Re: Can't lose weight on test cyp?

[Guest guest]

Thanks Phil

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From: Koala

> > <cuddling@>

> > > > > > > > Subject: Can't

> > lose

> > > > weight on test

> > > > > > cyp?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, August 18,

> > 2010, 12:58

> > > > PM

> > > > > > > > For about six months I've

> > been eating

> > > > > > > > 1400 calories/day with 1

> > cheat day a

> > > > week, and

> > > > > > losing an

> > > > > > > > average of 2 pounds/week. 3

> > weeks ago

> > > > I've

> > > > > > started at 100mg

> > > > > > > > of testosterone cypionate/2

> > weeks. I

> > > > got rid of

> > > > > > my cheat

> > > > > > > > days but I still can't lose

> > any weight.

> > > > I've lost

> > > > > > 1 pound in

> > > > > > > > 3 weeks--and I still have a

> > good amount

> > > > to lose.

> > > > > > Any ideas

> > > > > > > > what is going on?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

oops, sorry for the confusion.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i am under the impression, estradial is the culprit. Estrogen

requires

> > > >fat to be stored, and with extra estrogen, your body will

> > > > > > > put on fat to store it. I have good luck with fifty mgs weekly and

use

> > > >Altraz, arimidex to keep my estrogen count down. I take half a pill daily

until

> > > >my night time erections become firm, then lay off until I begin to lose

night

> > > >time erections, then begin again.

> > > > > > > You can order from alldaychemist.com, they have the best prices,

but

> > > >their shipping is high, so order a lot when you do to justify the costs.

> > > > > > > It may well be, that a hundred bi-weekly, of " T " shots which is a

> > > >relatively hi dose, is causing your estrogen count to be high, over

thirty, in

> > > >which case your body is holding onto the fat to keep the estrogen.

> > > >

> > > > > > > I have good luck losing weight, taking hundred fifty units of HCG

> > > >nightly, it keeps my T count in good order, and does not raise my

estrogen

> > > >count. But it is relatively easy for me to lose weight. I also cut most

of the

> > > >carbs out, bread potatoes etc. Like the Atkins Diet, although I am told

the

> > > >south sea diet is also very good. I take a dose of whey, milk protein,

for

> > > >breakfast, mixed with water for that meal, obviously buy the low fat

type. It

> > > >keeps the hunger pains away until lunch.

> > > >

> > > > > > > I spent ten years working with diets, this was before we had a

drug to

> > > >lower estrogen, out of a huge curiousity, I would like to hear back as to

how

> > > >you are doing, thanks

> > > >

> > > > > > > stay healthy, david a

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From: cuddling@

> > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:58:48 +0000

> > > > > > > > Subject: Can't lose weight on test cyp?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For about six months I've been eating 1400 calories/day with 1

cheat

> > > >day a week, and losing an average of 2 pounds/week. 3 weeks ago I've

started at

> > > >100mg of testosterone cypionate/2 weeks. I got rid of my cheat days but I

still

> > > >can't lose any weight. I've lost 1 pound in 3 weeks--and I still have a

good

> > > >amount to lose. Any ideas what is going on?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

, remember most restrict their caloric intake to 500 a day while using

HCG.OK to jump start a wt loss, but hard to keep up.Can easily lose 15-20 lbs in

a month.But then you are going to have to increase calories for energy at some

point.A diet that doesn't address controlling hunger is easily broken.Doing the

hcg diet for a month then advance into a severely carb restricted diet should

control hunger, and keep the wt loss on going. Phil

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > i am under the impression, estradial is the

> > culprit.  Estrogen requires fat to be stored, and with

> > extra estrogen, your body will

> > > > put on fat to store it.  I have good luck

> > with fifty mgs weekly and use Altraz, arimidex to keep my

> > estrogen count down.  I take half a pill daily until my

> > night time erections become firm, then lay off until I begin

> > to lose night time erections, then begin again.

> > > > You can order from alldaychemist.com, they have

> > the best prices, but their shipping is high, so order a lot

> > when you do to justify the costs.

> > > > It may well be, that a hundred bi-weekly, of " T "

> > shots which is a relatively hi dose, is causing your

> > estrogen count to be high, over thirty, in which case your

> > body is holding onto the fat to keep the estrogen.

> > > > I have good luck losing weight, taking hundred

> > fifty units of HCG nightly, it keeps my T count in good

> > order, and does not raise my estrogen count.  But it is

> > relatively easy for me to lose weight.  I also cut most

> > of the carbs out, bread potatoes etc.  Like the Atkins

> > Diet, although I am told the south sea diet is also very

> > good.  I take a dose of whey, milk protein, for

> > breakfast, mixed with water for that meal, obviously buy the

> > low fat type.  It keeps the hunger pains away until

> > lunch.

> > > > I spent ten years working with diets, this was

> > before we had a drug to lower estrogen, out of a huge

> > curiousity, I would like to hear back as to how you are

> > doing, thanks 

> > > > stay healthy, david a

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > From: cuddling@

> > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:58:48 +0000

> > > > > Subject: Can't lose weight on

> > test cyp?

> > > > >

> > > > > For about six months I've been eating 1400

> > calories/day with 1 cheat day a week, and losing an average

> > of 2 pounds/week. 3 weeks ago I've started at 100mg of

> > testosterone cypionate/2 weeks. I got rid of my cheat days

> > but I still can't lose any weight. I've lost 1 pound in 3

> > weeks--and I still have a good amount to lose. Any ideas

> > what is going on?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I'm using 250 every 3 days. It's allowed me to drop my Androgel to 7.5 to 5 mg

daily. It's paying for itself by what I save on Androgel.

Ed T

________________________________

From: ed <edhill_2006@...>

Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 3:06:36 PM

Subject: Re: Can't lose weight on test cyp?

Ed, are you using hCG???

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > i am under the impression, estradial is the culprit. Estrogen requires

> >fat to be stored, and with extra estrogen, your body will

> > > > > put on fat to store it. I have good luck with fifty mgs weekly and use

> >Altraz, arimidex to keep my estrogen count down. I take half a pill daily

>until

>

> >my night time erections become firm, then lay off until I begin to lose night

> >time erections, then begin again.

> > > > > You can order from alldaychemist.com, they have the best prices, but

> >their shipping is high, so order a lot when you do to justify the costs.

> > > > > It may well be, that a hundred bi-weekly, of " T " shots which is a

> >relatively hi dose, is causing your estrogen count to be high, over thirty,

in

>

> >which case your body is holding onto the fat to keep the estrogen.

> >

> > > > > I have good luck losing weight, taking hundred fifty units of HCG

> >nightly, it keeps my T count in good order, and does not raise my estrogen

> >count. But it is relatively easy for me to lose weight. I also cut most of

the

>

> >carbs out, bread potatoes etc. Like the Atkins Diet, although I am told the

> >south sea diet is also very good. I take a dose of whey, milk protein, for

> >breakfast, mixed with water for that meal, obviously buy the low fat type. It

> >keeps the hunger pains away until lunch.

> >

> > > > > I spent ten years working with diets, this was before we had a drug to

> >lower estrogen, out of a huge curiousity, I would like to hear back as to how

> >you are doing, thanks

> >

> > > > > stay healthy, david a

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: cuddling@

> > > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:58:48 +0000

> > > > > > Subject: Can't lose weight on test cyp?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For about six months I've been eating 1400 calories/day with 1 cheat

> >day a week, and losing an average of 2 pounds/week. 3 weeks ago I've started

>at

>

> >100mg of testosterone cypionate/2 weeks. I got rid of my cheat days but I

>still

>

> >can't lose any weight. I've lost 1 pound in 3 weeks--and I still have a good

> >amount to lose. Any ideas what is going on?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I hear you and felt the same thing until I read Dr. Simeon's HCG Protocol down

load the PDF at this link and read about the diet you do have support after you

lose the weight.

http://4hcgsuccess.com/hcg-protocol

People are losing the weight and keeping it off.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: phil <phildude43@...>

> Subject: Re: Can't lose weight on test cyp?

>

> Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 8:36 PM

> , remember most restrict their

> caloric intake to 500 a day while using HCG.OK to jump start

> a wt loss, but hard to keep up.Can easily lose 15-20 lbs in

> a month.But then you are going to have to increase calories

> for energy at some point.A diet that doesn't address

> controlling hunger is easily broken.Doing the hcg diet for a

> month then advance into a severely carb restricted diet

> should control hunger, and keep the wt loss on going. 

>    Phil

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > i am under the impression, estradial is

> the

> > > culprit.  Estrogen requires fat to be stored,

> and with

> > > extra estrogen, your body will

> > > > > put on fat to store it.  I have good

> luck

> > > with fifty mgs weekly and use Altraz, arimidex to

> keep my

> > > estrogen count down.  I take half a pill daily

> until my

> > > night time erections become firm, then lay off

> until I begin

> > > to lose night time erections, then begin again.

> > > > > You can order from alldaychemist.com,

> they have

> > > the best prices, but their shipping is high, so

> order a lot

> > > when you do to justify the costs.

> > > > > It may well be, that a hundred

> bi-weekly, of " T "

> > > shots which is a relatively hi dose, is causing

> your

> > > estrogen count to be high, over thirty, in which

> case your

> > > body is holding onto the fat to keep the

> estrogen.

> > > > > I have good luck losing weight, taking

> hundred

> > > fifty units of HCG nightly, it keeps my T count

> in good

> > > order, and does not raise my estrogen count. 

> But it is

> > > relatively easy for me to lose weight.  I also

> cut most

> > > of the carbs out, bread potatoes etc.  Like the

> Atkins

> > > Diet, although I am told the south sea diet is

> also very

> > > good.  I take a dose of whey, milk protein, for

> > > breakfast, mixed with water for that meal,

> obviously buy the

> > > low fat type.  It keeps the hunger pains away

> until

> > > lunch.

> > > > > I spent ten years working with diets,

> this was

> > > before we had a drug to lower estrogen, out of a

> huge

> > > curiousity, I would like to hear back as to how

> you are

> > > doing, thanks 

> > > > > stay healthy, david a

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: cuddling@

> > > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:58:48

> +0000

> > > > > > Subject: Can't lose

> weight on

> > > test cyp?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For about six months I've been

> eating 1400

> > > calories/day with 1 cheat day a week, and losing

> an average

> > > of 2 pounds/week. 3 weeks ago I've started at

> 100mg of

> > > testosterone cypionate/2 weeks. I got rid of my

> cheat days

> > > but I still can't lose any weight. I've lost 1

> pound in 3

> > > weeks--and I still have a good amount to lose.

> Any ideas

> > > what is going on?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Ok, I'm using 150 IU's every day. But I am not on Test.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i am under the impression, estradial is the culprit. Estrogen

requires

>

> > >fat to be stored, and with extra estrogen, your body will

> > > > > > put on fat to store it. I have good luck with fifty mgs weekly and

use

>

> > >Altraz, arimidex to keep my estrogen count down. I take half a pill daily

> >until

> >

> > >my night time erections become firm, then lay off until I begin to lose

night

>

> > >time erections, then begin again.

> > > > > > You can order from alldaychemist.com, they have the best prices, but

> > >their shipping is high, so order a lot when you do to justify the costs.

> > > > > > It may well be, that a hundred bi-weekly, of " T " shots which is a

> > >relatively hi dose, is causing your estrogen count to be high, over thirty,

in

> >

> > >which case your body is holding onto the fat to keep the estrogen.

> > >

> > > > > > I have good luck losing weight, taking hundred fifty units of HCG

> > >nightly, it keeps my T count in good order, and does not raise my estrogen

> > >count. But it is relatively easy for me to lose weight. I also cut most of

the

> >

> > >carbs out, bread potatoes etc. Like the Atkins Diet, although I am told the

> > >south sea diet is also very good. I take a dose of whey, milk protein, for

> > >breakfast, mixed with water for that meal, obviously buy the low fat type.

It

>

> > >keeps the hunger pains away until lunch.

> > >

> > > > > > I spent ten years working with diets, this was before we had a drug

to

>

> > >lower estrogen, out of a huge curiousity, I would like to hear back as to

how

>

> > >you are doing, thanks

> > >

> > > > > > stay healthy, david a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: cuddling@

> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:58:48 +0000

> > > > > > > Subject: Can't lose weight on test cyp?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For about six months I've been eating 1400 calories/day with 1

cheat

>

> > >day a week, and losing an average of 2 pounds/week. 3 weeks ago I've

started

> >at

> >

> > >100mg of testosterone cypionate/2 weeks. I got rid of my cheat days but I

> >still

> >

> > >can't lose any weight. I've lost 1 pound in 3 weeks--and I still have a

good

> > >amount to lose. Any ideas what is going on?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

If you haven't had to take arimidex, how are you controlling your E2???

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i am under the impression, estradial is the culprit. Estrogen

requires

>

> > >fat to be stored, and with extra estrogen, your body will

> > > > > > put on fat to store it. I have good luck with fifty mgs weekly and

use

>

> > >Altraz, arimidex to keep my estrogen count down. I take half a pill daily

> >until

> >

> > >my night time erections become firm, then lay off until I begin to lose

night

>

> > >time erections, then begin again.

> > > > > > You can order from alldaychemist.com, they have the best prices, but

> > >their shipping is high, so order a lot when you do to justify the costs.

> > > > > > It may well be, that a hundred bi-weekly, of " T " shots which is a

> > >relatively hi dose, is causing your estrogen count to be high, over thirty,

in

> >

> > >which case your body is holding onto the fat to keep the estrogen.

> > >

> > > > > > I have good luck losing weight, taking hundred fifty units of HCG

> > >nightly, it keeps my T count in good order, and does not raise my estrogen

> > >count. But it is relatively easy for me to lose weight. I also cut most of

the

> >

> > >carbs out, bread potatoes etc. Like the Atkins Diet, although I am told the

> > >south sea diet is also very good. I take a dose of whey, milk protein, for

> > >breakfast, mixed with water for that meal, obviously buy the low fat type.

It

>

> > >keeps the hunger pains away until lunch.

> > >

> > > > > > I spent ten years working with diets, this was before we had a drug

to

>

> > >lower estrogen, out of a huge curiousity, I would like to hear back as to

how

>

> > >you are doing, thanks

> > >

> > > > > > stay healthy, david a

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: cuddling@

> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:58:48 +0000

> > > > > > > Subject: Can't lose weight on test cyp?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For about six months I've been eating 1400 calories/day with 1

cheat

>

> > >day a week, and losing an average of 2 pounds/week. 3 weeks ago I've

started

> >at

> >

> > >100mg of testosterone cypionate/2 weeks. I got rid of my cheat days but I

> >still

> >

> > >can't lose any weight. I've lost 1 pound in 3 weeks--and I still have a

good

> > >amount to lose. Any ideas what is going on?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >