labs

[Guest guest]

Hey everybody,

My labs seem to jump around every month. For example ALT was 7, then 21 and

then back to 10. Is this normal? It worries me when they start to go up!!

Audra, AIH

[Guest guest]

Hi everybody,

I am new here too. Now that my labs are in normal ranges they vary a little

each time, although higher than yours. When I started with this in Aug.

2000, ALT & AST were 2000 & 1990 now are around 30. The one count I stay

high on is white count, currently around 15. Has this happened to anyone

else & do you know why?

Best wishes to all.

na AIH 8/00.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I believe it is quite normal. Mine do the same thing, and it also depends if IM on prednison or not, which bring them close to normal. Mine sometimes change weekly. I hope that makes you feel better, that others change too.

Christi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/21/01 6:23:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, adilli5783@... writes:

I can't figure out if I'm worrying over nothing.??? Just a little background: I have had AIH for two years started with pred and imuran.

For the last six months I have had no pred and am very slowly coming off imuran.

My labs have always been low like around 7 - 20 for alt and ast. All of a sudden ast went from 17 to 28. That's higher than its been in a year and half.

I know 28 is still normal. Am I worried over nothing???

Audra AIH

Audra, doesn't your doctor review all your labs? If not, why not? I'd want to discuss this situation with him or her. Most people who stop Prednisone have flare-ups, and flare-ups are very undesirable.

Harper

[Guest guest]

Debby,

I can relate. I've mostly been happy with my doctor/s, but lately

I've been frustrated. My care is mostly in the hands of a very

knowledgeable hepatologist who is an hour and a half away from here.

We have mostly been communicating by phone and she gets my now weekly

labs faxed to her. What's annoying is that I'm still waiting for

results from a CAT scan from almost a month ago. At first it

was, " Don't have the results yet... " Then it was, " Haven't had a

chance to look at them... " Now it's, " I need to have this one certain

radiologist who is on vacation go over them with me... " My doctor

read some of the observations to me from the first radiologist, but I

didn't understand half of what she said, and this was all on her cell

phone, so I didn't feel like I could " waste " her time requesting

clarification. It mostly sounded good, " no cirrhosis, blah, blah,

blah, " but then something about " ruptured something or another... " In

the meantime, I just have to wait.

I feel for you. That's unkind (to say the least) for her to throw

something out there like " maybe lymphoma " and then have you wait two

months to see. It's frustrating how doctors seem to pick and choose

what they reveal to you. Well, there is a node, but don't worry about

it...

Wish you luck with your labs and CT scan results. By the way, what

does 6MP stand for?

Annette

AIH 6/02

> Hi...I wanted to share what happened with my doctor yesterday. I

had not gone for 2 months. She asked about the pain in the side, but

I told her the pain in the front was better, but the side pain was

about the same. I told her where it was. She told me my liver was

not enlarged (which IS good) and she cannot understand what the pain

is from...I think that is standard answers.

>

> She glanced again at my CT scan done in May. She read where there

was an node that was somewhat enlarged, but not bad....well, it had

to be bad enough to be noted on the CT Scan!

>

> So, I asked her what it meant, and she informed that she would redo

the scan in 2 months and that if more showed, then it could possibly

be lymphoma. YIPEE...just made my day.

>

> She was discouraged that my lft's were up again. I am anemic again

so had more blood drawn today. She will call me next week if they

are elevated still and then increase my 6MP. She was frustrated they

were up, because she really wants me off the prednisone....hmmmmm, ME

TOO! So for now, I remain on the 50 mg of 6MP and 5 of the

prednisone.

>

> Has anyone else had any problem with nodes showing up in their CT

scan? Just wondering if this goes along with this liver stuff.

>

> Ohhhh and the best thing was that once and for all, the labs proved

that I do NOT have HepC. Now I can tell the rheumatologist that I

don't have it. He was totally convinced I had that and not

AIH.....some doctors.

