Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 maybe the " clinical " trials were done in those countries that you always see on TV asking to donate, ya know with the children partially clothed and they always have flies on their face, seems to usually be a hospital scene stating how limited the medical care is, in addition to school, food, clothing, shelter, those folks wouldn't have to much ability to upset the ship so to speak, they might welcome the medical attention,,, just a thought Re: Yeshiva Winter Break Marred By Teen Suicide - on Lexapro for a month, appear some people still miss points unless they are spelled out ... And some people don't get it even if it is pointed out. I need to vent. Just yesterday I was telling my husband about the Texas governor's mandate regarding Gardisil. Once again I through the problems associated with vaccines as well as explaining why they didn't work. Some upper respiratory virus is making its way around my family at the present time. Today it hit my husband. Tonight he asked me if he should have gotten a flu shot. I told him I wasn't talking to him anymore because he obviously didn't hear anything I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 maybe the " clinical " trials were done in those countries that you always see on TV asking to donate, ya know with the children partially clothed and they always have flies on their face, seems to usually be a hospital scene stating how limited the medical care is, in addition to school, food, clothing, shelter, those folks wouldn't have to much ability to upset the ship so to speak, they might welcome the medical attention,,, just a thought Re: Yeshiva Winter Break Marred By Teen Suicide - on Lexapro for a month, appear some people still miss points unless they are spelled out ... And some people don't get it even if it is pointed out. I need to vent. Just yesterday I was telling my husband about the Texas governor's mandate regarding Gardisil. Once again I through the problems associated with vaccines as well as explaining why they didn't work. Some upper respiratory virus is making its way around my family at the present time. Today it hit my husband. Tonight he asked me if he should have gotten a flu shot. I told him I wasn't talking to him anymore because he obviously didn't hear anything I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 maybe the " clinical " trials were done in those countries that you always see on TV asking to donate, ya know with the children partially clothed and they always have flies on their face, seems to usually be a hospital scene stating how limited the medical care is, in addition to school, food, clothing, shelter, those folks wouldn't have to much ability to upset the ship so to speak, they might welcome the medical attention,,, just a thought Re: Yeshiva Winter Break Marred By Teen Suicide - on Lexapro for a month, appear some people still miss points unless they are spelled out ... And some people don't get it even if it is pointed out. I need to vent. Just yesterday I was telling my husband about the Texas governor's mandate regarding Gardisil. Once again I through the problems associated with vaccines as well as explaining why they didn't work. Some upper respiratory virus is making its way around my family at the present time. Today it hit my husband. Tonight he asked me if he should have gotten a flu shot. I told him I wasn't talking to him anymore because he obviously didn't hear anything I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 maybe the " clinical " trials were done in those countries that you always see on TV asking to donate, ya know with the children partially clothed and they always have flies on their face, seems to usually be a hospital scene stating how limited the medical care is, in addition to school, food, clothing, shelter, those folks wouldn't have to much ability to upset the ship so to speak, they might welcome the medical attention,,, just a thought Re: Yeshiva Winter Break Marred By Teen Suicide - on Lexapro for a month, appear some people still miss points unless they are spelled out ... And some people don't get it even if it is pointed out. I need to vent. Just yesterday I was telling my husband about the Texas governor's mandate regarding Gardisil. Once again I through the problems associated with vaccines as well as explaining why they didn't work. Some upper respiratory virus is making its way around my family at the present time. Today it hit my husband. Tonight he asked me if he should have gotten a flu shot. I told him I wasn't talking to him anymore because he obviously didn't hear anything I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 There were no infants in the HEP B vaccine trials and now infants on the day they are born are being injected with a vaccine that they can't force the drug addicts and prostitutes to take. The arguments agains't the HPV vaccine have been about parents rights to refuse based on teaching thier daughters to abstain, blah blah. How about this. The Government has no GOD DAM right to force any medical treatment on anyone for any reason. Why do they alwasy seem to forget that one. They also forget to mention the exemptions that are available. Texas has a philosophical exemption. Didn't hear that on the the news. Peggy > > some people > still miss points unless they are spelled out ... > > What kind of parent would drop off their 9 year old > daughter at a local, scientific, experimental laboratory > for a weekend