Intro and questions

[Guest guest]

Hi...my posts came in the wrong order, so you probably have seen my

introductory post by now... has had hep C for..who knows how long? We

think he might have got it in 1989...He was mugged in New Orleans (before we

met) and woke up in a charity hospital...They may very well have given him

blood. He also had a partner before that who may have used needles.

But...we speculate it is the charity hospital incident, because so far he

has shown no symptoms of the disease, and my not-very-well-informed theory

is that that makes it more liklely he has only had it for 13 years instead

of 20 or more?

He is definitely a drinker and admits he is going to find it very hard to

give that up...I have long wanted him to stop drinking (for the sake of his

health and our budget!) but this is not the way I wanted it to happen (if it

does happen).. :-( Let me just say that after his heart attack, he is

still drinking and smoking, that gives you some idea how hard it is for him

to quit!!

One of my big concerns is that we are gardeners, and he makes cool welded

metal garden structures and sculptures, too. It has been bad enough

worrying about him being able to do physical work after the heart

attack...but he just saw a cardiologist who said his prognosis is good for

doing physical work again (within reason...maybe no more building huge rock

walls!!). And now comes the diagnosis of HepC (although, as I said, we

don't know yet exactly what his, or my, situation is, and his doc said

something about how he could be just a carrier. (????) Further tests are

scheduled for May 8. Do any of you folks do physically demanding work, and

have you been able to continue it with your HepC? (I would be out working

right now, but it is pouring torrential rain here!)

I am from Seattle; is originally from Philly. We now live on the

Long Beach Peninsula...where the Columbia River meets the Pacific Ocean.

http://www.funbeach.com has some webcams...the clamcam will let you look at

the weather on the beach!

Skyler

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> Skyler I don't think I " ve met you yet..Maybe I missed your posts..I am

> Jan..Where are you and the hubby from and how long has he had Hep??

Welcome

> anyway and feel free to ask anything you'd like to..Someone in here is

able

> to answer most questions asked..

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Skyler

I have been able to do physically demanding work without any real problems.

By the end of the work week I'm really wiped out though.

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>

> > Skyler I don't think I " ve met you yet..Maybe I missed your posts..I am

> > Jan..Where are you and the hubby from and how long has he had Hep??

> Welcome

> > anyway and feel free to ask anything you'd like to..Someone in here is

> able

> > to answer most questions asked..

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Skyler some of the people in here do continue to work..Now once on treatment it is harder on some..I myself do not work but it is partially due to an accident i was in about 2 1/2 years ago..It is nice to meet you and and I hope we can help you with questions..I too have a husband that drinks and pray everyday he quits but with no avail....If you ever need to atlk abou tanything we are here if there is someone here you would rather talk with privately we don't mind that either...

[Guest guest]

Skylar--You most definitely must get your hubby to cease the drinking as well

definitely add fuel to the fire already going on in his liver....If he doesn't

give it up he could very easily develop cirrhosis...this is what I believe added

my cirrhosis... I relize it may be difficult to give up the booze--but it's a

much better option than a coffin!!!

arlene

tangly cottage gardening wrote:

> Hi...my posts came in the wrong order, so you probably have seen my

> introductory post by now... has had hep C for..who knows how long? We

> think he might have got it in 1989...He was mugged in New Orleans (before we

> met) and woke up in a charity hospital...They may very well have given him

> blood. He also had a partner before that who may have used needles.

> But...we speculate it is the charity hospital incident, because so far he

> has shown no symptoms of the disease, and my not-very-well-informed theory

> is that that makes it more liklely he has only had it for 13 years instead

> of 20 or more?

>

> He is definitely a drinker and admits he is going to find it very hard to

> give that up...I have long wanted him to stop drinking (for the sake of his

> health and our budget!) but this is not the way I wanted it to happen (if it

> does happen).. :-( Let me just say that after his heart attack, he is

> still drinking and smoking, that gives you some idea how hard it is for him

> to quit!!

>

> One of my big concerns is that we are gardeners, and he makes cool welded

> metal garden structures and sculptures, too. It has been bad enough

> worrying about him being able to do physical work after the heart

> attack...but he just saw a cardiologist who said his prognosis is good for

> doing physical work again (within reason...maybe no more building huge rock

> walls!!). And now comes the diagnosis of HepC (although, as I said, we

> don't know yet exactly what his, or my, situation is, and his doc said

> something about how he could be just a carrier. (????) Further tests are

> scheduled for May 8. Do any of you folks do physically demanding work, and

> have you been able to continue it with your HepC? (I would be out working

> right now, but it is pouring torrential rain here!)

>

> I am from Seattle; is originally from Philly. We now live on the

> Long Beach Peninsula...where the Columbia River meets the Pacific Ocean.

> http://www.funbeach.com has some webcams...the clamcam will let you look at

> the weather on the beach!

>

> Skyler

>

> Re: [ ] more on milk thistle

>

> > Skyler I don't think I " ve met you yet..Maybe I missed your posts..I am

> > Jan..Where are you and the hubby from and how long has he had Hep??

> Welcome

> > anyway and feel free to ask anything you'd like to..Someone in here is

> able

> > to answer most questions asked..

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi. The alcohol is a definite problem. I have to admit I don't know how hard it would have been for me to quit, because I had hepatititis. I suspected my elevated liver enzyme panels were due to drinking, but it never slowed me down. I believe I had it since 1981 and I continued drinking until 1995. I quit, still not knowing I had hcv, so I quit of my own volition. Being stubborn, I suppose it would have been harder to quit at a dr's insistance. Alcohol speeds up the replication of the virus, as well as being difficult even for a healthy liver to pass. Good luck to you and your husband, this is not an easy path. If he can manage to quit the alcohol things will be much easier for him. -dz-

> Hi...my posts came in the wrong order, so you probably have seen my> introductory post by now... has had hep C for..who knows how long? We> think he might have got it in 1989...He was mugged in New Orleans (before we> met) and woke up in a charity hospital...They may very well have given him> . He also had a partner before that who may have used needles.> But...we speculate it is the charity hospital incident, because so far he> has shown no symptoms of the disease, and my not-very-well-informed theory> is that that makes it more liklely he has only had it for 13 years instead> of 20 or more?>> He is definitely a drinker and admits he is going to find it very hard to> give that up...I have long wanted him to stop drinking (for the sake of his> health and our budget!) but this is not the way I wanted it to happen (if it> does happen).. :-( Let me just say that after his heart attack, he is> still drinking and smoking, that gives you some idea how hard it is for him> to quit!!>> One of my big concerns is that we are gardeners, and he makes cool welded> metal garden structures and sculptures, too. It has been bad enough> worrying about him being able to do physical work after the heart> attack...but he just saw a cardiologist who said his prognosis is good for> doing physical work again (within reason...maybe no more building huge rock> walls!!). And now comes the diagnosis of HepC (although, as I said, we> don't know yet exactly what his, or my, situation is, and his doc said> something about how he could be just a carrier. (????) Further tests are> scheduled for May 8. Do any of you folks do physically demanding work, and> have you been able to continue it with your HepC? (I would be out working> right now, but it is pouring torrential rain here!)>> I am from Seattle; is originally from Philly. We now live on the> Long Beach Peninsula...where the Columbia River meets the Pacific Ocean.> http://www.funbeach.com has some webcams...the clamcam will let you look at> the weather on the beach!>> Skyler>> Re: [ ] more on milk thistle>> > Skyler I don't think I"ve met you yet..Maybe I missed your posts..I am> > Jan..Where are you and the hubby from and how long has he had Hep??> Welcome> > anyway and feel free to ask anything you'd like to..Someone in here is> able> > to answer most questions asked..> >>>>

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome to our group! We have another on our board, in fact he founded it. I believe I contracted my hepatitis in New Orleans as well, though I as using . I was an "experimenter", my roommate was a junkie. Living with a user, you can come into contact by sharing razors, which as another possible cause of my exposure. We have come to the conclusion here that it does not matter how or where you got it, just what are you going to do about it. You can easily go about your life without symptoms for 20 years. I varies grealy on how fast the disease progresses. Alcohol accelerates it. One of our members, Dennis, cuts wood quite a bit and he seems to have kept it up while under treatment. My physical activity went way down during treatment, but I am getting back to normal now. I am praying that alcohol does not impede your progress through this disease. Do what you can to help him quit or at least gradually decrease the alcohol consumption. -dz-

tangly cottage gardening <tangly@...> wrote: Hi...my posts came in the wrong order, so you probably have seen myintroductory post by now... has had hep C for..who knows how long? Wethink he might have got it in 1989...He was mugged in New Orleans (before wemet) and woke up in a charity hospital...They may very well have given himblood. He also had a partner before that who may have used needles.But...we speculate it is the charity hospital incident, because so far hehas shown no symptoms of the disease, and my not-very-well-informed theoryis that that makes it more liklely he has only had it for 13 years insteadof 20 or more?He is definitely a drinker and admits he is going to find it very hard togive that up...I have long wanted him to stop drinking (for the sake of hishealth and our budget!) but this is not the way I wanted it to happen (if itdoes happen).. :-( Let me just say that after his heart attack, he isstill drinking and smoking, that gives you some idea how hard it is for himto quit!!One of my big concerns is that we are gardeners, and he makes cool weldedmetal garden structures and sculptures, too. It has been bad enoughworrying about him being able to do physical work after the heartattack...but he just saw a cardiologist who said his prognosis is good fordoing physical work again (within reason...maybe no more building huge rockwalls!!). And now comes the diagnosis of HepC (although, as I said, wedon't know yet exactly what his, or my, situation is, and his doc saidsomething about how he could be just a carrier. (????) Further tests arescheduled for May 8. Do any of you folks do physically demanding work, andhave you been able to continue it with your HepC? (I would be out workingright now, but it is pouring torrential rain here!)I am from Seattle; is originally from Philly. We now live on theLong Beach Peninsula...where the Columbia River meets the Pacific Ocean.http://www.funbeach.com has some webcams...the clamcam will let you look atthe weather on the beach!Skyler Re: [ ] more on milk thistle> Skyler I don't think I"ve met you yet..Maybe I missed your posts..I am> Jan..Where are you and the hubby from and how long has he had Hep??Welcome> anyway and feel free to ask anything you'd like to..Someone in here isable> to answer most questions asked..>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sklyler & !!

I also used to be quite the soc. drinker......Only

thing was I was stupid about it-as I even drank after being diagnosed with

hepC...I can always use the excuse that back in those days not much was

known about hepC(which they really didn't ) It wasn't til early '96

I found that I had cirrhosis too....I immediately quit boozing..I didn't

find it at all hard to quit as I chose to live rather than to drink myself

to death!! I've now had this (cirrhosis) for over 6 years......I've

heard that many prople don't last that long with my prognosis....Many just

give up.....I hope you're reading this ( I'm not preaching either!!)

but there is a much better chance of ridding yourself of hepC........if

you can just quit the booze......life is so much better--don't let your

liver get caught up with the cirrhosis--it's just not worth.....all the

booze ever made!!!!

Skyler & --please don't give

up!!

arlene

imaganeer wrote:

Hi and welcome to our group! We have another on our board, in

fact he founded it. I believe I contracted my hepatitis in New Orleans

as well, though I as using . I was an "experimenter", my roommate was a

junkie. Living with a user, you can come into contact by sharing razors,

which as another possible cause of my exposure. We have come to the conclusion

here that it does not matter how or where you got it, just what are you

going to do about it. You can easily go about your life without symptoms

for 20 years. I varies grealy on how fast the disease progresses. Alcohol

accelerates it. One of our members, Dennis, cuts wood quite a bit and he

seems to have kept it up while under treatment. My physical activity went

way down during treatment, but I am getting back to normal now. I am praying

that alcohol does not impede your progress through this disease. Do what

you can to help him quit or at least gradually decrease the alcohol consumption.

-dz-

tangly cottage gardening <tangly@...>

wrote:

Hi...my

posts came in the wrong order, so you probably have seen my

introductory post by now... has had hep C for..who knows

how long? We

think he might have got it in 1989...He was mugged in New Orleans

(before we

met) and woke up in a charity hospital...They may very well have

given him

blood. He also had a partner before that who may have used needles.

But...we speculate it is the charity hospital incident, because

so far he

has shown no symptoms of the disease, and my not-very-well-informed

theory

is that that makes it more liklely he has only had it for 13 years

instead

of 20 or more?

He is definitely a drinker and admits he is going to find it very

hard to

give that up...I have long wanted him to stop drinking (for the

sake of his

health and our budget!) but this is not the way I wanted it to

happen (if it

does happen).. :-( Let me just say that after his heart

attack, he is

still drinking and smoking, that gives you some idea how hard it

is for him

to quit!!

One of my big concerns is that we are gardeners, and he makes cool

welded

metal garden structures and sculptures, too. It has been

bad enough

worrying about him being able to do physical work after the heart

attack...but he just saw a cardiologist who said his prognosis

is good for

doing physical work again (within reason...maybe no more building

huge rock

walls!!). And now comes the diagnosis of HepC (although,

as I said, we

don't know yet exactly what his, or my, situation is, and his doc

said

something about how he could be just a carrier. (????) Further

tests are

scheduled for May 8. Do any of you folks do physically demanding

work, and

have you been able to continue it with your HepC? (I would

be out working

right now, but it is pouring torrential rain here!)

I am from Seattle; is originally from Philly. We now

live on the

Long Beach Peninsula...where the Columbia River meets the Pacific

Ocean.

http://www.funbeach.com

has some webcams...the clamcam will let you look at

the weather on the beach!

Skyler

Re: [ ] more on milk thistle

> Skyler I don't think I"ve met you yet..Maybe I missed your

posts..I am

> Jan..Where are you and the hubby from and how long has he had

Hep??

Welcome

> anyway and feel free to ask anything you'd like to..Someone in

here is

able

> to answer most questions asked..

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I first found this group when my daughter was nursing. I chose not to do

this diet while nursing her for a couple of reasons. One, my diet was

extremely limited already because of DD's food allergies (I could not have

eggs or any coconut or olive oil - sheesh!) and 2) I didn't want to go

through a heavy die-off and detox while nursing. I didn't want to be

physically uncomfortable (I read, and you will too, about all sorts of

problems that people go through with this), nor did I want the toxins going

into my breastmilk and to my baby.

Fast forward 2 years, and I did start this diet. I'm preparing for another

pregnancy, and I should have started this diet as soon as DD was weaned, but

I actually forgot all about it. But as I've spent time here, and as I've

done this diet, I've realized that this diet is really a healthy diet for

any person. I intend to stay on this diet during my next pregnancy and

beyond.

However, I will caution you that if you do decide to do this diet, you

should go slowly. Pay attention to your nutrition and supplements and make

sure you are getting all of your nutrients and fats. You do not want to do

a fast & heavy detox while you are nursing. You will also want to read

carefully about which supplements are safe to take while nursing. I would

do your eliminations of foods as quickly as you want to. I'm a pro at

elimination dieting, but it took me a while to get there. I had to do a lot

of learning of what I could eat, and what to keep in the house, and tricks

like keeping healthy foods ready to eat all the time. But now, I can drop

foods out of my diet like it's nothing (well, okay, except my beloved

cookies which I gave up for this diet! LOL! that is still hard!)

If you've never done elimination dieting, you will want to eliminate one

food at a time and get used to it before you eliminate another. Each time

you eliminate a food item, you will probably think to yourself " I can't eat

anything in my home! " You'll have to give yourself time to adjust. But at

the same time, you'll want to keep in mind ALL of the foods that will

eventually get eliminated. For example, if you eliminate dairy, you

wouldn't want to turn to soy as a substitute, as that will get eliminated

too. That's mighty frustrating!

One of the tricks that I know of when doing eliminations is to actually

*not* look for some food to replace it with. If dairy is gone, then it's

gone. You will want to source your nutrition differently. Milk has protein

and calcium - okay. Where will that come from now? My " replacement " for

milk has become kale and bone broths.

As far as I have researched, I can't find anything one way or the other

about detoxing while nursing. I think that most moms and healthcare

professionals will tell you not to detox while nursing. That is because

toxins are stored in our fat, and breastmilk is very high in fat. So the

theory is that the toxins will leave your body through your breastmilk

(among other pathways). I have not found any evidence to back that up, but

that is what I go by because that's what most people go by. It is also the

most conservative approach.

But at the same time, I think it's also a bad thing to try to

purposefully hold in all of your toxins while you are nursing. Dark, leafy

greens are naturally detoxifying. A good clean diet can also clean your

body (like this diet.) So my goal once I'm pregnant (and nursing again)

will be to allow my body to naturally detox itself, with only very gentle

mild encouragement on my part.