> debby/CA

> AIH 7/01

[Guest guest]

Dear and Melina,

I saw your last posts and thought I'd tell you about the reason my LL

Dr. won't use them. He said (please forgive me if I get it wrong),

that the reason that he didn't use them is because they won't let the

Dr.'s see their testing records or practices or something like that.

Sorry, that doesn't sound all that helpful now that I see it in

print.

> My sister's

> > neurologist insists on having her bloodwork done there rather

than

> IGeneX

> > and I am unfamiliar with it. Any help will be appreciated

because

> I want to

> > get her to my LLMD. At least this Neuro agrees about Quest lab

> only testing

> > for certain bands...the wheels turn slowly...but considering

that

>

> Melina,

>

> Why doesn't your sister's doctor like IGeneX lab? I had blood work

done

> there as well as at Quest. It's true Quest tested less bands but

they were

> reactive. What's wrong with IGeneX lab? I thought they were

supposed to be good.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-I think you misunderstood.

IGenex is a good lab...I have never heard of the place in Boston that the

neurologist wants to use, Imunex...?. The Neurologist has never heard of

IGenex. I was trying to talk him into using them but he is not an LLMD. I

have to make my sister go to Dr P...that is next, I guess, but meantime we

are ruling out ALS and MS with regular doctors. Its hard because the regular

doctors don't know much and are very skeptical of the LLMDs. A lot of

insurance companies don't want to pay for out of state labs and the doctors

have to do more work in getting the little box of tubes ready.

This is in southern CT where Lyme began!! I am always shocked that they

don't know more and are so resistant to learning!

Feel good-

Melina

[ ] Labs

My sister's

> neurologist insists on having her bloodwork done there rather than

IGeneX

> and I am unfamiliar with it. Any help will be appreciated because

I want to

> get her to my LLMD. At least this Neuro agrees about Quest lab

only testing

> for certain bands...the wheels turn slowly...but considering that

Melina,

Why doesn't your sister's doctor like IGeneX lab? I had blood work done

there as well as at Quest. It's true Quest tested less bands but they were

reactive. What's wrong with IGeneX lab? I thought they were supposed to

be good.

[Guest guest]

Wow, how are you feeling Venizia? I have heard from this group that the closer

to zero, the better you will feel. But then I have also heard on this group

that if you stay at that level for too long, it can be bad for the bones...

Please keep us posted...Blessings,

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote:

I just received my labs from my July 17th appt. One thing I will need

to ask my doctor is

why he never does a Ft3 and always does a T3total.

Anyway, as you can see my TSH shows I am hyperT. I asked his nurse, when I

called for

the numbers, if I should reduce my meds. I am currently taking 3grains of Armour

4days a

week and 2 grains 3 days a week. She said I shouldn't change anything until I

see him in

Sept. The only symptom I am having of being hyperT is much more perspiring. I

get

warm very easily and a hypoT symptom of a hoarse voice. My bone density test a

year ago

was not the best. Otherwise, I am feeling fine. Any input would be appreciated.

Ft4 - 1.8- Ranges- 0.9 to 2.2

TSH - 0.02- Ranges - 0.32 to 5.0

Total t3 - 2.05 - Ranges - 0.51 to 1.65

Venizia

[Guest guest]

Venizia,

When did you take the test relative to taking Armour? Do you have

Hashi's? Was it active when you took the test?

Chuck

>

>

> I just received my labs from my July 17th appt. One thing I will need to

> ask my doctor is

> why he never does a Ft3 and always does a T3total.

>

> Anyway, as you can see my TSH shows I am hyperT. I asked his nurse, when

> I called for

> the numbers, if I should reduce my meds. I am currently taking 3grains

> of Armour 4days a

> week and 2 grains 3 days a week. She said I shouldn't change anything

> until I see him in

> Sept. The only symptom I am having of being hyperT is much more

> perspiring. I get

> warm very easily and a hypoT symptom of a hoarse voice. My bone density

> test a year ago

> was not the best. Otherwise, I am feeling fine. Any input would be

> appreciated.