clinical trial? (It didn't happen) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > I'm not exactly sure, but I think maybe you should try > slapping him in the face? ... gently. > P Cockrell > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > Piercing the veil of pharmaceutical subliminal impressive > advertising is not a simple thing. > > Operating below the threshold of consciousness; > pharmaceutical advertising is a mental illness in itself: > > There haven't been any 11 and 12 year old girls in a clinical trial > There haven't been any 9 and 10 year old girls in a clinical trial > There haven't been any 13, 14 and 15 year old girls in a clinical trial > > Gardasil HAS NOT in clinical trials been shown to prevent diseases by > vaccine in 11 and 12 year old girls. > > And if it has, it does not say so; " have in clinical trials been shown to prevent " > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > PACKAGE LEAFLET: INFORMATION > Gardasil produces type-specific antibodies and have in clinical trials been shown to prevent these HPV 6-, 11-, 16-, and 18-related diseases in adult women 16-26 years of age. The vaccine also produces antibodies in 9- to 15- year old children and adolescents. Whether these type-specific antibodies prevent disease in adult males has not been evaluated. > http://emc.medicines.org.uk/emc/assets/c/html/DisplayDoc.asp? DocumentID=19033 > > And if Gardasil causes adverse reactions in males? > P Cockrell > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > Re: Yeshiva Winter Break Marred By Teen Suicide - on Lexapro for a month, appear > > > some people > still miss points unless they are spelled out ... > > > And some people don't get it even if it is pointed out. I need to > vent. > Just yesterday I was telling my husband about the Texas governor's > mandate regarding Gardisil. Once again I through the problems > associated with vaccines as well as explaining why they didn't work. > Some upper respiratory virus is making its way around my family at > the present time. Today it hit my husband. Tonight he asked me if he > should have gotten a flu shot. I told him I wasn't talking to him > anymore because he obviously didn't hear anything I said. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 There were no infants in the HEP B vaccine trials and now infants on the day they are born are being injected with a vaccine that they can't force the drug addicts and prostitutes to take. The arguments agains't the HPV vaccine have been about parents rights to refuse based on teaching thier daughters to abstain, blah blah. How about this. The Government has no GOD DAM right to force any medical treatment on anyone for any reason. Why do they alwasy seem to forget that one. They also forget to mention the exemptions that are available. Texas has a philosophical exemption. Didn't hear that on the the news. Peggy > > some people > still miss points unless they are spelled out ... > > What kind of parent would drop off their 9 year old > daughter at a local, scientific, experimental laboratory > for a weekend clinical trial? (It didn't happen) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > I'm not exactly sure, but I think maybe you should try > slapping him in the face? ... gently. > P Cockrell > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > Piercing the veil of pharmaceutical subliminal impressive > advertising is not a simple thing. > > Operating below the threshold of consciousness; > pharmaceutical advertising is a mental illness in itself: > > There haven't been any 11 and 12 year old girls in a clinical trial > There haven't been any 9 and 10 year old girls in a clinical trial > There haven't been any 13, 14 and 15 year old girls in a clinical trial > > Gardasil HAS NOT in clinical trials been shown to prevent diseases by > vaccine in 11 and 12 year old girls. > > And if it has, it does not say so; " have in clinical trials been shown to prevent " > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > PACKAGE LEAFLET: INFORMATION > Gardasil produces type-specific antibodies and have in clinical trials been shown to prevent these HPV 6-, 11-, 16-, and 18-related diseases in adult women 16-26 years of age. The vaccine also produces antibodies in 9- to 15- year old children and adolescents. Whether these type-specific antibodies prevent disease in adult males has not been evaluated. > http://emc.medicines.org.uk/emc/assets/c/html/DisplayDoc.asp? DocumentID=19033 > > And if Gardasil causes adverse reactions in males? > P Cockrell > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > Re: Yeshiva Winter Break Marred By Teen Suicide - on Lexapro for a month, appear > > > some people > still miss points unless they are spelled out ... > > > And some people don't get it even if it is pointed out. I need to > vent. > Just yesterday I was telling my husband about the Texas governor's > mandate regarding Gardisil. Once again I through the problems > associated with vaccines as well as explaining why they didn't work. > Some upper respiratory virus is making its way around my family at > the present time. Today it hit my husband. Tonight he asked me if he > should have gotten a flu shot. I told him I wasn't talking to him > anymore because he obviously didn't hear anything I said. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 There were no infants in the HEP B vaccine trials and now infants on the day they are born are being injected with a vaccine that they can't force the drug addicts and prostitutes to take. The arguments agains't the HPV vaccine have been about parents rights to refuse based on teaching thier daughters to abstain, blah blah. How about this. The Government has no GOD DAM right to force any medical treatment on anyone for any reason. Why do they alwasy seem to forget that one. They also forget to mention the exemptions that are available. Texas has a philosophical exemption. Didn't hear that on the the news. Peggy > > some people > still miss points unless they are spelled out ... > > What kind of parent would drop off their 9 year old > daughter at a local, scientific, experimental laboratory > for a weekend clinical trial? (It didn't happen) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > I'm not exactly sure, but I think maybe you should try > slapping him in the face? ... gently. > P Cockrell > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > Piercing the veil of pharmaceutical subliminal impressive > advertising is not a simple thing. > > Operating below the threshold of consciousness; > pharmaceutical advertising is a mental illness in itself: > > There haven't been any 11 and 12 year old girls in a clinical trial > There haven't been any 9 and 10 year old girls in a clinical trial > There haven't been any 13, 14 and 15 year old girls in a clinical trial > > Gardasil HAS NOT in clinical trials been shown to prevent diseases by > vaccine in 11 and 12 year old girls. > > And if it has, it does not say so; " have in clinical trials been shown to prevent " > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > PACKAGE LEAFLET: INFORMATION > Gardasil produces type-specific antibodies and have in clinical trials been shown to prevent these HPV 6-, 11-, 16-, and 18-related diseases in adult women 16-26 years of age. The vaccine also produces antibodies in 9- to 15- year old children and adolescents. Whether these type-specific antibodies prevent disease in adult males has not been evaluated. > http://emc.medicines.org.uk/emc/assets/c/html/DisplayDoc.asp? DocumentID=19033 > > And if Gardasil causes adverse reactions in males? > P Cockrell > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > Re: Yeshiva Winter Break Marred By Teen Suicide - on Lexapro for a month, appear > > > some people > still miss points unless they are spelled out ... > > > And some people don't get it even if it is pointed out. I need to > vent. > Just yesterday I was telling my husband about the Texas governor's > mandate regarding Gardisil. Once again I through the problems > associated with vaccines as well as explaining why they didn't work. > Some upper respiratory virus is making its way around my family at > the present time. Today it hit my husband. Tonight he asked me if he > should have gotten a flu shot. I told him I wasn't talking to him > anymore because he obviously didn't hear anything I said. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 There were no infants in the HEP B vaccine trials and now infants on the day they are born are being injected with a vaccine that they can't force the drug addicts and prostitutes to take. The arguments agains't the HPV vaccine have been about parents rights to refuse based on teaching thier daughters to abstain, blah blah. How about this. The Government has no GOD DAM right to force any medical treatment on anyone for any reason. Why do they alwasy seem to forget that one. They also forget to mention the exemptions that are available. Texas has a philosophical exemption. Didn't hear that on the the news. Peggy > > some people > still miss points unless they are spelled out ... > > What kind of parent would drop off their 9 year old > daughter at a local, scientific, experimental laboratory > for a weekend clinical trial? (It didn't happen) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > I'm not exactly sure, but I think maybe you should try > slapping him in the face? ... gently. > P Cockrell > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > Piercing the veil of pharmaceutical subliminal impressive > advertising is not a simple thing. > > Operating below the threshold of consciousness; > pharmaceutical advertising is a mental illness in itself: > > There haven't been any 11 and 12 year old girls in a clinical trial > There haven't been any 9 and 10 year old girls in a clinical trial > There haven't been any 13, 14 and 15 year old girls in a clinical trial > > Gardasil HAS NOT in clinical trials been shown to prevent diseases by > vaccine in 11 and 12 year old girls. > > And if it has, it does not say so; " have in clinical trials been shown to prevent " > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > PACKAGE LEAFLET: INFORMATION > Gardasil produces type-specific antibodies and have in clinical trials been shown to prevent these HPV 6-, 11-, 16-, and 18-related diseases in adult women 16-26 years of age. The vaccine also produces antibodies in 9- to 15- year old children and adolescents. Whether these type-specific antibodies prevent disease in adult males has not been evaluated. > http://emc.medicines.org.uk/emc/assets/c/html/DisplayDoc.asp? DocumentID=19033 > > And if Gardasil causes adverse reactions in males? > P Cockrell > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > Re: Yeshiva Winter Break Marred By Teen Suicide - on Lexapro for a month, appear > > > some people > still miss points unless they are spelled out ... > > > And some people don't get it even if it is pointed out. I need to > vent. > Just yesterday I was telling my husband about the Texas governor's > mandate regarding Gardisil. Once again I through the problems > associated with vaccines as well as explaining why they didn't work. > Some upper respiratory virus is making its way around my family at > the present time. Today it hit my husband. Tonight he asked me if he > should have gotten a flu shot. I told him I wasn't talking to him > anymore because he obviously didn't hear anything I said. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Babs I agree with you 100%. I knew of someone who did the same thing a few years ago and believe it or not someone did turn her in and I was glad it's not right for people to do that and the ones who really need it have to go so many years and fight. My sister had rheumatoid and it took her son,my Mom and I everything we had to fight for her and that was about 25 years ago. I think then it took us almost 3 years and a lawyer. I tell you some people are terrable for doing that. Hugs back at ya, Ev. Ev. --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Babs I agree with you 100%. I knew of someone who did the same thing a few years ago and believe it or not someone did turn her in and I was glad it's not right for people to do that and the ones who really need it have to go so many years and fight. My sister had rheumatoid and it took her son,my Mom and I everything we had to fight for her and that was about 25 years ago. I think then it took us almost 3 years and a lawyer. I tell you some people are terrable for doing that. Hugs back at ya, Ev. Ev. --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Babs, I know there are people who do cheat the SSI system and I think that is terrible because of the people who truely need the help. When I was reading your post about the lady across the street,a thought hit me. I was wondering if she is Bi-polar and was in a manic phase which shows up in extreme ways like you were describing. Painting your whole house by yourself and getting on top of a roof is pretty extreme. I wonder if that is her problem and she has just has not been diagnosed correctly. I had a sister who was Bi-polar and did extreme things like that in a manic phase and then when the depression hit, she could not get out of bed and was tired all the time. She cycled rapidly from one extreme to another and she did not look like there was anything wrong with her unless you observed her and talked to her on a regular basis. Because I don't look like there is anything wrong with me, I wonder if the people around me think that I am faking it. I have not seen this woman and she may very well indeed be trying to cheat the system but because I had a sister like I did and because I don't look like there is anything is wrong with me, I am just trying to be objective. If she is trying to cheat the system, it will come out. If people saw how I walk when I get up from sleeping or when I have been sitting to long, they would be shocked. I lose my balance easy, way too easy. I have fell more than a couple of times and I was lucky that I did not hurt myself. I told my doctor and he didn't respond with any comments at all. I wonder if he thinks that I am trying to make a case for SSI. I told him because it scared me, but I didn't tell him anymore because he did not respond the first time. I have been dealing with this for at least 10 plus years and I am trying so hard to stay on my feet because I am more afraid of the depression if I don't make myself get up. I hope you understand where I am coming from in trying not to rush to a judgement because of the way someone looks. You know looks are decieving with people who are disabled. My neighbor looks fine but it only takes a few minutes of talking to him to know that something is wrong mentally. I am sure glad I have all of you to talk too and I will pray for everyone daily. Being able to put a voice to this pain is so healing emotionally. Thanks to all of you so much for the support. Because of the Bi-polar condition, I lost my sister on April 10th 2006. It still seems like yesterday. Puddin > > My best friend says the lady across the street from her who is in her 30s is trying to get on SSDI.. for fibro.. adn chronic fatigue > .but get this.. the lady painted her whole house by herself. was up on top of a roof pressure washing it.. I asked my friend why she didnt report her..She goes oh Steve dont think she will get it anyway her doctors arent agreeing that she needs it.. My friends husband is the one who helped me get my ssdi and has helped several others. .. I am rather upset about the fact that this woman is not disabled but trying to get over on ss. oh and she is still working by the way. I told my friend that I did not think it was right that her husband seeing the lady do all this should even agree to represent her. Because it is people like her that make it hard on the ones that do need it to get it.. I also said that I think pictures of her doing this stuff should have been taken and turned in.. I think I upset my friend a little by being so blunt about how I felt. But after fighting for over 3 years to get mine with all my doctors support it just urks me to hear things like this.. > Hugs, Babs > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Puddin, one of the things that she is claiming she has is chronic faitgue.. a person with chronic faitque could not even begin to do the things she has been doing. Most people with the chronic fatigue it takes everything they have in them to