DAY 3

[Guest guest]

I've noticed I'm exhausted to Beth

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Day 3

Only the third day I've taken Lexapro. Curious to see what will happen during the switch, but no changes for the better I can put my finger on. I'm completely exhausted today, not sure if I can attribute this to a med. Seems like I got enough sleep this weekend.Recently I ran out of Celexa and it took a fews days before getting to the pharmacy to pick up new prescription. The fourth day without Celexa was a doosie. Total mind funk, hope that doesn't happen.Not sure who mentioned the cost of Paxil, but from what I've read Lexapro compared to Celexa is a cheaper drug. With luck the same will be when compared to Paxil.Beth

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Day 4 for me and I have noticed a huge increase in dreaming too. I

never felt I dreamed much, but the past few nights I think I dream

all night. Nothing bad, just sometimes weirdly scrambled ones and

about people and things I haven't thought of in years. I guess it's

all still in there getting jumbled around!!!!!

Hope everyone is having a great day!

Sue

> Slept well again ...I did have a few dreams,but nothing terrible

and

> nothing worse than what I'm used to with Celexa.

> I feel great actually.(so far)

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Im on day 12?ish and am doing great. No xanax in 2 days! No PA's.

Hang in there I hope it does the trick for you. Oh I'm on 5-7 mg.

Thats a half a ten and a half a half. So I call it 7. -Steve :-)

> Topic... Well its helping me with my depression but nothing yet for

> my anxiety/panic attacks. Hopefully I just need to wait a little

> longer. I going to stay on 5Mg for a while before I go up to 10,

> despite what I was told. I am willing to give this med a try

despite

> the side effects. How's everyone else doing?

[Guest guest]

-Hi, I think all a/d's only do only so much for anxiety or panic. If

you want good coverage, you have to rely on xanax, or others. Its

the only way.

I have suffered with anxiety for years, and now have taken an a/d,

and xanax for a year and a half, and my pdoc says its going to take a

very long time of living " corrected " until there is improvement to

the point where I won't need the xanax anymore. So be it.

-- In Lexapro@y..., " suffering772002 " <suffering772002@y...> wrote:

> Topic... Well its helping me with my depression but nothing yet for

> my anxiety/panic attacks. Hopefully I just need to wait a little

> longer. I going to stay on 5Mg for a while before I go up to 10,

> despite what I was told. I am willing to give this med a try

despite

> the side effects. How's everyone else doing?

[Guest guest]

,

ly, i would find another doctor. I was on Xanax (only) for almost 5 years,

prescribed by a regular doc. It worked for a long while but never really

stopped the panic attacks or GAD. I was up to 3 mg/day at one point!

After 6 months on Celexa, out of the blue, i was able to cut the xanax down

drastically, then all together - though i take a tiny bit now " as needed " as i'm

switching from C to Lexapro. Xanax and the other Benzos are highly

addictive. And the benefits wear out after a while, then you keep needing a

high dose...

All i'm saying is that if you have a p-doc teling you you have to be on xanax

for

" a very long time " , i'd get a 2nd opinion - almost ALL p-docs want patients

OFF the benzo drugs ASAP. - Which Lexapro should allow you to do within a

few months. Do not depend on the xanax as a cushion for any longer than

needed.

Faiv

> > Topic... Well its helping me with my depression but nothing yet for

> > my anxiety/panic attacks. Hopefully I just need to wait a little

> > longer. I going to stay on 5Mg for a while before I go up to 10,

> > despite what I was told. I am willing to give this med a try

> despite

> > the side effects. How's everyone else doing?

[Guest guest]

-Hi, thanks for the advice. He says that I can take xanax as long as

I need it. I have been on the same dose now for a year and a half.

Not increasing it. Yes, I hope the lexapro, at this dose will help

me to cut the xanax down.

I do find at times , I can skip a pill, or take a half of xanax.

But, its never in the morning, LOL !!!

-- In Lexapro@y..., " faivrej " <faivrej@y...> wrote:

> ,

> ly, i would find another doctor. I was on Xanax (only) for

almost 5 years,

> prescribed by a regular doc. It worked for a long while but never

really

> stopped the panic attacks or GAD. I was up to 3 mg/day at one point!

