Re: Can you be allergic to a hormone?

September 13, 2010

Did you have a head injury shortly before you started feeling this way? You

can't technically be allergic to a hormone, but you can be allergic to fillers,

and you can react to being overdosed if you've been running on no hormones for

awhile. Hormones are powerful and should be introduced in small amounts and

raised slowly.

Barb

>

> I've not posted for quite awhile but things are strange and I need help.

Originally I had issues where every lele I had was remarkably low:

> Total T = 44 (252-880)

> this later retested to a better 161. But I am 42 so this is still not good.

> My free T was also low 42

> My growth factor was low

> My TSH was low

> My hemoglobin was low

> My Iron was low

> So I was given 1500 units of HCG twice a weeks and was told it would give me

back my energy quickly.

> I moved and my energy never improved and I gained weight. A couple of weeks

ago I went in to an urgent care because feet and legs swelled to enormous sizes.

I mean they were huge. The doc said I had " pitting ademia " and that needed

liver,

> heart and kidney tests. Then he saw I was on

> HCG and said I am " clearly allergic " to HCG an

> d to testosterone? Is it really possible to be

> allergic to a hormone. I have stopped swelling b

>

> I feel like I want to die now. I can't get out of bed an

> d can't walk 50 yards without feeling like I ran a marathon

>

September 13, 2010

Your being on that much HCG and that dose is nuts converting into Estraidol you

need to teat this asap doing a Quest labs test #4021 if your levels are over 30

best at 20 pg/ml you need Arimidex to get this down. I am betting you levels

are over 50 pg/ml I swell up big time from high Estradiol and get some bad ED,

brain fog, painc attacks and fatigue.

Switch to Testosterone try the Androgel or Testim first do labs after your on

the start dose 2 weeks if your levels are not up into the upper 1/3 of your labs

range go more 10 grams is what most me do well on. Or do Test C shots starting

with 100 mgs every week.

Keep us posted what your going to do we can help even more.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Bstee <bstee@...>

> Subject: Can you be allergic to a hormone?

>

> Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 12:36 PM

> I've not posted for quite awhile but

> things are strange and I need help. Originally I had

> issues where every lele I had was remarkably low:

> Total T = 44 (252-880)

> this later retested to a better 161. But I am 42 so

> this is still not good.

> My free T was also low 42

> My growth factor was low

> My TSH was low

> My hemoglobin was low

> My Iron was low

> So I was given 1500 units of HCG twice a weeks and was told

> it would give me back my energy quickly.

> I moved and my energy never improved and I gained

> weight. A couple of weeks ago I went in to an urgent

> care because feet and legs swelled to enormous sizes.

> I mean they were huge. The doc said I had " pitting

> ademia " and that needed liver,

> heart and kidney tests. Then he saw I was on

> HCG and said I am " clearly allergic " to HCG an

> d to testosterone? Is it really possible to be

> allergic to a hormone. I have stopped swelling b

>

> I feel like I want to die now. I can't get out of bed

> an

> d can't walk 50 yards without feeling like I ran a

> marathon

>

> ------------------------------------

>

September 13, 2010

Thanks for the info. As I noted I stpped the HCG completely. Can't add TST at

this time as I was never given any just 3,000 units of HCG per weeks (split in

two). But the swelling has gone down. I just hurt so bad in evry muscle now.

I did have a head injury about two months before all this but it was minor. It

was an auto accident and I hit my head on the side window. The doc told me if I

was not knocked out it was not serious enough to cause hormonal issues. I did

get an MRI and all looked well except for my sinuses.

as I noted I just moved so I am in central California now with no doctor. Will

a general doc order this Quest lab if I bring in my blood work or should I try

to find some other type of doc? Thanks for any and all help

>

> > From: Bstee <.>

> > Subject: Can you be allergic to a hormone?

> > To:

> > Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 12:36 PM

> > I've not posted for quite awhile but

> > things are strange and I need help. Originally I had

> > issues where every lele I had was remarkably low:

> > Total T = 44 (252-880)

> > this later retested to a better 161. But I am 42 so

> > this is still not good.

> > My free T was also low 42

> > My growth factor was low

> > My TSH was low

> > My hemoglobin was low

> > My Iron was low

> > So I was given 1500 units of HCG twice a weeks and was told

> > it would give me back my energy quickly.

> > I moved and my energy never improved and I gained

> > weight. A couple of weeks ago I went in to an urgent

> > care because feet and legs swelled to enormous sizes.

> > I mean they were huge. The doc said I had " pitting

> > ademia " and that needed liver,

> > heart and kidney tests. Then he saw I was on

> > HCG and said I am " clearly allergic " to HCG an

> > d to testosterone? Is it really possible to be

> > allergic to a hormone. I have stopped swelling b

> >

> > I feel like I want to die now. I can't get out of bed

> > an

> > d can't walk 50 yards without feeling like I ran a

> > marathon

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

September 13, 2010

I am hypopituitary due to an auto accident and my MRI was good. Look in the

Database section at the home page on the left. In this is a list of Dr.'s men

here see. Dr. M is one dam good Dr. and in Ca. if you can get to see him he is

the best.

http://www.definitivemind.com/forums/index.php

Yes any Dr. should order this test for you.

The pain your having might be from your low testosterone levels this is one big

side effect you need testosterone to support your joints and muscles.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Bstee <bstee@...>

> Subject: Re: Can you be allergic to a hormone?

>

> Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 2:35 PM

> Thanks for the info. As I noted

> I stpped the HCG completely. Can't add TST at this

> time as I was never given any just 3,000 units of HCG per

> weeks (split in two). But the swelling has gone

> down. I just hurt so bad in evry muscle now.

>

> I did have a head injury about two months before all this

> but it was minor. It was an auto accident and I hit my

> head on the side window. The doc told me if I was not

> knocked out it was not serious enough to cause hormonal

> issues. I did get an MRI and all looked well except

> for my sinuses.

>

> as I noted I just moved so I am in central California now

> with no doctor. Will a general doc order this Quest

> lab if I bring in my blood work or should I try to find some

> other type of doc? Thanks for any and all help

>

> >

> > > From: Bstee <.>

> > > Subject: Can you be allergic to a

> hormone?

> > > To:

> > > Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 12:36 PM

> > > I've not posted for quite awhile but

> > > things are strange and I need help. Originally

> I had

> > > issues where every lele I had was remarkably

> low:

> > > Total T = 44 (252-880)

> > > this later retested to a better 161. But I am

> 42 so

> > > this is still not good.

> > > My free T was also low 42

> > > My growth factor was low

> > > My TSH was low

> > > My hemoglobin was low

> > > My Iron was low

> > > So I was given 1500 units of HCG twice a weeks

> and was told

> > > it would give me back my energy quickly.

> > > I moved and my energy never improved and I

> gained

> > > weight. A couple of weeks ago I went in to an

> urgent

> > > care because feet and legs swelled to enormous

> sizes.

> > > I mean they were huge. The doc said I had

> " pitting

> > > ademia " and that needed liver,

> > > heart and kidney tests. Then he saw I was

> on

> > > HCG and said I am " clearly allergic " to HCG an

> > > d to testosterone? Is it really possible to be

> > > allergic to a hormone. I have stopped swelling

> b

> > >

> > > I feel like I want to die now. I can't get out

> of bed

> > > an

> > > d can't walk 50 yards without feeling like I ran

> a

> > > marathon

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

September 13, 2010

I agree with Phil that your dosages of HCG are way too big and are

converting to estradiols.

Back before I found a good doctor, my estradiol level was 115. My legs and

feet swelled so much that I couldn't even get my shoes on (I had to wear

sandals and couldn't put the straps over the top of my feet because the

straps weren't long enough). I kept telling my doctors that I thought I had

high estradiols, but they disagreed and said they wouldn't prescribe

Arimidex anyway because it would be an off-label use.

I had an EKG, Electro Cardiogram, Ultrasound of my legs looking for clots,

blood tests for liver/kidney/etc., etc. Doctors tried changing my blood

pressure medicine to a Calcium channel blocker, but that made the swelling

worse. Then, they prescribed diuretics. This helped a little, but not

completely (and of course, then I had to go to the bathroom all the time

with very sore legs and feet!).

Once I started Arimidex, the swelling went away completely and I don't use

any diuretics anymore. Actually, one way I can tell if my estradiols are

getting too high is if I see that the tops of my feet are getting a little

swollen (to the point where I can't see the blood vessels anymore) or if my

ankles are getting a little swollen.

Some other less common signs of high estradiols that I experienced:

.. Higher blood pressure - my current doctor said that my high blood

pressure was probably a result of my estradiols being too high for such a

long time

.. Dizziness - estradiols cause water retention and this caused me to

get fluid in my ears, too

.. Feeling like it was more difficult to breath - almost like the

start of an asthma attack - again due to water retention around the lungs.

I used to take Advair (an asthma medicine) and my inhaler every day. Once I

got my estradiols under control, I stopped the Advair and only use my

inhaler once or twice every month now.