Jump to content
RemedySpot.com

Re: RT3

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Please allow me to tune up your most informative post: the diagnosis of

Adrenal Fatigue is best made through recognition of symptoms. IOW, it's a

clinical call. IF one has the symptoms, and IF hydrocortisone treats same,

diagnosis is confirmed.

Those of us who work in this field recognize cortisol can be high during AF

( " burn out " phase-like having to run full speed too long), so it surely can

be " normal " range as well.

Compare to the thyroid situation, where the person can be sick as heck, but

totally " normal " range labs.

Be well!

Regards,

Crisler, DO

Anti-Aging Medicine

The information contained in this message is intended only for the personal

and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above, and is protected by

state and federal law. If the reader of this message is not the intended

recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the

intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this

document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or

copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this

communication in error, please notify us immediately, and delete the

original message. We would certainly do the same for you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

So Dr. , you do not advise using cytomel to treat elevated rt3? My adrenal

functions were low when tested about 2 months ago. It was suggested I use an

herbal prep. from Futer Formulations to support them. I have problems with

tendonitis and I inquired about HC. Would HC improve the adrenal functions and

help the tendonitis at the same time?

Just 1 more thing. I have been on 10gr compounded T for 2 wks (increased from 5

gm). My T dropped to 466 and E2 dropped to 8. What could have caused this?

Thanks very much

>

> Yes, it's a simple logical progression if one is suffering AF they feel like

> crap. " Feeling like crap " is stressful, so rT3 is elevated.

>

>

>

> I n most cases, I use a desiccated complete thyroid product first, rather

> than T3 only. Often times this does the trick, as the free T3 thus added is

> sufficient, all the while offering a more normal hormonal milieu of T4 (and

> others), while enzyme D1 picks up, thus shunting T4 to T3. But sometimes we

> need a bit of T3 (Cytomel) on top of that, to get the motor running. But

> it's the activity of D1 that is exactly the problem, so we do need to push

> T4 through it in order to affect a cure. This is a failing of T3 only-but

> sometimes you do need T3 as a " primer " .

>

>

>

> When DHEA is supplemented D1 picks up, BTW.

>

>

>

> Be well!

>

> Regards,

>

>

> Crisler, DO

>

> Anti-Aging Medicine

>

> The information contained in this message is intended only for the personal

> and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above, and is protected by

> state and federal law. If the reader of this message is not the intended

> recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the

> intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this

> document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or

> copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this

> communication in error, please notify us immediately, and delete the

> original message. We would certainly do the same for you.

>

> From: [mailto: ]

> On Behalf Of mbmom123

> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:34 AM

>

> Subject: Re: RT3

>

>

>

>

>

> Jim, yes this hormone stuff can be pretty complex..but, you will soon be an

> expert on yours. Know your doc is testing all this stuff, because if you

> don't get adrenals and thyroid handled, everything else a waste of

> time..hormones change hourly in those of us w/multiple challenges (just be

> grateful you don't have menopause to add to the lot-- LOL!)

>

> Phil may have pointed you here for the nuts and bolts of

> thyroid/adrenals/RT3:

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/long-and-pathetic/

>

> and adrenal basics:

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/

>

> and RT3:

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/11/18/reverse-t3/

>

> Adrenal function best done by 24 hr saliva test--have you done that?

> You need to be off supplements (what are you taking by the way?) for 2 weeks

> to do the test in order to get a handle on whether yours is low or high

> (same symptom set)or normal...adrenals and their hormones pretty important

> in sugar regulation and by proxy, water / salt balance in the body..some

> very important hormones being produced in adrenals, including your s*x

> hormones, so getting to the right core issue is key..yes, cortisol issues do

> affect production of RT3..

>

> El

>

>

>

> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release Date: 12/02/09

> 19:43:00

>

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Most likely due to what every reason, When starting trt it can reveal hidden

issues most likely adrenal or thyroid which cause the gel not to be absorbed

properly due to the thickness of the skin. Now what needs to be assessed is

that treating the underlying issue or jumping right to shots needs to be further

looked at. If one jumps to shots right away and the underlying issue is

something elese. The shots would solve the problem, but since we know its

adrenal issues then this also has to be addressed as well.

