Guest guest Posted September 3, 1999 Report Share Posted September 3, 1999 H ---- Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...> hypothyroidismonelist <hypothyroidismonelist> Date: Friday, 3 September 1999 16:33 Subject: Low body Temp Hi, to all, I have been able to learn a lot from our LIST for my own personal reasons) I have been silent, but it has been interesting over the past week or so - I I think Denis is right - Yes, a lot of the LIST subscribers are/or could perhaps be people that have something to sell - but what does it matter? - If the product that they are selling helps - well, I think that is great! Let's face it - why are we here - we are sick!? We have been asking for help - especially for - natural help! We get some guy on-line to us, that offers help. Hey - from the data that I have worked through (via the internet, not just this LIST), Earl makes a lot of sense. At least give him the benefit of the doubt - to date - as I recall - there are three (or maybe 4 of us) that are willing to give his advice a try (thyrodine etc). (Also Shell too - free of charge). The research that I have done (extensively) has shown that there are a lot of factors that relate to our problem - I don't to profess to know the answer, but (from my heart) I truely believe that there are all sorts of reasons for our illness ... perhaps I could go on ... but I have always thought (but perhaps not always lived by!) YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT! (It is interesting that I have known that I have a wheat allergy and get migraine headaches when I let this allergy 'lapse' so-to-speak!). Together with all the other symptoms of Hyothyroidism, I couldn't get any Doctor to take me seriously - until a few months ago - my hair started falling out in handfulls! Something had to be done and I found a 'normal' doctor was a waste of time! I tell you all this - becuase I was desperate (who wouldn't be - if your hair was falling out - everyday, in handfuls?!!!) .. OK - out of all this (I have received Earl's advice, but to date no Thyrodine - which I have ordered and is coming), he also advised natural progesterone cream (as a suplementl. thought - why not " Wild Yam " tablets? (Wild Yam is a natural progesterone). Anyway, already, I feel a bit better! (This is after 5 days of a concentrated doseage). This is not mind over matter - we are talking about a " Prozak Girl " - so desperate for help that I was prepared to compomise and resort to " drugs " for " help " . Anyway, I have also found that a supplement of Selenium has stopped the 'hair problem' - thankgoodness. I believe there's got to be a better way than taking man-made chemicals and drugs. Will let you all know the outcome of my 'supplements' and the Thyrodine when I receive it.. Regards, Helena >From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...> > >I thought my low body temp in the face of a normal thyroid blood levels >would still indicate a low thyroid condition. My health care provider >who is very well schooled in clinical nutrition said to me that in the >absence of any other symptoms, a low body temp for some people is normal >and ok and does not necessarily imply a low thyroid. > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 1999 Report Share Posted September 4, 1999 Dear Dennis: Low body temperature is a strong indicator for hypothyroid. It may also indicate adrenal fatigue or both. We must get to handle the fact that blood tests for thyroid function are too insensitive to actually be accurate. You know when you have the symptoms of thyroid dysfunction, they are so obvious. So when someone goes along to a medically trained person who depends upon blood tests rather than his/her diagnostic skills, then error is rampant. The " therapy " for thyroid dysfunction can only be what these people have been trained to " believe. " Trained by pharmaceutical money. Medically trained personnel are taught that if a person has a glandular dysfunction [by their diagnostic skills, symptoms, ankle clonus, the persons own intuition] the only thing they know to do is to prescribe.... " hormone replacement. " That means a synthetic analogue made by some pharmaceutical company. The pharmaceutical companies make up a hormone " look alike, " patent it, which means it has to be different than the natural substance, then sell you, the public, the idea that this will " replace " your deficient hormones. But the synthetic or even the pig extract, does not really replace your own hormones. It performs some of the functions that your own hormones should be doing, but being a " look alike " it doesn't do all that it should. And being a drug with all sorts of residues, contaminants, preservatives, and synthetic/chemical substances, this becomes a toxin to the body. Contrast that to................ If a person has a glandular imbalance, the question has to asked.... WHY??Why is there a hormonal imbalance? The most succinct answer is...because the gland does not have the available nutrients with which to make its own hormones! There may be an excess of xeno-toxins [too much estrogen, spray residues, chemicals in food, air, water]which may impede glandular function [and set the stage for cancer]. So, de-toxification may be called for. Thats why people go to Naturopaths...to be counselled about detox processes and other health building methods. So, to restore glandular function, one obtains the nutrients the gland requires to make all its own hormones. Thyrodine has all the nutrients required for the thyroid gland to make all its T4 and convert whatever is required into T3. This drops TSH to normal and metabolism assumes a normal function. [assuming there is no gross toxicity, no drugs being taken, no junk food being eaten, no terrible job to go to every day, etc. Nuf said. best wishes, Earl Low body Temp From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...