RE: New member - Fatigue question

Posted November 12, 2006 · November 12, 2006

Welcome Baronrose,

things i do for depression:

- SAMe (expensive)

- cod liver oil - 2 tbs / day

- B vitamins

- some swear by inositol (large amts of powder form only) - hard to

say if this made any difference with me -

perhaps i didn't take enough)

- exercise works better than all of the above

i don't believe exercise helps with endorphins or anything - it's more

of an anti-inflammatory -

and from what i've read, depression can be caused by inflammation.

Steve

On Nov 11, 2006, at 3:36 PM, baronsrose wrote:

> Hi everyone! I just recently joined this group. I am reading Buhner's

> book on healing Lyme. I am pretty sick (especially since it has been

> getting cold). My main problems are: fatigue, cognitive dysfunction,

> joint and muscle pain, and depression. I have just started using

> Andrographis, Cat's Claw, and Japanese Knotweed. I'm starting slow

> because the holiday's are approaching and I don't want to feel any

> worse than I already do. Can anyone tell me the best thing(s) for

> fatigue and depression that they are using. I can deal with the pain

> as long as I have energy, clarity, and feel alive. Thank you for your

> help. I've given up on Western medicine. I've had Lyme for 14 years

> and have been through the whole abx. treatments w/little improvement.

> Baronsrose

>

Posted November 12, 2006 · November 12, 2006

welcome! a few things that have helped me

for fatigue:

1. breathing! deep, slow, full belly breaths. alternate nostril breathing (a

yoga method). breathing fresh, outdoor air

2. excercise, whatever you are able to do, even better if outdoors. (just sit

outdoors if can't do anything else--i spend lot of time sitting on my deck when

can't move)

for depression:

1. smile, just a little smile, even when (especially when) don't feel like it.

2. gratitude, think of one thing you are grateful for, then one more thing ...

send an expression of gratitude (an inner smile, an thought of appreciation, a

phone call, an email, a card, a hug ...)

3. give someone or something a hug. yourself, a friend, a dog, a tree, a rock

....

may all beings be free of suffering.

kendra

Re: [ ] New member - Fatigue question

Welcome Baronrose,

things i do for depression:

- SAMe (expensive)

- cod liver oil - 2 tbs / day

- B vitamins

- some swear by inositol (large amts of powder form only) - hard to

say if this made any difference with me -

perhaps i didn't take enough)

- exercise works better than all of the above

i don't believe exercise helps with endorphins or anything - it's more

of an anti-inflammatory -

and from what i've read, depression can be caused by inflammation.

Steve

Posted November 12, 2006 · November 12, 2006

Baronrose,

Siberian Ginseng worked great for boosting my energy, along with Smilax

(sarsaparilla).

Are you drinking coffee or any other caffeine? I was, and had to go cold turkey

for the sake of my adrenals. I also take an adrenal supplement too. The first

week off coffee was bad, but I can say I no longer have the afternoon crash and

burn I had before when I was drinking coffee.

Also, clean up your diet if you haven't already. I eat only organic, low fat,

low sugar (I was NO sugar for two months). Remember your probiotics!

Protein is important. I remember by LLMD telling me to eat more beef.

When I felt really bad, I was staying indoors all the time. Just getting out

and sitting in the sun does wonders (maybe the vitamin D impact?).

Hang in there. I've been following the Buhner protocol, doing acupuncture and

Chinese herbs, and I'm now much better. Not 100%, but I can be a part of life

now, which wasn't the case in June. I have two young kids, so I need all the

energy I can get!

Take care,

[ ] New member - Fatigue question

>

>Hi everyone! I just recently joined this group. I am reading Buhner's

>book on healing Lyme. I am pretty sick (especially since it has been

>getting cold). My main problems are: fatigue, cognitive dysfunction,

>joint and muscle pain, and depression. I have just started using

>Andrographis, Cat's Claw, and Japanese Knotweed. I'm starting slow

>because the holiday's are approaching and I don't want to feel any

>worse than I already do. Can anyone tell me the best thing(s) for

>fatigue and depression that they are using. I can deal with the pain

>as long as I have energy, clarity, and feel alive. Thank you for your

>help. I've given up on Western medicine. I've had Lyme for 14 years

>and have been through the whole abx. treatments w/little improvement.

>Baronsrose

>

>The book, Confronting Lyme Disease: What Patient Stories Teach Us, is now

>available through Amazon and Booksurge Bookstores. Please visit the

>official website at http://www.confrontinglyme.com for more information.

>

Posted November 12, 2006 · November 12, 2006

Greetings,

Wow, do i appreciate the positivity here! ;-)

Just came online to read the fatigue-related question, and here is

Kendra's response, which is very similar to what mine would be.

Going outdoors in a natural setting is my very favorite therapy for

just about anything. Breathing deeply in a place where there is

clean, fresh air, where you can feel the aliveness of plants and

trees, or the beauty of water. If the water is still, you can feel

that clear stillness within yourself. If the water is moving, you can

feel that this moving aliveness is within yourself. I make sure to go

outside everyday, no matter how i am feeling. In rainy or cold

weather, i just make sure to have on hand the right clothing. There

are winters when i joke about bowing to the " gods of goretex " , just

because having the right clothing makes a huge difference when i'm not

feeling well.

And feeding one's spirit, to me is primary, because after all it is

what we have!!! There are so many paths of inspiration, and finding

something that resonates with the truth within us is beneficial beyond

words.

I will chime in with agreement about gratitude....it truly helps me to

write down things i am grateful for if a funk starts to hit.

May all Beings Be at Peace,

Yarrow

>

> welcome! a few things that have helped me

>

> for fatigue:

> 1. breathing! deep, slow, full belly breaths. alternate nostril

breathing (a yoga method). breathing fresh, outdoor air

> 2. excercise, whatever you are able to do, even better if outdoors.

(just sit outdoors if can't do anything else--i spend lot of time

sitting on my deck when can't move)

>

> for depression:

> 1. smile, just a little smile, even when (especially when) don't

feel like it.

> 2. gratitude, think of one thing you are grateful for, then one more

thing ... send an expression of gratitude (an inner smile, an thought

of appreciation, a phone call, an email, a card, a hug ...)

> 3. give someone or something a hug. yourself, a friend, a dog, a

tree, a rock ...

>

> may all beings be free of suffering.

> kendra

>

Posted November 13, 2006 · November 13, 2006

-Dear baronsrose,

Welcome to the group. This is a wonderful group of folks.

Be sure to browse the links and database for more general info.

I am taking CoQ-10 for fatigue. I'm not sure if it is working or not,

sometimes I am very energetic (seemd to start after I started the

CO-Q), then I become seriously fatigued, so it's hard to tell for sure.

Might be worth a try.

I know what you mean about energy and clarity. That fatigue and brain

fog are probably the worst symptoms for me.

When I've been *really* depressed in the past - don't think it was

Lyme, but who knows? - I've used SAM-e and that would help me a lot,

and quickly. If you do SAM-e be sure to get a good brand, and take it

in the morning, 1/2 hour before any food.

You can increase the dosage until you feel jittery, and then reduce.

That is what I did, because I wanted to feel better fast!

Let us know how you do.

best,

ellen

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