Re: Need Help: Esridiol, nipples and testosterone Question

[Guest guest]

Yes your on the higher side some men do fine up to 30 pg/ml I don't anything

over 20 pg/ml I have a problem. If you don't have night time and morning wood

then your levels are to high. I gage my Estradiol E2 levels by my wood I find

this is the best gage for this problem. When you take Arimidex or Indolplex/DIM

to being this down you can go to low and this is just as bad. But going to low

will kill your wood dead your penis will go into hiding and you can't get it up

taking Viagra. So it's easy to tell when your going to low. And going to low

is just as bad for you as to high. Your joints can hurt and you can have bone

loss if your to low for a very long time.

As for your Dr. if she was not up for testing this your wasting your time

talking about it with her. But one reason you might me to high is this dam big

shot you do every 2 weeks. Doing 200mgs a lot of this big shot will convert

into Estradiol E2 it's made from Testosterone. So ask her to show you how to do

your own shots and do them 100 mgs per week. Doing this will keep you more

leveled and hold down the E2 levels.

Even in the AACE Guidelines on page 11 it starts to do shot every 7 to 10 days

to keep you off this roller coaster ride up after the shot only to fall very low

by the next one.

http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm

Most of us men do are own shots and shoot into the thigh.

As this E2 goes up so dose your SHBG levels and this binds up your Free

Testosterone levels.

So here is what I would do if I were you get some Indolplex/DIM. Take one

tablet at dinner time and when you are lower you will get some dam strong night

time and morning wood the kind that will wake you up and you can hand a coat on

it. This means your at your best levels. Your nipple problem will go away and

your Free T levels will go up.

Keep a log on what your taking and how your wood is doing so you can tell if you

go to low. If you lose your wood stop the DIM until it comes back then that day

go back on it but cut the tablet in half.

When my E2 levels are to high I have had in the past a Panic Attack problem.

The feelings of high E2 set me off and I feel Panic feelings most of the day and

at times will have an attack. I sweat and look red on the upper parts of my

body and face, have sore and hard nipples even will break out in a rash on my

legs and under my arms on the side of my body. I also had some bad ED problems

from it and could not reach an orgasm and had BPH my voiding was slow and I had

one bladder infection after the other. All of this went on for about 10 yrs

until I found out my E2 levels were very high getting them down I got my sex

life back feel better and my Prostate when down in size.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: csgelber@... <csgelber@...>

> Subject: Need Help: Esridiol, nipples and testosterone Question

>

> Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 9:21 PM

>

>

> Got my Esridiol checked (did this on my own, after one

> doctor laughed at me for asking for it and then denied it)

> and it came back 36.2 pg/ml reference interval of 7.6-42.6

>

> Have been getting T injections of 200 MG twice a

> month.  Thinking (afraid) my nipples are darker,firmer

> and looking more femanine. Not sure if I am imagining this.,

> Is this possible with an Estradiol level of 36.2??

>

> What would be an ideal estradiol level for a 43 year old

> man?

>

>

> I am supposed to get my next T-shot in 2 days.  Do I

> definetly need to contact my doctor and mention this stuff

> to her?

>

> I might mention Indoplex/DIM or Armidex. Any thoughts???

>

> thanks in advance

>

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: csgelber@

> <csgelber@>

> > > > > > > Subject: What

> is going on with my

> > > > > body?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Date: Friday, February 5,

> 2010, 1:07 PM

> > > > > > > How can testosterone be  552

> ,

> > > > > > > with free testosterone on the

> low side? My

> > > > > scores  over

> > > > > > > the last few months have

> been:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > September 30, 2009

> testosterone, total 552.

> > > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > > free/testosterone 1.46

> standard range 1.5-2.20

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > November 18, 2009

> testosterone, total 349.

> > > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > > free/testosterone 1.31   

> standard range

> > > > > > > 1.5-2.20    FSH 5.63, and

> LH 2.14.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > January 15, 2010

> testosterone, total 387.

> > > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > > free/testosterone 1.73    

> standard range

> > > > > > > 1.5-2.20

> > > > > > > FSH 7.68 and LH 3.79

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Additional information-I am a

> 42 year old male. I

> > > > > have had

> > > > > > > a varicocele for about 10

> years. I'm going to

> > > > > mention this

> > > > > > > to a urologist. I also have

> osteoperosis. I have

> > > > > not had

> > > > > > > prolactin or estridol checked

> yet.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Any guess as to what might be

> going on with my

> > > > > body by

> > > > > > > these numbers? A small 100 mg

> dose of

> > > > > testosterone helped me

> > > > > > > feel much much better. Would

> this confirm that I

> > > > > am

> > > > > > > hypeogonadal?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the great information. I sent my doctor an E-mail about this

post. I will report back what she says.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From: csgelber@

> > <csgelber@>

> > > > > > > > Subject: What

> > is going on with my

> > > > > > body?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Date: Friday, February 5,

> > 2010, 1:07 PM

> > > > > > > > How can testosterone be  552

> > ,

> > > > > > > > with free testosterone on the

> > low side? My

> > > > > > scores  over

> > > > > > > > the last few months have

> > been:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > September 30, 2009

> > testosterone, total 552.

> > > > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > > > free/testosterone 1.46

> > standard range 1.5-2.20

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > November 18, 2009

> > testosterone, total 349.

> > > > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > > > free/testosterone 1.31   

> > standard range

> > > > > > > > 1.5-2.20    FSH 5.63, and

> > LH 2.14.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > January 15, 2010

> > testosterone, total 387.

> > > > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > > > free/testosterone 1.73    

> > standard range

> > > > > > > > 1.5-2.20

> > > > > > > > FSH 7.68 and LH 3.79

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Additional information-I am a

> > 42 year old male. I

> > > > > > have had

> > > > > > > > a varicocele for about 10

> > years. I'm going to

> > > > > > mention this

> > > > > > > > to a urologist. I also have

> > osteoperosis. I have

> > > > > > not had

> > > > > > > > prolactin or estridol checked

> > yet.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Any guess as to what might be

> > going on with my

> > > > > > body by

> > > > > > > > these numbers? A small 100 mg

> > dose of

> > > > > > testosterone helped me

> > > > > > > > feel much much better. Would

> > this confirm that I

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > hypeogonadal?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

If you are doing a 200 mg shot every 2 weeks then your T spike is probably

REALLY HIGH. Most of us never shoot more than 100 mg at a time - at this level

your T will peak around 1400 ng/dl - this will cause a spike in your estradiol

(E2) which is probably causing your nipple issues. Another symptom would be mood

swings - I get real emotional like I cry easy when my E2 is too high and my

nipples itch. Where in your cycle did you get checked for E2? For example if it

was at the begining of your cycle while your T was high - 36 is not bad but if

it was at the end of your cycle then your peak was probably a lot higher.

Shooting 100 mg my E2 spikes to 56 and coasts down to 30 without using arimidex.

Using arimidex it keeps it more like 30-20. My opinion would be do your own

shots and shoot 100mg every 7 days and talk to your Dr. about arimidex. You can

try DIM and zinc and see if it works - was not strong enough for me. - Arkansas

From: csgelber@... <csgelber@...>

Subject: Need Help: Esridiol, nipples and testosterone Question

Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 8:21 PM

 

Got my Esridiol checked (did this on my own, after one doctor laughed at me for

asking for it and then denied it) and it came back 36.2 pg/ml reference interval

of 7.6-42.6

Have been getting T injections of 200 MG twice a month. Thinking (afraid) my

nipples are darker,firmer and looking more femanine. Not sure if I am imagining

this., Is this possible with an Estradiol level of 36.2??

What would be an ideal estradiol level for a 43 year old man?

I am supposed to get my next T-shot in 2 days. Do I definetly need to contact my

doctor and mention this stuff to her?

I might mention Indoplex/DIM or Armidex. Any thoughts???

thanks in advance

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: csgelber@ <csgelber@>

> > > > > > Subject: What is going on with my

> > > > body?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 1:07 PM

> > > > > > How can testosterone be  552 ,

> > > > > > with free testosterone on the low side? My

> > > > scores  over

> > > > > > the last few months have been:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > September 30, 2009 testosterone, total 552.

> > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > free/testosterone 1.46 standard range 1.5-2.20

> > > > > >

> > > > > > November 18, 2009 testosterone, total 349.

> > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > free/testosterone 1.31    standard range

> > > > > > 1.5-2.20    FSH 5.63, and LH 2.14.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > January 15, 2010 testosterone, total 387.

> > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > free/testosterone 1.73     standard range

> > > > > > 1.5-2.20

> > > > > > FSH 7.68 and LH 3.79

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Additional information- I am a 42 year old male. I

> > > > have had

> > > > > > a varicocele for about 10 years. I'm going to

> > > > mention this

> > > > > > to a urologist. I also have osteoperosis. I have

> > > > not had

> > > > > > prolactin or estridol checked yet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any guess as to what might be going on with my

> > > > body by

> > > > > > these numbers? A small 100 mg dose of

> > > > testosterone helped me

> > > > > > feel much much better. Would this confirm that I

> > > > am

> > > > > > hypeogonadal?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >