Re: Re: Dr. Orens/patient files

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In a message dated 12/20/99 12:59:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

SloopDoggie@... writes:

<< Are these so-called poorly documented patient files available for

inspection? Hmmmm, no, I didn't think so. >>

prob not, but the transcipts will prob be available for a fee..

...I do not doubt his files were a mess...not because I think poorly of the

doctor, but because he defended himself not by admitting his files were not

proper, but he used the defense...he was like other doctors when it came to

charting.....and the OPMC in response said....the standard of care is what a

reasonable and prudent doctor would do......they also go on to say that poor

record keeping does not equate to poor patient care, but they were able to

use his own files against him....like stating a patient was complaining of

chest pain and then not documenting ANY kind of exam or follow-up.....

One thing I find incredulous is that they found Dr. Dattwlyer to have no

animus towards Oren's.......That better be a number one priority to dispute

him as the " states witness " against him......

If you look at what Dr. Donta testified to.....he was able not to offer much

help...because he was presented with the same files to read, and he was

honest when he said he doesn't start with IV therapy so his practice was

different..he also said he couldn't comment on the medical records because he

is not a medical record expert....I have to be totally honest here....if Dr.

Oren's records were better, I would bet a lot of money Donta would have been

able to have help Dr. O.

I am just crossing my fingers that the other " targeted docs " withstand the

file scrutiny a lot better......

I also wonder whether Ira Maurer will post the transcript etc. as he is the

attorney of record when Dr. O was revoked....I am trying to figure out an

easy way to scan this paperwork... so people can read it for

themselves....the OPMC pages some of us got...but I do not have a large flat

bed scanner...just a 5x7 feeding scanner

Please everyone understand...I wrote a letter of support...I traveled into

NYC because I felt strongly about this.....

so when I explain stuff that is in here, and why I can see how they were able

to " get " Dr. O.....I am not saying it is justified (morally) at all...but I

can see how his actions were construed as gross negligence legally...and I

pray he has a more effective lawyer with his appeal, and that none of the

other doctors face the same result.

I do have a problem with the OPMC. for many reasons

...I feel the doctors 6 patients who had their charts reviewed should have

been examined medically and interviewed, no matter whether oren's lawyer

wanted it or not.....It would seem a fairer way to thoroughly evaluate the

allegations.....and would have given Dr. O a fairer hearing.....Bernadette

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In a message dated 12/20/99 12:59:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

SloopDoggie@... writes:

<< OPMC said it wasn't necessary >>

one patient had 28 lyme serologies in a short time frame.....

I myself had one initial WB, then one monthly while on IV.....3...

then 2 WB with a new doc...

6 in 2 years......and I thought that was a lot...so 28 looks weird to me....

if someone was on iv and had a monthly...that could be 12-13.....

I really do hope the testimony becomes available.....Bernadette