Alcohol

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My sister n law had her thyroid taken out, cause she was having problems and

make her go crazy when she was young and my husband and family didn't know what

is going on. Saying she was having panic attack. Find out it was thyroid. Even

my mom had that problems when she was teenager. Mom keep tellin me have it

check. Sometime I feel like my skin crawling. They said that Thyroid would do

that. It realy depends on peoples. I can't wait Wednesday, it had been long 4

wks to wait for that apptment.

Re: Re: Alcohol

Hi Colleen,

Sorry, didnt realise your medical history - thought you had anxiety.

I wonder if hyoglycemia or thyroid problems might be causing my anxiety - a

refelexologist said I had signs of a thyroid condition. I am seeing a new doctor

in a few weeks and will ask for tests although many doctors seem to be dubious

about these conditions.

I have general " free floating " anxiety which I think was triggered by my

asthma. My health is pretty good now but I cant stop being anxious about my

breathing - very much a psychological problem although lexapro has helped a lot.

As you say depression generally has a much more physical basis - lexapro

certainly seems to be one of the best meds around for treating it and I am glad

you have had good results.

Again apologies for jumping to conclusions - we have enough to cope with

dealing with the general ignorance of people about our conditions.

Mike

MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote:

I don't have anxiety, although I did when I was 23. I had terrible panic

attacks. I learned to float through them. I also found out I had hypoglycemia,

so I changed my diet and they went away. They found that hypoglycemia can be a

forerunner of diabetes. I'm now prediabetic.

I started Lexapro for two reasons. First, I couldn't stop crying. I had a

nasty supervisor at the time, and my 18 year old son kept upsetting me to no

end. I was also about to start on treatment for hepatitis C. Thus the Lexapro,

which made me feel much better. I'm still on it at 10 mg per day, which is the

only dose I've ever taken since I've been on it.

Any chronic illness, especially if it involves pain, can cause depression.

Also, the combination of interferon and ribavirin (HCV treatment) can cause

severe depression.

Colleen

mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote:

Hi Colleen - are you talking about hep c or anxiety or depression?

Lex certainly helped me - got me to a point where I am able to start working

on my anxiety using relaxation, self hypnosis, pilates, and plenty of exercise -

I am planning to start yoga classes next !!

Anxiety can be a viscious circle - the unpleasant symptoms we experience lead

to us becoming even more anxious - our sub-conscious gets programmed to fear

things our conscious mind knows are not a threat.

I just dont believe there is a magic pill yet - maybe one day ........... my

father was on Proxac for a while - the drugs companies said it was the answer -

I am not going to even tell you the effect it had on him - it was very

scary..........

MsTigerHawk wrote:

Well, I have it and they put me on Lexapro. Between 4 and 6 million Americans

have it. Many of them don't even know it.

Colleen

mike jones wrote:

hepatitis c ???????????? whats that got to do with anything lol

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And like my neulogoy dr told me that we are going to find out why I am having

anxiety. Other week, I been light headed and fainted too, find out my potassium

was low, cause taking the blood pressure. I know some medcine will take the

potassium away so watch for that also.. That is not fun feeling.. weak, no

energy, dizzy and fainted..

Re: Re: Alcohol

Hi Colleen,

Sorry, didnt realise your medical history - thought you had anxiety.

I wonder if hyoglycemia or thyroid problems might be causing my anxiety - a

refelexologist said I had signs of a thyroid condition. I am seeing a new doctor

in a few weeks and will ask for tests although many doctors seem to be dubious

about these conditions.

I have general " free floating " anxiety which I think was triggered by my

asthma. My health is pretty good now but I cant stop being anxious about my

breathing - very much a psychological problem although lexapro has helped a lot.

As you say depression generally has a much more physical basis - lexapro

certainly seems to be one of the best meds around for treating it and I am glad

you have had good results.

Again apologies for jumping to conclusions - we have enough to cope with

dealing with the general ignorance of people about our conditions.

Mike

MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote:

I don't have anxiety, although I did when I was 23. I had terrible panic

attacks. I learned to float through them. I also found out I had hypoglycemia,

so I changed my diet and they went away. They found that hypoglycemia can be a

forerunner of diabetes. I'm now prediabetic.

I started Lexapro for two reasons. First, I couldn't stop crying. I had a

nasty supervisor at the time, and my 18 year old son kept upsetting me to no

end. I was also about to start on treatment for hepatitis C. Thus the Lexapro,

which made me feel much better. I'm still on it at 10 mg per day, which is the

only dose I've ever taken since I've been on it.

Any chronic illness, especially if it involves pain, can cause depression.

Also, the combination of interferon and ribavirin (HCV treatment) can cause

severe depression.

Colleen

mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote:

Hi Colleen - are you talking about hep c or anxiety or depression?

