Re: Should I wear a patch when I get tested?

[Guest guest]

When I was on the patch I did labs in the morning with the patch on but I did

not put the patch on the arm they take the blood from. When I was on the patch

it was a bitch. They fell off when I would sweat other times I would have a rash

with a ring of glue on my skin taking the patch off.

I was told not to put the patch on the same spot for 7 days so I had to use HC

cream to get the rash to heal.

If your Dr. is sending you to see an Endo don't waste your money or time.

Endo's are not good Dr.'s for TRT. Most will take you off TRT telling you your

labs are not anygood. They tell you to stop TRT so they can get a Base Line set

of labs at there lab.

This is Bull no such thing I had this happen to me 7 times and each time I

crashed ended up off work on sick leave. And them labs were not covered by my

BCBS and all they showed them was how dam sick they made me.

And still they did not get it right I was told I am Primary meaning my Testis

don't work. After being on TRT 23 yrs I figured out I am Secondary my Pituitary

dose not work my Testis are fine.

Take me word for it don't let your Dr. dump you on an Endo. Your Dr. most Dr.'s

think Endo's are up on this but they are not.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Bstee <bstee@...>

> Subject: Should I wear a patch when I get tested?

>

> Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 12:07 AM

> I was tested about six months ago (43

> years old with remarkably low TST - 78 total and 43

> free).  Originally I prescribed high levels of HCG

> (3,000 units a week) but a ballooned up it did nothing for

> me as far as energy and I think made it worse.

>

> I changed docs and this one put me on patches (5mg of TST)

> and no HCG but I have been adding just a tiny bit of HCG to

> keep from shutting things down.  My question is he

> wants to have all my blood tested after a mont on the

> patches including both thyroid and TST and after that will

> send me to an endo.  So should I put a patch on the

> morning that I get my blood drawn?  Will that just show

> the exact levels of the patch (supposed to add steady state

> 450 to the blood)?  So by wearing the patch is it

> testing me or the patch?  I guess I could call the doc

> but he admitted when he saw my lab results that my case was

> over his head and he was just giving the patches because I

> clearly needed them until I could see an endo.  So I am

> guessing this board knows better.  Am I better off

> going for the blood draw with or without the patch on?

>

> As always...thanks!

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that advice (as always). I am getting my labs next week. I first go

to see the regular doc and he just is concerned that my labs are so bad that it

is over his head to treat me directly and I do appreciate his honesty. My total

TST was so low, and with LH and FSH both barely readable (even prior to

beginning treatment) and GF1 at less than 25% of what it should be and my TSH

really low he admits it is over his head to treat me. He offered any of the

three TST forms and I said I had no idea and he offered the patch because it was

easier.

I hate to complain because the patch has done wonders for me. I have energy and

can get out of bed. I can stay awake for more than three hours in a row!!!

Imagaine that. But I do have these huge welts all over my legs whereever I have

placed these patches. And the redness and swelling lasts for about ten days so

I am running out of places to put them. I think I might ask the doc to switch

me to a different form (cream or injection) as it is really tearing up my skin

but it does work so well I hate to change anything.

>

> > From: Bstee <bstee@...>

> > Subject: Should I wear a patch when I get tested?

> >

> > Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 12:07 AM

> > I was tested about six months ago (43

> > years old with remarkably low TST - 78 total and 43

> > free).  Originally I prescribed high levels of HCG

> > (3,000 units a week) but a ballooned up it did nothing for

> > me as far as energy and I think made it worse.

> >

> > I changed docs and this one put me on patches (5mg of TST)

> > and no HCG but I have been adding just a tiny bit of HCG to

> > keep from shutting things down.  My question is he

> > wants to have all my blood tested after a mont on the

> > patches including both thyroid and TST and after that will

> > send me to an endo.  So should I put a patch on the

> > morning that I get my blood drawn?  Will that just show

> > the exact levels of the patch (supposed to add steady state

> > 450 to the blood)?  So by wearing the patch is it

> > testing me or the patch?  I guess I could call the doc

> > but he admitted when he saw my lab results that my case was

> > over his head and he was just giving the patches because I

> > clearly needed them until I could see an endo.  So I am

> > guessing this board knows better.  Am I better off

> > going for the blood draw with or without the patch on?

> >

> > As always...thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes you need HC cream to put on the red marks to help it heal. But if you go to

shots do them your self have your Dr. show you how to do this. Go to Dr. 's

web site and read TRT: A Recipe for success then print it out and give a copy to

your Dr. Dr. puts this out there free for you and your Dr. If your Dr.

feels he dose not know enough to test and treat you ask him if he will work with

Dr. over the phone to test and treat you this way he will learn about this

on your dime. Dr. dose this a lot for men.

www.allthingsmale.com

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Bstee <bstee@...>

> Subject: Re: Should I wear a patch when I get tested?

>

> Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 1:03 AM

> Thanks for that advice (as

> always).  I am getting my labs next week.  I first

> go to see the regular doc and he just is concerned that my

> labs are so bad that it is over his head to treat me

> directly and I do appreciate his honesty.  My total TST

> was so low, and with LH and FSH both barely readable (even

> prior to beginning treatment) and GF1 at less than 25% of

> what it should be and my TSH really low he admits it is over

> his head to treat me.  He offered any of the three TST

> forms and I said I had no idea and he offered the patch

> because it was easier. 

>

> I hate to complain because the patch has done wonders for

> me.  I have energy and can get out of bed.  I can

> stay awake for more than three hours in a row!!! 

> Imagaine that.  But I do have these huge welts all over

> my legs whereever I have placed these patches.  And the

> redness and swelling lasts for about ten days so I am

> running out of places to put them.  I think I might ask

> the doc to switch me to a different form (cream or

> injection) as it is really tearing up my skin but it does

> work so well I hate to change anything. 

>

>

> >

> > > From: Bstee <bstee@...>

> > > Subject: Should I wear a patch

> when I get tested?

> > >

> > > Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 12:07 AM

> > > I was tested about six months ago (43

> > > years old with remarkably low TST - 78 total and

> 43

> > > free).  Originally I prescribed high levels of

> HCG

> > > (3,000 units a week) but a ballooned up it did

> nothing for

> > > me as far as energy and I think made it worse.

> > >

> > > I changed docs and this one put me on patches

> (5mg of TST)

> > > and no HCG but I have been adding just a tiny bit

> of HCG to

> > > keep from shutting things down.  My question is

> he

> > > wants to have all my blood tested after a mont on

> the

> > > patches including both thyroid and TST and after

> that will

> > > send me to an endo.  So should I put a patch on

> the

> > > morning that I get my blood drawn?  Will that

> just show

> > > the exact levels of the patch (supposed to add

> steady state

> > > 450 to the blood)?  So by wearing the patch is

> it

> > > testing me or the patch?  I guess I could call

> the doc

> > > but he admitted when he saw my lab results that

> my case was

> > > over his head and he was just giving the patches

> because I

> > > clearly needed them until I could see an endo. 

> So I am

> > > guessing this board knows better.  Am I better

> off

> > > going for the blood draw with or without the

> patch on?

> > >

> > > As always...thanks!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >