Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 Blackburn wrote: ..> Be very thorough in creating a medical journal of ANY symptoms. They ..> may or may not be related to the vaccine shot, but if, or when, it ..> comes time to prove you case, you will have exact dates and other ..> critical information. That's a good start, but it's not enough. You have to BE SURE you complain (politely) to your military primary care physician to make sure all this is in your official military medical record. It helps if you have clinically demonstrable physical signs (joint swelling, dermatitis, severe fatigue, morning joint stiffness, rashes, fevers, or anything else you can demonstrate on a physical or laboratory exam). So if you develop ANYTHING of significance, see your military primary care physician. If you believe you're not being taken seriously, you also have the right to ask for a subspecialist referral. Your fitness for duty and your VA benefits -- particularly the service-connection of any illnesses or injuries you incur while on active duty -- are ONLY predicated on your military medical record. If it's not in your official military medical record, it doesn't officially exist. And if it doesn't officially exist, it won't reflect on your fitness-for-duty or your service connection for VA benefit purposes. If at any time you believe that your physical disabilities significantly affect your fitness-for-duty and ESPECIALLY your ability to deploy world-wide, ask your military physician to refer you for a fitness-for-duty MEB. This is your right! If it leads to a formal PEB and the formal PEB offers you anything less than 30% disability and separation pay (that is, at least the minimum full disability retirement), TURN IT DOWN! That means they've discovered something significant that could affect your fitness for duty, and they want to get rid of you before you can build a good case in your favor. So if you're sick, stress the system! Even if you don't get everything you're entitled to (and chances are you won't), you'll generate a serious paper trail of military procedural errors that will serve the basis of an appeal to the Federal Courts. While I'm thinking about the Federal Courts, START SAVING MONEY for your own personal legal fund while you're in the military and earning an income. I know that if you're not earning much to begin with this won't be easy, but considering everything you have at stake, you can't afford not to get ready to fight the military for what is rightly yours. Cancel cable. Eat in. Don't buy anything you don't absolutely need (which is anything other than food, rent, and utilities). Whatever you have to do, put away whatever you can in your personal legal fund. (A number of us -- including me -- are doing what we can to set precedents in the Federal Courts to make it easier and less expensive for those who come along later, but you'll still have to pay your own way when the time comes.) Remember, if your health problems aren't in your official military medical record, they don't officially exist! And if they don't officially exist, you can't use them for evidence in support of any claim you might have against the military or the VA. Neither the military or the VA will give you what is rightly yours without a real fight, and you have to have official documentation to support your case. You can't prove the military was in error when there's no evidence that the military knew you were sick! And the military won't know if YOU don't tell it by documenting it in your medical record! (Have I emphasized that enough?!) I'm writing all of this from my own experience. If my experience is too specific or is not the optimal strategy, then I invite others to correct my recommendations to more closely reflect reality. But what I've done (as I've outlined here) has served me well so far. (I have an extraordinarily well-documented case. The military isn't fighting me right now on the facts of my case but on whether the Federal Courts have jurisdiction to do things the military didn't do and that the military maintains only it can do. This is obviously a key point. We have statute and case law on our side, but it's taking time to prove it because the court dockets are congested. When we get past this, proving my case in court should be much easier. And we will have solved this problem for others who come along afterwards. But I digress.) Remember: VOTE! Fisher, MD Former LTC USAFR MC FS ======================================================================== ======== The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet. -- Damon Runyon ======================================================================== ======== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 Hey Doc Fisher : SIR: Tango Yankee for still Standing Tall for the The Truth.... May I, after almost 4 yrs of being ill from AVIP, May I Suggest Yet Another Addendum to Your Honest Advice to U.S. Military Vaccinated Ill : Grab Your Ankles and Spell RUN 3 X's>>>>>>> TSGT E. Stauffer, 326th Airlift Sq., Dover AFB (home of the experimented-on ill) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 One other thing if you accept any form of seperation bonus, and then go to the VA to attempt to increase your disability, be aware the VA will withhold any payments until they have recouped the bonus amount. RE: 4th shot Blackburn wrote: .> Be very thorough in creating a medical journal of ANY symptoms. They .> may or may not be related to the vaccine shot, but if, or when, it .> comes time to prove you case, you will have exact dates and other .> critical information. That's a good start, but it's not enough. You have to BE SURE you complain (politely) to your military primary care physician to make sure all this is in your official military medical record. It helps if you have clinically demonstrable physical signs (joint swelling, dermatitis, severe fatigue, morning joint stiffness, rashes, fevers, or anything else you can demonstrate on a physical or laboratory exam). So if you develop ANYTHING of significance, see your military primary care physician. If you believe you're not being taken seriously, you also have the right to ask for a subspecialist referral. Your fitness for duty and your VA benefits -- particularly the service-connection of any illnesses or injuries you incur while on active duty -- are ONLY predicated on your military medical record.. ........... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 ..> Grab Your Ankles and Spell RUN 3 X's>>>>>>> Good one! ..> TSGT E. Stauffer, 326th Airlift Sq., Dover AFB (home ..> of the experimented-on ill) Thank YOU and all those at Dover! It was Sonnie Bates's " 60 Minutes " segment (Jan 2000) that clued me in to what I'd gotten. I got the shot on 24 Sep 93, but wasn't told what I'd been given (in spite of my telling the tech to do so), and the tech handed my shot record back to me without annotating it. I got sick less than a year later. I had no idea what it was until you all came through for all of us. WE WILL WIN! ======================================================================== ======== The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet. -- Damon Runyon ======================================================================== ======== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2002 Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 Does anyone know if thimerosol is in the anthrax and/or smallpox vaccine? Thanks, Tim _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 doesn't look to be in anthrax http://www.bioportcorp.com/AnthraxVaccine/insert/avainsert.asp http://www.whale.to/a/pdf/dryvax.pdf RE: 4th shot > > Does anyone know if thimerosol is in the anthrax and/or smallpox vaccine? > Thanks, > > Tim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 RE: 4th shot > > Does anyone know if thimerosol is in the anthrax and/or smallpox vaccine? > Thanks, > > Tim MPBI From the old product insert: " Anthrax Vaccine Adsorbed is a sterile product made from filtrates of microaerophilic cultures of an avirulent, nonencapsulated strain of Bacillus anthracis which elaborates the protective antigen during the growth period. The cultures are grown in a synthetic liquid medium and the final product is prepared from the sterile filtered culture fluid. The potency of this product is confirmed according to the U. S. Food and Drug regulations (21 CFR 620.23): Additional Standards for Anthrax Vaccine Adsorbed. The final product contains no more than 2.4mg aluminum hydroxide (equivalent to 0.83 mg aluminum) per 0.5 cc dose. Formaldehyde, in a final concentration not to exceed 0.02%, and benzethonium chloride, 0.0025%, are added as preservatives. " Bioport's The Current label: " DESCRIPTION Anthrax Vaccine Adsorbed, (BioThraxT) is a sterile, milky-white suspension (when mixed) made from cell-free filtrates of microaerophilic cultures of an avirulent, nonencapsulated strain of Bacillus anthracis. The production cultures are grown in a chemically defined protein-free medium consisting of a mixture of amino acids, vitamins, inorganic salts and sugars. The final product, prepared from the sterile filtrate culture fluid contains proteins, including the 83kDa protective antigen protein, released during the growth period. The final product contains no dead or live bacteria. The final product is formulated to contain 1.2 mg/mL aluminum, added as aluminum hydroxide in 0.85% sodium chloride. The product is formulated to contain 25 /mL benzethonium chloride and 100 /mL formaldehyde, added as preservatives. " ======================================== This was sent to me from the UK for their vaccine: I note the spelling of " Thiomersal " a search with this spelling does yield results in google... (Not sure what if any difference from " thimerosol " ) http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2001/UKLicVaxwithThim.htm >>>>>> " ..The following is the technical detail of the vaccine as I have it: Manufacturer: MRA/CAMR (micro-biological Research Authority/Centre For Applied Microbiology and Research), Porton Down, Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK Bach No: 402, Expires: May 2003 Injection Shedule: 1st Visit (5ml) + 3 weeks + 3 weeks + 6 months + yearly booster (4 injections +booster) Active ingredient: antigen (alum percipitated sterile filtrate) no more than 0.125ml/5ml dose Other Ingredients: Aluminium Potassium Sulphate, Thiomersal, Sodium Chloride, and sterile water. " >>>>> Gretchen List owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 In a message dated 5/4/2007 11:14:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: that is awesome!!! congrats to you, what tx are you going through? and how do you feel?- _____________ Took my 4th shot last nite all I ant to do is sleep, but I feel ok!! I am genotype 1, stage 2 starting at 1.2 million viral load. AST and ALT 140, 149 I am on: 5 capsles of rebetrol 1 injection of pegintron for 48 weeks During my 4th week (next week) I start taking my protease inhibitor for 44 weeks. Dr. Schiff is my doctor and I love him. Amy See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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