Lex certainly helped me - got me to a point where I am able to start working

on my anxiety using relaxation, self hypnosis, pilates, and plenty of exercise -

I am planning to start yoga classes next !!

Anxiety can be a viscious circle - the unpleasant symptoms we experience lead

to us becoming even more anxious - our sub-conscious gets programmed to fear

things our conscious mind knows are not a threat.

I just dont believe there is a magic pill yet - maybe one day ........... my

father was on Proxac for a while - the drugs companies said it was the answer -

I am not going to even tell you the effect it had on him - it was very

scary..........

MsTigerHawk wrote:

Well, I have it and they put me on Lexapro. Between 4 and 6 million Americans

have it. Many of them don't even know it.

Colleen

mike jones wrote:

hepatitis c ???????????? whats that got to do with anything lol

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,

I’ve always heard it’s a good idea to drink water at the same

time as drinking wine. I assume that may be because alcohol supposedly dries the

body (the brain?) out. Maybe that could help prevent hangovers from beer, too?

I’ve never heard of drinking water with beer, but who knows? Good luck

Karni

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I have found, and my onc confirmed, that CLL effects

us in many ways even though we may show no signs of it

in our blood. I would trust your experience and take

it as a warning or blessing. Carolyn

--- allison evans <alliwile@...> wrote:

> hi everyone this might be a silly question but has

> anyone ever had a horrendous hangover from just

> drinking a few beers. I am nil stage at the moment

> with no treatment, i went to a party at the weekend

> and only had a couple of drinks but felt as if i

> were drunk very quickly and the next day was

> suffering really badly, do you think this is

> anything to do with the cll or maybe i just cant

> handle my drink anymore i am 38 yrs old.

>

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'Tis so. It's not that alcohol itself that feeds candida but the

sugars mixed with it (sometimes); alcohol is an irritant that has

been identified in recent research as (in binge drinking)

contributing to inflammatory bowel disease.

Duncan

>

> Seriously? Then life isn't over as I know it! lol

>

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> Re: prebiotics

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> A light beer shouldn't really be a problem anyway, should it? 3g of

> carbs per in a miller lite. Duncan makes sense about alcohol being a

> waste product of candida anyway so should it really make much of a

diff?

>

> greg

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It sounds funny!! I do believe you reached some borrelia and poisoned

them!

Yes, I'm a believer on rubbing to fight borrelia and other pathogens.

Try other killer oils or cleansing oils, they do wonders.

One woman, a Chinese naturopath, practically cured her lyme only with

rubbing. Or basically with rubbing, her name is Farah (if you google

her you can find her site, if I'm not mistaken, google yinessences

and farah you may find her).

I used her mix of oils to rub here and there (but I never ingested

these, far toooooo strong), and I swear they helped me tons. She was

kind to share her recipy in lymenet when she was still a frequent

visitor there. So you could also do the mix by yourself.

Now I use the rubbing technicque even for colds, I rub oils like

eucaliptus or other oils on the throat directly on the spot of

problem and man, these viruses do get hit. I rub oils on my daughter

too.

Another wonder thing is rubbing Cilantro tinctures directly on the

skin, like on the liver for example. It gives immediate results, it's

like it has a short cut and acts almost immediately on the area.

Cilantro rubbing works wonderfully well on muscle pains due to

borrelia too.

Also for tummy aches on children, it's a method commonly done here in

Switzerland (rubbing almond oil with a bit of cilantro, fennel and

other digestive oils do give fast relieve to babies). I use these

baby oils myself after getting indigestion.

the skin is very receptive to anything you rub on.

Selma

> I believe I was bit on the head near my right ear because whenever

I feel the worst, that

> area always is bothering me a lot and I am very off balance.

>

> I purchased a bottle of Everclear to make tinctures but decided to

apply it to the affected

> area. I seems to be working, at least somewhat. Maybe I'm getting

the spirochetes drunk

> and they can't function as well.

>

> Sheryl

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheryl:

I have similar symptoms to you, right side of head/ear area and lots of

dizzyness. Can you tell me where you get the everclear and I will order

some.

Thanks,

Donna

[Guest guest]

That was very helpful, especially since I was about to order some herbs and she

gives

some specific information about what herbs to use with which symptoms. I'll

post the

site where I found her information shortly.

>

> It sounds funny!! I do believe you reached some borrelia and poisoned

> them!

>

> Yes, I'm a believer on rubbing to fight borrelia and other pathogens.

> Try other killer oils or cleansing oils, they do wonders.

>

> One woman, a Chinese naturopath, practically cured her lyme only with

> rubbing. Or basically with rubbing, her name is Farah (if you google

> her you can find her site, if I'm not mistaken, google yinessences

> and farah you may find her).

>

> I used her mix of oils to rub here and there (but I never ingested

> these, far toooooo strong), and I swear they helped me tons. She was

> kind to share her recipy in lymenet when she was still a frequent

> visitor there. So you could also do the mix by yourself.

>

> Now I use the rubbing technicque even for colds, I rub oils like

> eucaliptus or other oils on the throat directly on the spot of

> problem and man, these viruses do get hit. I rub oils on my daughter

> too.

>

> Another wonder thing is rubbing Cilantro tinctures directly on the

> skin, like on the liver for example. It gives immediate results, it's

> like it has a short cut and acts almost immediately on the area.

> Cilantro rubbing works wonderfully well on muscle pains due to

> borrelia too.

>

> Also for tummy aches on children, it's a method commonly done here in

> Switzerland (rubbing almond oil with a bit of cilantro, fennel and

> other digestive oils do give fast relieve to babies). I use these

> baby oils myself after getting indigestion.

>

> the skin is very receptive to anything you rub on.

>

> Selma

>

>

> > I believe I was bit on the head near my right ear because whenever

> I feel the worst, that

> > area always is bothering me a lot and I am very off balance.

> >

> > I purchased a bottle of Everclear to make tinctures but decided to

> apply it to the affected

> > area. I seems to be working, at least somewhat. Maybe I'm getting

> the spirochetes drunk

> > and they can't function as well.

> >

> > Sheryl

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You can only get Everclear in certain states as addressed in a previous email.

I don't

really know that that is the best substance to use, I was just desperate.

However, it does

seem to be working. Spirochetes reproduce every 12 hours so I've been dosing

them

with Everclear twice a day in the hopes that it will mess up their reproductive

cycle

A previous email discussed a woman who used essential oils. I had a hard time

navigating to her catalog and article so here is the info:

http://www.yinessence.com/page/page/229640.htm

http://www.yinessence.com/page/page/231202.htm

Also she has written other articles about lyme but that is the one I liked the

best. You

can go on her site or do a search for more article information.

I plan on ordering the essential oils because it might not be a good idea to

keep up with

the Everclear. I will try rubbing alcohol as well.

Good luck.

>

> Hi Sheryl:

>

> I have similar symptoms to you, right side of head/ear area and lots of

> dizzyness. Can you tell me where you get the everclear and I will order

> some.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

also got to watch which form of everclear your getting, certain states

have the 190 proof like wisconsin, others got like the 90 proof like mn

>

> I believe I was bit on the head near my right ear because whenever

I feel the worst, that

> area always is bothering me a lot and I am very off balance.

>

> I purchased a bottle of Everclear to make tinctures but decided to

apply it to the affected

> area. I seems to be working, at least somewhat. Maybe I'm getting

the spirochetes drunk

> and they can't function as well.

>

> Sheryl

>

[Guest guest]

I just saw this post because I was curious myself.

I was diagnosed in July & really haven't been drinking

much at all lately. I went away 2 weeks ago for my annual

girlfriends weekend at the beach & did my share of drinking -

but believe me in the past, I have had alot more to drink.

I had the 3 worst hangovers I think, of my entire life when

I was there - I am wondering the same thing - does CLL make

the effects of drinking more pronounced?

I didn't feel like I got drunk quicker but the hangovers

were horrific...

I look at it as a warning - & believe me, it will take alot

for me to drink again at this point -

anyone else having the same kind of thing happen?

why can't we get a BREAK somewhere??!!

thanks.

[Guest guest]

susan i got diagnosed last august and i find that if i drink alcohol i too have a massive hangover, one that i wouldnt normally get, i dont know whether it is connected to cll but i certainly am more careful in the amount i drink now.

From: <suzyqmac@...>Subject: Re: alcohol Date: Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 1:30 AMI just saw this post because I was curious myself.

I was diagnosed in July & really haven't been drinking

much at all lately. I went away 2 weeks ago for my annual

girlfriends weekend at the beach & did my share of drinking -

but believe me in the past, I have had alot more to drink.

I had the 3 worst hangovers I think, of my entire life when

I was there - I am wondering the same thing - does CLL make

the effects of drinking more pronounced?

I didn't feel like I got drunk quicker but the hangovers

were horrific...

I look at it as a warning - & believe me, it will take alot

for me to drink again at this point -

anyone else having the same kind of thing happen?

why can't we get a BREAK somewhere??!!

thanks.

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[Guest guest]

Yes I had the same effect with alcohol, so now I just drink a glass of wine with meals when I go out or at home and the rest soft drinks, drinks like cranberry juice looks like wine so no one knows what I am drinking.

regards

Chonette

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If you can tolerate wine - then yes, you can take it

with levothyroxine. Some people find they no longer can - but thank goodness,

I'm not one of them.

Enjoy!

