Re: Statins and low T??

May 7, 2010

Low T is just one of the many horrible sides caused by statins--memory

loss, cognitive impairment, muscle damage, etc. are other biggies...

In a message dated 5/7/2010 1:41:38 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

no_reply writes:

Statins and Low T?? I've been on statins for a few years for high

cholesterol and I've come across a few recent studies that suggest men who take

statins may also have low T. I'm considering starting TRT therapy soon but was

wondering if it would be a good idea to stop taking statins to see if my T

levels go up. I can't seem to remember if I had low T symptoms before I

started on statins but I probably did. Also, I have read that there is some

relationship between Low T and high cholesterol. Anyone else who may have

more info on this topic would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Here is artice about statins and low T

_http://www.webmd.http://www.wehttp://www.whttp://www.webhttp://www.whttp://

www.webmdhttp://ww_

(http://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/news/20100416/statins_may_lower_testo\

sterone_libido)

May 8, 2010

Yes this is a dam shame but if you had Heart By-Pass sugary and Dr.'s tell you

you need this to live what can you do.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: WithBACON@... <WithBACON@...>

> Subject: Re: Statins and low T??

>

> Date: Saturday, May 8, 2010, 2:50 AM

>

> Low T is just one of the many horrible sides caused by

> statins--memory

> loss, cognitive impairment, muscle damage, etc. are other

> biggies...

>

> In a message dated 5/7/2010 1:41:38 P.M. US Mountain

> Standard Time,

> no_reply

> writes:

>

> Statins and Low T?? I've been on statins for a few years

> for high

> cholesterol and I've come across a few recent studies that

> suggest men who take

> statins may also have low T. I'm considering starting TRT

> therapy soon but was

> wondering if it would be a good idea to stop taking statins

> to see if my T

> levels go up. I can't seem to remember if I had low T

> symptoms before I

> started on statins but I probably did. Also, I have read

> that there is some

> relationship between Low T and high cholesterol. Anyone

> else who may have

> more info on this topic would be much appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Here is artice about statins and low T

>

> _http://www.webmd.http://www.wehttp://www.whttp://www.webhttp://www.whttp://

> www.webmdhttp://ww_

>

(http://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/news/20100416/statins_may_lower_testo\

sterone_libido)

>

May 8, 2010

The jury is still out on statins.What really causes cardiovascular disease? I

took them for a while because my triglcerides were high and HDL was low.Overall

choelesterol was borderline high.Quit them and now eat 80% saturated fat diet

for past 1 1/2 years.No fruit or vegeatable matter.Just meat.Triglcerides are in

30's HDL over 100 and VLDP have bottomed out.My dr just shakes his head and says

it goes against everything he has been taught but continue on.And going from

sloppy fat 270 to a lean 190 is a bonus.I'm no nutrition expert but I suspect we

may been told some bogus info by deep pockets (drug companies) for a long

time.Maybe it's not the fat ot high total cholesterol.What about the processed

carbs with resultant high triglceride levels.Resulting in an inflammatory

reponse in out vessels and leading to plaque buildup.Low fat diet and statins

just kept me fat and soft.Just one mans opinion.Phil

>

> Statins and Low T?? I've been on statins for a few years for high cholesterol

and I've come across a few recent studies that suggest men who take statins may

also have low T. I'm considering starting TRT therapy soon but was wondering if

it would be a good idea to stop taking statins to see if my T levels go up. I

can't seem to remember if I had low T symptoms before I started on statins but I

probably did. Also, I have read that there is some relationship between Low T

and high cholesterol. Anyone else who may have more info on this topic would be

much appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Here is artice about statins and low T

>

http://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/news/20100416/statins_may_lower_testos\

terone_libido

>

May 8, 2010

I never had bad labs for Chol. yet I needed Heart By-Pass Sugary. Dr.'s tell me

it was the low hormones that might have done this yet they keep me on Statins

and my labs now are below normal and Dr.'s are happy with them.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: phil <phildude43@...>

> Subject: Re: Statins and low T??

>

> Date: Saturday, May 8, 2010, 10:31 AM

> The jury is still out on statins.What

> really causes cardiovascular disease? I took them for a

> while because my triglcerides were high and HDL was

> low.Overall choelesterol was borderline high.Quit them and

> now eat 80% saturated fat diet for past 1 1/2 years.No fruit

> or vegeatable matter.Just meat.Triglcerides are in 30's HDL

> over 100 and VLDP have bottomed out.My dr just shakes his

> head and says it goes against everything he has been taught

> but continue on.And going from sloppy fat 270 to a lean 190

> is a bonus.I'm no nutrition expert but I suspect we may been

> told some bogus info by deep pockets (drug companies) for a

> long time.Maybe it's not the fat ot high total

> cholesterol.What about the processed carbs with resultant

> high triglceride levels.Resulting in an inflammatory reponse

> in out vessels and leading to plaque buildup.Low fat diet

> and statins just kept me fat and soft.Just one mans

> opinion.Phil

>

> >

> > Statins and Low T?? I've been on statins for a few

> years for high cholesterol and I've come across a few recent

> studies that suggest men who take statins may also have low

> T. I'm considering starting TRT therapy soon but was

> wondering if it would be a good idea to stop taking statins

> to see if my T levels go up. I can't seem to remember if I

> had low T symptoms before I started on statins but I

> probably did. Also, I have read that there is some

> relationship between Low T and high cholesterol. Anyone else

> who may have more info on this topic would be much

> appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Here is artice about statins and low T

> >

http://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/news/20100416/statins_may_lower_testos\

terone_libido

> >

>

> ------------------------------------

>

May 8, 2010

I may decide to run a little experiment on myself before I start TRT.I was

thinking of going off the statins for a few months and then retesting my T

levels to see if they have improved. If I start on TRT right now there will be

no way to see if the statins caused my T levels to drop.

> > >

> > > Statins and Low T?? I've been on statins for a few

> > years for high cholesterol and I've come across a few recent

> > studies that suggest men who take statins may also have low

> > T. I'm considering starting TRT therapy soon but was

> > wondering if it would be a good idea to stop taking statins

> > to see if my T levels go up. I can't seem to remember if I

> > had low T symptoms before I started on statins but I

> > probably did. Also, I have read that there is some

> > relationship between Low T and high cholesterol. Anyone else

> > who may have more info on this topic would be much

> > appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Here is artice about statins and low T

> > >

http://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/news/20100416/statins_may_lower_testos\

terone_libido

> > >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

May 8, 2010

If you want to check you better do it now,......after you start you will never

know as you said.

I am also trying to find out all I can first, but I can't keep feeling this way

for many more months. The fatigue is absolutely unbelievable to me.

Everything I have to do that is physical makes me feel shot in the rear when I

am done. This sucks for sure.

> > > >

> > > > Statins and Low T?? I've been on statins for a few

> > > years for high cholesterol and I've come across a few recent

> > > studies that suggest men who take statins may also have low

> > > T. I'm considering starting TRT therapy soon but was

> > > wondering if it would be a good idea to stop taking statins

> > > to see if my T levels go up. I can't seem to remember if I

> > > had low T symptoms before I started on statins but I

> > > probably did. Also, I have read that there is some

> > > relationship between Low T and high cholesterol. Anyone else

> > > who may have more info on this topic would be much

> > > appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > Here is artice about statins and low T

> > > >

http://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/news/20100416/statins_may_lower_testos\

terone_libido

> > > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

May 10, 2010

I told my doctor years ago the the Statins were killing my sex drive.

He said a lower sex drive was better than dying, so I keep taking 1/2 of the

dose of Lipitor. The other brands seemed worse.

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2005/nov2005_aas_01.htm

get your pregnenolone levels tested.

The body converts some of the Cholesterol into Pregnenolone.

Pregnenolone is the grandfather of hormones. It converts into DHEA &

progesterone.