>

> After 6 months on Celexa, out of the blue, i was able to cut the

xanax down

> drastically, then all together - though i take a tiny bit now " as

needed " as i'm

> switching from C to Lexapro. Xanax and the other Benzos are highly

> addictive. And the benefits wear out after a while, then you keep

needing a

> high dose...

> All i'm saying is that if you have a p-doc teling you you have to

be on xanax for

> " a very long time " , i'd get a 2nd opinion - almost ALL p-docs want

patients

> OFF the benzo drugs ASAP. - Which Lexapro should allow you to do

within a

> few months. Do not depend on the xanax as a cushion for any longer

than

> needed.

>

> Faiv

>

>

>

> > > Topic... Well its helping me with my depression but nothing yet

for

> > > my anxiety/panic attacks. Hopefully I just need to wait a

little

> > > longer. I going to stay on 5Mg for a while before I go up to

10,

> > > despite what I was told. I am willing to give this med a try

> > despite

> > > the side effects. How's everyone else doing?

[Guest guest]

> Wow, surprising to see hardly any new posts. I just took day 3 of

> Lex, second time around of course. I really think that past couple

> of days have been withdrawals from the 10 days of Celexa again. I

> kid you not. Zombie-ized. Cannot hardly move, racing thoughts,

> etc. Today I just feel beat and my head feels heavy. Any clue to

> whats going on here??

>

> Shauna

Hi Shauna,

I feel the same way but its from the Christmas Party i went to.. lol

Just hang tuff.. I went to the doc Monday Im on 10 of Lex and

Adderall xr 20. Adderall is dextroamphetamine.. a stimulant Its a

code II narcotic.. It gives you the energy to get going..Want to or

not..Its a contraversial treatment, my drug plan which pays all but

10 dollars wont pay for it, but Im appealing.. You know why??

Because it works..

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Good Morning, Jessie,

Welcome to Day Three. I'm a couple of days ahead of you, and I feel really

good today. One funny thing I've noticed is that I wake up each night

around 2:00. I go back to sleep after about 15 minutes, and I sleep like a

baby until 7:30 or so. This will probably pass with time.

Enjoy your weekend, Jessie. Keep us informed as to how the 10mg pill works

out.

Take care!

Sharon

On 9/13/03 10:58 AM, " Jessie " <princess_of_the_unicorns@...> wrote:

> This is my third day. Today I will take a whole 10mg pill. The dr

> wanted me to only take half of one per day to make sure I didn't

> have any nasty side effects and then on the third day to go ahead

> and take the whole pill. I'm happy to say that I haven't had any

> nasty side effects. I got a little drousey, but I'm not sure if

> that's from the medicine because I'm ALWAYS drousey from my lack of

> sleep at night. I haven't noticed a change in my mood yet though,

> but the dr said that could take about a week. I'm definately

> looking foward to feeling normal again. I also want to thank

> everyone for making me feel welcome here Thanks guys!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Great news!

Well, Day 3 with the Lex and despite the general (and my) belief

that I was cutting the PAxil too fast, I Am on Lex now 3 days and

have nary a side effect. I hope this keeps up. I might go up from

10 to 20 mg of Lex sooner than the doc said too because of the

smoothe transition so far.

[Guest guest]

> that I was cutting the PAxil too fast, I Am on Lex now 3 days and

> have nary a side effect..

As a former Paxil user...I had horrible withdrawel from Paxil. BUT

those withdrwels didn't staart until 4-5 dys off Paxil.

But I was on Paxil for almost 3 yrs. Hopefully you'll keep going

with no adverse effects.

Good Luck to you!

[Guest guest]

Way to go, Jeanne!!! Now ... is that 3 full "effective" days (days following the gorge days)? And which tea did you find took your hunger away? I am excited for you!!! AWESOME isn't it!!! Have a GREAT day! Debbie Jeanne Gardner <jeannedaireaustin@...> wrote: This morning was the weigh in for 3 full days of HCG and I am down 5 lbs. Day one I was a bit hungry, but that went away with the tea. I am really excited!!!!!Jeanne Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

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Hi Debbie,TOTALLY AWESOME!!! I had a hard time with the gorge days. I wan't able to eat that much without feeling completely sick. Those were after the gorge. Today my tummy is a bit grumblie, but ohhhh my is it worth it. The Yerba Mate teas seems to do the trick along with good old green tea, I just haven't had time to made my tea. This group has really been a God send......thank you everyone.JeanneDebbie Piazza <weluv2sail@...> wrote: Way to go, Jeanne!!! Now ... is that 3 full "effective" days (days following the gorge days)? And which tea did you find took your hunger away? I am excited for you!!! AWESOME isn't it!!! Have a GREAT day! Debbie Jeanne Gardner <jeannedaireaustin > wrote: This morning was the weigh in for 3 full days of HCG and I am down 5 lbs. Day one I was a bit hungry, but that went away with the tea. I am really

excited!!!!!Jeanne Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

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Hey Jeanne... I like the Yerba Mate tea the best. Gives me a boost of energy in the afternoon and I don't mind the taste at all ... 'specially with a tab of Stevia in it! LOL!! You should think of that "rumble" in your stomach as your fat disintegrating and yes, I agree, it is sooooo worth it!!! I don't know about you and I know it's only my 4 day of injections, but I actually feel different. I definitely have more energy, I'm more alert, and I feel lighter!!! Funny as that may sound, it's true! Keep up the good work and keep us posted! And I also agree with you about this forum ... it's wonderful and many thanks to all involved!! You're all a tremendous asset and quite an inspiration. Debbie Jeanne Gardner

<jeannedaireaustin@...> wrote: Hi Debbie,TOTALLY AWESOME!!! I had a hard time with the gorge days. I wan't able to eat that much without feeling completely sick. Those were after the gorge. Today my tummy is a bit grumblie, but ohhhh my is it worth it. The Yerba Mate teas seems to do the trick along with good old green tea, I just haven't had time to made my tea. This group has really been a God send......thank you everyone.JeanneDebbie Piazza

<weluv2sail > wrote: Way to go, Jeanne!!! Now ... is that 3 full "effective" days (days following the gorge days)? And which tea did you find took your hunger away? I am excited for you!!! AWESOME isn't it!!! Have a GREAT day! Debbie Jeanne Gardner <jeannedaireaustin > wrote: This morning was the weigh in for 3 full days of HCG and I am down 5 lbs. Day one I was a bit hungry, but that went away with the tea. I am really excited!!!!!Jeanne Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

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Good morning to you all,

Upped my dose to 3 mg last night. For sleep I've been taking melatonin 100mg

every night. I sleep like a log. The pain I had before LDN is still almost gone.

I have had a " feeling " like something is going on...my legs and hips.....not

really discomfort...I assume it's the LDN working. Still stiff, but what do I

expect...I was pretty far along, using a cane or walker. Unable to stand for

more than 20mins. Bladder problems are getting much better. I am emptying

completely. I don't have to " go " again 10mins after I've gone. The only

" problem " I have encountered is that I have been SLIGHTLY nauseous in the

morning. Easily remedied by a bite of toast. I am going to stay with the 3 mg

dose for a few weeks and give my body a chance to do what it's been doing.

HEALING I HOPE!!!

Will keep you informed!!

[Guest guest]

> >

> >

> >

> > Good morning to you all,

> >

> > Upped my dose to 3 mg last night. For sleep I've been taking melatonin 100mg

every night. I sleep like a log.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Is that a typo? When I first read that post from , I thought it said 100 ml

and I was wondering if it was liquid or what...

I have used melatonin for a couple of nights, several years ago. I am always

verrrrry careful with that stuff because it is a hormone and is powerful. The

tablets I bought were 5 mg and I broke the tablet into teeny tiny hunks and used

it sublingually. After two nights of even the small dosage, I had to lay off

because during the daytime I was like a zombie. The lady at the HFS where I

bought it said that means it's working. Well hey, I can't spend my days being a

zombie, so I haven't used it now for some time. I also don't sleep worth two

tweets most of the time, though. I'm hoping that once I start the LDN, and IF I

feel better, and IF I don't have problems with the LDN, then maybe my sleep will

return to normal patterns.

-Deb

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I had exactly the same thoughts, just blaming my " middle age " . Sleeping through

the whole night is just great.

Lucretia

I had no

> idea there was something wrong, I just figured it was from getting older

When it went away, I

> realized something had been wrong.

>

[Guest guest]

What is described below is the reason I use 5htp instead of melatonin. 5htp helps make melatonin at night, and then when you get exposed to sunlight, it helps make serotonin.-- Warmest Regards,Robin Little

Is that a typo? When I first read that post from ,

I thought it said 100 ml and I was wondering if it was liquid or

what...

I have used melatonin for a couple of nights, several years ago. I am

always verrrrry careful with that stuff because it is a hormone and is

powerful. The tablets I bought were 5 mg and I broke the tablet into

teeny tiny hunks and used it sublingually. After two nights of even the

small dosage, I had to lay off because during the daytime I was like a

zombie. The lady at the HFS where I bought it said that means it's

working. Well hey, I can't spend my days being a zombie, so I haven't

used it now for some time. I also don't sleep worth two tweets most of

the time, though. I'm hoping that once I start the LDN, and IF I feel

better, and IF I don't have problems with the LDN, then maybe my sleep

will return to normal patterns.

-Deb

[Guest guest]

Me too. Before I had joint pain I was losing muscle strength. Before starting ldn I had 3 short bursts of prednisone and during the 3rd I suddenly felt my normal strength. On ldn that crushing fatigue has gone and I feel that the strength can slowly return. Hope so anyway. MargaretFrom: lucretia1419 <lucretia14@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:59:11 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re:DAY 3

I had exactly the same thoughts, just blaming my "middle age". Sleeping through the whole night is just great.

Lucretia

I had no

> idea there was something wrong, I just figured it was from getting older

When it went away, I

> realized something had been wrong.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> What is described below is the reason I use 5htp instead of melatonin. 5htp

> helps make melatonin at night, and then when you get exposed to sunlight, it

> helps make serotonin.

>

> --

> Warmest Regards,

> Robin Little

>

> Is that a typo? When I first read that post from , I thought it said

> 100 ml and I was wondering if it was liquid or what...

>

> I have used melatonin for a couple of nights, several years ago. I am always

> verrrrry careful with that stuff because it is a hormone and is powerful.

> The tablets I bought were 5 mg and I broke the tablet into teeny tiny hunks

> and used it sublingually. After two nights of even the small dosage, I had

> to lay off because during the daytime I was like a zombie.> -Deb

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Personally, I cannot use 5HPT. It made me have terrible heart palpitations. It

doesn't mix well with my one and only med - a beta blocker for my prolapsed

mitral valve. I take a very small amount of beta blocker (I took myself from

100mg/day to 12.5mg/day about three years ago.

But that's just me...it might work fine for others. I have some stuff called

Relax Tea that works wonders, if I remember to drink it before bed. Sometimes

I'm too tired to think about it until it's too late, or sometimes I just don't

feel like tea. The water has to be boiled (not just microwaved) and you know

how it goes waiting for water to boil... ;->

-Deb

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Steak for breakfast with some walnuts and fruit.

Snack - plum and walnuts

Lunch was romaine and arugula salad, with broccoli, mini peppers and red

onion. The dressing was balsamic vinegar (an avoid I know) with olive oil

and garlic. I also had a cup of fruit salad and more steak.

Dinner - sliced tomato, hey what do you know - more steak - this time with

homemade pesto, a few dates, a pluot and a baked sweet potato (yes, I had

butter).

For some reason I am still hungry!

Kate

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Forrester <bigpondaussies@...>wrote:

> **

>

>

> I made it through day 3 pretty well. I did eat some eggs and oats for

> breakfast, so I felt fuller. I ate a banana and a few almonds for my snack

> Lunch was spinach, a little meat and a few sweet potato chips. I had yogurt

> for my afternoon snack. I had a big salad and some meat for dinner. I

> didn't actualy want a snack after dinner, but I had a few walnuts anyway.

> How did everyone else do today? I'm looking for ways to vary my foods so

> I'm anxious to hear what you are eating. I'd love to find some good smoked

> salmon.

>

>

> --

> www.bigpondaussies.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

I found these really neat Almonds yesterday. They are made by Emerald.

They have a dark chocolate coating and you can buy them in 100 calorie

packets. I love the chocolate taste. It isn't a lot, just a little coating

on the outside, but yummy. The packaging makes it really great for taking

in your purse. This morning I had oatmeal, with yogurt and peaches. 15

grams of protien.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Kate Lewicki <exlibris53@...> wrote:

> Steak for breakfast with some walnuts and fruit.

>

> Snack - plum and walnuts

>

> Lunch was romaine and arugula salad, with broccoli, mini peppers and red

> onion. The dressing was balsamic vinegar (an avoid I know) with olive oil

> and garlic. I also had a cup of fruit salad and more steak.

>

> Dinner - sliced tomato, hey what do you know - more steak - this time with

> homemade pesto, a few dates, a pluot and a baked sweet potato (yes, I had

> butter).

>

> For some reason I am still hungry!

> Kate

>

> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Forrester <bigpondaussies@...

> >wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > I made it through day 3 pretty well. I did eat some eggs and oats for

> > breakfast, so I felt fuller. I ate a banana and a few almonds for my

> snack

> > Lunch was spinach, a little meat and a few sweet potato chips. I had

> yogurt

> > for my afternoon snack. I had a big salad and some meat for dinner. I

> > didn't actualy want a snack after dinner, but I had a few walnuts anyway.

> > How did everyone else do today? I'm looking for ways to vary my foods so

> > I'm anxious to hear what you are eating. I'd love to find some good

> smoked

> > salmon.

> >

> >

> > --

> > www.bigpondaussies.com

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

On Oct 3, 2011, at 11:37 PM, Kate Lewicki wrote:

> Steak for breakfast with some walnuts and fruit.

I am SO jealous!

One of the few things I did not get back after my stroke last year was my

swallowing ability. I can not eat steak any more. I try now and then, but SO

far, (I'm stubborn, I keep trying) I just choke on steak and I LOVE it and miss

it greatly.

SO you are just going to have to do double duty on the steak on my behalf !

> Snack - plum and walnuts

Love the sound of those tastes together.......

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Have you tried cutting your steak in really small pieces. I mean very small

and chewing it up to nothing? I know it isn't quite the same, but you would

get the taste.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Irene de Villiers

<furryboots@...>wrote:

> **

>

>

>

> On Oct 3, 2011, at 11:37 PM, Kate Lewicki wrote:

>

> > Steak for breakfast with some walnuts and fruit.

>

> I am SO jealous!

>

> One of the few things I did not get back after my stroke last year was my

> swallowing ability. I can not eat steak any more. I try now and then, but SO

> far, (I'm stubborn, I keep trying) I just choke on steak and I LOVE it and

> miss it greatly.

>

> SO you are just going to have to do double duty on the steak on my behalf !

>

>

>

> > Snack - plum and walnuts

>

> Love the sound of those tastes together.......

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

>

>

--

www.bigpondaussies.com

[Guest guest]

*I find beef easier to swallow and chew if it is rare to raw.*

*

*

*Sometimes I slice the beef really thin and marinate it in a mixture of

balsamic vinegar, Bragg's amino acids, red wine vinegar, and a variety of

herbs and spices. (ginger and garlic, or garlic and basil, etc.) I choose

a fairly fat free (no marbling) cut - round roast or London Broil. Choose

the flavors you like best and mix together.

*

*

*

*Kate

*

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Irene de Villiers

<furryboots@...>wrote:

> **

>

>

>

> On Oct 3, 2011, at 11:37 PM, Kate Lewicki wrote:

>

> > Steak for breakfast with some walnuts and fruit.

>

> I am SO jealous!

>

> One of the few things I did not get back after my stroke last year was my

> swallowing ability. I can not eat steak any more. I try now and then, but SO

> far, (I'm stubborn, I keep trying) I just choke on steak and I LOVE it and

> miss it greatly.

>

> SO you are just going to have to do double duty on the steak on my behalf !

>

>

> > Snack - plum and walnuts

>

> Love the sound of those tastes together.......

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

>

>