Day 4

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it is quite today - but you seem to be right on track - yea!!! It's good that you're already making a plan to deal with all your Feb plans!!!

Day 4

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fitday.com is great and I highly recommend it - I print it out everynight to add to my records. you're doing great - keep passing that thing by - or find another route LOL

>>>>Your doing great maybe I should start doing that in fitday.. I'm at work now and I passed the vending machines about 3x so far and just kept walking normally I hit the vending machines 2 or 3x a day..

yikes - stay strong this time

>>>>Everytime I make the smallest weight loss my DH brings me home something. Last time I was doing so good lost about 20-30 lbs he started bring me home candy bars and ice cream he thought I would want it ??

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From: " " <bostonsweety27@...>

> Thats great.... how did your afternoon ride go??

I'm afraid it didn't happen. We ran out of time. I did clean off my

parents very big driveway with a leaf blower so Lynn could practice

skateboarding. I did 20 min. on the treadmill tonight since we didn't

get the ride in this afternoon.

> Your doing great maybe I should start doing that in fitday.. I'm at work

now and I passed the vending machines about 3x so far and just kept walking

normally I hit the vending machines 2 or 3x a day..

That's great. There is way too much temptation in our everyday lives.

Think how much money you'll save by avoiding the vending machine. Tracking

food intake is a total pain in the butt but I think we tend to kid ourselves

if we don't track carefully. Enter everything in Fit Day. Just commit to 1

week to see what your calorie and nutrient intake is. I've been stumbling

around doing various programs for the last 2 years but none of them had

enough accountability.

> Everytime I make the smallest weight loss my DH brings me home something.

Last time I was doing so good lost about 20-30 lbs he started bring me home

candy bars and ice cream he thought I would want it ??

Why? Did you talk to him about it? What did he say? I think he needs some

smack therapy like a's husband. Apply liberally with a baseball

bat.

> If they have a job for him he goes out if not he comes back home..

Can't he phone in? How far away is his job?

I guess I'll tack my food for the day on here:

breakfast

yogurt

2 slices whole wheat toast

lunch

tomato soup

sandwich with ham, turkey and swiss on whole wheat

snack

huge apple

dinner

whole grapefruit

3 eggrolls

snack

1.5 ounces milk in hot vanilla milk

Total is 2006 calories, 28% fat, 10% saturated, 53% carbs, 19% protein, 28

grams fiber. Day 4 was great! I was hungry this afternoon but I didn't

have the shaky anger crash like the last few days. I can't imagine only

eating 1400 calories. I'm hungry on 2000!

I'll weigh in tomorrow. That will be morning of Day 5. I know I've lost a

few pounds already. Cool.

Ann

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-ann: you are doing great, especially with planning ahead!!! WTG!!

Faye

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>

> I have my food all planned out in Fit day. 2006 calories with a

healthy

> balance. The 2000 calories seems to be working great for right now

so I'll

> stay here for the time being. I want to make this a gradual,

healthy weight

> loss. I always blow it and I'm hoping that not limiting calories

too much

> will increase my chance of success.

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From: " " <bostonsweety27@...>

> Yeah I have to pass the vending machines to get to the bathroom and by me

drinking lots of water there is not a option for me not to pass them.. but

in the past week I have only bought one thing out of that machine.. So thats

a plus..

Take healthy snacks with you to reduce temptation. Of course those baby

carrots are no match to the stuff in the machine.

> He just says I thought you would like it etc and I explained to him I was

trying to lose weight and he got all offended so I just backed off and ate

whatever he brought me.. ended up gaining the 20-30 and added another 10

Ok. That's behind you and now you have to learn from experience. You have

to stand your ground. So what if he gets offended. You are worth it! You

have to do this for you. He'll understand when he has a fit wife on his

arm. You guys put up with way too much crap from your husbands.

Remember you have to train them like a small child or a puppy.

> Good food choices and its getting easier right?? I can't imagine eating

only 1400 either I weigh so much now that sometimes 2000 seems to little but

my body seems to be getting used to it.. so thats good..

Easier..... hmmm..... maybe a little. I'm hungry right now but I'm not

famished and shaky. I think calorie counting (or exchanges or windows or

whatever) is important so we don't eat too little as well as not eating too

much.

> Let us know how you did... I weighed myself again this morning and I'm

afraid to even think that I lost as much as it said I know its all water

weight being the first week and all but I'm afraid that tomorrow I'll weigh

again and it will show a gain and that I didnt really lose that much..

So what did the scale say? Did you call it water weight when you gained it?

If not then you don't have to call it water weight when you lose it.

Just keep up the good work and you'll keep off the weight.

I lost 5 pounds this week. I'm happy because I know I've been eating

healthy and exercising but my weight has been fluctuating a lot the last few

months depending on the time of the month. Today 268, last Mon. 273, the

Monday before that 268, the Mon before that 273, the Mon. before that 267.

Weird since I've only been back on a plan for 4 days. It doesn't matter

though since I'm very happy with my progress the last few days and I know

I'll have a real loss to report next Mon.

I'm so glad that mysterious motivation wave hit me on Thursday. It just

seems like I can try and try but until some weird force comes along I can't

make myself eat healthy. Sad that I don't feel like I have the control

inside me but I've failed so many times when I just couldn't find the

motivation. I know it's only been 4 days but usually I can't even stay on

plan through 1 day. I've tracked my weight off and on since Aug. 2002 in

Excel. Depressing to look back on all that failure. In 2002 I hit a low of

234. In 2003 a low of 231. 2004 brought a low of 247. 2005 started at

273. Ugh. Can you say yo yo? 2005 is my year though. If I work hard

I can start 2006 at 199. We can do this! Sue, how many times have you

heard me say that? How do I keep from screwing up this time? At least

I'm using a different plan this time so I'm not doing the same thing I

failed at before.

Yes, I'm rambling. I need to go fold clothes. Vonn slept until 9:15. She

was tired from the gymnastics overnight on Sat. night. My mom will bring

Lynn home this afternoon. Vonn has gymnastics at 3:30 and Lynn has guitar

at 7. At least we don't have to fit Lynn's homework into the schedule since

today is a holiday.

Ok, off to watch the View and fold clothes. I think I'll eat the exact same

things today that I did yesterday. I know that's not a good idea over time

because boredom will set in but it was yummy and satisfying yesterday so why

mess with a good thing. I need to cook something nice so he

doesn't get annoyed. Either that or I need to swat him over the nose with a

rolled up newspaper.

Ann

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maryannanderic wrote:

>> Sue, how many times have you heard me say that?

>

Almost as many times as *I* have! :-[

>> How do I keep from screwing up this time?

>

You've got to get your immediate family behind you. Let them know that

the only snacks you're going to buy form now on are healthy ones, that

all of you will eat the same foods. You're the type that will eat the

candy if you know it's in your house, so keep it out of the house. The

only way to make this stick is to treat it as a lifestyle change, not a

temporary diet, and that's not going to happen if you're buying and

cooking different meals & snacks for each member of the family. If your

hubby wants junk, let him eat it in work or keep it in the car, not in

your kitchen where you'll see it all day long.

>> At least

>I'm using a different plan this time so I'm not doing the same thing I

>failed at before.

>

>

>

You don't want to know how many different diet plans I've attempted in

my life. Yet the one I keep wandering back to time and again the past 10

years is the most restrictive one, the McDougall plan.

But sometimes I wish I still had that prescription for amphetamines!

Imagine how much housework I could get done if I still had those babies!

:-D

>I need to cook something nice so he

>doesn't get annoyed.

>

Well, I just spent a month cooking Ed's favorite meals, and he knows

we've got to go back to all veggie meals or else the 2 of us will burst!

At least during last night's chicken meal he said he wouldn't mind if

we had all the foods currently on the table minus the chicken, that's

how tasty and filling everything else was. In fact, the only thing we

had leftovers of were the chicken breasts. He does still get to keep his

goodies, since he eats stuff I never go near, like Spicy Doritos and

Entenmann's pop 'em's. One's too salty and the other is so sweet my

teeth would explode.

Sue in NJ

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From: " Sue in NJ " <susang@...>

> Almost as many times as *I* have! :-[

Ugh. Well, at least we haven't given up completely.

> You've got to get your immediate family behind you. Let them know that

> the only snacks you're going to buy form now on are healthy ones, that

> all of you will eat the same foods.

I'm good about snacks that we have on hand. Right now we have gold fish,

pretzels, Combos, and Pringles. I usually wouldn't have the Combos or

Pringles on hand but I bought them before the miraculous change in my eating

that occured 4 days ago. I haven't eaten any Pringles and the rest will

go in the kids' lunches this week. I'll give Lynn the rest of the Combos.

The only time really sabotages my eating by bringing home unhealthy

stuff is when he brings leftovers home from a camp out. I'll talk to him

about that before the next camp out which will be in March.

>You're the type that will eat the

> candy if you know it's in your house, so keep it out of the house.

Yes, we were inundated with candy from Halloween and Christmas. Usually I

keep Dum Dums and other unappealing stuff in the house for the kids.