>

> Jim, yes this hormone stuff can be pretty complex..but, you will soon be an

expert on yours. Know your doc is testing all this stuff, because if you don't

get adrenals and thyroid handled, everything else a waste of time..hormones

change hourly in those of us w/multiple challenges (just be grateful you don't

have menopause to add to the lot-- LOL!)

>

> Phil may have pointed you here for the nuts and bolts of thyroid/adrenals/RT3:

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/long-and-pathetic/

>

> and adrenal basics:

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/

>

> and RT3:

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/11/18/reverse-t3/

>

> Adrenal function best done by 24 hr saliva test--have you done that?

> You need to be off supplements (what are you taking by the way?) for 2 weeks

to do the test in order to get a handle on whether yours is low or high (same

symptom set)or normal...adrenals and their hormones pretty important in sugar

regulation and by proxy, water / salt balance in the body..some very important

hormones being produced in adrenals, including your s*x hormones, so getting to

the right core issue is key..yes, cortisol issues do affect production of RT3..

>

> El

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You also have low e2 as well which could be contributing to the joint issues

which could be mimicing other issues such as low adrenals.

So giving HC if the issue was really low e2 may be be a bridge..

Low e2 can cause insulin dysregulation as well affecting you blood sugar issues.

> >

> > Yes, it's a simple logical progression if one is suffering AF they feel like

> > crap. " Feeling like crap " is stressful, so rT3 is elevated.

> >

> >

> >

> > I n most cases, I use a desiccated complete thyroid product first, rather

> > than T3 only. Often times this does the trick, as the free T3 thus added is

> > sufficient, all the while offering a more normal hormonal milieu of T4 (and

> > others), while enzyme D1 picks up, thus shunting T4 to T3. But sometimes we

> > need a bit of T3 (Cytomel) on top of that, to get the motor running. But

> > it's the activity of D1 that is exactly the problem, so we do need to push

> > T4 through it in order to affect a cure. This is a failing of T3 only-but

> > sometimes you do need T3 as a " primer " .

> >

> >

> >

> > When DHEA is supplemented D1 picks up, BTW.

> >

> >

> >

> > Be well!

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> >

> > Crisler, DO

> >

> > Anti-Aging Medicine

> >

> > The information contained in this message is intended only for the personal

> > and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above, and is protected by

> > state and federal law. If the reader of this message is not the intended

> > recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the

> > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this

> > document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or

> > copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this

> > communication in error, please notify us immediately, and delete the

> > original message. We would certainly do the same for you.

> >

> > From: [mailto: ]

> > On Behalf Of mbmom123

> > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:34 AM

> >

> > Subject: Re: RT3

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Jim, yes this hormone stuff can be pretty complex..but, you will soon be an

> > expert on yours. Know your doc is testing all this stuff, because if you

> > don't get adrenals and thyroid handled, everything else a waste of

> > time..hormones change hourly in those of us w/multiple challenges (just be

> > grateful you don't have menopause to add to the lot-- LOL!)

> >

> > Phil may have pointed you here for the nuts and bolts of

> > thyroid/adrenals/RT3:

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/long-and-pathetic/

> >

> > and adrenal basics:

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/

> >

> > and RT3:

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/11/18/reverse-t3/

> >

> > Adrenal function best done by 24 hr saliva test--have you done that?

> > You need to be off supplements (what are you taking by the way?) for 2 weeks

> > to do the test in order to get a handle on whether yours is low or high

> > (same symptom set)or normal...adrenals and their hormones pretty important

> > in sugar regulation and by proxy, water / salt balance in the body..some

> > very important hormones being produced in adrenals, including your s*x

> > hormones, so getting to the right core issue is key..yes, cortisol issues do

> > affect production of RT3..

> >

> > El

> >

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release Date: 12/02/09

> > 19:43:00

> >

> >

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

How can the E2 be raised. It seems to be going the other way. The compunded

cream doesn't work. Would starting with a higher dose of injected T and hcg,

then working backwards with dose be a logical approach? Sometimes a bigger

hammer is needed.

