Re: Question about weight and low T

[Guest guest]

Marc,

I have gained 40 pounds since being on T and HC. Not sure if it is the HC

or the T converting to E (my E is pretty high). So, looks like I'm an

anomaly.

Mike

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:01 PM, marc200134470 <cfs38@...> wrote:

>

>

> I am curious how many here were losing weight, versus gaining weight while

> suffering from low T,.......before you started TRT of course.

>

> Seems like one would be prone to gaining weight, but I remember one person

> saying something about losing a tremendous amount before going on

> replacement therapy. Wish I could remember who it was!

>

> I am getting 'mushy' in the chest and abdomen area, but overall my weight

> seems to keep slowly dropping. Haven't changed any of my eating habits, and

> short of this nagging sinus infection I have had for going on two weeks I am

> not aware of anything else being wrong with me.

>

> Looks like I have lost another 5 pounds over the last month or so. I

> probably have been eating less while I have been sick whether I realize it

> or not though.

>

>

>

--

Mike

[Guest guest]

Mike,.....is HC hydrocortisone? If so I would imagine that is where most of

yours is coming from.

I guess I am an anomaly as well, since I seem to be losing weight from low T.

[Guest guest]

With low T your going to take longer to recover from an infection my Dr. would

give me bigger shot of Test C when I got an infection but at the time it was

bladder infections from BPH.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Question about weight and low T

>

> Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 2:01 PM

> I am curious how many here were

> losing weight, versus gaining weight while suffering from

> low T,.......before you started TRT of course.

>

> Seems like one would be prone to gaining weight, but I

> remember one person saying something about losing a

> tremendous amount before going on replacement therapy. Wish

> I could remember who it was!

>

> I am getting 'mushy' in the chest and abdomen area, but

> overall my weight seems to keep slowly dropping. Haven't

> changed any of my eating habits, and short of this nagging

> sinus infection I have had for going on two weeks I am not

> aware of anything else being wrong with me.

>

> Looks like I have lost another 5 pounds over the last month

> or so. I probably have been eating less while I have been

> sick whether I realize it or not though.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I never gained weight on HC I lost it and I feel I did because it made me feel

more engery no more fatigue. I started getting out and about more and walking

in time I got so much better I started back in the Gym working out.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Re: Question about weight and low T

>

> Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 2:12 PM

> Mike,.....is HC hydrocortisone? If so

> I would imagine that is where most of yours is coming from.

>

> I guess I am an anomaly as well, since I seem to be losing

> weight from low T.

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah, if you're on the correct amount for you, it doesn't cause weight

gain. I'm probably on too much, and, fortunately, my new doc and I are

working on getting me down to a lower dose.

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:34 PM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote:

>

>

> I never gained weight on HC I lost it and I feel I did because it made me

> feel more engery no more fatigue. I started getting out and about more and

> walking in time I got so much better I started back in the Gym working out.

>

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

>

> > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@... <cfs38%40msn.com>>

> > Subject: Re: Question about weight and low T

> > < %40>

> > Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 2:12 PM

> > Mike,.....is HC hydrocortisone? If so

> > I would imagine that is where most of yours is coming from.

> >

> > I guess I am an anomaly as well, since I seem to be losing

> > weight from low T.

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It might have been me.I went from almost 6-2, 250's to 179 on a very low carb

way of eating.I still eat exactly the same way.But my test levels went just

below 300 and libido sucked.Since being on test for 8 mths I have muscled up

tremendously.Weight this morning was 194.Flat belly.33 waist from a 42. So I

went from a lean 179 to a lean 194 but now i am pretty ripped for someone almost

55.The low carbs got me looking good in clothes, now I look good naked.Far cry

from the fat, soft guy 18 mths ago. Phil

>

> I am curious how many here were losing weight, versus gaining weight while

suffering from low T,.......before you started TRT of course.

>

> Seems like one would be prone to gaining weight, but I remember one person

saying something about losing a tremendous amount before going on replacement

therapy. Wish I could remember who it was!

>

> I am getting 'mushy' in the chest and abdomen area, but overall my weight

seems to keep slowly dropping. Haven't changed any of my eating habits, and

short of this nagging sinus infection I have had for going on two weeks I am not

aware of anything else being wrong with me.