> only way to make this stick is to treat it as a lifestyle change, not a

> temporary diet, and that's not going to happen if you're buying and

> cooking different meals & snacks for each member of the family.

Well, the kids don't eat exactly what and I do because we like things

pretty spicy. On Sat. evening and I had stirfry and the kids had rice,

veggies and shrimp separately. Of course they acted like I was trying to

kill them by giving them shrimp that wasn't fried. Sheesh. Kids can be

sooo annoying.

In the past and I have pretty much eaten the same thing but slightly

modified like his over rice and mine over broccoli or his with lots of

noodles, mine with a few, etc. Right now I want simplicity so I'm happy

eating egg rolls, pockets, etc. I'll have to work on calorie counts for our

favorite recipes but right now that is too much work. After my test I'll be

able to focus on that more. Just the thought of adding up all the

nutritional info for 10 different ingredients and dividing it out by the

number of servings is too much to deal with. It would be nice to do that

and have those recipes entered into Fit Day as custom items since we tend to

repeat our favorite dishes every couple of weeks.

>If your

> hubby wants junk, let him eat it in work or keep it in the car, not in

> your kitchen where you'll see it all day long.

I feel like you're mixing me up with someone else. I have trained not

to expect junk food at home.

> my life. Yet the one I keep wandering back to time and again the past 10

> years is the most restrictive one, the McDougall plan.

But it's not a lifestyle you can maintain for the long term. You are a

carnivore at heart.

>

> But sometimes I wish I still had that prescription for amphetamines!

> Imagine how much housework I could get done if I still had those babies!

Amen to that. I wish that I could still take Ephedra. I loved that stuff.

Who cares if it gave me the jitters as long as it reduced my appetite. I'd

prefer to avoid a stroke though so I'm scared to take it now.

> Well, I just spent a month cooking Ed's favorite meals, and he knows

> we've got to go back to all veggie meals or else the 2 of us will burst!

> At least during last night's chicken meal he said he wouldn't mind if

> we had all the foods currently on the table minus the chicken,

expects an animal on the table most nights. He hasn't been trained by

a McDougall wife like Ed has.

Gotta make lunch. Vonn and I are hungry. My mom will be bringing Lynn home

soon then I need to get the kids to pick up their stuff. I bought Lynn nice

tennis shoes for school and I haven't seen them for 2 weeks. Grrr.... she

has to find those things.

I'm embarrassed to say that I need to take down the Christmas tree. I took

a last batch of photos of the girls in front of it which was my excuse for

not taking it down yet. Now I have no excuse.

I'll post a pic of the girls on the photo section.

Ann

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> Ugh. Well, at least we haven't given up completely.

Nope. Where there's life, there's hope! As

mentioned, the veggie meals are going to start again, and Saturday we

hit a mall and I saw the & The Silver Foxes DVD is out and I picked it

up. Now I don't have to worry about wearing out the tape again.

Tomorrow after the laundromat I'll pop it in and see how far I can get

before some appendage threatens to drop off.

> Of course they acted like I was trying to

kill them by giving them shrimp that wasn't fried. Sheesh. Kids can be

sooo annoying.

Which is why I call Henry the pickiest eater in

the world. At least at 21 he makes most of his own meals now because he

refuses to eat what I cook.

> Just the thought of adding up all the

nutritional info for 10 different ingredients and dividing it out by the

number of servings is too much to deal with. It would be nice to do that

and have those recipes entered into Fit Day as custom items since we tend to

repeat our favorite dishes every couple of weeks.

But it would be a full time job to do it. Does it

*save* the info for future use, or would you have to re-enter it each

time? If so, it may be worth the $20 investment in Mastercook (Less if

you get one of the older versions).

>I feel like you're mixing me up with someone else. I have trained not

to expect junk food at home.

Probably a's hubby.

>But it's not a lifestyle you can maintain for the long term. You are a

carnivore at heart.

Yeah, but this ticker isn't getting any younger, and I'll probably be

forced to make the change, like it or not, if I want good health into

my old age. What a choice - eat what I don't like all that much and

live a longer life (at least it'll *feel* longer), or eat what I

*like* and live maybe a few less years.

>Amen to that. I wish that I could still take Ephedra. I loved that stuff.

Who cares if it gave me the jitters as long as it reduced my appetite. I'd

prefer to avoid a stroke though so I'm scared to take it now.

I saw a box of Celestial Seasonings tea the other day called something

like Dieter's Tea and took a look at it. I forget the exact

ingredients, but it did have a warning label on it that people with any

kind of heart condition, high blood pressure, diabetes, among other

diseases, should definitely not drink it. I get all jittery now if I

have some real coffee or tea instead of my usual decaf, so imagine how

I would be with *this* stuff!

