Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 I was pon inferon and rebetron..3 shots a week and 6 pills a day and it took it's toll on me..I wish ya luck..Let me know how it goes ok?? [ ] alternative medicines hi, i was wondering if anyone has gone through different methods to get well from this disease? i recently was introduced to alpha lipolic acid and a doctor that gives this intravenously and it takes the counts way down. i have 1a and see no hope through interferon. any thoughts or ideas? Rita May you be blessed by an angel Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 - i will, thank you, i have decided to go ahead with treatment. i do not have many symptoms but have just turned 40 and i have been told this is the age it starts progressing at its worse. how are you doing now? -- In , janet williams <janet_williams23@...> wrote: > > I was pon inferon and rebetron..3 shots a week and 6 pills a day and it took it's toll on me..I wish ya luck..Let me know how it goes ok?? > > > [ ] alternative medicines > > hi, i was wondering if anyone has gone through different methods to get well from this disease? i recently was introduced to alpha lipolic acid and a doctor that gives this intravenously and it takes the counts way down. i have 1a and see no hope through interferon. any thoughts or ideas? > > > Rita > May you be blessed by an angel > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 thanks jan, i just joined this board, hoping to make some friends and hear peoples stories and such. i am finding myself so tired these days and that is not good for me. the scale isnt being very nice either, so i need to watch it there. i saw a dr. who said it is very critical not to gain weight, so what happens? anyhow,what part of the country are you? i am in california. > > > > I was pon inferon and rebetron..3 shots a week and 6 pills a day > and it took it's toll on me..I wish ya luck..Let me know how it goes > ok?? > > > > > > [hepatitis_c_ support] alternative medicines > > > > hi, i was wondering if anyone has gone through different methods > to get well from this disease? i recently was introduced to alpha > lipolic acid and a doctor that gives this intravenously and it takes > the counts way down. i have 1a and see no hope through interferon. > any thoughts or ideas? > > > > > > Rita > > May you be blessed by an angel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 > I've always believed my many symptoms have a common cause, > unfortunately the doctors in this country just treat symptoms and do > not do much investigation into possible causes. I've suffered for > over 6 years and had numerous medications and steroids etc, > unfortunately my problems have just been getting worse, after eating > I feel dizzy, then I get tired, brain fog, strange tastes etc etc. > Trying to concentrate at work is almost impossible. After many test > I have been diagnosed with a fatty liver, pre-diabetes and my is > 4.1. Unfortunately, it does seem that doctors are NOT taught to think outside the box when hypothyroid patients present all their symptoms, signs, tell their story etc. If their blood results are within the reference range, however much they are at the top or the bottom of the range, they still declare their patients "normal" and not having hypothyroidism. Can you tell us a little about the "strange taste" and how long you have noticed this?> > Doctors find it strange that I have a fatty liver, yet I am not > overweight and I don't drink alcohol, my endocrinologist even said > my TSH is elevated, but just thinks I should keep an eye on it.> > Looking at all my symptoms, they relate to Hypothyroidism, yet my > doctor says my thyroid test is normal. Perhaps the time has come to sit down, make a list of all your symptoms and signs (go to our website www.tpa-uk.org.uk and click "Hypothyroidiosm" then on the drop down list, click "Symptoms and Signs") and compare yours with them. Take your temperature every morning for 4/5 days before you get out of bed and write these down too on the same list. Normal temperature is 98.4 degrees F. If yours is 97.8 or even less, this is an indication your metabolism isn't working. Write down lots of questions on the list. Make an appointment with your GP and ask for another referral to the endocrinologist. Take the list to your consultant and go through it all with a fine tooth comb and tell him you would appreciate a trial of thyroxine. The medical profession have only taken TSH ionto account since the 1970's and diagnosed hypothyroidism much better before this test was invented.> > I've looked into herbal medications because I've had no help from > doctors; I found herbs that reduce blood sugar and detoxify the body > are a real help.> > Based on this, I think my problems maybe related to yeast and > candida, since acetaldehyde(bi-product of yeast) blocks the > conversion of T4 to T3.> > http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/related-> conditions/thyroid-treatments/> > I am currently taking the following:-> > Fenugreek(Helps reduce blood sugar, also yeast does not like this > herb)> Barley Grass Juice(Helps to remove acetaldehyde)> N-Acetyl Cysteine(Helps regulate blood sugar and detoxify liver)> Zinc.(Required by enzyme for T4 to T3 conversion)> Selenium(Required by enzyme for T4 to T3 conversion)> Iodine from kelp.> > I feel much better but not perfect, I am therefore considering a > trial of Armour, since this contains T3 which I may have a lack of > due to the yeast or other toxic substance, such as mercury in my > fillings or the fluoride in the mouthwash I use.> > Anyone else had problems with your doctor thinking that your > problems are psychological after providing them with a list of > symptoms and possible causes?> > I've given up on doctors! My problems have just been made worse by > doctors, my improvements have come from my own investigations.> > Since I've no choice but to self prescribe, I'm interested in any > feedback from people who have tried alternative medicines(Chinese > Yin/Yang thing, herbs etc), also I'd like to know the best place to > get Armour online. You have certainly done your homework and have obviously read a great deal about this disease and you are therefore on the right road. If the above doesn't work and you are still being refused a trial period of thyroid hormone replacement, then you have no option but to take your health into your own hands. Although you mention such things as chinese herbs etc, the fact is that if you ARE hypothyroid and not putting out the thyroid hormones your body requires, the only thing that will work is thyroid hormone replacement, either synthetic or natural - there is no substitute. I would mention three things you should first take care of. One is low adrenal reserve. You can get a 24 hour salivary adrenal profile done through NPTech Services (have a look in the FILES section of this forum and you can see a list of the tests and the prices they charge). This test will tell you where your cortisol and DHEA levels lie at 4 specific times during the day. If you do suffer with low adrenal reserve, you will need to boost your adrenals BEFORE starting on any thyroid hormone replacement. Two, you could be suffering with Candida Albicans. Take a glass of water up to bed with you tonight and first thing in the morning, spit into the top of the water and after a while, if you see thin threads going towards the bottom of the glass, or the water goes cloudy, this is an indication you could be suffering with this disease. Go to our FILES again and do the Candida Questionnaire (also do the Adrenal Questionnaire) and see how you score. You may need to treat this again BEFORE you start thyroid hormone replacement. Three, you could have a low ferritin level (stored iron). Ask your GP to give you a blood test to see if this is the case. If you do have a low ferritin, you would need to take some form of elemental iron, such as Ferrous sulphate 200 mgs. to build up oyour iron reserve. All of the abofe will stop any thyroid hormone replacement from being absorbed so it is essential you find out whether you suffer from any (or all) of these and get them boosted or treated. Do you know whether your GP tested your blood to see if you have antibodies to your thyroid. Ask for the results and if you have not been tested, ask for this test. If you have antibodies to your thyroid, they see your thyroid tissue as public enemy number one and set about destroying it, thus your thyroid will be unable to put out the hormone your body requires. I know this sounds a lot to think about and to do, but take one step at a time and you will gradually get there. Read everything you can about natural thyroid extract (Armour Thyroid, USP) on our website and in our FILES. Read also the paper "how to Use Armour" and you will find the details in there where to purchase it and how to use it. You MUST follow the recommendations there because natural thyroid extract contains ALL the thyroid hormones your body needs and you must take great care with medicating yourself so that you don't take too much, as the T3 and T2 in Armour are VERY active. Hope this helps. luv - Sheila > > Thanks.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hi glyn, There is info on the TPA website that will help you eliminate the candida as this may be your root cause. ----- Subject: Alternative Medicines Based on this, I think my problems maybe related to yeast and candida, since acetaldehyde(bi-product of yeast) blocks the conversion of T4 to T3. http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/related- conditions/thyroid-treatments/ I am currently taking the following:- Fenugreek(Helps reduce blood sugar, also yeast does not like this herb) Barley Grass Juice(Helps to remove acetaldehyde) N-Acetyl Cysteine(Helps regulate blood sugar and detoxify liver) Zinc.(Required by enzyme for T4 to T3 conversion) Selenium(Required by enzyme for T4 to T3 conversion) Iodine from kelp. I feel much better but not perfect, I am therefore considering a trial of Armour, since this contains T3 which I may have a lack of due to the yeast or other toxic substance, such as mercury in my fillings or the fluoride in the mouthwash I use. Anyone else had problems with your doctor thinking that your problems are psychological after providing them with a list of symptoms and possible causes? I've given up on doctors! My problems have just been made worse by doctors, my improvements have come from my own investigations. Since I've no choice but to self prescribe, I'm interested in any feedback from people who have tried alternative medicines(Chinese Yin/Yang thing, herbs etc), also I'd like to know the best place to get Armour online. Thanks. ------------------------------------ Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 You need a RT3 test as well as the FT3 & Ft4 at the same time which will show more about the non-conversion of T4 to T3. It is the ratio that matters. If you can get this done then go to the NTH adrenal group as they understand it there. Assuming this is a problem this needs to be sorted I think by stopping all meds containing T4 first & taking only T3 - but I must stress that I know almost nothing about this and so may be giving you totally the wrong advice, but on the group mentioned will put you right. Val Posted by: "Glyn Munster" glyn_simm@... glyn_simm Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:57 am (PDT) Just spoke to my doctor, he said the lab's normal range is 0.35 to 6.9, I am 4.1, unfortunately there is no measurement of T3 or antibodies, he said what I am talking about is beyond his knowledge and I must therefore see a specialist, basically he will not give medication unless a specialist has said ok, seems a GP is just good for coughs and colds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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