>

> Ft4 - 1.8- Ranges- 0.9 to 2.2

> TSH - 0.02- Ranges - 0.32 to 5.0

> Total t3 - 2.05 - Ranges - 0.51 to 1.65

>

> Venizia

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I purposely did not take the Armour the day of the test. The test was around

2:00pm and I

hadn't had any Armour since 6:30 am the day before.

I do have Hashi's. When I was tested in April my TPO was 210 (normal range - <

35 IU/mL

and the Thryroglobulin Antibodies was 263 (normal range-<20 IU/mL. I do not

know

what it is now, those were the results back in April.

Thanks,

Venizia

>

> Venizia,

>

> When did you take the test relative to taking Armour? Do you have

> Hashi's? Was it active when you took the test?

>

> Chuck

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > I just received my labs from my July 17th appt. One thing I will need to

> > ask my doctor is

> > why he never does a Ft3 and always does a T3total.

> >

> > Anyway, as you can see my TSH shows I am hyperT. I asked his nurse, when

> > I called for

> > the numbers, if I should reduce my meds. I am currently taking 3grains

> > of Armour 4days a

> > week and 2 grains 3 days a week. She said I shouldn't change anything

> > until I see him in

> > Sept. The only symptom I am having of being hyperT is much more

> > perspiring. I get

> > warm very easily and a hypoT symptom of a hoarse voice. My bone density

> > test a year ago

> > was not the best. Otherwise, I am feeling fine. Any input would be

> > appreciated.

> >

> > Ft4 - 1.8- Ranges- 0.9 to 2.2

> > TSH - 0.02- Ranges - 0.32 to 5.0

> > Total t3 - 2.05 - Ranges - 0.51 to 1.65

> >

> > Venizia

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Venizia,

You wrote:

>

> I purposely did not take the Armour the day of the test. The test was

> around 2:00pm and I

> hadn't had any Armour since 6:30 am the day before.

>

> I do have Hashi's. ... TPO was 210 (normal

> range - < 35 IU/mL Thryroglobulin Antibodies was 263 (normal range-<20 IU/mL.

....

In that case, the low (hyperT) TSH is not so threatening. Antibodies can

artificially lower the TSH.

You can estimate the FT3 from the FT4 and totals. I don't know if that

is what your doctor is doing, but it is possible.

As long as the antibodies are active, your best best is to adjust dosage

to symptoms until this passes. In any case, the wait until you see the

doctor in September will almost certainly not do any harm.

Best,

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Thanks SOOOO much Chuck. You have helped me on many occasions....I am glad

you're

out there! I will breathe easier now until Sept.

Venizia

> >

> > I purposely did not take the Armour the day of the test. The test was

> > around 2:00pm and I

> > hadn't had any Armour since 6:30 am the day before.

> >

> > I do have Hashi's. ... TPO was 210 (normal

> > range - < 35 IU/mL Thryroglobulin Antibodies was 263 (normal range-<20

IU/mL. ...

>

> In that case, the low (hyperT) TSH is not so threatening. Antibodies can

> artificially lower the TSH.

>

> You can estimate the FT3 from the FT4 and totals. I don't know if that

> is what your doctor is doing, but it is possible.

>

> As long as the antibodies are active, your best best is to adjust dosage

> to symptoms until this passes. In any case, the wait until you see the

> doctor in September will almost certainly not do any harm.

>

> Best,

> Chuck

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I am feeling quite good actually and now even better now that Chuck explained

about the

TSH and the antibodies etc. So I guess I may not have to worry about the bones

if the TSH

is not a concern, because of the antibodies. I am so grateful for this group!

Venizia

> I just received my labs from my July 17th appt. One thing I will

need to ask my

doctor is

> why he never does a Ft3 and always does a T3total.

>

> Anyway, as you can see my TSH shows I am hyperT. I asked his nurse, when I

called for

> the numbers, if I should reduce my meds. I am currently taking 3grains of

Armour 4days

a

> week and 2 grains 3 days a week. She said I shouldn't change anything until I

see him in

> Sept. The only symptom I am having of being hyperT is much more perspiring. I

get

> warm very easily and a hypoT symptom of a hoarse voice. My bone density test a

year

ago

> was not the best. Otherwise, I am feeling fine. Any input would be

appreciated.

>

> Ft4 - 1.8- Ranges- 0.9 to 2.2

> TSH - 0.02- Ranges - 0.32 to 5.0

> Total t3 - 2.05 - Ranges - 0.51 to 1.65

>

> Venizia

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

you cannot go by TSH once you are on Armour. much more important is to have

Free levels in upper quadrant.

IMO you are in no way hyperT, and I think the dosing you do doesn't make a bit

of sense. Better to take the same dose everyday. Average dose of Armour is

180-300mg. Have you tried some support nutrients like DHEA? iodine?

Gracia

I just received my labs from my July 17th appt. One thing I will need to ask

my doctor is

why he never does a Ft3 and always does a T3total.

Anyway, as you can see my TSH shows I am hyperT. I asked his nurse, when I

called for

the numbers, if I should reduce my meds. I am currently taking 3grains of

Armour 4days a

week and 2 grains 3 days a week. She said I shouldn't change anything until I

see him in

Sept. The only symptom I am having of being hyperT is much more perspiring. I

get

warm very easily and a hypoT symptom of a hoarse voice. My bone density test a

year ago

was not the best. Otherwise, I am feeling fine. Any input would be

appreciated.

Ft4 - 1.8- Ranges- 0.9 to 2.2

TSH - 0.02- Ranges - 0.32 to 5.0

Total t3 - 2.05 - Ranges - 0.51 to 1.65

Venizia

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[Guest guest]

Have not tried any support nutrients except for selenium. To be honest, I am

not

convinced yet that it would be a good thing. I know you have put a lot of info

out there to

support your believes and I appreciate that but I willl have to do more thinking

on it before

I consider it. But I really appreciate all the info. That's why I am in this

group.

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , " Gracia " <circe@...> wrote:

>

>

> you cannot go by TSH once you are on Armour. much more important is to have

Free

levels in upper quadrant.

> IMO you are in no way hyperT, and I think the dosing you do doesn't make a

bit of

sense. Better to take the same dose everyday. Average dose of Armour is

180-300mg.

Have you tried some support nutrients like DHEA? iodine?

> Gracia

>

>

> I just received my labs from my July 17th appt. One thing I will need to ask

my doctor

is

> why he never does a Ft3 and always does a T3total.

>

> Anyway, as you can see my TSH shows I am hyperT. I asked his nurse, when I

called for

> the numbers, if I should reduce my meds. I am currently taking 3grains of

Armour

4days a

> week and 2 grains 3 days a week. She said I shouldn't change anything until

I see him

in

> Sept. The only symptom I am having of being hyperT is much more perspiring.

I get

> warm very easily and a hypoT symptom of a hoarse voice. My bone density test

a year

ago

> was not the best. Otherwise, I am feeling fine. Any input would be

appreciated.

>

> Ft4 - 1.8- Ranges- 0.9 to 2.2

> TSH - 0.02- Ranges - 0.32 to 5.0

> Total t3 - 2.05 - Ranges - 0.51 to 1.65

>

> Venizia

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Venezia, I always advocate that people check and try

things that they feel comfortable with and leave out

the others. The thing about all this is we are

basically in the same boat. We are not really getting

enough info from our docs, sometimes actually getting

bad info, bad treatment, beging caused more problems,

so we all need to be more aware and informed and be

our own doctors.

Roni

--- Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

>

> it's OK to be skeptical--do what feels right for

> you. I have had to try everything---most of my

> life untreated hypo.

> Gracia

>

> Have not tried any support nutrients except for

> selenium. To be honest, I am not

> convinced yet that it would be a good thing. I

> know you have put a lot of info out there to

> support your believes and I appreciate that but I

> willl have to do more thinking on it before

> I consider it. But I really appreciate all the

> info. That's why I am in this group.

>

> Venizia

>

>

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[Guest guest]

You should add this post to your first post we have no Idea what your talking

about. But for a list of labs needed go to www.allthingsmale.com and read TRT:

A Recipe for Success in this are labs you need and why.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: greytax <no_reply >

> Subject: Labs

>

> Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 4:50 PM

> I've just had labs done and looking

> at what they tested it only appears the testosterone. 

> cbc etc.  I don't see dhea lh.  What should he be

> looking for what test or labs should i be getting? 

>

> thanks

>

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[Guest guest]

I went to the Dr this morning for a follow up and found out that they only ran a

few things, so here they are. They were a month ago, and I still haven't picked

up my HCG do to $$$$ problems. But I have lowered my T shots to 100mg every 10

days, so I have had 3 shots in Aug and I feel a lot better.

TSH 2.71 range 0.40-4.50

FSH <0.7 range 1.6 -8.0

LS <0.2 range 1.5-9.3

Prolactin 6.8 range 2.0 -18.0

Testosterone, total 1623 range 241-827

That's it, I had asked for Estridial and was told that didn't get tested.

The Dr wanted to do new labs today since I was feeling better and he told me

that he would check the Estridial this time along with FSH and LS. He want to

wean me off the Test Cyp over the next 3 months and put me just on HCG to see if

my testis will produce enough. I have been off the Uroxatrol and Advodart for

about 4 weeks and haven't had any problems taking a piss, so that tells me I

didn't need it.

Any thoughts?

Re: Questions about Testosterone replacement treatment

" 'pmgamer18@...' " <pmgamer18@...>

Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 2:54 PM

So, I have been taking shots since April and my testis have gotten smaller in

the last month or so. The urologist said that the amount of T I was getting

would only be helping my testis make enough for my body. So your statement makes

me wonder if mine were producing a little and after I started the shots they

stopped and have shrunk. Will they unshrink with the growth hormone or is whats

done, done? I am still waiting on my labs to post.

Pryor

Sales- Pricing Analyst

American Tile

972-280-0128

E-mail: j.pryor@...

[Guest guest]

Your LH and FSH levels are going to be low on TRT your bain sees the T in your

blood and shuts down sending this messages to your testis that tell them to make

T.

You need to run more labs on Thyriod your TSH is over 2 this is a red flag going

up.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

>

>

> From: Pryor <j.pryor@...>

> Subject: Re: Questions about Testosterone

> replacement treatment

> " 'pmgamer18@...' "

> <pmgamer18@...>

> Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 2:54 PM

>

>

>

> So, I have been taking shots since April and my testis have

> gotten smaller in the last month or so. The urologist said

> that the amount of T I was getting would only be helping my

> testis make enough for my body. So your statement makes me

> wonder if mine were producing a little and after I started

> the shots they stopped and have shrunk. Will they unshrink

> with the growth hormone or is whats done, done? I am still

> waiting on my labs to post.

>

> Pryor

> Sales- Pricing Analyst

> American Tile

> 972-280-0128

> E-mail: j.pryor@...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

marie.. thank you for the laughter...  that was awesome.  I am so glad you are at 10.7.  That is a good number to be at.  Good job.Great big hugs,TeriOn Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Rain Beau <annamariestitt@...> wrote:

 

Well, good news my hgb came back 10.7 today all by itself aint that sweet my blood just wanted a little attention. enough already i am tired of this doctors office already i am here quite enough without my blood playing " looky me see what i can pull " another false alarm to get me outta my bed damn it!

Blessed be marie---------

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