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> I am on my sixth day of the Master Cleanse. I

> have done it before, before the holidays, but was

> b a d during the holidays, and my husband agreed to

> go on it with me. He only lasted 3 days, which I

> consider good, being his first time. I wanted to

> ask, does anyone have vivid dreams during cleansing?

> The first time I tried to post this was at 3:30 am

> last Sun. morning, as my vivid dream woke me up!

> Since then, all week, its really been an experience

> while cleansing, more really weird dreams! Also,

> I have been using a LOT of psyllium lately, and have

> noticed blood on the paper, bright red, enough so

> my friend who owns a health food store said I should

> go to the doctor. I probably will, but I mainly only

> notice this when I am taking the psyllium. Any

> ideas? Thanks,

>

No joke, all I kept dreaming about was eating!!!!!! I used to wake up in a

sweat thinking 'I shouldn't be eating this, I'm supposed to be doing a

cleanse!'. ;-)

>

PS I hope u can sort the other prob out.

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In a message dated 11/20/2002 2:21:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, gayboylaca@... writes:

I only seem to sleep a few hours a night, and I have these vivid dreams.

It is usually a dream about injury and helplessness in getting help.

I dreamt this singer fell off the stage and broke her neck, but we could not get an ambulance to help her.

I was trying to go call one, but reached many roadblocks.

I do not like to remember my dreams. They are always full of conflict and desperation.

Is there anyway that I can sleep without waking up and remembering them?

Well, Effexor tends to delay onset of REM sleep as one of it's many side effects, so if you're only sleeping for short periods, you may dream less on it...doesn't need to be a high dose to get the side effects to kick in.

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I've been on Lexapro 10 since the begining of October. I also have vivid,

sometimes scarey dreams that I remember in the morning. ((But nothing like the

ones I have when I need to take a Xanax close to bedtime...they remind me of the

time back in the 60's when I dropped acid!!)) I only sleep for about four hours

a night too...then I'm tired all day. I'm thinking about asking my doc if I can

go up to 15 or 20 mg per day. I feel a lot better, but not 100%. I also

experience mild nausea during the day for several hours after taking it.

Nothing serious. So far I think is a pretty good medicine...and I've been on a

lot of them.

Jan :o)

>Lexapro

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>Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:42:54 EST

>Subject: Re: Vivid Dreams

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Hi Jan. I also have pretty vivid dreams on Lexapro. But honestly, I'd rather deal with the vivid dreams,and jaw clenching than deal with the terrible anxiety that lexapro has literally helped me 100%. My anxiety is completely gone, and you have to understand, I've been dealing with this for years, and it was so bad I didnt leave my house for months in fear of having panic attacks. So I am totally grateful to lexapro. I feel like whatever side effects do come my way I will deal with them b/c the payoff is so wonderful. Hopefully your nausea will go away, as far as the dreams go-they'll probobly stick around for the duration your on lex. At least thats how I am-my dreams dont stop being so vivid unless I stop my med's. Good luck to you!

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> wow, there is a sub-culture for everything on the internet!!

>

> I started on 10mg Lexapro about a week ago.

>

> I'm noticiably less focused on actually killing myself, although

the

> persistent desire to not be alive is still there. The reality of a

> life wasted and ruined is a huge thing to expect any medication to

> overcome.

>

> Anyway, has anyone experienced more vivid dreams. This has been

> really annoying for me as the dreams always seem to be about my ex-

> wife, who cuckold me.

>

> Thanks, nice group of people here.

>

> Trip

>

> 44, clinically depressed, 25 years in therapy, BPD, OCD

Hi,

I too have vivid dreams ,had them on celexa too. I just dreamed

of working for the gov of wis where i live!!!!! Except he ended up

being the gov of NY.Pataki I think .Very weird.But It was a nice

dream of having a great job!

I have scary dreams too.......Which are't as nice.

I too had suicidal tendencies but they are lessened on these drugs

Thank God...

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Trip,

You might have ruined your life up until now, your wife cuckolded you, Join the club... The point is to start today, no more self defeating behavior.. there is life out there... and it is good. But you have to seek it with all your might, be the master of your thoughts, and have hope for a brighter day

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I have had vivid dreams to since I started lex. Although I switch from celexa to lex and I remember when I first started celexa that I had that same problem. But they do go away. Give it time.

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I hope you're wrong about the vivid dreams going away in time, at least in my

case. I love the dreams I've been having. They're a wonderful escape from

reality, I look foward to them eagerly every night!

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What do you believe isn't true, that your dreams will go away. Well I have been on lex for 2 weeks now and mine are gone. I was on celexa before lex, and I had vivid dreams for a little while.

kim

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Yes, quite a few here, including me, had vivid dreams on Lex, Celexa, and

maybe other antidepressants. It only took five years of them for my

psychiatrist to finally admit that the meds can cause the vivid dreaming.

Since I've been off the meds (with the ok of everyone), the vivid dreaming

has eased WAAAAAAAAYYYYY up.

I'm only a little bitter,

Good Luck,

Vivid Dreams

> Has anyone else started having really vivid dreams since starting

> Lex? Not only have I had vivid dreams, I have several in one

> night. A lot of them seem so real that I can't tell when I wake up

> whether it was real or not. Like I'm on break from school this

> week, but the other night I had a dream that I was called and told

> that I had to come in to school for some reason, and when I woke up

> that morning I got up thinking that I had to go to school. Then I

> started thinking about it and it took me a while to realize it was a

> dream. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this...

>

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Dear Dan

These are options after Atripla

1- Boosted Reyataz plus Truvada-  Pros: once a day regimen, lipid friendly. cons: few people develop jandice and turn yellow (very few)

2- Kaletra plus Truvada- Proven regimen. Novir is already part of the formulation of kaletra.  Cons: lipids can increase, some gut problems in a few

3- Isentress plus Truvada-  48 week data looks as good as Atripla with no nightmares/dreams and no lipid increase. Cons: not enough long term data

4- Boosted Saquinavir (Invirase) plus Truvada-  as good as boosted Reyataz plus Truvada or Kaletra plus Truvada but a few more pills-  lipids not bad and no yellow skin 

5- Boosted Lexiva plus Truvada-  lipid increases like Kaletra plus more pills than Kaletra+TRuvada. If you develop resistance to this combo you may have resistance to a second generation protease inhibitor (Prezista)

6-  Viramune plus Truvada- good lipids, no dreams but liver problems in some patients

There are others, but they expose you to more drugs and classes.

you can read reviews of these drugs at

http://positivelyaware.com/2008/08_01/drug_guide.html

Vivid dreams

I've been on Atripla for over 3 years, and Sustiva before that.

The Vivid dream thing is wearing me out.

I have three Lifetime Movies in my head each night.

six months

I never thought DREAMING could be a valid side effect.

I've never had any other side effects on any HIV drugs....since 1991

What are the options?

Dan

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ive also had VERY vivid dreams on kaletra and now on reyataz.....its quite odd......and nerve racking........NC

"Today, a young man on acid, realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves... " -Bill Hicks

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ive also had VERY vivid dreams on kaletra and now on reyataz.....its quite odd......and nerve racking........NC

"Today, a young man on acid, realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves... " -Bill Hicks

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If the dream thing is not fading after all this time, I'd discuss

treatment options with your doctor.

There are many options open to you, more if you have not had any

" failures " with previous combinations.

JB

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If the dream thing is not fading after all this time, I'd discuss

treatment options with your doctor.

There are many options open to you, more if you have not had any

" failures " with previous combinations.

JB

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I saw where someone was describing their vivid dreams, (which most people seem to find a bad thing) and she said " in color " .This makes me wonder, because when I do dream it IS in color and always has been. ( I have not started LDN yet.)

I have always enjoyed my colorful, exciting dreams, and would have described them as " vivid " , and can't understand why this is described as one of the " down sides " of starting LDN. Do people mean they are having " nightmares " , the kind of dream that wakes you up terrified? Because that I understand is a bad thing.

I wonder what (if anything) my having vivid dreams all the time means for me. Do I have endorphins already? Will LDN be ineffective for my " depression " and fatigue?There was a time when my dreams went away and I missed them terribly. Was that a time of low endorphins?

Just thinking out loud. But I would like to hear more detail about peoples' dreams and how they are different when first starting LDN.Robin

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All of my supposed LDN-induced dreams have been vivid and mostly pleasant.

Really quite interesting. If I've had a particularly difficult time at work

during the day some of the characters from these incidents may appear in the

dream, but I always end up killing them. So all's well that ends well.

Art

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>

> I saw where someone was describing their vivid dreams, (which most people

> seem to find a bad thing) and she said " in color " .

> This makes me wonder, because when I do dream it IS in color and always has

> been. ( I have not started LDN yet.)

> I have always enjoyed my colorful, exciting dreams, and would have described

> them as " vivid " , and can't understand why this is described as one of the

> " down sides " of starting LDN. Do people mean they are having " nightmares " ,

> the kind of dream that wakes you up terrified? Because that I understand is

> a bad thing.

> I wonder what (if anything) my having vivid dreams all the time means for

> me. Do I have endorphins already? Will LDN be ineffective for my

> " depression " and fatigue?

> There was a time when my dreams went away and I missed them terribly. Was

> that a time of low endorphins?

> Just thinking out loud. But I would like to hear more detail about peoples'

> dreams and how they are different when first starting LDN.

> Robin

>

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I think I was the one describing the vivid and colorful dreams on

ldn. Actually, I think I've always dreamed in color ~ just not quite

as vivid! And they're really a lot of fun. I go to interesting

places and do very interesting things (haven't killed anybody...yet)

but I do think I'm having what I used to call " twilight " sleep where

I'm not actually too far under. And I do wake up frequently, but it

could be the two kittens on my bed...but I actually do enjoy the

dreams. Not a problem but wish I got more...rest. Carole

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From: rtee54@...

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Vivid dreams

Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:37:35 -0000

>All of my supposed LDN-induced dreams have been vivid and mostly

>pleasant. Really quite interesting. If I've had a particularly

>difficult time at work during the day some of the characters from

>these incidents may appear in the dream, but I always end up killing

>them. So all's well that ends well.

>

>Art

>---

>

>

>>

>> I saw where someone was describing their vivid dreams, (which most

>people

>> seem to find a bad thing) and she said " in color " .

>> This makes me wonder, because when I do dream it IS in color and

>always has

>> been. ( I have not started LDN yet.)

>> I have always enjoyed my colorful, exciting dreams, and would have

>described

>> them as " vivid " , and can't understand why this is described as one

>of the

>> " down sides " of starting LDN. Do people mean they are having

> " nightmares " ,

>> the kind of dream that wakes you up terrified? Because that I

>understand is

>> a bad thing.

>> I wonder what (if anything) my having vivid dreams all the time

>means for

>> me. Do I have endorphins already? Will LDN be ineffective for my

>> " depression " and fatigue?

>> There was a time when my dreams went away and I missed them

>terribly. Was

>> that a time of low endorphins?

>> Just thinking out loud. But I would like to hear more detail about

>peoples'

>> dreams and how they are different when first starting LDN.

>> Robin

>>

>

>

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I had some great dreams (more colourful than normal) the first few days

on LDN, then they disappeared. I want them back!!

Robin Little wrote:

> I saw where someone was describing their vivid dreams, (which most

> people seem to find a bad thing) and she said " in color " .

> This makes me wonder, because when I do dream it IS in color and

> always has been. ( I have not started LDN yet.)

> I have always enjoyed my colorful, exciting dreams, and would have

> described them as " vivid " , and can't understand why this is described

> as one of the " down sides " of starting LDN. Do people mean they are

> having " nightmares " , the kind of dream that wakes you up terrified?

> Because that I understand is a bad thing.

> I wonder what (if anything) my having vivid dreams all the time means

> for me. Do I have endorphins already? Will LDN be ineffective for my

> " depression " and fatigue?

> There was a time when my dreams went away and I missed them terribly.

> Was that a time of low endorphins?

> Just thinking out loud. But I would like to hear more detail about

> peoples' dreams and how they are different when first starting LDN.

> Robin

>

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MazYou are probably right about B deficiencies, because I was suffering from severe celiac and didn't know it. Now that I stay GF and take supplements (lots of Bs) I do dream again, thank goodness.I have definitely decided to try LDN, it's in the mail as we speak. I will keep the group informed how I do on it.

I am still trying to get an appt with Dr Berkson. He has agreed to see me! YAY!Warmest Regards,Robin Little

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mazhannah

Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:33 pm (PDT)

I am not sure about endorphins affecting dreams. I have been on LDN for

a month now and for that time I didn't dream, just a sense of blackness

while I'll slept. Like I wasn't deeply asleep but in a black room. My

dreams are starting to return and are quite vivid. I'm on 2.5mg. I

think the absence of dreams was another form of sleep disturbance

pertaining to adjusting to the LDN.

Excessive amounts of 5-htp can make me dream a lot, and it isn't restful, but rather too much REM sleep.

Vitamin B and some other nutritional deficiencies may also cause an absence of dreams or dream recall.

If you have suffered depression and fatigue (and probably stress) it is

possible you had periods of deficiency in the past when you didn't

dream.

I will be interested to know what happens for you if you decide to start the LDN.

Maz

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