Re: Can DIM over stress the liver???

[Guest guest]

Thank you for you help! What is TMG and what does it do??

In a message dated 1/16/2010 5:15:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

pmgamer18@... writes:

Any kind of med can stress the liver every being on TRT all anyone is

saying is TMG helps the liver wash out the E's in your body. DIM will not hurt

your liver.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: _gviceman77@..._ (mailto:gviceman77@...)

<_gviceman77@..._ (mailto:gviceman77@...) >

> Subject: Can DIM over stress the liver???

> _ @hypogonadismhyp_

(mailto: )

> Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 4:49 PM

> So DIM can over stress the liver???

>

>

> In a message dated 1/16/2010 1:26:47 P.M. Eastern Standard

> Time,

> _hardasnails1973@hardasnails_ (mailto:hardasnails1973@...)

> writes:

>

>

>

>

> another option to dim is iodoral at 25-50 mgs a day.

> It pretty much does the same thing with less stress

> to the liver.

>

>

> >

> > > From: gviceman77@. Fr<gviceman77@gvi>

> > > Subject: DIM / Androlgel /

> and Night Sweats

> > > _ @ _hypogon

> (mailto:_ @hypogonadismhyp_

(mailto: ) )

> , gviceman77@. g

> > > Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 11:17 AM

> > >

> > > I have been having Night Sweats for about 2

> years.

> > >

> > > I have been taking DIM 200 mg daily for

> about a year. (I

> > > take 100 mg in the AM and 100 mg at dinner

> time.

> > >

> > > I have been on ANDROGEL 4 pumps

> (5g) for the past 9

> > > weeks.

> > >

> > >

> > > Test was at 238 now 366.

> > >

> > > The night sweats have subsided after

> 8 weeks on

> > > ANDROGEL. I have not had any night

> sweats.

> > >

> > > NOW my DR. had me increase my dose of

> ANDROGEL to 5 pumps

> > > daily (6.25g) 2 days ago. I now have

> experienced night

> > > sweats again for the past 2 nights.

> > >

> > > can someone tell me what is going on?

> > >

> > > Are the night sweats just my body adjusting

> to the

> > > increased ANDROGEL dosage?????

> > >

> > > How much DIM should I be taking.

> > >

> > > Is 200 mg too much??.

> > >

> > >

> > > I am a 51 yr old male in excellent physical

> condition

> > > weights and cardio.

> > >

> > > I have a moderate case of BPH.

> PSA 0.7

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Any kind of med can stress the liver every being on TRT all anyone is saying is

TMG helps the liver wash out the E's in your body. DIM will not hurt your

liver.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: gviceman77@... <gviceman77@...>

> Subject: Can DIM over stress the liver???

>

> Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 4:49 PM

> So DIM can over stress the liver???

>

>

> In a message dated 1/16/2010 1:26:47 P.M. Eastern Standard

> Time, 

> hardasnails1973@...

> writes:

>

>

>

>

> another option to dim is iodoral at 25-50 mgs a day.

> It pretty much does  the same thing with less stress

> to the liver.

>

>

> > 

> > > From: gviceman77@. Fr<gviceman77@gvi>

> >  > Subject: DIM / Androlgel /

> and Night Sweats

> > >  _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> (mailto: )

> ,  gviceman77@.,

> > > Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 11:17  AM

> > >

> > > I have been having Night Sweats for about 2 

> years.

> > >

> > > I have been taking DIM 200 mg daily for 

> about a year. (I

> > > take 100 mg in the AM and 100 mg at dinner 

> time.

> > >

> > > I have been on ANDROGEL 4 pumps

> (5g)   for the past 9

> > > weeks.

> > >

> > >

> > >  Test was at 238 now 366.

> > >

> > > The night sweats have  subsided after 

> 8 weeks on

> > > ANDROGEL.  I have not had  any night

> sweats.

> > >

> > > NOW my DR. had me increase my  dose of

> ANDROGEL to 5 pumps

> > > daily (6.25g) 2 days ago.  I now  have

> experienced night

> > > sweats again for the past 2  nights.

> > >

> > > can someone tell me what is going  on?

> > >

> > > Are the night sweats just my body adjusting

> to  the

> > > increased ANDROGEL dosage?????

> > >

> > > How  much DIM should I be taking. 

> > >

> > > Is 200 mg too  much??.

> > >

> > >

> > > I am a 51 yr old male in  excellent physical

> condition

> > > weights and cardio.

> > > 

> > > I have a moderate case of BPH.   

>   PSA  0.7

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >  >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > > 

[Guest guest]

TMG is also good for your heart.

http://www.myvitanet.com/tmgtr75120ca.html

This is a cut and paste as to why Dr. feels we should take TMG with DIM.

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We should remember that DIM also increases the level of the dangerous 4-OHE as

well as improving 2-OHE/16-alpha-OHE. Thus it should not be taken without DMG,

or preferably TMG, to wash the 4-OHE downstream in its metabolic pathway. Folic

acid helps as well.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: _gviceman77@..._

> (mailto:gviceman77@...) 

>

> <_gviceman77@..._

> (mailto:gviceman77@...)

> >

> >  Subject: Can DIM over stress the

> liver???

> > _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> (mailto: )

>

> >  Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 4:49 PM

> > So DIM can over stress the  liver???

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 1/16/2010 1:26:47 P.M. 

> Eastern Standard

> > Time, 

> > _hardasnails1973@hardasnails_ (mailto:hardasnails1973@...)

>

> >  writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > another option to dim is  iodoral at 25-50 mgs a

> day.

> > It pretty much does  the same thing  with

> less stress

> > to the liver.

> >

> >

> > > 

> > > > From: gviceman77@. 

> Fr<gviceman77@gvi>

> > >  > Subject:   DIM /

> Androlgel /

> > and Night Sweats

> > > >  To:  _ @ To: 

> _hypogon

> > (mailto:_ @hypogonadismhyp_

> (mailto: )

> )

> >  ,  gviceman77@. g

> > > > Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 

> 11:17  AM

> > > >

> > > > I have been having Night  Sweats for

> about 2

> > years.

> > > >

> > > > I  have been taking DIM 200 mg daily

> for

> > about a year. (I

> >  > > take 100 mg in the AM and 100 mg at

> dinner

> >  time.

> > > >

> > > > I have been on ANDROGEL 4  pumps

> > (5g)   for the past 9

> > > >  weeks.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  Test was  at 238 now 366.

> > > >

> > > > The night sweats  have  subsided

> after

> > 8 weeks on

> > > >  ANDROGEL.  I have not had 

> any night

> > sweats.

> > >  >

> > > > NOW my DR. had me increase my  dose of

> >  ANDROGEL to 5 pumps

> > > > daily (6.25g) 2 days ago.  I 

> now  have

> > experienced night

> > > > sweats again for  the past 2 

> nights.

> > > >

> > > > can someone tell  me what is

> going  on?

> > > >

> > > > Are the night  sweats just my body

> adjusting

> > to  the

> > > > increased  ANDROGEL dosage?????

> > > >

> > > > How  much DIM  should I be

> taking. 

> > > >

> > > > Is 200 mg  too  much??.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I am  a 51 yr old male in 

> excellent physical

> > condition

> > >  > weights and cardio.

> > > > 

> > > > I have a  moderate case of

> BPH.   

> >   PSA  0.7

> > >  >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >  > 

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message

> have  been

> > removed]

> > >  >

> > > >

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