Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Are you sure that low T is your only health issue? I ask because my T is low, but I'm 95% certain that it's from the horrendous sleep deprivation I've experienced over the past 24 years of my life. That's issue #1 for me, and in fact T treatment has done little for me though I'm still working on that. If you're sure it is T and T alone, then fight on. But if you're like me, you may be overfocused on just a small aspect of your overall problem. > > Having Hypogonadism feels like a slap in the face from life. Everyday I wake up, do more research, and still come up with nothing. All I want is to be able to find a cure or some satisfying results. The only thing thats been satisfiable is a 300mg a week test E injection, doing 150 twice a week. Its annoyingly painful. But what can ya do? SometimeS I want to give up, but a part of me still has some hope that either I will find the solution and or someone will find a cure. The cure will never be found because life is all about business(Pharma). It saddens me that other people would want to make money off of someone elses sickness. > > > I am taking such a huge risk in trying to fix myself. Doctors are so usless and the ones that can help are too expensive. What are my options? Treat yourself and risk dying? Or just remain this way forever with its complications. But as I open my eyes, I feel that this happened to me for a reason. For what? I have no clue. > > Fellas, I try so very hard to find solutions, and better options for treatment. I dont know how much longer I can suffer from this issue. I cant afford the enzymes I want to experiement with. I have doctors who dont understand how this makes me feel inside as a man, and It feels that life is just slapping me left, right and sideways. > > > If I ever find a cure to this disease, I would cure all of those who feel the same way as I do. Hopeless and helpless, but I will not give up. There is an answer, there is a solution and theer is... a cure... I just wish I had the tools, time, money to achieve this. > > > > nite everyone. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Besides your T, what other blood tests have been done. I know as for myself, my T is low, but my thyroid is a little off as well as my adrenals. Unfortunately, it will be a slow process to find the right combination of medicines that work for me. You haven't found the right doctor yet. did you look in the database of this forum for a doctor that may be close to you? Don't give up. > > Having Hypogonadism feels like a slap in the face from life. Everyday I wake up, do more research, and still come up with nothing. All I want is to be able to find a cure or some satisfying results. The only thing thats been satisfiable is a 300mg a week test E injection, doing 150 twice a week. Its annoyingly painful. But what can ya do? SometimeS I want to give up, but a part of me still has some hope that either I will find the solution and or someone will find a cure. The cure will never be found because life is all about business(Pharma). It saddens me that other people would want to make money off of someone elses sickness. > > > I am taking such a huge risk in trying to fix myself. Doctors are so usless and the ones that can help are too expensive. What are my options? Treat yourself and risk dying? Or just remain this way forever with its complications. But as I open my eyes, I feel that this happened to me for a reason. For what? I have no clue. > > Fellas, I try so very hard to find solutions, and better options for treatment. I dont know how much longer I can suffer from this issue. I cant afford the enzymes I want to experiement with. I have doctors who dont understand how this makes me feel inside as a man, and It feels that life is just slapping me left, right and sideways. > > > If I ever find a cure to this disease, I would cure all of those who feel the same way as I do. Hopeless and helpless, but I will not give up. There is an answer, there is a solution and theer is... a cure... I just wish I had the tools, time, money to achieve this. > > > > nite everyone. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Get your estrogen E2, RBC, & Hemocrit tested. E2 is probably way over 50. 300mg T per week is high in my opinion. I do about 150mg. Use a 27ga x 9/16 needle on a 1cc syringe. Draw air from the top of the alcohol bottle. Shoot it into the Testosterone vial. Then draw out the T, is the " T " is kept at room temp it will take about a minute or less to come out. Wipe the thigh area with alcohol & inject the " T " slowly. No pain no black & blues. > > Having Hypogonadism feels like a slap in the face from life. Everyday I wake up, do more research, and still come up with nothing. All I want is to be able to find a cure or some satisfying results. The only thing thats been satisfiable is a 300mg a week test E injection, doing 150 twice a week. Its annoyingly painful. But what can ya do? SometimeS I want to give up, but a part of me still has some hope that either I will find the solution and or someone will find a cure. The cure will never be found because life is all about business(Pharma). It saddens me that other people would want to make money off of someone elses sickness. > > > I am taking such a huge risk in trying to fix