Also, I do believe that the addition of the healthy fats on this diet will

only serve to make your breastmilk a much higher quality than what it would

be without these healthy fats. And since your baby has thrush, I would

definitely consider going on this diet, especially with your history of

fighting yeast in the past. I'd start with immediately eliminating sugar,

dairy, and gluten as fast as you can - whether or not you decide to do this

diet.

Cheers!

Marla

My next question is what sort of time frame are we talking about when

eliminating foods? A week without sugar, then go without dairy for a

week, then a week without grains, something like that?

I appreciate any help you can give...thanks in advance.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, I'm and new here. I've read the basic files sent to me

and a few others but have some questions about my specific

situation. I have lupus (SLE) and have had numerous yeast infections

requiring 10 days of Diflucan over the past couple of years. Eight

weeks ago, I gave birth to my daughter and subsequently ended up

with first another vaginal yeast infection, then thrush in my

breasts. I've been on Diflucan 200 mg for 4 weeks now, and am still

having symptoms.

==>Hi . Welcome to our wonderful group.

Marla has given you some very sound advice, but I would add that

Diflucan is extremely hard on the liver, with often irreversible

damage, so your doctor should have tested your liver before starting

you on them, and also every week. In any case it is an extremely

toxic drug and it is hurting you and your baby more than any

detoxifying could do from this program. Natural antifungals are

much more effective than Diflucan and they do not damage the liver,

nor the body. Garlic is safe for breastfeeding moms and it is an

excellent antifungal, along with coconut oil. If you don't want

garlic breathe take Kyolic garlic supplements.

==>Also Marla stated that there is no proof of toxins being released

through the breast, in fact this program naturally clears out

toxins, even those in the breast, and the body detoxifies mostly

through the liver, kidneys, intestines and adrenals, not the

breasts. You can go wrong being healthier for you and your baby

right now. Nutrition is the key to health.

==>I do not recommend using Primal Defense nor Fungal Defense; most

candida sufferers do not do well on them because they contain many

ingredients and are too harsh. It is better to stick to the " tried

& true " products that are simple and as close to nature as

possible. The best probiotic is cabbage rejuvela, and 2nd best get

a simple acidophilus lactobacilus that contains no more than 6

strains of lactobacillus.

==>But it is better to do the diet first, then when it has killed

off a lot of candida start on antifungals (other than coconut oil

which is started with the diet), and after you die-off from

antifungals has almost stopped, start on probiotics. That's the

gradual approach and it is much more effective and better for you in

the long run.

==>You should try to be completely following the diet within one

month.

The best to you and your babe,

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Shalom y'all,

>

> I'm Kathy from AZ, 53 years young, and have had long time interest

in nutrition and it's part in our health....and I'm very, very new...

==>Hi Kathy. Welcome to our group!

>I score in the mild category taking the yeast test but with my age,

and not always eating healthfully, I have no doubt there are candida

issues. I've had a fair amount of antibiotics in the past but only

once in the past 7 or 8 years.

>

> I'm still reading Bee's material and working on the mindset at this

point. In the meantime I'm eliminating all msg and hidden msg, and

going almost totally organic (have pretty much been there for awhile)

>

> I've been doing some aromatherapy for just a few days now and felt

like I had the flu for about 24 hours.

>

> 1) Is there anything with aromatherapy that would interact with the

program.

> 2) Could I possibly have experienced some sort of die off symptoms.

> 3) Bee, have you any experience with aromatherapy as part of your

program.

>

> If I'm totally off topic for the group, PLEASE educate me as I

don't want to take folks off topic.

==>Aromatherapy is okay if you snif good essential oils directly and

not use candles or other forms. The best essential oils for candida

sufferers are clove oil and oil of oregano. It is best to use pure

oils that can be taken internally like I recommend, and sniff them

directly from the bottle.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank you, and it's interesting because I love the clove oil and am ordering

oregeno oil

<<The best essential oils for candida

sufferers are clove oil and oil of oregano. >>

Off to do more reading.

Kathy in AZ

[Guest guest]

>Posted by: " Arizona Kathy " psalmist7@... beingtransformed7

I'm Kathy from AZ, 53 years young, and have had long time interest in nutrition

and it's part in our health....and I'm very, very new...

==> Welcome to the group Kathy!

1) Is there anything with aromatherapy that would interact with the program.

===> Kathy, Though everyone is different, there are natural ways to practice

aromatherapy without getting a reaction. Crush fresh herbs or flowers to create

the desired affect or brew dry herbs and flowers for aroma. I chew or sniff mint

leaf to help wake myself up and lavendar to diminish my appetite (if needed)

between meals. I find that sniffing rosemary makes me cheerful and often use it

on our meat for the same result with hubby. Another smell I use is Vanilla.

It increases my appetite.

A trick I learned in real estate was to mix cinnamon and vanilla in a dish in a

low temp oven to give the house a 'happy' feeling.

Nan

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I just found out about LDN yesterday when my husband mentioned that he'd heard

about it on an NPR podcast. I spent all day yesterday looking up information,

research, results, calling my doctor, and finding a local pharmacy. Still

waiting to hear what my doctor says, but in the meantime, I'm learning all I

can!

My primary complaint is pain from osteoarthritis and fibromyalgia. Also I am

overweight by about 50 pounds, and constantly tired.

Medical conditions: Hypertension, Kidney stones, PVC's, Osteoarthritis, milk

allergy, Migraines, IBS, history of malignant melanoma, GERD, hypothyroidism,

Long QT Syndrome, Hormone imbalance, Depression, Anxiety, Fibromyalgia, Fatty

Liver Disease, Peri-menopause

Medications: Synthroid, HCTZ, Propranolol, Effexor XR, Dicyclomine, Buspar,

Tramadol, Nexium, Fioricet, Clarinex, Lisinopril.

Vitamins/Herbs: Chromium Picolinate, Valerian Root, Silymarin, Multiple

vitamin, Cod Liver Oil, Ibuprofen, Inositol Hexaniconitate, Magnesium, Mucinex,

Zinc Picolinate, Dandelion Root, Melatonin.

What I'm hoping for is that doctor approves the LDN protocol and I can

discontinue pain meds and possibly some others as well.

Any input into my situation is greatly appreciated.

Cheryl

Midwest US

[Guest guest]

because you use syntrhoid you will have to start at 1.5 mg

because you use nexium you might want to use the cream because the absorption is

not good with nexium.

Tramadol is not allowed i think.

i think that if you go on slow carb diet your weight and fatty liver can be

solved

>

> Hello,

>

> I just found out about LDN yesterday when my husband mentioned that he'd heard

about it on an NPR podcast. I spent all day yesterday looking up information,

research, results, calling my doctor, and finding a local pharmacy. Still

waiting to hear what my doctor says, but in the meantime, I'm learning all I

can!

>

> My primary complaint is pain from osteoarthritis and fibromyalgia. Also I am

overweight by about 50 pounds, and constantly tired.

>

> Medical conditions: Hypertension, Kidney stones, PVC's, Osteoarthritis, milk

allergy, Migraines, IBS, history of malignant melanoma, GERD, hypothyroidism,

Long QT Syndrome, Hormone imbalance, Depression, Anxiety, Fibromyalgia, Fatty

Liver Disease, Peri-menopause

>

> Medications: Synthroid, HCTZ, Propranolol, Effexor XR, Dicyclomine, Buspar,

Tramadol, Nexium, Fioricet, Clarinex, Lisinopril.

>

> Vitamins/Herbs: Chromium Picolinate, Valerian Root, Silymarin, Multiple

vitamin, Cod Liver Oil, Ibuprofen, Inositol Hexaniconitate, Magnesium, Mucinex,

Zinc Picolinate, Dandelion Root, Melatonin.

>

> What I'm hoping for is that doctor approves the LDN protocol and I can

discontinue pain meds and possibly some others as well.

>

> Any input into my situation is greatly appreciated.

>

> Cheryl

> Midwest US

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl...

Sounds like you've got a LOT going on....but that's what happens with

autoimmune disease if you don't stop 'progression'.

I can tell you that LDN has helped my Hashi's thyroid disease. My

antibodies are lower now than before I started LDN and I require less

thyroid meds (THR) also. It's a little tricky when you take THR and

LDN...you just have to be mindful if and when LDN starts to help your

thyroid function better you might not need as much THR.