> expects an animal on the table most nights. He hasn't been trained by

a McDougall wife like Ed has.

We've been eating this way off and on since the

mid-80's, and he still looks for that hunk of meat now and then. As I

said many times before, I doubt I will ever get 100% veg again, but as

long as the majority of my meals are it should help.

>Gotta make lunch. Vonn and I are hungry.

I have some leftover chicken with my name on it waiting for me, too.

>I'm embarrassed to say that I need to take down the Christmas tree.

A load of houses here still have all their

outdoor decorations up, and Ed said the other day that most of them

that he passes on the way home from work are still lit. Not unusual for

this city.

Oh, well. 2pm so I better grab lunch before it's dinner time.

Sue in NJ

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I had the daughter at the dr. today because she's experiencing side effects from the thyroid meds and she mentioned she fluctuates 10 pounds a week - he told her it was water weight. ok I buy that for 1 week but not 4.

.... I weighed myself again this morning and I'm afraid to even think that I lost as much as it said I know its all water weight being the first week and all but I'm afraid that tomorrow I'll weigh again and it will show a gain and that I didnt really lose that much..

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mine came down yesterday!!! was feeling bad - then found out mom and sis were taking thiers down too LOL

I'm embarrassed to say that I need to take down the Christmas tree. I tooka last batch of photos of the girls in front of it which was my excuse fornot taking it down yet. Now I have no excuse. :)I'll post a pic of the girls on the photo section. Ann

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> They actually have some veggies in the refrigerated machine but looks like

broccoli or cauliflower and I dont like those so I pass..

That's nice that they have some healthy stuff in there.

> He has always isolated me from everyone. Everytime I make a new friend or

talk to other people he makes little comments and it just makes me not even

want to bother with anyone.. Then.. gets mad saying why dont I try to make

friends and talk to people..

He sounds very insecure. That's what my mom would say. I'd say he sounds

like a total jerk. Men can be soooo annoying!

> Scale said I was down to 315.5 thats between a 7 and 10lb loss.

Wow! That's great!

>

> Thats great are you kidding. This is a real loss THIS WEEK

Well, I'm not complaining about 5 pounds but it's hard to get excited about

it when I was 268 week before last without even trying. That's what I

meant.

Ann

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>. I really think this is it for me tho.. I mean.. Everything I am doing

exercising eating less is becoming more routine for me and its getting

easier everyday.. I can actually see myself sticking with it this time.

Good. In the end we have to do this for ourselves and not let anyone stand

in the way be it co-workers, husbands or even our kids.

Ann

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Faye remember Rome was not built in a day and you will not get a routine going in a day either. Taking notes of highs and lows will teach you to know your body and what works for you. When you have these highs do you take notes and see if something you are eating before that could be causing a binge. Example I know if I have cereal for breakfast I usually need a mid morning snack. BUT if I have protein egg omelette, I can usually go without a mid morning snack. Beating the cravings before you give into them is key.

NH... Mom to Abby Liz 10/94 Anne 7/99

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> Faye remember Rome was not built in a day and you will not get a

routine

> going in a day either.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are kind, : ) Was Rome built in 58

years?!!!!!

but I know it's true. It doesn't matter how many times I " start

over " as long as I keep trying!

All of the attempts, all of the reading I have done, all the

programs I have tried, all the posts I have read and received, all

of it helps!!!

They are all building blocks.

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> Example I know if I have cereal for breakfast I usually need a

mid morning

> snack. BUT if I have protein egg omelette, I can usually go

without a mid

> morning snack. Beating the cravings before you give into them is

key.

Funny you should mention cereal, . I start most mornings

with cereal ( and other things too!!). But in general, I have

learned from other groups/ food plans, when the cravings

come, " LOOK to your last meal or snack " The answer is probably there

as to what caused cravings. It often, for me, can be sugar

substitute, caffeine or simple, " bad " carbs.

Thanks for the reminder.