DHEA converts into testosterone, estrogen & other hormones in the downward

chain.

progesterone trys to balance the correct ratio of T to E

Maybe our bodies do not convert enough Cholesterol into pregnenolone. maybe

that is why our hormone are messed up & the cholesterol is high.

This is my amateur research on the subject.

I am now taking some pregnenolone 25mg tablets to see if it helps.

G

>

> Statins and Low T?? I've been on statins for a few years for high cholesterol

and I've come across a few recent studies that suggest men who take statins may

also have low T. I'm considering starting TRT therapy soon but was wondering if

it would be a good idea to stop taking statins to see if my T levels go up. I

can't seem to remember if I had low T symptoms before I started on statins but I

probably did. Also, I have read that there is some relationship between Low T

and high cholesterol. Anyone else who may have more info on this topic would be

much appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Here is artice about statins and low T

>

http://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/news/20100416/statins_may_lower_testos\

terone_libido

>

May 10, 2010

In a message dated 5/10/2010 7:02:07 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

no_reply writes:

I told my doctor years ago the the Statins were killing my sex drive.

He said a lower sex drive was better than dying, so I keep taking 1/2 of

the dose of Lipitor. The other brands seemed worse.

Yikes. Please read books like this

_http://www.amazon.com/Fat-Cholesterol-are-Good-You/dp/919755538X_

(http://www.amazon.com/Fat-Cholesterol-are-Good-You/dp/919755538X)

and go to websites like this _http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/_

(http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/)

Almost nobody should be on statins.

May 10, 2010

The creams work much better as per Dr. .

http://www.vitaminusa.com/prbocr2ozbyl.html

The above is all I could find on a cream but Dr. sells it to his men he

gets it compounded if he can so can you.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: gin2c <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Statins and low T??

>

> Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 9:59 AM

> I told my doctor years ago the the

> Statins were killing my sex drive.

>

> He said a lower sex drive was better than dying, so I keep

> taking 1/2 of the dose of Lipitor. The other brands

> seemed worse.

>

> http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2005/nov2005_aas_01.htm

>

> get your pregnenolone levels tested.

>

> The body converts some of the Cholesterol into

> Pregnenolone.

>

> Pregnenolone is the grandfather of hormones. It

> converts into DHEA & progesterone.

>

> DHEA converts into testosterone, estrogen & other

> hormones in the downward chain.

>

> progesterone trys to balance the correct ratio of T to E

>

> Maybe our bodies do not convert enough Cholesterol into

> pregnenolone. maybe that is why our hormone are messed

> up & the cholesterol is high.

>

> This is my amateur research on the subject.

>

> I am now taking some pregnenolone 25mg tablets to see if it

> helps.

>

> G

>

> >

> > Statins and Low T?? I've been on statins for a few

> years for high cholesterol and I've come across a few recent

> studies that suggest men who take statins may also have low

> T. I'm considering starting TRT therapy soon but was

> wondering if it would be a good idea to stop taking statins

> to see if my T levels go up. I can't seem to remember if I

> had low T symptoms before I started on statins but I

> probably did. Also, I have read that there is some

> relationship between Low T and high cholesterol. Anyone else

> who may have more info on this topic would be much

> appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Here is artice about statins and low T

> >

http://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/news/20100416/statins_may_lower_testos\

terone_libido

> >

>

> ------------------------------------

>

May 11, 2010

> > I told my doctor years ago the the

> > Statins were killing my sex drive.

> >

> > He said a lower sex drive was better than dying, so I keep

> > taking 1/2 of the dose of Lipitor. The other brands

> > seemed worse.

Hi,

there are alternatives to statins to keeping your blood flowing! for me it's

oatmeal every morning and 1/4 aspirin eod.

I don't consider a low libido acceptable, if I did I wouldn't be sticking myself

3 times a week (1 test, 2 hcg)...

I could -survive- with a low test level and a minimal libido but I wouldn't be

LIVING.

These last few weeks wife and I have been down to making love once a week due to

asthma/allergies and end-of-school-year grief and that's been just barely

living...