction 'teas' are done with cooking the herb for a few minutes

(sometimes for about half an hour at 100C). That's what I do with

artemisia annua. That's what usually the Chinese recommend for many

herbs (surely not all though).

I'm not sure I'm doing right with artemisia annua, but only infusion

was not enough. I even leave it soaking one day before when I

remember to do that and then boil it next day in the morning.

Selma

>

> Hi Selma

> i wasn't sure what you meant. obviously teas can be added to

boiling

> water

> but with tinctures, they always say add them to warm water - not

boiling

> to burn off the alcohol. for some reason hot water inactivates them.

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