> > >

> > > Yes, it's a simple logical progression if one is suffering AF they feel

like

> > > crap. " Feeling like crap " is stressful, so rT3 is elevated.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I n most cases, I use a desiccated complete thyroid product first, rather

> > > than T3 only. Often times this does the trick, as the free T3 thus added

is

> > > sufficient, all the while offering a more normal hormonal milieu of T4

(and

> > > others), while enzyme D1 picks up, thus shunting T4 to T3. But sometimes

we

> > > need a bit of T3 (Cytomel) on top of that, to get the motor running. But

> > > it's the activity of D1 that is exactly the problem, so we do need to push

> > > T4 through it in order to affect a cure. This is a failing of T3 only-but

> > > sometimes you do need T3 as a " primer " .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > When DHEA is supplemented D1 picks up, BTW.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Be well!

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > >

> > > Crisler, DO

> > >

> > > Anti-Aging Medicine

> > >

> > > The information contained in this message is intended only for the

personal

> > > and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above, and is protected by

> > > state and federal law. If the reader of this message is not the intended

> > > recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the

> > > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this

> > > document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or

> > > copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this

> > > communication in error, please notify us immediately, and delete the

> > > original message. We would certainly do the same for you.

> > >

> > > From: [mailto: ]

> > > On Behalf Of mbmom123

> > > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:34 AM

> > >

> > > Subject: Re: RT3

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jim, yes this hormone stuff can be pretty complex..but, you will soon be

an

> > > expert on yours. Know your doc is testing all this stuff, because if you

> > > don't get adrenals and thyroid handled, everything else a waste of

> > > time..hormones change hourly in those of us w/multiple challenges (just be

> > > grateful you don't have menopause to add to the lot-- LOL!)

> > >

> > > Phil may have pointed you here for the nuts and bolts of

> > > thyroid/adrenals/RT3:

> > >

> > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/long-and-pathetic/

> > >

> > > and adrenal basics:

> > >

> > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/

> > >

> > > and RT3:

> > >

> > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/11/18/reverse-t3/

> > >

> > > Adrenal function best done by 24 hr saliva test--have you done that?

> > > You need to be off supplements (what are you taking by the way?) for 2

weeks

> > > to do the test in order to get a handle on whether yours is low or high

> > > (same symptom set)or normal...adrenals and their hormones pretty important

> > > in sugar regulation and by proxy, water / salt balance in the body..some

> > > very important hormones being produced in adrenals, including your s*x

> > > hormones, so getting to the right core issue is key..yes, cortisol issues

do

> > > affect production of RT3..

> > >

> > > El

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release Date: 12/02/09

> > > 19:43:00

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 year later...

RT3 is a result of:

Toxic Liver

High Cortisol

Stress

Poor Diet

Iodine is not responsible for any of these.

RT3

HiCan anyone tell me what, if any, effect iodine has on RT3? I very well may have an issue with this, although I haven't tested. I have many predisposing factors.Testing for this in Canada is difficult.ThanksJaye

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If you are thinking that taking iodine will make your T4 go up and make you produce RT3, take a T3 only med. If it is correctly dosed this will stop the TSH secretion and consequently T4 production. Once you have done this, no matter how much iodine you take your T4 will be very, very low and this will considerably limit the amount of RT3 you can make. I have done this taking 50 mg/day of iodine and my FT4 was right down the bottom of the scale (approx. 2 on a range of 12 to 24).

I am hoping that one day I will be able to convert T4 to T3 correctly since my FT4 was always within range with or without a T4 med until I started taking T3. Even with Hashi antibodies it seems to work OK. It was just the conversion to T3 that was the problem.

MacGilchrist

From: "jprocure@..." <jprocure@...>iodine Sent: Wed, 2 February, 2011 19:45:48Subject: RT3

HiCan anyone tell me what, if any, effect iodine has on RT3? I very well may have an issue with this, although I haven't tested. I have many predisposing factors.Testing for this in Canada is difficult.ThanksJaye

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...