I hope your doctor will partner with you on using LDN therapy....because

getting off pain meds is a good goal....plus...just having a better

sense of well-being. If your doctor isn't willing to prescribe....just

don't give up -- keep trying to find someone.

Best wishes,

Jann

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl, I'm kinda new here, but have been on LDN 2+ weeks.From your list of symptoms, I want to ask: " Are you gluten free? " Many of your symptoms scream celiac. I have a lot of the same things to cope with, as many here do too.

-- Warmest Regards,Robin Little I just found out about LDN yesterday when my husband mentioned that he'd heard about it on an NPR podcast. I spent all day yesterday looking up information, research, results, calling my doctor, and finding a local pharmacy. Still waiting to hear what my doctor says, but in the meantime, I'm learning all I can!

My primary complaint is pain from osteoarthritis and fibromyalgia. Also I am overweight by about 50 pounds, and constantly tired. Medical conditions: Hypertension, Kidney stones, PVC's, Osteoarthritis, milk allergy, Migraines, IBS, history of malignant melanoma, GERD, hypothyroidism, Long QT Syndrome, Hormone imbalance, Depression, Anxiety, Fibromyalgia, Fatty Liver Disease, Peri-menopause

Medications: Synthroid, HCTZ, Propranolol, Effexor XR, Dicyclomine, Buspar, Tramadol, Nexium, Fioricet, Clarinex, Lisinopril. Vitamins/Herbs: Chromium Picolinate, Valerian Root, Silymarin, Multiple vitamin, Cod Liver Oil, Ibuprofen, Inositol Hexaniconitate, Magnesium, Mucinex, Zinc Picolinate, Dandelion Root, Melatonin.

What I'm hoping for is that doctor approves the LDN protocol and I can discontinue pain meds and possibly some others as well. Any input into my situation is greatly appreciated. Cheryl Midwest US

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Hi Cheryl, I will be starting LDN tonight. I also have fibromyalgia and

transverse myelitis (among other things). I found by doing the Phase 1 diet

religiously for a month along with Three Lac (there are many other brands

though, that will illiminate candida yeast from the body) I was able to

TREMENDOUSLY reduce not only my waistline (lost 15 pounds in a little over a

month) but dramatically reduce the amount of pain I have, both in the muscle and

in the joints. The BEST thing that I have ever done, wished someone would have

told me 15 years ago. I am hoping that LDN will be the second best thing that I

have ever done, and I am so greatful to hear about it.

But prior to LDN you will need to make sure you have done a full Candia cleanse,

and the detox from this is very unpleasant (Google " Herxheimer Response " ) for

the first 2 weeks, but I can assure you, well well worth it.

One more thing, this is my new Guru, I watch him every day now: Doug Kaufman

http://www.knowthecause.com/Shows/TodaysShowNowStreaming/tabid/113/Default.aspx

This guy has changed my life...

hugz, and health,

Carolyn Sunday

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> Hello,

>

> I just found out about LDN yesterday when my husband mentioned that he'd heard

about it on an NPR podcast. I spent all day yesterday looking up information,

research, results, calling my doctor, and finding a local pharmacy. Still

waiting to hear what my doctor says, but in the meantime, I'm learning all I

can!

>

> My primary complaint is pain from osteoarthritis and fibromyalgia. Also I am

overweight by about 50 pounds, and constantly tired.

>

> Medical conditions: Hypertension, Kidney stones, PVC's, Osteoarthritis, milk

allergy, Migraines, IBS, history of malignant melanoma, GERD, hypothyroidism,

Long QT Syndrome, Hormone imbalance, Depression, Anxiety, Fibromyalgia, Fatty

Liver Disease, Peri-menopause

>

> Medications: Synthroid, HCTZ, Propranolol, Effexor XR, Dicyclomine, Buspar,

Tramadol, Nexium, Fioricet, Clarinex, Lisinopril.

>

> Vitamins/Herbs: Chromium Picolinate, Valerian Root, Silymarin, Multiple

vitamin, Cod Liver Oil, Ibuprofen, Inositol Hexaniconitate, Magnesium, Mucinex,

Zinc Picolinate, Dandelion Root, Melatonin.

>

> What I'm hoping for is that doctor approves the LDN protocol and I can

discontinue pain meds and possibly some others as well.

>

> Any input into my situation is greatly appreciated.

>

> Cheryl

> Midwest US

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