even get out of bed.. But she herself told my friend that her drs told her that she does not have the things that she is claiming to have. my friend asked her how she could do all the things she was doing and her was reply was oh I am taking pain pills.. And she was back on top of her roof the very next day.. Hugs, Babs Re: some people Babs, I know there are people who do cheat the SSI system and I think that is terrible because of the people who truely need the help. When I was reading your post about the lady across the street,a thought hit me. I was wondering if she is Bi-polar and was in a manic phase which shows up in extreme ways like you were describing. Painting your whole house by yourself and getting on top of a roof is pretty extreme. I wonder if that is her problem and she has just has not been diagnosed correctly. I had a sister who was Bi-polar and did extreme things like that in a manic phase and then when the depression hit, she could not get out of bed and was tired all the time. She cycled rapidly from one extreme to another and she did not look like there was anything wrong with her unless you observed her and talked to her on a regular basis. Because I don't look like there is anything wrong with me, I wonder if the people around me think that I am faking it. I have not seen this woman and she may very well indeed be trying to cheat the system but because I had a sister like I did and because I don't look like there is anything is wrong with me, I am just trying to be objective. If she is trying to cheat the system, it will come out. If people saw how I walk when I get up from sleeping or when I have been sitting to long, they would be shocked. I lose my balance easy, way too easy. I have fell more than a couple of times and I was lucky that I did not hurt myself. I told my doctor and he didn't respond with any comments at all. I wonder if he thinks that I am trying to make a case for SSI. I told him because it scared me, but I didn't tell him anymore because he did not respond the first time. I have been dealing with this for at least 10 plus years and I am trying so hard to stay on my feet because I am more afraid of the depression if I don't make myself get up. I hope you understand where I am coming from in trying not to rush to a judgement because of the way someone looks. You know looks are decieving with people who are disabled. My neighbor looks fine but it only takes a few minutes of talking to him to know that something is wrong mentally. I am sure glad I have all of you to talk too and I will pray for everyone daily. Being able to put a voice to this pain is so healing emotionally. Thanks to all of you so much for the support. Because of the Bi-polar condition, I lost my sister on April 10th 2006. It still seems like yesterday. Puddin > > My best friend says the lady across the street from her who is in her 30s is trying to get on SSDI.. for fibro.. adn chronic fatigue > .but get this.. the lady painted her whole house by herself. was up on top of a roof pressure washing it.. I asked my friend why she didnt report her..She goes oh Steve dont think she will get it anyway her doctors arent agreeing that she needs it.. My friends husband is the one who helped me get my ssdi and has helped several others. .. I am rather upset about the fact that this woman is not disabled but trying to get over on ss. oh and she is still working by the way. I told my friend that I did not think it was right that her husband seeing the lady do all this should even agree to represent her. Because it is people like her that make it hard on the ones that do need it to get it.. I also said that I think pictures of her doing this stuff should have been taken and turned in.. I think I upset my friend a little by being so blunt about how I felt. But after fighting for over 3 years to get mine with all my doctors support it just urks me to hear things like this.. > Hugs, Babs > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Thanks , it just upsets me something awful when I think of all the people that do need the ssdi assistance and are fighting as hard as they can to get it.. and here is a person that clearly does not need it, of it putting in for it taking up the time of the ssdi personal who could be working on a persons file that does need it.. Hugs, Babs Re: some people Babs I agree with you 100%. I knew of someone who did the same thing a few years ago and believe it or not someone did turn her in and I was glad it's not right for people to do that and the ones who really need it have to go so many years and fight. My sister had rheumatoid and it took her son,my Mom and I everything we had to fight for her and that was about 25 years ago. I think then it took us almost 3 years and a lawyer. I tell you some people are terrable for doing that. Hugs back at ya, Ev. Ev. --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Babs, That girl needs to get off her butt and go the work then. I could not do that when I was normal. I wonder how she is doing that stuff? Someone would have to peel me off the floor if I did stuff like that. I wonder then if she has drug problem. Puddin ---- Babs <barbnal@...> wrote: ============= Puddin, one of the things that she is claiming she has is chronic faitgue.. a person with chronic faitque could not even begin to do the things she has been doing. Most people with the chronic fatigue it takes everything they have in them to even get out of bed.. But she herself told my friend that her drs told her that she does not have the things that she is claiming to have. my friend asked her how she could do all the things she was doing and her was reply was oh I am taking pain pills.. And she was back on top of her roof the very next day.. Hugs, Babs Re: some people Babs, I know there are people who do cheat the SSI system and I think that is terrible because of the people who truely need the help. When I was reading your post about the lady across the street,a thought hit me. I was wondering if she is Bi-polar and was in a manic phase which shows up in extreme ways like you were describing. Painting your whole house by yourself and getting on top of a roof is pretty extreme. I wonder if that is her problem and she has just has not been diagnosed correctly. I had a sister who was Bi-polar and did extreme things like that in a manic phase and then when the depression hit, she could not get out of bed and was tired all the time. She cycled rapidly from one extreme to another and she did not look like there was anything wrong with her unless you observed her and talked to her on a regular basis. Because I don't look like there is anything wrong with me, I wonder if the people around me think that I am faking it. I have not seen this woman and she may very well indeed be trying to cheat the system but because I had a sister like I did and because I don't look like there is anything is wrong with me, I am just trying to be objective. If she is trying to cheat the system, it will come out. If people saw how I walk when I get up from sleeping or when I have been sitting to long, they would be shocked. I lose my balance easy, way too easy. I have fell more than a couple of times and I was lucky that I did not hurt myself. I told my doctor and he didn't respond with any comments at all. I wonder if he thinks that I am trying to make a case for SSI. I told him because it scared me, but I didn't tell him anymore because he did not respond the first time. I have been dealing with this for at least 10 plus years and I am trying so hard to stay on my feet because I am more afraid of the depression if I don't make myself get up. I hope you understand where I am coming from in trying not to rush to a judgement because of the way someone looks. You know looks are decieving with people who are disabled. My neighbor looks fine but it only takes a few minutes of talking to him to know that something is wrong mentally. I am sure glad I have all of you to talk too and I will pray for everyone daily. Being able to put a voice to this pain is so healing emotionally. Thanks to all of you so much for the support. Because of the Bi-polar condition, I lost my sister on April 10th 2006. It still seems like yesterday. Puddin > > My best friend says the lady across the street from her who is in her 30s is trying to get on SSDI.. for fibro.. adn chronic fatigue > .but get this.. the lady painted her whole house by herself. was up on top of a roof pressure washing it.. I asked my friend why she didnt report her..She goes oh Steve dont think she will get it anyway her doctors arent agreeing that she needs it.. My friends husband is the one who helped me get my ssdi and has helped several others. .. I am rather upset about the fact that this woman is not disabled but trying to get over on ss. oh and she is still working by the way. I told my friend that I did not think it was right that her husband seeing the lady do all this should even agree to represent her. Because it is people like her that make it hard on the ones that do need it to get it.. I also said that I think pictures of her doing this stuff should have been taken and turned in.. I think I upset my friend a little by being so blunt about how I felt. But after fighting for over 3 years to get mine with all my doctors support it just urks me to hear things like this.. > Hugs, Babs > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 At 07:23 PM 7/3/07, you wrote: >My best friend says the lady across the street from her who is in >her 30s is trying to get on SSDI.. for fibro.. adn chronic fatigue >.but get this.. the lady painted her whole house by herself. was up >on top of a roof pressure washing it.. I'm a little late to this conversation. Knowing how hard I had to fight, I would turn in someone like this. It makes it harder for those who need it, and also makes it seem like many are like this, not few. I personally know of some Uncles and cousins who live a few counties away in a more rural area. They are on SSDI even though they can Ride their Harleys, their snowmobiles, chop wood, play softball, carry a deer out of the woods, etc it's maddening. I can barely ride in a car, let alone some type of recreational vehicle. The one with the Harley his name is Ray, got his decision in less than 1 year. I guess the best we can do is take that anger and put it into our own case/ lives. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Dave, How did Ray get his SSDI so fast? Have you been able to talk to him to see what he did or how he went about it? I would be courious to know what road he took to do that. Puddin ---- Cruikshank <d.cruikshank@...> wrote: ============= At 07:23 PM 7/3/07, you wrote: >My best friend says the lady across the street from her who is in >her 30s is trying to get on SSDI.. for fibro.. adn chronic fatigue >.but get this.. the lady painted her whole house by herself. was up >on top of a roof pressure washing it.. I'm a little late to this conversation. Knowing how hard I had to fight, I would turn in someone like this. It makes it harder for those who need it, and also makes it seem like many are like this, not few. I personally know of some Uncles and cousins who live a few counties away in a more rural area. They are on SSDI even though they can Ride their Harleys, their snowmobiles, chop wood, play softball, carry a deer out of the woods, etc it's maddening. I can barely ride in a car, let alone some type of recreational vehicle. The one with the Harley his name is Ray, got his decision in less than 1 year. I guess the best we can do is take that anger and put it into our own case/ lives. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Dave, you are right not much we can do about the fact that some people out there apply for things that they really dont need.. Hugs, Babs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 and who's issue is that? LDN? or "some people"'s? Who's defective? surely not the LDN. "Some people" must have "some issues" WE can't help them with, maybe if we were their doctors and had a diary of their GIGO and FIFO issues. If it's "not working", there's either Something Wrong in how they're living, breathing, eating, or "something". One's personal medical HISTORY may hold the keys, but it's not magic; it is however Chemical Reactions, and the chemicals React just how they do. Good luck to them. Sorry for them, but glad for all those it is helping. We also don't know that those "some people" aren't telling The Truth, The Whole Truth, and Nothing But The Truth. Good luck to us all. It's not a prefekt lyfe Re: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown) except that some people are still getting relapses! Sheila On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:13 PM, C <covo@...> wrote: You said NO CHANGE!! What more can you ask for? As is stated on here over and over again, the whole purpose of LDN is to slow or stop progression!! Symptom improvement is a bonus not everybody gets. Guylaine Courchesne wrote:>>> i take ldn since 9 months,i am very discourage no change i need my > wheel chair every time. i do all to help me,no gluten,no sugar no > dairy so i lost weight.my lyme test was both negatif. please help me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 For myself, it's been about one week on LDN, first phase(just 1.5 mg) and I am already finding a return of energy.Surprisingly and thankfully.On May 24, 2009, at 4:54 PM, LarryGC wrote:and who's issue is that? LDN? or "some people"'s? Who's defective? surely not the LDN. "Some people" must have "some issues" WE can't help them with, maybe if we were their doctors and had a diary of their GIGO and FIFO issues.  If it's "not working", there's either Something Wrong in how they're living, breathing, eating, or "something". One's personal medical HISTORY may hold the keys, but it's not magic; it is however Chemical Reactions, and the chemicals React just how they do. Good luck to them. Sorry for them, but glad for all those it is helping. We also don't know that those "some people" aren't telling The Truth, The Whole Truth, and Nothing But The Truth. Good luck to us all. It's not a prefekt lyfe   Re: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown)except that some people are still getting relapses!  SheilaOn Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:13 PM, C <covomelbpc (DOT) org.au> wrote:You said NO CHANGE!! What more can you ask for? As is stated on here over and over again, the whole purpose of LDN is to slow or stop progression!! Symptom improvement is a bonus not everybody gets.Guylaine Courchesne wrote:>>> i take ldn since 9 months,i am very discourage no change i need my > wheel chair every time. i do all to help me,no gluten,no sugar no > dairy so i lost weight.my lyme test was both negatif. please help me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 if people would read the LDN website they'd know this... Click on LDN and MS at http://www.ldninfo.org and you will find this. Patients who are exposed to undue fatigue, heat, or a febrile illness may demonstrate a recurrence of prior symptoms, stemming from an area of old neurologic involvement. These areas tend to have increased irritability of nervous tissue surrounding old healed MS scars ( " plaques " ). Such an episode may be very transient and may not represent a true relapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 , I agree. Thanks for sharing all your personal knowledge and time for newbies on the group here. Your knowledge etc is most appreciated, I am still learning. Thank you again. Jayne Please sign the petition to the UK Govt to fund trials for LDN http://www.ldnnow.co.uk/ From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Bren Sent: 24 May 2009 22:17 low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: " Some people " if people would read the LDN website they'd know this... Click on LDN and MS at http://www.ldninfo.org and you will find this. Patients who are exposed to undue fatigue, heat, or a febrile illness may demonstrate a recurrence of prior symptoms, stemming from an area of old neurologic involvement. These areas tend to have increased irritability of nervous tissue surrounding old healed MS scars ( " plaques " ). Such an episode may be very transient and may not represent a true relapse. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2131 - Release Date: 05/24/09 07:09:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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