Faye

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>You go girl!!!> Good Morning all and Happy Tuesday!!!> > I am writing this brief note before I go out for my walk. It's 6:30 > a.m. and I just weighed myself. Is it really possible to lose 6.5 > pounds in one day????? Yes it is, cuz I just did!!!> > I started with "ineffective" hCG shots on Saturday which was the 1st > day of my gorge. Gained 6 lbs over my 2 gorge days and started Monday, > my 1st "effective" day at 233 lbs. This morning I am 226.5!!! I had > to get on and off the scale 3 times just to make sure it was > registering correctly!!! I am totally psyched!!!!! > > You all have a GREAT day filled with lots of smiles and positive happy > thoughts!!! I know I will.> > Debbie>

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I was just wondering, what kind of foods did u eat during the gorge stage and how many times a day? tasha043 <tasha043@...> wrote: >You go girl!!!> Good Morning all and Happy Tuesday!!!> > I am writing this brief note before I go out for my walk. It's 6:30 > a.m. and I just weighed myself. Is it really

possible to lose 6.5 > pounds in one day????? Yes it is, cuz I just did!!!> > I started with "ineffective" hCG shots on Saturday which was the 1st > day of my gorge. Gained 6 lbs over my 2 gorge days and started Monday, > my 1st "effective" day at 233 lbs. This morning I am 226.5!!! I had > to get on and off the scale 3 times just to make sure it was > registering correctly!!! I am totally psyched!!!!! > > You all have a GREAT day filled with lots of smiles and positive happy > thoughts!!! I know I will.> > Debbie>

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Kathy... On Saturday a.m. I went to Perkins and had country fried steak and eggs with hash browns and a mammoth muffin. For lunch I ate a double cheeseburger and fries from Mcs and for dinner, we went to the Cheesecake Factory where I consumed shrimp scampi w/angel hair pasta. I was too full to eat my cheesecake, so I saved that for Sunday morning's breakfast! After I ate the cheesecake on Sunday a.m., we went to a bagel shop and had bacon, egg and cheese on a bagel. For lunch I ate, 1/2 of a foot long Italian sub, a piece of cake and some olives. For dinner, more olives, the other half of the sub and a pint of DOVE ice cream. To be honest with you, there were a couple of times I was hungry on Sunday. I don't think you should ever let yourself get hungry on your gorge days. The more you can consume, the better off you'll be once you start your 500 calorie

days. I hope this information was helpful to you! Debbie Kathy <prsweetnez@...> wrote: I was just wondering, what kind of foods did u eat during the gorge stage and how many times a day? tasha043 <tasha043 > wrote: >You go girl!!!> Good Morning all and Happy Tuesday!!!> > I am writing this brief note before I go out for my walk. It's 6:30 > a.m. and I just weighed myself. Is it really possible to lose 6.5 > pounds in one day????? Yes it is, cuz I just did!!!> > I started with "ineffective" hCG shots on Saturday which was the 1st > day of my gorge. Gained 6 lbs over my 2 gorge days and started Monday, > my 1st "effective" day at 233 lbs. This morning I am 226.5!!! I had > to get on and off the scale 3 times just to make sure it was > registering correctly!!! I am totally psyched!!!!! > > You all have a GREAT day filled with lots of smiles and positive happy > thoughts!!! I know I will.> >

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>

> Good Morning all and Happy Tuesday!!!

>

> I am writing this brief note before I go out for my walk. It's 6:30

> a.m. and I just weighed myself. Is it really possible to lose 6.5

> pounds in one day????? Yes it is, cuz I just did!!!

>

> I started with " ineffective " hCG shots on Saturday which was the 1st

> day of my gorge. Gained 6 lbs over my 2 gorge days and started

Monday,

> my 1st " effective " day at 233 lbs. This morning I am 226.5!!! I had

> to get on and off the scale 3 times just to make sure it was

> registering correctly!!! I am totally psyched!!!!!

>

> You all have a GREAT day filled with lots of smiles and positive happy

> thoughts!!! I know I will.

>

> Debbie

>

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Currently studying for Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology day 4

I am on day 4 of the south beach diet and I think I am doing really good. I am still craving sweets a bit though. During phase one you are supposed to be detoxing your body and getting rid of the cravings for sweets, and carbs. So far I still want sweets. Ugh, but it isn't too bad. I did go ahead and weigh this morning even though it hasn't been a week yet , and I was down 4.6 pounds. I was so happy to see that number. I am motivated to try even harder now, only with the sb diet it isn't really like trying just eating *other* things. I haven't been hungry at all except on the first day. I have also been trying hard to get the water in, but I haven't been very successful. So there you have it. That is my update.

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Hello,

It's day for on LDN 1.5mg. I was so bad on day 1, a touch better day 2 and 3,

and today is day 4, maybe a bit better? I don't know. I have been very tired,

having some anxiety at times/heart palpitations, some shortness of breath when

that happens, and an almost headache - more like a hot head/pressure slight ache

feeling. Today is my first full day at work 9-5. I just hope I can stay awake

through it! I have been sleeping a lot the last few days. Just waiting to get

used to this and feel better!