myself. Doctors are so usless and the ones that can help are too expensive. What are my options? Treat yourself and risk dying? Or just remain this way forever with its complications. But as I open my eyes, I feel that this happened to me for a reason. For what? I have no clue. > > Fellas, I try so very hard to find solutions, and better options for treatment. I dont know how much longer I can suffer from this issue. I cant afford the enzymes I want to experiement with. I have doctors who dont understand how this makes me feel inside as a man, and It feels that life is just slapping me left, right and sideways. > > > If I ever find a cure to this disease, I would cure all of those who feel the same way as I do. Hopeless and helpless, but I will not give up. There is an answer, there is a solution and theer is... a cure... I just wish I had the tools, time, money to achieve this. > > > > nite everyone. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 at least with cancer one is given a clear cut diagnosis and taken seriously. Doctors don't even know where to begin when you talk the endocrine system, reproduction in particular. It is as though we suffer from a sickness, a sickness that you don't wake up from the next day recovered like a common cold. ________________________________ From: vadielunn <trance325@...> Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 2:50:20 AM Subject: Sad times  Having Hypogonadism feels like a slap in the face from life. Everyday I wake up, do more research, and still come up with nothing. All I want is to be able to find a cure or some satisfying results. The only thing thats been satisfiable is a 300mg a week test E injection, doing 150 twice a week. Its annoyingly painful. But what can ya do? SometimeS I want to give up, but a part of me still has some hope that either I will find the solution and or someone will find a cure. The cure will never be found because life is all about business(Pharma) . It saddens me that other people would want to make money off of someone elses sickness. I am taking such a huge risk in trying to fix myself. Doctors are so usless and the ones that can help are too expensive. What are my options? Treat yourself and risk dying? Or just remain this way forever with its complications. But as I open my eyes, I feel that this happened to me for a reason. For what? I have no clue. Fellas, I try so very hard to find solutions, and better options for treatment. I dont know how much longer I can suffer from this issue. I cant afford the enzymes I want to experiement with. I have doctors who dont understand how this makes me feel inside as a man, and It feels that life is just slapping me left, right and sideways. If I ever find a cure to this disease, I would cure all of those who feel the same way as I do. Hopeless and helpless, but I will not give up. There is an answer, there is a solution and theer is... a cure... I just wish I had the tools, time, money to achieve this. nite everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 You are obviously depressed right now. While suffering from hypogonadism can be no picnic, it isn't the worst thing a man can have happen to them. You can learn to live with hypogonadism, I believe. I cannot prove this, but I suspect I have suffered some degree of hypogonadism all of my adult life. The effects of this condition may have ruined any chance of me or my wife enjoying a " normal " sex life and now we are so old that it makes little difference to us anymore. Fortunately for us, our love for each other overcame our crappy sex life. And by some miracle, we were able to have two wonderful children along the way despite the infrequency of us having sexual intercourse. Along the way, I've sought all kinds of solutions/cures for my being impotent. Psychotherapy and counseling....didn't work. I've endured self-injections of Papaverine....which sometimes produced an erection and sometimes not, but never fostered a romantic or sexual mood. An artificially induced hard penis is not the same as having a normal libido where you actually feel horny enough to want sex. I suppose medications, such as Viagra work for you when you have an interest in sex. They don't do much otherwise. Yes, hypogonadism sucks! If you listen to the hype, our sex drive/libido is or should be the most important thing in our lives. It's like you are not human or at least not much of a man if you aren't springing a boner every few minutes. Well, I say this is bunk! Sure, it would be great if this happened even just for a few years for those of us that feel like we missed out on something every other man enjoyed without an effort at least when they were young. But, you know what? I'm a good man. I have two arms and two legs. I'm reasonably intelligent. My general health is excellent. I'm fit. I have very loving wife and a super marriage. -Great children and grandchildren. Although I am not rich, we get by nicely. ly, from my perspective, I have a really good life. When I start to feel depressed about what hypogonadism robbed me of, I try to remember all the good things with which I have been blessed. Be careful not to obsess about this one particular concern. There is more to life than having normal testosterone levels. Prime > > Having Hypogonadism feels like a slap in the face from