>

> Looks like I have lost another 5 pounds over the last month or so. I probably

have been eating less while I have been sick whether I realize it or not though.

>

[Guest guest]

Good for you Phil. I hope I'm in that good of shape when I turn 55. I'm

seeing Dr. C now, so I'm sure he'll have me in tip top shape in a few

months. Sure would be nice to get back into the gym and running again. I

still have to complete my fisrt Ironman before I turn 40 (inside bet my

college teammate and I made while in college).

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:05 PM, phil <phildude43@...> wrote:

>

>

> It might have been me.I went from almost 6-2, 250's to 179 on a very low

> carb way of eating.I still eat exactly the same way.But my test levels went

> just below 300 and libido sucked.Since being on test for 8 mths I have

> muscled up tremendously.Weight this morning was 194.Flat belly.33 waist from

> a 42. So I went from a lean 179 to a lean 194 but now i am pretty ripped for

> someone almost 55.The low carbs got me looking good in clothes, now I look

> good naked.Far cry from the fat, soft guy 18 mths ago. Phil

>

>

> >

> > I am curious how many here were losing weight, versus gaining weight

> while suffering from low T,.......before you started TRT of course.

> >

> > Seems like one would be prone to gaining weight, but I remember one

> person saying something about losing a tremendous amount before going on

> replacement therapy. Wish I could remember who it was!

> >

> > I am getting 'mushy' in the chest and abdomen area, but overall my weight

> seems to keep slowly dropping. Haven't changed any of my eating habits, and

> short of this nagging sinus infection I have had for going on two weeks I am

> not aware of anything else being wrong with me.

> >

> > Looks like I have lost another 5 pounds over the last month or so. I

> probably have been eating less while I have been sick whether I realize it

> or not though.

> >

>

>

>

--

Mike

[Guest guest]

Phil this is great news keep it up. I am not doing so hot losing weight and for

my heart I need to. I lost 60 lbs went from 300 to 240 when I was in a coma for

17 weeks having problems for Heart Bypass surgery. Now it's all back on me I am

looking into the HCG diet. I have talked to men on TRT all reading on HCG like

my self that lost 80 lbs on this diet. You do a 125 IU's shot of HCG force

eating fats and things for the first 3 days if you have been on a bad diet. You

do this to build up fat shores. Then you go on a 500 cal. diet for 40 shots.

People are not hungery on this diet the HCG makes your Diencephalon in your

brain make your body live off your storage fat so your not hungery and you can

lose 1 to 2 lbs a day. One needs to follow this diet with a Dr.

I am looking into this.

http://www.9news.com/rss/article.aspx?storyid=139690

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: phil <phildude43@...>

> Subject: Re: Question about weight and low T

>

> Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 6:05 PM

> It might have been me.I went from

> almost 6-2, 250's to 179 on a very low carb way of eating.I

> still eat exactly the same way.But my test levels went just

> below 300 and libido sucked.Since being on test for 8 mths I

> have muscled up tremendously.Weight this morning was

> 194.Flat belly.33 waist from a 42. So I went from a lean 179

> to a lean 194 but now i am pretty ripped for someone almost

> 55.The low carbs got me looking good in clothes, now I look

> good naked.Far cry from the fat, soft guy 18 mths

> ago.   Phil

>

>

> >

> > I am curious how many here were losing weight, versus

> gaining weight while suffering from low T,.......before you

> started TRT of course.

> >

> > Seems like one would be prone to gaining weight, but I

> remember one person saying something about losing a

> tremendous amount before going on replacement therapy. Wish

> I could remember who it was!

> >

> > I am getting 'mushy' in the chest and abdomen area,

> but overall my weight seems to keep slowly dropping. Haven't

> changed any of my eating habits, and short of this nagging

> sinus infection I have had for going on two weeks I am not

> aware of anything else being wrong with me.

> >

> > Looks like I have lost another 5 pounds over the last

> month or so. I probably have been eating less while I have

> been sick whether I realize it or not though.