> I thought my low body temp in the face of a normal thyroid blood levels would still indicate a low thyroid condition. My health care provider who is very well schooled in clinical nutrition said to me that in the absence of any other symptoms, a low body temp for some people is normal and ok and does not necessarily imply a low thyroid. --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 1999 Report Share Posted September 5, 1999 PREACH ON SISTER PREACH ON! I feel like you. You must give someone a benfit of a doubt and at this point I am willing to try any thing. come on 3 years of hell for me! I feel there are days are not worth living but I keep doing it. I have started back on the doseage my doctor (that quit on me) told me to take when it runs out I will seek another internal medicine doctor. But seriously after the hell I have been put through, the guinea pig status I have almost come to the conclusions there are doctors that are right down QUACKS! I had one had me coming in (after I had found out) just for money purposes. When I could have had my hyperthyroid destoryed yes they destroyed it rather letting me having the surgey (Which I highly recommending instead of the idione radiation) a year earlier. I as well had hair falling out by the handfuls. I had hair down to my butt when I finally had to have it cut really short cause it was falling out so bad every drain in my house was getting plugged on a daily bases. I still never felt good. I had chest pains, They even thought I was having major heart troubles. It was due to the fact of my hyperthyroid. The first year of my Hyperthyroid I had spent over 20K in medical expenses not including the medication! After I sought another doctor I was able to have something done about it. Tho I live with the largest mistake of my life. I felt I was on the road to recovery. To only fall flat on my face. Yes I have done my homework and researched it out. At the time I thought I was doing the right thing. I still have Greaves Diease with my now hypothyroid. I am so sick and tired of having the run around and feeling like some QUACKS guinea pig it is unreal. I am now taking Ginsing (sp?) along with the synthyoid. Ginsing seems to help me when I am feeling really runned down. Not fully but helps alot. Other wise there would be days I would be in bed all day long. I started my synthyoid the past 3 days in hopes of tring to get to feel human. So before anyone goes off judging anyone. Give someone the benfit of a doubt they have something that will help! I ordered it and I am going to give it a shot. What do you got to loose? No out of pocket expense. You ought to see the herbs and health food stuff I got that I bought thinking it alot of it will help. Some do some don't. There is alot I cannot take cause it effects me. Gives me bad headaches! Sorry for the rant. Helena you have a good point keep it that way. Forgive me if I am yelling or telling someone off or pointing fingers. I did not mean it to be that way. I just wanted to share my point of view of what I have been through and lord knows there is alot more to come. Yes I am one angry person cause I feel like I was someone's money maker and human guinea pig not! Now it is something I have to live and deal with the rest of my life. --Shell Low body Temp > Hi, to all, > I have been able to learn a lot from our LIST for my own personal reasons) > I have been silent, but it has been interesting over the past week or so - I > I think Denis is right - Yes, a lot of the LIST subscribers are/or could > perhaps be people that have something to sell - but what does it matter? - > If the product that they are selling helps - well, I think that is great! > Let's face it - why are we here - we are sick!? > > We have been asking for help - especially for - natural help! We get some > guy on-line to us, that offers help. Hey - from the data that I have worked > through (via the internet, not just this LIST), Earl makes a lot of sense. > At least give him the benefit of the doubt - to date - as I recall - there > are three (or maybe 4 of us) that are willing to give his advice a try > (thyrodine etc). (Also Shell too - free of charge). > > The research that I have done (extensively) has shown that there are a lot > of factors that relate to our problem - I don't to profess to know the > answer, but (from my heart) I truely believe that there are all sorts of > reasons for our illness ... perhaps I could go on ... but I have always > thought (but perhaps not always lived by!) YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT! (It is > interesting that I have known that I have a wheat allergy and get migraine > headaches when I let this allergy 'lapse' so-to-speak!). > > Together with all the other symptoms of Hyothyroidism, I couldn't get any > Doctor to take me seriously - until a few months ago - my hair started > falling out in handfulls! Something had to be done and I found a 'normal' > doctor was a waste of time! I tell you all this - becuase I was desperate > (who wouldn't be - if your hair was falling out - everyday, in handfuls?!!!) > . > > OK - out of all this (I have received Earl's advice, but to date no > Thyrodine - which I have ordered and is coming), he also advised natural > progesterone cream (as a suplementl. thought - why not " Wild Yam " tablets? > (Wild Yam is a natural progesterone). Anyway, already, I feel a bit better! > (This is after 5 days of a concentrated doseage). This is not mind over > matter - we are talking about a " Prozak Girl " - so desperate for help that I > was prepared to compomise and resort to " drugs " for " help " . > > Anyway, I have also found that a supplement of Selenium has stopped the > 'hair problem' - thankgoodness. I believe there's got to be a better way > than taking man-made chemicals and drugs. > > Will let you all know the outcome of my 'supplements' and the Thyrodine > when I receive it.. > > Regards, Helena > > >From: Dennis Lipter <dlipter@...> > > > >I thought my low body temp in the face of a normal thyroid blood levels > >would still indicate a low thyroid condition. My health care provider > >who is very well schooled in clinical nutrition said to me that in the > >absence of any other symptoms, a low body temp for some people is normal > >and ok and does not necessarily imply a low thyroid. > > > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 What are you doing for your thyroid? Dorothy > Steph, What adrenal product would you recommend for low body temp ( > like 91.2 all day!) at illness is optional? > I went to Biotics Research, however it was for 'health professionals'. > So I do not think I can order from them either.. > thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 You can't buy Biotics on their website. You have to go through another website that is run by a HC Proffessional. http://www.totalsupplement.net/shop/?itemid=65 http://bioenergeticnutrition.net/store/item/8cz9/Biotics_Products/Cytozyme-AD_ad\ renal_60t.html http://spinelife.stores..net/cytozymead60t.html Just a few that do sell it. low body temp > Steph, What adrenal product would you recommend for low body temp ( > like 91.2 all day!) at illness is optional? > I went to Biotics Research, however it was for 'health professionals'. > So I do not think I can order from them either.. > thanks, > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Steph, Thanks sooo much! low body temp> Steph, What adrenal product would you recommend for low body temp (> like 91.2 all day!) at illness is optional?> I went to Biotics Research, however it was for 'health professionals' .> So I do not think I can order from them either..> thanks, >>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 YW low body temp> Steph, What adrenal product would you recommend for low body temp (> like 91.2 all day!) at illness is optional?> I went to Biotics Research, however it was for 'health professionals' .> So I do not think I can order from them either..> thanks, >>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 I have low T and am on two packets of Testogel,not much change in libido,I have no desire at all.For at least the past 3 or 4 years I have had a low body temp of around 35.3 to 36.5,however over the last few months it has dipped to 34 and is usually around 34.5 to 35.5,I feel tired and at 49 feel as if I am about 80 years of age,joint ache,lack of get up and go feeling.My GP(I am in the UK)feels I might be depressed,any ideas??. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Two things come to mind one your Estradiol levels are to high but one feels hot with this problem unless your Thyroid is very low. Then you might have both problems. In the UK it is very hard to get Dr.'s to test Estradiol and hard to get them to treat Thyroid. Your cortisol levels need to be checked also if low you need to treat this then your thyroid with lower your Estradol levels. If you have a bad thyroid gels might not work your skin gets thick and gels can't get through try shots. Read this link. http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/ If you test high for Estradiol then try and get Arimidex to bring it down we do a 1/4 of a one mg. pill we use a pill cutter to cut them in half. I don't think your Dr. will give you this so try DIM. http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0 This is a temp basal test you do under your arm before getting out of bed to tell if your thyroid is low. http://drbate.com/Ref/thyroid.html Co-Moderator Phil > From: andy e <jillandy@...> > Subject: Low body temp > > Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 1:02 PM > I have low T and am on two packets of > Testogel,not much change in libido,I have no desire at > all.For at least the past 3 or 4 years I have had a low body > temp of around 35.3 to 36.5,however over the last few months > it has dipped to 34 and is usually around 34.5 to 35.5,I > feel tired and at 49 feel as if I am about 80 years of > age,joint ache,lack of get up and go feeling.My GP(I am in > the UK)feels I might be depressed,any ideas??. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 how long have you been on the two packets of Testogel mate? have you had your iron levels checked? what about prolactin? there are some other meds your endo can add which will help. I am also on two packets of Testogel per day mate and I tell you, its like being 15 again. this is not a joke - all day I think about sex. its like the second I get into bed I have a boner. one thing I have learned from my endo and the guys here (nods to Phil) is that this really is all about balance. you have to get exactly the right combination and it really is quite finely tuned. as for low body temp, I was sat in my coat indoors for several years mate. that did not strike my GP as especially odd - the endo sussed it straight away. > > I have low T and am on two packets of Testogel,not much change in libido,I have no desire at all.For at least the past 3 or 4 years I have had a low body temp of around 35.3 to 36.5,however over the last few months it has dipped to 34 and is usually around 34.5 to 35.5,I feel tired and at 49 feel as if I am about 80 years of age,joint ache,lack of get up and go feeling.My GP(I am in the UK)feels I might be depressed,any ideas??. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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