Re: Does anyone know what this means?

[Guest guest]

Sandy, that's one of the other things Lott said during the debate.

Makes no sense to me, vote no pass it, and then we'll fix it.

> This from the New York Times:

>

> " Maine's two moderate Republican senators, and Olympia

> Snowe, and Sen. Lincoln Chafee, R-R.I., said they voted against the

> amendment only after receiving assurances from Lott that he would work

> next year to remove three of the provisions, including one that gives

> protections to pharmaceutical companies that have already been sued over

> health problems allegedly caused by vaccines. The senators said they

> also contacted House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., traveling in

> Turkey, to win his promises that the provisions would be eliminated. "

>

> http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Congress-Homeland-Security.h

> tml

>

> Sandy Mintz

> http://www.vaccinationnews.com

> http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/past_scandals.htm

>

> http://www.whale.to

> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> http://www.909shot.com

> http://www.redflagsweekly.com

> http://home.san.rr.com/via/

> http://www.vaccine-info.com

> http://healing-arts.org/children/vaccines/

>

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> DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE

> AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR

> HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.

>

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[Guest guest]

I'll believe that when I see it.

Is that 'oh no, I won't get you pregnant?' or any of the other things I

could also add?

Sheri

At 05:23 PM 11/19/2002 -0000, you wrote:

>Sandy, that's one of the other things Lott said during the debate.

>Makes no sense to me, vote no pass it, and then we'll fix it.

>

>

>

>

>> This from the New York Times:

>>

>> " Maine's two moderate Republican senators, and Olympia

>> Snowe, and Sen. Lincoln Chafee, R-R.I., said they voted against the

>> amendment only after receiving assurances from Lott that he would work

>> next year to remove three of the provisions, including one that gives

>> protections to pharmaceutical companies that have already been sued over

>> health problems allegedly caused by vaccines. The senators said they

>> also contacted House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., traveling in

>> Turkey, to win his promises that the provisions would be eliminated. "

>>

>> http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Congress-Homeland-Security.h

>> tml

>>

>> Sandy Mintz

>> http://www.vaccinationnews.com

>> http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/past_scandals.htm

>>

>> http://www.whale.to

>> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

>> http://www.909shot.com

>> http://www.redflagsweekly.com

>> http://home.san.rr.com/via/

>> http://www.vaccine-info.com

>> http://healing-arts.org/children/vaccines/

>>

>> ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED

>> HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED

>> AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO

>> BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

>> DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE

>> AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR

>> HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.

>>

>> IN ADDITION, THE FACT THAT THIS EMAIL HAS BEEN FORWARDED IN NO WAY

>> NECESSARILY IMPLIES ENDORSEMENT OF THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE AUTHOR OR

>> AUTHORS OF THE ARTICLE OR EMAIL.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandi I looked it up and here is what I found about the thecal

sac.

The thecal sac is a protective membrane that covers the spinal cord

and cauda equine and contains cerebrospinal fluid that provides

nutrition to the spinal cord. The membrane is composed of several

layers: the outermost is the dura mater, the middle layer is the

arachnoid mater and the inner layer is called the pia mater. The

thecal sac is separated from the wall of the vertebral canal by the

epidural space, which contains epidural fat.

The second part is in this part.

The cervical spine is made up of seven cervical vertebrae. The main

function of the cervical spine is to support the weight of the head

which is approximately 10-12 pounds. The cervical spine has the

greatest range of motion, in part because there are two specialized

vertebra that move with the skull. Cervical vertebrae are the

smallest of the vertebrae. The first cervical vertebra is called the

atlas and is significantly different from the other vertebrae. It is

ring-like in shape with two large protrusions on the sides to

support the weight of the head. The second cervical vertebra is

called the axis.The axis is also unique in that it has a bony peg-

like protrusion, called the dens or odontoid on its upper surface

that fits within the ring of the atlas. The curve of the neck is

described as a lordosis or lordotic curve, and looks like a " C " in

reverse

if you are interested here is where I found it. The anatomy of the

spine

http://www.spine.org/fsp/anatomy-functions.cfm

hope this helps so you can figure out what to ask your dr. Sharon

Group Owner

>

> I just got the results back from the CT scan of my neck. The

report

> states:

>

> " Osteophytes impinging upon the central and right paracentral

portion

> of the thecal sac at the C3-C4 level. "

>

> " There is mild narrowing of the C6-C7 disc space. There is a well

> circumscribed osteosclerotic lesion within the base of the dens "

>

> My appointment with my surgeon is not until 1/10. Can anyone help

> describe this in everyday language? If so, suggestions on what

> questions I should be asking.

>

> Thanks so much.

>

> Best wishes for a Happy, Healthy New Year!!

>

> Sandi

>

[Guest guest]

I can't help you understand the report. What I would recommend is

finding another, more caring doctor. That's absurd of him, and very

unprofessional, to discount your daily pain because you did not

describe it as " agony " . I would suggest that you take the MRI

findings to another doctor ASAP.

>

> Hi, I got my second MRI back today and ofcourse the doctor only

told

> me that my discs are protruding but the other stuff, I don't

> understand it.

> 1. Relative straightening of the cervical spine

> 2. At c3-4 Right lateral disc protrusion associated with mild

> spondylosis cousing some focal efffacement of the thecal sac

laterally

> on the right and causing encroachment of the right neural forament

> proximally.

> 3. C5-6 Evidence of a left paracentral and lateral disc protrusion

> that also apperars to be associated with mild spondylosis that is

> causing focal effacement of the thecal sac paracentrally to the

left

> of the midline and encroachment of the left neural foramen

proximally.

> 4. C6-7 There is mild broad-based disc bulging causing mild ventral

> effabement of the thecal sac.

>

> The doctor said that although I am in pain, there are people at

pain

> care specialists with cronic pain who are in agony. He acted as it

> all of this is not a big deal as long as my cord is not

compressed.

> He did say that it was " tight " in there. This has been going on

for

> me since January 06 and I am in pain every day and no one will

expain

> all of this to me. Can you help?

> fraft13

>

[Guest guest]

frati13, i recently had a doctor tell me that my pain was caused by

depression and get off all meds. some doctors are just real assholes. i would

urge

you to find yourself a doctor who will really talk to you and then get 3 more

opinions.

pain sucks, bigtime. and doctors need to be more responsive. i am in new

york city and i have been fortunate in that the doctors i stay with take me

seriously.

maybe if you say what city you are in, someone might be able to suggest a

good doctor. my best to you, marsha

[Guest guest]

I gotta agree on this! Not every doc out there is good, that's a sad

thing to say but true. As a nurse I've seen plenty that should have

been plumbers. The good side is, YOU are the customer and you can

choose to go somewhere else. Remember that. Darlene

> >

> > Hi, I got my second MRI back today and ofcourse the doctor only

> told

> > me that my discs are protruding but the other stuff, I don't

> > understand it.

> > 1. Relative straightening of the cervical spine

> > 2. At c3-4 Right lateral disc protrusion associated with mild

> > spondylosis cousing some focal efffacement of the thecal sac

> laterally

> > on the right and causing encroachment of the right neural

forament

> > proximally.

> > 3. C5-6 Evidence of a left paracentral and lateral disc

protrusion

> > that also apperars to be associated with mild spondylosis that

is

> > causing focal effacement of the thecal sac paracentrally to the

> left

> > of the midline and encroachment of the left neural foramen

> proximally.

> > 4. C6-7 There is mild broad-based disc bulging causing mild

ventral

> > effabement of the thecal sac.

> >

> > The doctor said that although I am in pain, there are people at

> pain

> > care specialists with cronic pain who are in agony. He acted as

it

> > all of this is not a big deal as long as my cord is not

> compressed.

> > He did say that it was " tight " in there. This has been going on

> for

> > me since January 06 and I am in pain every day and no one will

> expain

> > all of this to me. Can you help?

> > fraft13

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No, I believe it means morphine has an initial, brief anti-seizure effect which disappears after prolonged use (tolerance). They were testing to see if the adding naltrexone to the mix would prevent that tolerance. The key result sentence is, "Both the development and expression of tolerance were inhibited by ultra-low doses of naltrexone"From: croyston@... <croyston@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Does anyone know what this means?low dose naltrexone Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 3:38 PM

I found it on PubMed. I am wondering if it means LDN lower seizure thresholds.

SUMMARY: The present study evaluated the development of tolerance to the anticonvulsant effect of morphine in a mouse model of clonic seizures induced by pentylenetetrazole, and whether ultra-low doses of the opioid receptor antagonist naltrexone which selectively block G(s) opioid receptors were capable of preventing the observed tolerance. The results showed that the morphine anticonvulsant effect could be subject to tolerance after repeated administration. Both the development and expression of tolerance were inhibited by ultra-low doses of naltrexone, suggesting the possible involvement of G(s)-coupled opioid receptors in the development of tolerance to the anticonvulsant effect of morphine.

[Guest guest]

THANKS! From: gretchen brummel <gretchen622@...>low dose naltrexone ; "croyston@..." <croyston@...>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:50:55 PMSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Does anyone know what this means?

No, I believe it means morphine has an initial, brief anti-seizure effect which disappears after prolonged use (tolerance). They were testing to see if the adding naltrexone to the mix would prevent that tolerance. The key result sentence is, "Both the development and expression of tolerance were inhibited by ultra-low doses of naltrexone"From: croyston@... <croyston@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Does anyone

know what this means?low dose naltrexone Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 3:38 PM

I found it on PubMed. I am wondering if it means LDN lower seizure thresholds.

SUMMARY: The present study evaluated the development of tolerance to the anticonvulsant effect of morphine in a mouse model of clonic seizures induced by pentylenetetrazole, and whether ultra-low doses of the opioid receptor antagonist naltrexone which selectively block G(s) opioid receptors were capable of preventing the observed tolerance. The results showed that the morphine anticonvulsant effect could be subject to tolerance after repeated administration. Both the development and expression of tolerance were inhibited by ultra-low doses of naltrexone, suggesting the possible involvement of G(s)-coupled opioid receptors in the development of tolerance to the anticonvulsant effect of morphine.