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have been on TRT for 7 months and have been steadily losing weight about 1-2

pounds a month, morning wood has returned, libido thru the roof, losing belly.

But lost a great relationship because of ED, so can't say about how that or if

that part has improved.

 

________________________________

From: phil <phildude43@...>

Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 6:05:51 PM

Subject: Re: Question about weight and low T

 

It might have been me.I went from almost 6-2, 250's to 179 on a very low carb

way of eating.I still eat exactly the same way.But my test levels went just

below 300 and libido sucked.Since being on test for 8 mths I have muscled up

tremendously.Weight this morning was 194.Flat belly.33 waist from a 42. So I

went from a lean 179 to a lean 194 but now i am pretty ripped for someone almost

55.The low carbs got me looking good in clothes, now I look good naked.Far cry

from the fat, soft guy 18 mths ago. Phil

>

> I am curious how many here were losing weight, versus gaining weight while

suffering from low T,.......before you started TRT of course.

>

> Seems like one would be prone to gaining weight, but I remember one person

saying something about losing a tremendous amount before going on replacement

therapy. Wish I could remember who it was!

>

> I am getting 'mushy' in the chest and abdomen area, but overall my weight

seems to keep slowly dropping. Haven't changed any of my eating habits, and

short of this nagging sinus infection I have had for going on two weeks I am not

aware of anything else being wrong with me.

>

> Looks like I have lost another 5 pounds over the last month or so. I probably

have been eating less while I have been sick whether I realize it or not though.

>

[Guest guest]

________________________________

From: jim marshall <jimsd1@...>

Sent: Sat, June 26, 2010 12:13:41 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Question about weight and low T

 

Have been on TRT for 7 months and have been steadily losing weight about 1-2

pounds a month, morning wood has returned, libido thru the roof, losing belly.

But lost a great relationship because of ED, so can't say about how that or if

that part has improved.

 

________________________________

From: phil <phildude43@...>

Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 6:05:51 PM

Subject: Re: Question about weight and low T

 

It might have been me.I went from almost 6-2, 250's to 179 on a very low carb

way of eating.I still eat exactly the same way.But my test levels went just

below 300 and libido sucked.Since being on test for 8 mths I have muscled up

tremendously.Weight this morning was 194.Flat belly.33 waist from a 42. So I

went from a lean 179 to a lean 194 but now i am pretty ripped for someone almost

55.The low carbs got me looking good in clothes, now I look good naked.Far cry

from the fat, soft guy 18 mths ago. Phil

>

> I am curious how many here were losing weight, versus gaining weight while

suffering from low T,.......before you started TRT of course.

>

> Seems like one would be prone to gaining weight, but I remember one person

saying something about losing a tremendous amount before going on replacement

therapy. Wish I could remember who it was!

>

> I am getting 'mushy' in the chest and abdomen area, but overall my weight

seems to keep slowly dropping. Haven't changed any of my eating habits, and

short of this nagging sinus infection I have had for going on two weeks I am not

aware of anything else being wrong with me.

>

> Looks like I have lost another 5 pounds over the last month or so. I probably

have been eating less while I have been sick whether I realize it or not though.

>

[Guest guest]

Jim men don't lose a great relationship due to ED my wife and I got through it

for 10 yrs. I think if they are going to go bad they always find a reason for

this and ED is one. You might be better off.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jim marshall <jimsd1@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Question about weight and low T

>

> Date: Saturday, June 26, 2010, 12:13 PM

> Have been on TRT for 7 months and

> have been steadily losing weight about 1-2 pounds a month,

> morning wood has returned, libido thru the roof, losing

> belly. But lost a great relationship because of ED, so can't

> say about how that or if that part has improved.

>

>  

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: phil <phildude43@...>

>

> Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 6:05:51 PM

> Subject: Re: Question about weight and low

> T

>

>  

> It might have been me.I went from almost 6-2, 250's to 179

> on a very low carb way of eating.I still eat exactly the

> same way.But my test levels went just below 300 and libido

> sucked.Since being on test for 8 mths I have muscled up

> tremendously.Weight this morning was 194.Flat belly.33 waist

> from a 42. So I went from a lean 179 to a lean 194 but now i

> am pretty ripped for someone almost 55.The low carbs got me

> looking good in clothes, now I look good naked.Far cry from

> the fat, soft guy 18 mths ago. Phil

>

>

> >

> > I am curious how many here were losing weight, versus

> gaining weight while suffering from low T,.......before you

> started TRT of course.

> >

> > Seems like one would be prone to gaining weight, but I

> remember one person saying something about losing a

> tremendous amount before going on replacement therapy. Wish

> I could remember who it was!

> >

> > I am getting 'mushy' in the chest and abdomen area,

> but overall my weight seems to keep slowly dropping. Haven't

> changed any of my eating habits, and short of this nagging

> sinus infection I have had for going on two weeks I am not

> aware of anything else being wrong with me.

> >

> > Looks like I have lost another 5 pounds over the last

> month or so. I probably have been eating less while I have

> been sick whether I realize it or not though.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>      

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds like it was the 'other' Phil I was thinking of. Well you were on a

specific diet, so losing weight makes sense.

About 6 months ago I weighed about 195. I was six feet tall on the nose, but my

bad lower back has dropped me to 5'11 " over the past couple of years. At 195 I

was carrying too much fat around the gut area, so I dropped down to about 185

which is a pretty good weight for me.

Since then I have been losing a small amount on a regular basis, and now weigh

about 178. I seem to be so tired all the time that often I really don't feel

hungry, and force myself to eat. I guess because of that I am eating less than

normal even though it doesn't seem that way to me. I have lost muscle size in my

legs, as well as my arms so that is some of it too. Still have decent tone, but

the muscles are definitely getting smaller and weaker.

Who knows,......I may find out that I have a thyroid issue as well. I am looking

forward to getting the tests done after seeing the doc on 7/8.

[Guest guest]

No Thyroid one gains weight unless they are Hyper to high. I have seen this

before people lose weight and then can't stop losing. I think there Metabolic

rate goes why up and there body is burning up every thing you eat. I would love

to have this problem just try to eat force your self so your not tired all the

time take some B-12 and Vit. D with a Multi Vit. this helps.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Re: Question about weight and low T

>

> Date: Saturday, June 26, 2010, 12:36 PM

>

>

> Sounds like it was the 'other' Phil I was thinking of. Well

> you were on a specific diet, so losing weight makes sense.

>

> About 6 months ago I weighed about 195. I was six feet tall

> on the nose, but my bad lower back has dropped me to 5'11 "

> over the past couple of years. At 195 I was carrying too

> much fat around the gut area, so I dropped down to about 185

> which is a pretty good weight for me.

>

> Since then I have been losing a small amount on a regular

> basis, and now weigh about 178. I seem to be so tired all

> the time that often I really don't feel hungry, and force

> myself to eat. I guess because of that I am eating less than

> normal even though it doesn't seem that way to me. I have

> lost muscle size in my legs, as well as my arms so that is

> some of it too. Still have decent tone, but the muscles are

> definitely getting smaller and weaker.

>

> Who knows,......I may find out that I have a thyroid issue

> as well. I am looking forward to getting the tests done

> after seeing the doc on 7/8.

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Phil,.....I am thinking I might be 'hyper' if anything.

If not then it has to be related to my low T somehow, and the fact that I am so

tired after doing the physical work I have to do.

It's tough to stuff your face when it's 98 degrees, and about 105 with the heat

index added in. I eat my biggest meal in the evening for sure.

Mornings I don't eat much because I am heading out into the heat,......lunch I

don't eat much because I am in the heat. You get the drift.

You probably have a point about my metabolism though. Stress can make you burn

calories very fast, and I have plenty of that. It's far worse now with the

feelings of weakness and loss of strength from the low T, and the ration of

crapola I keep getting from docs.

While I don't want to get fat by any means, I really don't want to lose any more

weight at this point. My BMI is just now at the high end of normal, but I think

those things are made for scarecrows or something. To be midrange it says I

should weigh about 158,.......give me a break!

[Guest guest]

Marc,

In college, I dated a girl who was getting her masters in nutritional

science and she is now a nutritionist at the Olympic Training Center in

Colo. Springs. She always said that you should eat like a King at

breakfast, a prince at lunch and a popper at dinner. Meaning, eat your

biggest and highest caloric meal at breakfast and taper it down throughout

the day. This is the most natural and healthiest way to eat for your body.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:57 PM, marc200134470 <cfs38@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Phil,.....I am thinking I might be 'hyper' if anything.

> If not then it has to be related to my low T somehow, and the fact that I

> am so tired after doing the physical work I have to do.

>

> It's tough to stuff your face when it's 98 degrees, and about 105 with the

> heat index added in. I eat my biggest meal in the evening for sure.

> Mornings I don't eat much because I am heading out into the

> heat,......lunch I don't eat much because I am in the heat. You get the

> drift.

>

> You probably have a point about my metabolism though. Stress can make you

> burn calories very fast, and I have plenty of that. It's far worse now with

> the feelings of weakness and loss of strength from the low T, and the ration

> of crapola I keep getting from docs.

>

> While I don't want to get fat by any means, I really don't want to lose any

> more weight at this point. My BMI is just now at the high end of normal, but

> I think those things are made for scarecrows or something. To be midrange it

> says I should weigh about 158,.......give me a break!

>

>

>

--

Mike

[Guest guest]

Mike,....I know that is the consensus, but is just something I have never been

able to do. I don't like eating a lot in the morning due to the fact I get up so

early, and it makes me feel even more tired if I stuff my face before working.

I know I do things in reverse, plus I often eat quite late and go to bed soon

after. I am surprised that hasn't made me fat to be honest with you. I guess I

am a weird bird per se.

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Phil,.....I am thinking I might be 'hyper' if anything.

> > If not then it has to be related to my low T somehow, and the fact that I

> > am so tired after doing the physical work I have to do.

> >

> > It's tough to stuff your face when it's 98 degrees, and about 105 with the

> > heat index added in. I eat my biggest meal in the evening for sure.

> > Mornings I don't eat much because I am heading out into the

> > heat,......lunch I don't eat much because I am in the heat. You get the

> > drift.

> >

> > You probably have a point about my metabolism though. Stress can make you

> > burn calories very fast, and I have plenty of that. It's far worse now with

> > the feelings of weakness and loss of strength from the low T, and the ration

> > of crapola I keep getting from docs.

> >

> > While I don't want to get fat by any means, I really don't want to lose any

> > more weight at this point. My BMI is just now at the high end of normal, but

> > I think those things are made for scarecrows or something. To be midrange it

> > says I should weigh about 158,.......give me a break!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marc,

if the food you eat makes you tired, you may have a food allergy. The most

common being gluten. A lot of people are gluten sensitive and don't even

know it. Something you may want to consider investigating at some point.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 1:12 PM, marc200134470 <cfs38@...> wrote:

>

>

> Mike,....I know that is the consensus, but is just something I have never

> been able to do. I don't like eating a lot in the morning due to the fact I

> get up so early, and it makes me feel even more tired if I stuff my face

> before working.

>

> I know I do things in reverse, plus I often eat quite late and go to bed

> soon after. I am surprised that hasn't made me fat to be honest with you. I

> guess I am a weird bird per se.

>

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Phil,.....I am thinking I might be 'hyper' if anything.

> > > If not then it has to be related to my low T somehow, and the fact that

> I

> > > am so tired after doing the physical work I have to do.

> > >

> > > It's tough to stuff your face when it's 98 degrees, and about 105 with

> the

> > > heat index added in. I eat my biggest meal in the evening for sure.

> > > Mornings I don't eat much because I am heading out into the

> > > heat,......lunch I don't eat much because I am in the heat. You get the

> > > drift.

> > >

> > > You probably have a point about my metabolism though. Stress can make

> you

> > > burn calories very fast, and I have plenty of that. It's far worse now

> with

> > > the feelings of weakness and loss of strength from the low T, and the

> ration

> > > of crapola I keep getting from docs.

> > >

> > > While I don't want to get fat by any means, I really don't want to lose

> any

> > > more weight at this point. My BMI is just now at the high end of

> normal, but

> > > I think those things are made for scarecrows or something. To be

> midrange it

> > > says I should weigh about 158,.......give me a break!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That is great i am gonna try to lose weight as well go from 240-190ish lean and

get ready for surgery.. Plus i am going be on Hcg in a week as well for TRT.

Hopefully 100 iu ED is going to be just as great =]

> > >

> > > I am curious how many here were losing weight, versus

> > gaining weight while suffering from low T,.......before you

> > started TRT of course.

> > >

> > > Seems like one would be prone to gaining weight, but I

> > remember one person saying something about losing a

> > tremendous amount before going on replacement therapy. Wish

> > I could remember who it was!

> > >

> > > I am getting 'mushy' in the chest and abdomen area,

> > but overall my weight seems to keep slowly dropping. Haven't

> > changed any of my eating habits, and short of this nagging

> > sinus infection I have had for going on two weeks I am not

> > aware of anything else being wrong with me.

> > >

> > > Looks like I have lost another 5 pounds over the last

> > month or so. I probably have been eating less while I have

> > been sick whether I realize it or not though.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I don't remember but are you on HC for low Cortisol if not have this checked

first do a 4x's in a day Saliva test forgive me if we talked about this before I

talk to some many men I can't keep track.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Re: Question about weight and low T

>

> Date: Saturday, June 26, 2010, 2:57 PM

>

>

> Phil,.....I am thinking I might be 'hyper' if anything.

> If not then it has to be related to my low T somehow, and

> the fact that I am so tired after doing the physical work I

> have to do.

>

> It's tough to stuff your face when it's 98 degrees, and

> about 105 with the heat index added in. I eat my biggest

> meal in the evening for sure.

> Mornings I don't eat much because I am heading out into the

> heat,......lunch I don't eat much because I am in the heat.

> You get the drift.

>

> You probably have a point about my metabolism though.

> Stress can make you burn calories very fast, and I have

> plenty of that. It's far worse now with the feelings of

> weakness and loss of strength from the low T, and the ration

> of crapola I keep getting from docs.

>

> While I don't want to get fat by any means, I really don't

> want to lose any more weight at this point. My BMI is just

> now at the high end of normal, but I think those things are

> made for scarecrows or something. To be midrange it says I

> should weigh about 158,.......give me a break!

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

One thing that can help one pasted this is adding some Sea Salt to your water

first thing when you wake 1/2 tsp and drink it down if this helps do this upto

3x's a day. I have a 27oz canteen I do this allday long. My Body due to my bad

Adreanls dumps my sodium.

http://tinyurl.com/yky2mpn

http://www.eaec.org/bookstore/books/sywth-excerpt.htm

With all that heat your in this might help.

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> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Re: Question about weight and low T

>

> Date: Saturday, June 26, 2010, 3:12 PM

> Mike,....I know that is the

> consensus, but is just something I have never been able to

> do. I don't like eating a lot in the morning due to the fact

> I get up so early, and it makes me feel even more tired if I

> stuff my face before working.

>

> I know I do things in reverse, plus I often eat quite late

> and go to bed soon after. I am surprised that hasn't made me

> fat to be honest with you. I guess I am a weird bird per

> se.

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Phil,.....I am thinking I might be 'hyper' if

> anything.

> > > If not then it has to be related to my low T

> somehow, and the fact that I

> > > am so tired after doing the physical work I have

> to do.

> > >

> > > It's tough to stuff your face when it's 98

> degrees, and about 105 with the

> > > heat index added in. I eat my biggest meal in the

> evening for sure.

> > > Mornings I don't eat much because I am heading

> out into the

> > > heat,......lunch I don't eat much because I am in

> the heat. You get the

> > > drift.

> > >

> > > You probably have a point about my metabolism

> though. Stress can make you

> > > burn calories very fast, and I have plenty of

> that. It's far worse now with

> > > the feelings of weakness and loss of strength

> from the low T, and the ration

> > > of crapola I keep getting from docs.

> > >

> > > While I don't want to get fat by any means, I

> really don't want to lose any

> > > more weight at this point. My BMI is just now at

> the high end of normal, but

> > > I think those things are made for scarecrows or

> something. To be midrange it

> > > says I should weigh about 158,.......give me a

> break!

> > >

> > > 

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

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>

> >

> >

> > Mike,....I know that is the consensus, but is just

> something I have never

> > been able to do. I don't like eating a lot in the

> morning due to the fact I

> > get up so early, and it makes me feel even more tired

> if I stuff my face

> > before working.

> >

> > I know I do things in reverse, plus I often eat quite

> late and go to bed

> > soon after. I am surprised that hasn't made me fat to

> be honest with you. I

> > guess I am a weird bird per se.

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Phil,.....I am thinking I might be 'hyper'

> if anything.

> > > > If not then it has to be related to my low T

> somehow, and the fact that

> > I

> > > > am so tired after doing the physical work I

> have to do.

> > > >

> > > > It's tough to stuff your face when it's 98

> degrees, and about 105 with

> > the

> > > > heat index added in. I eat my biggest meal

> in the evening for sure.

> > > > Mornings I don't eat much because I am

> heading out into the

> > > > heat,......lunch I don't eat much because I

> am in the heat. You get the

> > > > drift.

> > > >

> > > > You probably have a point about my

> metabolism though. Stress can make

> > you

> > > > burn calories very fast, and I have plenty

> of that. It's far worse now

> > with

> > > > the feelings of weakness and loss of

> strength from the low T, and the

> > ration

> > > > of crapola I keep getting from docs.

> > > >

> > > > While I don't want to get fat by any means,

> I really don't want to lose

> > any

> > > > more weight at this point. My BMI is just

> now at the high end of

> > normal, but

> > > > I think those things are made for scarecrows

> or something. To be

> > midrange it

> > > > says I should weigh about 158,.......give me

> a break!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Mike

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> >

> > 

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>

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Phil

> From: rickwalia <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Question about weight and low T

>

> Date: Saturday, June 26, 2010, 3:26 PM

> That is great i am gonna try to lose

> weight as well go from 240-190ish lean and get ready for

> surgery.. Plus i am going be on Hcg in a week as well for

> TRT. Hopefully 100 iu ED is going to be just as great =]

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I am curious how many here were losing

> weight, versus

> > > gaining weight while suffering from low

> T,.......before you

> > > started TRT of course.

> > > >

> > > > Seems like one would be prone to gaining

> weight, but I

> > > remember one person saying something about losing

> a

> > > tremendous amount before going on replacement

> therapy. Wish

> > > I could remember who it was!

> > > >

> > > > I am getting 'mushy' in the chest and

> abdomen area,

> > > but overall my weight seems to keep slowly

> dropping. Haven't

> > > changed any of my eating habits, and short of

> this nagging

> > > sinus infection I have had for going on two weeks

> I am not

> > > aware of anything else being wrong with me.

> > > >

> > > > Looks like I have lost another 5 pounds over

> the last

> > > month or so. I probably have been eating less

> while I have

> > > been sick whether I realize it or not though.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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Yep I remember now.

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Phil

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Re: Question about weight and low T

>

> Date: Saturday, June 26, 2010, 4:22 PM

> Phil,.....if you are talking to me, I

> am on nothing at this point.

> Still trying to get the proper tests and the right

> treatment.

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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> > > > >

> > > > > I am curious how many here were losing

> > weight, versus

> > > > gaining weight while suffering from low

> > T,.......before you

> > > > started TRT of course.

> > > > >

> > > > > Seems like one would be prone to gaining

> > weight, but I

> > > > remember one person saying something about losing

> > a

> > > > tremendous amount before going on replacement

> > therapy. Wish

> > > > I could remember who it was!

> > > > >

> > > > > I am getting 'mushy' in the chest and

> > abdomen area,

> > > > but overall my weight seems to keep slowly

> > dropping. Haven't

> > > > changed any of my eating habits, and short of

> > this nagging

> > > > sinus infection I have had for going on two weeks

> > I am not

> > > > aware of anything else being wrong with me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Looks like I have lost another 5 pounds over

> > the last

> > > > month or so. I probably have been eating less

> > while I have

> > > > been sick whether I realize it or not though.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >