Re: Do most of y'all still have to us Cialis, Viagra with TRT?

[Guest guest]

Yes, I do...and that's not a guarantee, its gonna work!

In a message dated 8/9/2010 12:55:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

fprappas@... writes:

Do most of y'all still have to use cialis or Viagra to help some while on

TRT. It has been about 3 weeks now since I have started TRT using Dr. s

protocol. When do things start really going?

Thank you,

Greg

[Guest guest]

Yes. But my TRT is not tuned in correctly.

JMHO, but I think that any man with high T and low E would not need any other

help unless other problems are present.

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> Do most of y'all still have to use cialis or Viagra to help some while on TRT.

It has been about 3 weeks now since I have started TRT using Dr. s protocol.

When do things start really going?

> Thank you,

> Greg

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[Guest guest]

First you need to get your total T levels up into the upper 1/3 of your labs

range. Then get and keep your Estradiol down to about 20 pg/ml then little by

little your going to feel better day by day it's not an over night thing. Your

body has been low for some time this dose damage and it takes time to undo this

damgage getting your levels back up and keeping them up. Keep a log on how your

feeling day to day and from week to week read it back and see how your feeling.

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Phil

> From: fprappas <fprappas@...>

> Subject: Do most of y'all still have to us Cialis, Viagra with

TRT?

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> Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 12:48 PM

> Do most of y'all still have to use

> cialis or Viagra to help some while on TRT.  It has

> been about 3 weeks now since I have started TRT using Dr.

> s protocol.  When do things start really going?

> Thank you,

> Greg

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[Guest guest]

I don't have to use it but if I want to take a lesiurely roll in the hay i may

take a1/2 tab of levitra or viagra.Guarantees I will stay hard for as long as i

want.Cialis is like taking a sugar pill.No response whatsoever.Spontaneous sex i

use nothing. Phil

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> Do most of y'all still have to use cialis or Viagra to help some while on TRT.

It has been about 3 weeks now since I have started TRT using Dr. s protocol.

When do things start really going?

> Thank you,

> Greg

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[Guest guest]

I am on Cialis for my heart take 5mgs everyday taking it everyday it works take

my word for it. I was on 20 mgs every 3 days this works the same way if you

take it every 3 days.

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Phil

> From: phil <phildude43@...>

> Subject: Re: Do most of y'all still have to us Cialis, Viagra

with TRT?

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> Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 2:45 PM

> I don't have to use it but if I want

> to take a lesiurely roll in the hay i may take a1/2 tab of

> levitra or viagra.Guarantees I will stay hard for as long as

> i want.Cialis is like taking a sugar pill.No response

> whatsoever.Spontaneous sex i use nothing.    Phil

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> > Do most of y'all still have to use cialis or Viagra to

> help some while on TRT.  It has been about 3 weeks now

> since I have started TRT using Dr. s protocol. 

> When do things start really going?

> > Thank you,

> > Greg

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[Guest guest]

Right if my Estradiol is to high or low it will not work.

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Phil

> From: bwilli45409@... <bwilli45409@...>

> Subject: Re: Do most of y'all still have to us Cialis, Viagra

with TRT?

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> Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 2:51 PM

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> Yes, I do...and that's not a guarantee, its gonna work!

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> In a message dated 8/9/2010 12:55:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight

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> fprappas@...

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> Do most of y'all still have to use cialis or Viagra to help

> some while on 

> TRT. It has been about 3 weeks now since I have started TRT

> using Dr. s 

> protocol. When do things start really going?

> Thank  you,

> Greg

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[Guest guest]

Phil, how long have you been taking it? I have heard over time, it takes more

and more to have the same effect. Do you find this to be true, or that you

become totally dependant on it, so it you stopped, you would not be able to

perform at all????

From: pmgamer18@...

Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 11:52:50 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: Do most of y'all still have to us Cialis, Viagra

with TRT?

I am on Cialis for my heart take 5mgs everyday taking it everyday it works

take my word for it. I was on 20 mgs every 3 days this works the same way if

you take it every 3 days.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: phil <phildude43@...>

> Subject: Re: Do most of y'all still have to us Cialis, Viagra

with TRT?

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> Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 2:45 PM

> I don't have to use it but if I want

> to take a lesiurely roll in the hay i may take a1/2 tab of

> levitra or viagra.Guarantees I will stay hard for as long as

> i want.Cialis is like taking a sugar pill.No response

> whatsoever.Spontaneous sex i use nothing. Phil

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> > Do most of y'all still have to use cialis or Viagra to

> help some while on TRT. It has been about 3 weeks now

> since I have started TRT using Dr. s protocol.