life. Everyday I wake up, do more research, and still come up with nothing. All I want is to be able to find a cure or some satisfying results. The only thing thats been satisfiable is a 300mg a week test E injection, doing 150 twice a week. Its annoyingly painful. But what can ya do? SometimeS I want to give up, but a part of me still has some hope that either I will find the solution and or someone will find a cure. The cure will never be found because life is all about business(Pharma). It saddens me that other people would want to make money off of someone elses sickness. > > > I am taking such a huge risk in trying to fix myself. Doctors are so usless and the ones that can help are too expensive. What are my options? Treat yourself and risk dying? Or just remain this way forever with its complications. But as I open my eyes, I feel that this happened to me for a reason. For what? I have no clue. > > Fellas, I try so very hard to find solutions, and better options for treatment. I dont know how much longer I can suffer from this issue. I cant afford the enzymes I want to experiement with. I have doctors who dont understand how this makes me feel inside as a man, and It feels that life is just slapping me left, right and sideways. > > > If I ever find a cure to this disease, I would cure all of those who feel the same way as I do. Hopeless and helpless, but I will not give up. There is an answer, there is a solution and theer is... a cure... I just wish I had the tools, time, money to achieve this. > > > > nite everyone. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I just love it when you guys post like this Thanks. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Primemuscle <Primemuscle@...> > Subject: Re: Sad times > > Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 4:56 PM > You are obviously depressed right > now. While suffering from hypogonadism can be no picnic, it > isn't the worst thing a man can have happen to them. You can > learn to live with hypogonadism, I believe. > > I cannot prove this, but I suspect I have suffered some > degree of hypogonadism all of my adult life. The effects of > this condition may have ruined any chance of me or my wife > enjoying a " normal " sex life and now we are so old that it > makes little difference to us anymore. Fortunately for us, > our love for each other overcame our crappy sex life. And by > some miracle, we were able to have two wonderful children > along the way despite the infrequency of us having sexual > intercourse. > > Along the way, I've sought all kinds of solutions/cures for > my being impotent. Psychotherapy and counseling....didn't > work. I've endured self-injections of Papaverine....which > sometimes produced an erection and sometimes not, but never > fostered a romantic or sexual mood. An artificially induced > hard penis is not the same as having a normal libido where > you actually feel horny enough to want sex. I suppose > medications, such as Viagra work for you when you have an > interest in sex. They don't do much otherwise. Yes, > hypogonadism sucks! > > If you listen to the hype, our sex drive/libido is or > should be the most important thing in our lives. It's like > you are not human or at least not much of a man if you > aren't springing a boner every few minutes. Well, I say this > is bunk! Sure, it would be great if this happened even just > for a few years for those of us that feel like we missed out > on something every other man enjoyed without an effort at > least when they were young. > > But, you know what? I'm a good man. I have two arms and two > legs. I'm reasonably intelligent. My general health is > excellent. I'm fit. I have very loving wife and a super > marriage. -Great children and grandchildren. Although I am > not rich, we get by nicely. ly, from my perspective, I > have a really good life. When I start to feel depressed > about what hypogonadism robbed me of, I try to remember all > the good things with which I have been blessed. > > Be careful not to obsess about this one particular concern. > There is more to life than having normal testosterone > levels. > > Prime > > > > > > > > Having Hypogonadism feels like a slap in the face from > life. Everyday I wake up, do more research, and still come > up with nothing. All I want is to be able to find a > cure or some satisfying results. The only thing thats > been satisfiable is a 300mg a week test E injection, doing > 150 twice a week. Its annoyingly painful. But what can > ya do? SometimeS I want to give up, but a part of me > still has some hope that either I will find the solution and > or someone will find a cure. The cure will never be > found because life is all about business(Pharma). It saddens > me that other people would want to make money off of someone > elses sickness. > > > > > > I am taking such a huge risk in trying to fix > myself. Doctors are so usless and the ones that can > help are too expensive. What are my options? > Treat yourself and risk dying? Or just remain this way > forever with its complications. But as I open my eyes, > I feel that this happened to me for a reason. For > what? I have no clue. > > > > Fellas, I try so very hard to find solutions, and > better options for treatment. I dont know how much > longer I can suffer from this issue. I cant afford the > enzymes I want to experiement with. I have doctors who > dont understand how this makes me feel inside as a man, and > It feels that life is just slapping me left, right and > sideways. > > > > > > If I ever find a cure to this disease, I would cure > all of those who feel the same way as I do. Hopeless > and helpless, but I will not give up. There is an > answer, there is a solution and theer is... a cure... I just > wish I had the tools, time, money to achieve this. > > > > > > > > nite everyone. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I am positive that my t levels were low.. I went and got tested and i was at 276 and I am 29. I have proper facial and body hair. I have a male skeleton build, but ended up primary? > > > > Having Hypogonadism feels like a slap in the face from life. Everyday I wake up, do more research, and still come up with nothing. All I want is to be able to find a cure or some satisfying results. The only thing thats been satisfiable is a 300mg a week test E injection, doing 150 twice a week. Its annoyingly painful. But what can ya do? SometimeS I want to give up, but a part of me still has some hope that either I will find the solution and or someone will find a cure. The cure will never be found because life is all about business(Pharma). It saddens me that other people would want to make money off of someone elses sickness. > > > > > > I am taking such a huge risk in trying to fix myself. Doctors are so usless and the ones that can help are too expensive. What are my options? Treat yourself and risk dying? Or just remain this way forever with its complications. But as I open my eyes, I feel that this happened to me for a reason. For what? I have no clue. > > > > Fellas, I try so very hard to find solutions, and better options for treatment. I dont know how much longer I can suffer from this issue. I cant afford the enzymes I want to experiement with. I have doctors who dont understand how this makes me feel inside as a man, and It feels that life is just slapping me left, right and sideways. > > > > > > If I ever find a cure to this disease, I would cure all of those who feel the same way as I do. Hopeless and helpless, but I will not give up. There is an answer, there is a solution and theer is... a cure... I just wish I had the tools, time, money to achieve this. > > > > > > > > nite everyone. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Depressed isnt even the word. Think of it as a complete breakdown of a man. I am married but only legally to a girl that I am not with anymore. And I will make this as short and simple as possible. She looked down on me as a man.. She didnt respect me as a man nor as a husband, and everytime we were in the shower, she always just starred at it. Can you imagine the stress and anxiety that just over came me? This is a woman that I would have died for. I loved her so much, but her actions and style towards me broke me down so hard because I am hypogondal. The stress and anxiety started to rise up fast and steady.. I started loosing my memory and started to become an emotional wreck. I developed even stronger insomnia. I am 98 percent of the time sad, helpless, and so lonley and weak. I started forgeting words, phrases, grammer, and comphrension. I became extremely sensitive, and unmotivated. As I am typing this now, I'am getting teary eyed. My parents didnt care about me, my relatives didnt care about me, my past ex's didnt respect me, and my soon to be ex wife didnt want nothing to do with me anymore. I wanted to be her everything, and she didnt let me. My coworkers and boss put me down so much, harress me every single day. So think of it this way, everything happened in a negative synergistic way. Like a domino effect and it is resulted to this. The most hurtful experience I have is that the very people whom I though would always understand and love me for me, didnt, dont and watched me fall and when I fell they didnt help me up. I feel lost and weak. I can't even rememmber what it feels like to be me again. I am a giant ball of negative emotions that just take over me and I try to fight every day to think positive, to be happy, to feel connected but I end up loosing at the end of the day. If you are with a woman who accepts you for you.. That does NOT use your weaknessess against you. Who is willing to stand by your side in your worst moments in life and your best and most importantly, a woman who truly understands you and respects you as her one and only true love.. Then that is the type woman to cherrish forever in your heart. True love is the most rarest form of love and the strongest in exsistence. It can heal you or kill you. I am and will always walk alone. > > > > Having Hypogonadism feels like a slap in the face from life. Everyday I wake up, do more research, and still come up with nothing. All I want is to be able to find a cure or some satisfying results. The only thing thats been satisfiable is a 300mg a week test E injection, doing 150 twice a week. Its annoyingly painful. But what can ya do? SometimeS I want to give up, but a part of me still has some hope that either I will find the solution and or someone will find a cure. The cure will never be found because life is all about business(Pharma). It saddens me that other people would want to make money off of someone elses sickness. > > > > > > I am taking such a huge risk in trying to fix myself. Doctors are so usless and the ones that can help are too expensive. What are my options? Treat yourself and risk dying? Or just remain this way forever with its complications. But as I open my eyes, I feel that this happened to me for a reason. For what? I have no clue. > > > > Fellas, I try so very hard to find solutions, and better options for treatment. I dont know how much longer I can suffer from this issue. I cant afford the enzymes I want to experiement with. I have doctors who dont understand how this makes me feel inside as a man, and It feels that life is just slapping me left, right and sideways. > > > > > > If I ever find a cure to this disease, I would cure all of those who feel the same way as I do. Hopeless and helpless, but I will not give up. There is an answer, there is a solution and theer is... a cure... I just wish I had the tools, time, money to achieve this. > > > > > > > > nite everyone. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 If I can come back from all that crap people do when one is sick anyone can. Here is a link to my story and an up date to my Heart Sugary. http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=9239Co-Moderator Phil Re: Sad times Depressed isnt even the word. Think of it as a complete breakdown of a man. I am married but only legally to a girl that I am not with anymore. And I will make this as short and simple as possible. She looked down on me as a man.. She didnt respect me as a man nor as a husband, and everytime we were in the shower, she always just starred at it. Can you imagine the stress and anxiety that just over came me? This is a woman that I would have died for. I loved her so much, but her actions and style towards me broke me down so hard because I am hypogondal. The stress and anxiety started to rise up fast and steady.. I started loosing my memory and started to become an emotional wreck. I developed even stronger insomnia. I am 98 percent of the time sad, helpless, and so lonley and weak. I started forgeting words, phrases, grammer, and comphrension. I became extremely sensitive, and unmotivated. As I am typing this now, I'am getting teary eyed. My parents didnt care about me, my relatives didnt care about me, my past ex's didnt respect me, and my soon to be ex wife didnt want nothing to do with me anymore. I wanted to be her everything, and she didnt let me. My coworkers and boss put me down so much, harress me every single day. So think of it this way, everything happened in a negative synergistic way. Like a domino effect and it is resulted to this. The most hurtful experience I have is that the very people whom I though would always understand and love me for me, didnt, dont and watched me fall and when I fell they didnt help me up. I feel lost and weak. I can't even rememmber what it feels like to be me again. I am a giant ball of negative emotions that just take over me and I try to fight every day to think positive, to be happy, to feel connected but I end up loosing at the end of the day. If you are with a woman who accepts you for you.. That does NOT use your weaknessess against you. Who is willing to stand by your side in your worst moments in life and your best and most importantly, a woman who truly understands you and respects you as her one and only true love.. Then that is the type woman to cherrish forever in your heart. True love is the most rarest form of love and the strongest in exsistence. It can heal you or kill you. I am and will always walk alone. > > > > Having Hypogonadism feels like a slap in the face from life. Everyday I wake up, do more research, and still come up with nothing. All I want is to be able to find a cure or some satisfying results. The only thing thats been satisfiable is a 300mg a week test E injection, doing 150 twice a week. Its annoyingly painful. But what can ya do? SometimeS I want to give up, but a part of me still has some hope that either I will find the solution and or someone will find a cure. The cure will never be found because life is all about business(Pharma). It saddens me that other people would want to make money off of someone elses sickness. > > > > > > I am taking such a huge risk in trying to fix myself. Doctors are so usless and the ones that can help are too expensive. What are my options? Treat yourself and risk dying? Or just remain this way forever with its complications. But as I open my eyes, I feel that this happened to me for a reason. For what? I have no clue. > > > > Fellas, I try so very hard to find solutions, and better options for treatment. I dont know how much longer I can suffer from this issue. I cant afford the enzymes I want to experiement with. I have doctors who dont understand how this makes me feel inside as a man, and It feels that life is just slapping me left, right and sideways. > > > > > > If I ever find a cure to this disease, I would cure all of those who feel the same way as I do. Hopeless and helpless, but I will not give up. There is an answer, there is a solution and theer is... a cure... I just wish I had the tools, time, money to achieve this. > > > > > > > > nite everyone. > > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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