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I do NOT believe that saliva is reliable for thyroid. In fact as you have just found, it is potentially dangerous to assume the result is reliable.

I have recommended NOT using it for at least the last 5 years.

Saliva hormones are very reliable for adrenal (in my opinion after doing hundreds of them).

They work for est. and prog (mainly because of the cost of doing 11 samples over the month - I once asked the lab to total the cost of serum labs for all the samples -it was over $2600.00)

ALL testing methods have pros and cons. You need to know what you are testing and the best medium to get the best results (blood, uring, saliva). Evaluate each test separately.

Dick Thom

Beaverton, OR

cancer, endocrine, Business of Health

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Hi Folks,

I'm relatively new to this site. Am enjoying the vast amount of information

I've learned in a short period of time. Thank you all.

I am becoming more proactive about my health which may be hard to do being

that I'm a resident of NY State. I want to have a saliva test done but

understand that it is illegal to obtain or mail a saliva test in NY State. Have

any of you had any experience with this? If so, is there a way around this

really stupid law??

Cheers,

Rob

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Your best bet is to get a Dr. to order it.

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Phil

> From: Robin <rjamestemple@...>

> Subject: Saliva testing

>

> Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 1:52 PM

> Hi Folks,

>   I'm relatively new to this site. Am enjoying the

> vast amount of information I've learned in a short period of

> time. Thank you all.

>   I am becoming more proactive about my health which

> may be hard to do being that I'm a resident of NY State. I

> want to have a saliva test done but understand that it is

> illegal to obtain or mail a saliva test in NY State. Have

> any of you had any experience with this? If so, is there a

> way around this really stupid law??

>

> Cheers,

>

> Rob

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Phil

I did just that. An out of state doctor. The problem is according to NY State

law it is illegal for me to take the test in this state. It is also illegal for

me to mail the test in NY. Absolutely crazy.

Rob

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>

> Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 1:52 PM

> Hi Folks,

>   I'm relatively new to this site. Am enjoying the

> vast amount of information I've learned in a short period of

> time. Thank you all.

>   I am becoming more proactive about my health which

> may be hard to do being that I'm a resident of NY State. I

> want to have a saliva test done but understand that it is

> illegal to obtain or mail a saliva test in NY State. Have

> any of you had any experience with this? If so, is there a

> way around this really stupid law??

>

> Cheers,

>

> Rob

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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What I am saying is find a Dr. in NY state and do it this way or go out of state

and do it by mail.

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Phil

>

> > From: Robin <rjamestemple@...>

> > Subject: Saliva testing

> >

> > Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 1:52 PM

> > Hi Folks,

> >   I'm relatively new to this site. Am enjoying the

> > vast amount of information I've learned in a short

> period of

> > time. Thank you all.

> >   I am becoming more proactive about my health which

> > may be hard to do being that I'm a resident of NY

> State. I

> > want to have a saliva test done but understand that it

> is

> > illegal to obtain or mail a saliva test in NY State.

> Have

> > any of you had any experience with this? If so, is

> there a

> > way around this really stupid law??

> >

> > Cheers,

> >

> > Rob

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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You may have missed the information presented in our phone consulation . We have

have several people that are in your same position. In order to get around this

stupid as rule. One needs to write a little note stating. " In according to NY

state law these samples were collected out side of the state of NY " dated and

sign it and insert it in the paper work. Its that simple..

>

> > From: Robin <rjamestemple@...>

> > Subject: Saliva testing

> >

> > Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 1:52 PM

> > Hi Folks,

> >   I'm relatively new to this site. Am enjoying the

> > vast amount of information I've learned in a short period of

> > time. Thank you all.

> >   I am becoming more proactive about my health which

> > may be hard to do being that I'm a resident of NY State. I

> > want to have a saliva test done but understand that it is

> > illegal to obtain or mail a saliva test in NY State. Have

> > any of you had any experience with this? If so, is there a

> > way around this really stupid law??

> >

> > Cheers,

> >

> > Rob

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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Hardasnails,

Hey, Hi. Yes, I recall the phone consult. I plan on writing the little note.

No problem. My question is....Can I mail the specimen with Fed Ex in NY

State?????? The law reads collected or mailed from NY State?

Thanks,

Rob

________________________________

From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 6:33:43 PM

Subject: Re: Saliva testing

You may have missed the information presented in our phone consulation . We have

have several people that are in your same position. In order to get around this

stupid as rule. One needs to write a little note stating. " In according to NY

state law these samples were collected out side of the state of NY " dated and

sign it and insert it in the paper work. Its that simple..

>

> > From: Robin <rjamestemple@ ...>

> > Subject: Saliva testing

> >

> > Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 1:52 PM

> > Hi Folks,

> > I'm relatively new to this site. Am enjoying the

> > vast amount of information I've learned in a short period of

> > time. Thank you all.

> > I am becoming more proactive about my health which

> > may be hard to do being that I'm a resident of NY State. I

> > want to have a saliva test done but understand that it is

> > illegal to obtain or mail a saliva test in NY State. Have

> > any of you had any experience with this? If so, is there a

> > way around this really stupid law??

> >

> > Cheers,

> >

> > Rob

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> >

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WE have patience from NY do it all the time. Not an issue. If you are close to

PA like 20-30 minutes drive then go do it.

> >

> > > From: Robin <rjamestemple@ ...>

> > > Subject: Saliva testing

> > >

> > > Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 1:52 PM

> > > Hi Folks,

> > > I'm relatively new to this site. Am enjoying the

> > > vast amount of information I've learned in a short period of

> > > time. Thank you all.

> > > I am becoming more proactive about my health which

> > > may be hard to do being that I'm a resident of NY State. I

> > > want to have a saliva test done but understand that it is

> > > illegal to obtain or mail a saliva test in NY State. Have

> > > any of you had any experience with this? If so, is there a

> > > way around this really stupid law??

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > >

> > > Rob

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

> > >

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OK, HARD,

I'm out of town til tomorrow nite. My wife and I will do the saliva tests on

Weds. Freeze them and then get them to Fed Ex on thurs.

We are eager to get an appt with the Doc considering serious med situation w my

wife.

Thank you!

Rob

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> > >

> > > Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 1:52 PM

> > > Hi Folks,

> > > I'm relatively new to this site. Am enjoying the

> > > vast amount of information I've learned in a short period of

> > > time. Thank you all.

> > > I am becoming more proactive about my health which

> > > may be hard to do being that I'm a resident of NY State. I

> > > want to have a saliva test done but understand that it is

> > > illegal to obtain or mail a saliva test in NY State. Have

> > > any of you had any experience with this? If so, is there a

> > > way around this really stupid law??

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > >

> > > Rob

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

> > >

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Please read the instructions to make sure it needs to be frozen. I use different

labs so I get confused on what procedure is.

> > >

> > > > From: Robin <rjamestemple@ ...>

> > > > Subject: Saliva testing

> > > >

> > > > Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 1:52 PM

> > > > Hi Folks,

> > > > I'm relatively new to this site. Am enjoying the

> > > > vast amount of information I've learned in a short period of

> > > > time. Thank you all.

> > > > I am becoming more proactive about my health which

> > > > may be hard to do being that I'm a resident of NY State. I

> > > > want to have a saliva test done but understand that it is

> > > > illegal to obtain or mail a saliva test in NY State. Have

> > > > any of you had any experience with this? If so, is there a

> > > > way around this really stupid law??

> > > >

> > > > Cheers,

> > > >

> > > > Rob

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > >

> > > >

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Good to know thanks Hard I get this a lot at my Thyroid forum.

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Phil

> From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

> Subject: Re: Saliva testing

>

> Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 6:33 PM

> You may have missed the information

> presented in our phone consulation . We have have several

> people that are in your same position. In order to get

> around this stupid as  rule. One needs to write a

> little note stating.  " In according to NY state law

> these samples were collected out side of the state of NY "

> dated and sign it and insert it in the paper work.  Its

> that simple..

>

>

> >

> > > From: Robin <rjamestemple@...>

> > > Subject: Saliva testing

> > >

> > > Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 1:52 PM

> > > Hi Folks,

> > >   I'm relatively new to this site. Am enjoying

> the

> > > vast amount of information I've learned in a

> short period of

> > > time. Thank you all.

> > >   I am becoming more proactive about my health

> which

> > > may be hard to do being that I'm a resident of NY

> State. I

> > > want to have a saliva test done but understand

> that it is

> > > illegal to obtain or mail a saliva test in NY

> State. Have

> > > any of you had any experience with this? If so,

> is there a

> > > way around this really stupid law??

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > >

> > > Rob

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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