> When do things start really going?

> > Thank you,

> > Greg

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[Guest guest]

When I figured out my ED was from high levels of Estradiol as I got my levels

down I got night time and morning wood back. I then could get it up for sex but

the worries about it staying up would kill it so my Dr. told to take 20 mgs or

Cialis every 3 days until I got over this. In about 2 months I stopped taking

it but my wife later asked me to take it she said I was a lot harder on it like

when I was in my 20's. So my Dr. took me off a BP med I was on and we just did

the Cialis. I have come off it many times and every thing worked fine just now

as good. Now I am on it for my Heart my wife older now could care less about

sex as much as I do.

I keep telling her now she needs her hormones adjusted this dose not go over to

well with her. She tells me mind your own business.

Co-Moderator

Phil

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> > From: phil <phildude43@...>

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> > Subject: Re: Do most of y'all still

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> > Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 2:45 PM

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> > I don't have to use it but if I want

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> > to take a lesiurely roll in the hay i may take a1/2

> tab of

>

> > levitra or viagra.Guarantees I will stay hard for as

> long as

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> > i want.Cialis is like taking a sugar pill.No response

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> > whatsoever.Spontaneous sex i use nothing.   

> Phil

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> weeks now

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> > since I have started TRT using Dr. s protocol.

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> > When do things start really going?

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> > > Thank you,

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[Guest guest]

I have to agree it playing with your mind or confidence level.  My wife thinks

I am a hypochondriac with Hypothyroid/Hypogonadism going on.  So yeah, it helps

with confidence.

Greg

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> > From: phil <phildude43@...>

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> > Subject: Re: Do most of y'all still

> have to us Cialis, Viagra with TRT?

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> > Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 2:45 PM

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> > I don't have to use it but if I want

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> > to take a lesiurely roll in the hay i may take a1/2

> tab of

>

> > levitra or viagra.Guarantees I will stay hard for as

> long as

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> > i want.Cialis is like taking a sugar pill.No response

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> > whatsoever.Spontaneous sex i use nothing.   

> Phil

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> > help some while on TRT.  It has been about 3

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> > since I have started TRT using Dr. s protocol.

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> > When do things start really going?

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[Guest guest]

Most every guy I talk to say this about there wife and family. My wife was very

bad when I got sick and Dr.'s said it was Major Depression I think with Dr.'s

don't know they should just say so " I Don't Know " and let your find a better Dr.

but no they tell us there is nothing wrong it's all in your head and we get the

SHI* from family and friends.

Co-Moderator

Phil

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> > > From: phil <phildude43@...>

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> > > Subject: Re: Do most of y'all

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> > have to us Cialis, Viagra with TRT?

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> > > Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 2:45 PM

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> > > I don't have to use it but if I want

> >

> > > to take a lesiurely roll in the hay i may take

> a1/2

> > tab of

> >

> > > levitra or viagra.Guarantees I will stay hard for

> as

> > long as

> >

> > > i want.Cialis is like taking a sugar pill.No

> response

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> > > whatsoever.Spontaneous sex i use nothing.   

> > Phil

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> > > > Do most of y'all still have to use cialis

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> > Viagra to

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> > > help some while on TRT.  It has been about 3

> > weeks now

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> > > since I have started TRT using Dr. s

> protocol.

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> > > When do things start really going?

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> > > > Thank you,

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[Guest guest]

Phil,

So does this shorten the refractory period?

B

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> > Do most of y'all still have to use cialis or Viagra to help some while on

TRT. It has been about 3 weeks now since I have started TRT using Dr. s

protocol. When do things start really going?

> > Thank you,

> > Greg

> >

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[Guest guest]

If I have sex every other day it takes me a long time to reach an orgasm. The

work is not worth it if I have sex 2x's a week it's all good even better once a

week but then I am 66 yrs old just getting over heart bypass surgery.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: master_trancer <master_trancer@...>

> Subject: Re: Do most of y'all still have to us Cialis, Viagra

with TRT?

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> Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 4:51 PM

> Phil,

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> So does this shorten the refractory period?

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> B

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> > > Do most of y'all still have to use cialis or

> Viagra to help some while on TRT.  It has been about 3

> weeks now since I have started TRT using Dr. s

> protocol.  When do things start really going?

> > > Thank you,

> > > Greg

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