Luv - Sheila

Sorry if this has been asked a million times!! Can someone let me know if you

can drink alcohol when taking levothyroxine. If not that means i could never

have a glass of wine etc again??? Was wondering because it doesn't mention it

on my bottle of medication.

Suzanna

[Guest guest]

lol thanks sheila!! So basically alcohol is ok with levothyroxine? Any alcohol? Doesn't stop it working or hurt the person taking it etc?Suz

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue I have no idea to the answer to this but I have been craving beer since I

was on Levo, but I'm quite sure I probably shouldnt be, I open a beer most

nights when I come in from work, never ever did this before I was diagnosed?

Michele

[Guest guest]

lol Michele. That's sounds like a great thing to crave!!! I sound like an alcoholic but hardly every drink alcohol. Its just that it would be nice to know. Why isn't it mentioned on the leaflet 'IF TAKING THIS MEDICATION DO NOT DRINK VODKA!' type thing. I'm still confused. Can we drink any alcohol in any amount with it? Will it affect the medication working or harm us?Suzanna

Hi Sue I have no idea to the answer to this but I have been craving beer since I was on Levo, but I'm quite sure I probably shouldnt be, I open a beer most nights when I come in from work, never ever did this before I was diagnosed?

Michele

[Guest guest]

As far as I am aware, any alcohol is OK if you can tolerate it

and don't go abuse it. I don't know much about this though and only know

that I use Armour and 25 mcgs thyroxine and I have a drink and have never been

affected in any way that I know of.

Luv - Sheila

lol thanks sheila!! So basically alcohol is ok with levothyroxine? Any

alcohol? Doesn't stop it working or hurt the person taking it etc?

Suz

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Thanks Sheila. I just didn't understand what you mean't by tolerate it.Suzanna

As far as I am aware, any alcohol is OK if you can tolerate it

and don't go abuse it. I don't know much about this though and only know

that I use Armour and 25 mcgs thyroxine and I have a drink and have never been

affected in any way that I know of. Luv - Sheila

[Guest guest]

Suzanna,

You wrote:

> Sorry if this has been asked a million times!! Can someone let me know

> if you can drink alcohol when taking levothyroxine....

Moderation in all things...

If you are hypoT, you may be sensitive to the adverse effects of ethanol. If you

are treated to a euthyroid state, there should not be a problem with a little,

at least not any more than usual. Just treat wine as a food and don't take them

together.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Hi suzanna,

I haven't been able to tolerate alcohol for a couple of years now, my

beloved drop of Rose wine!

One glass early in the evening I can do just, if I sip water after.

Any more leads to sleepless nights with the bad jitters and anxiety.

I get off to sleep, but only for an hour or so and then it's hell.

Also I have palpatations and night sweats with alcohol. It's not

coincidence, because I hardly ever drink now and feel ok at night, as

soon as I have a drop it repeats again.

Not sure if these symptoms are common, but I can't do alcohol. I

think you might know if you have become intolerant, I so hope you

havne't. Ha ha! If not raise a glass for me!!

Night,

x

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> Thanks Sheila. I just didn't understand what you mean't by tolerate

it.

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[Guest guest]

ROFL Thanks !!! I rarely drink but thought I'd ask with xmas coming up. Didn't want my head to explode or anything. lolRe sweats etc. I've read a lot of people feel the cold more but i don't. I am always too hot and walk around in t-shirts a lot. At night i have hot sweats etc and never used to. Had other hormones checked and its nothing to do with menopause etc. I'm 47 so hopefully i have a while longer before that joy is added to the rest. I had the anxiety disorder before i got this condition so have suffered with palpititations etc for years. **Heads off to dust off the egg nog!**

Also I have palpatations and night sweats with alcohol. It's not

coincidence, because I hardly ever drink now and feel ok at night, as

soon as I have a drop it repeats again.

Not sure if these symptoms are common, but I can't do alcohol. I

think you might know if you have become intolerant, I so hope you

havne't. Ha ha! If not raise a glass for me!!

Night,

[Guest guest]

Hello Suzanna,

You definately can take alcohol and red wine is the best thing for

you. I have a glass of red wine every evening either with dinner or

with some cheese a couple of hours before dinner or sometimes with my

9pm snack of either cheese and cracker or a handful of almonds.

My Dr positively recommends red wine a small glass or two a day does

you no harm whatsoever.

However as most of us have to contend with being overweight as well

its a good idea not to overdo the alcohol as it contains a lot of

sugar.

So by all means enjoy your wine........

M

>

> Hi!

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> Sorry if this has been asked a million times!! Can someone let me

know if you can drink alcohol when taking levothyroxine. If not that

means i could never have a glass of wine etc again??? Was wondering

because it doesn't mention it on my bottle of medication.

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