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I had an MRI done at mayo.

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From: colinpaulturner <colinpaulturner@...>

Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 6:24:37 AM

Subject: Re: Riddle me this

 

If you haven't had an MRI to rule out pituitary problems, you can't be sure that

it's down to your dieting and exercising, whatever anyone here says. When are

you going to have an MRI?

>

> Two questions here for those of you who are knowledgable.

> 1. How does Tesosterone work on a cellular level (just how exactly does it

make muscles bigger, and sex drive higher)

> and

> 2. Jewish men lived through the holocoust, came out normal, Irish men lived

through the patato famine, Hormonal problems, nope. Soldiers fought in trenches

during WW1, low tesosterone afterwards? Havn't heard of it.

> What makes dieting and exercising so much worse than these starvation and life

threatening situations?

>

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See I have been telling him this for a dam long time get an MRI but he has some

Endo telling him it's not his Pituitary WTF when one has a low LH and FSH like

his any good hormone Dr. would order an MRI.

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> From: colinpaulturner <colinpaulturner@...>

> Subject: Re: Riddle me this

>

> Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 7:24 AM

> If you haven't had an MRI to rule out

> pituitary problems, you can't be sure that it's down to your

> dieting and exercising, whatever anyone here says. When are

> you going to have an MRI?

>

>

> >

> > Two questions here for those of you who are

> knowledgable.

> > 1. How does Tesosterone work on a cellular level (just

> how exactly does it make muscles bigger, and sex drive

> higher)

> > and

> > 2. Jewish men lived through the holocoust, came out

> normal, Irish men lived through the patato famine, Hormonal

> problems, nope. Soldiers fought in trenches during WW1, low

> tesosterone afterwards? Havn't heard of it.

> > What makes dieting and exercising so much worse than

> these starvation and life threatening situations?

> >

>

>

>

>

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And or his Pituitary just started to have a problem at the same time he did this

Diet and it's not the Diet but he might have a Pituitary tumor. With out doing

an MRI he will never know.

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> From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

> Subject: Re: Riddle me this

>

> Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 8:14 AM

> Wit last name obrien you have to be

> irish and mainly people that have the rt3 issues are irish

> descent because of our messed up jeans. You put your body in

> to starvation and your genetics kid in most likely never

> disengaging.  You may have what is known as cellular

> resistance to thyroid which is very common to people these

> days.  In order for hormones to work at cellular level

> they need proper fats in the right  ratio, with

> eseential nutrient to act lock and keys.  One can have

> perfect diet but is low on hormones will not metabolise

> zinc, magnesium, and other nutrients properly

>

>

> >

> > Two questions here for those of you who are

> knowledgable.

> > 1. How does Tesosterone work on a cellular level (just

> how exactly does it make muscles bigger, and sex drive

> higher)

> > and

> > 2. Jewish men lived through the holocoust, came out

> normal, Irish men lived through the patato famine, Hormonal

> problems, nope. Soldiers fought in trenches during WW1, low

> tesosterone afterwards? Havn't heard of it.

> > What makes dieting and exercising so much worse than

> these starvation and life threatening situations?

> >

>

>

>

>

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Did they do it with contrast and with out it. And what did they find.

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> From: Matt Obrien <mattobrien71@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Riddle me this

>

> Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 8:40 AM

> I had an MRI done at mayo.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: colinpaulturner <colinpaulturner@...>

>

> Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 6:24:37 AM

> Subject: Re: Riddle me this

>

>  

> If you haven't had an MRI to rule out pituitary problems,

> you can't be sure that it's down to your dieting and

> exercising, whatever anyone here says. When are you going to

> have an MRI?

>

>

> >

> > Two questions here for those of you who are

> knowledgable.

> > 1. How does Tesosterone work on a cellular level (just

> how exactly does it make muscles bigger, and sex drive

> higher)

> > and

> > 2. Jewish men lived through the holocoust, came out

> normal, Irish men lived through the patato famine, Hormonal

> problems, nope. Soldiers fought in trenches during WW1, low

> tesosterone afterwards? Havn't heard of it.

> > What makes dieting and exercising so much worse than

> these starvation and life threatening situations?

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>      

>

>

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I had one! I've told you. One of the hypothalmus and pituitary.

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From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 8:54:07 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Riddle me this

 

See I have been telling him this for a dam long time get an MRI but he has some

Endo telling him it's not his Pituitary WTF when one has a low LH and FSH like

his any good hormone Dr. would order an MRI.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: colinpaulturner <colinpaulturner@ .co. uk>

> Subject: Re: Riddle me this

>

> Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 7:24 AM

> If you haven't had an MRI to rule out

> pituitary problems, you can't be sure that it's down to your

> dieting and exercising, whatever anyone here says. When are

> you going to have an MRI?

>

>

> >

> > Two questions here for those of you who are

> knowledgable.

> > 1. How does Tesosterone work on a cellular level (just

> how exactly does it make muscles bigger, and sex drive

> higher)

> > and

> > 2. Jewish men lived through the holocoust, came out

> normal, Irish men lived through the patato famine, Hormonal

> problems, nope. Soldiers fought in trenches during WW1, low

> tesosterone afterwards? Havn't heard of it.

> > What makes dieting and exercising so much worse than

> these starvation and life threatening situations?

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

>

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Nothing, it came back unremarkable.

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From: colinpaulturner <colinpaulturner@...>

Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 6:42:27 PM

Subject: Re: Riddle me this

 

If you've had an MRI of the pituitary, what did it show, if anything?

> > >

> > > Two questions here for those of you who are

> > knowledgable.

> > > 1. How does Tesosterone work on a cellular level (just

> > how exactly does it make muscles bigger, and sex drive

> > higher)

> > > and

> > > 2. Jewish men lived through the holocoust, came out

> > normal, Irish men lived through the patato famine, Hormonal

> > problems, nope. Soldiers fought in trenches during WW1, low

> > tesosterone afterwards? Havn't heard of it.

> > > What makes dieting and exercising so much worse than

> > these starvation and life threatening situations?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> >

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Ok then you just had this done what did they say it looked like.

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>

> > From: colinpaulturner <colinpaulturner@ .co.

> uk>

> > Subject: Re: Riddle me this

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 7:24 AM

> > If you haven't had an MRI to rule out

> > pituitary problems, you can't be sure that it's down

> to your

> > dieting and exercising, whatever anyone here says.

> When are

> > you going to have an MRI?

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Two questions here for those of you who are

> > knowledgable.

> > > 1. How does Tesosterone work on a cellular level

> (just

> > how exactly does it make muscles bigger, and sex

> drive

> > higher)

> > > and

> > > 2. Jewish men lived through the holocoust, came

> out

> > normal, Irish men lived through the patato famine,

> Hormonal

> > problems, nope. Soldiers fought in trenches during

> WW1, low

> > tesosterone afterwards? Havn't heard of it.

> > > What makes dieting and exercising so much worse

> than

> > these starvation and life threatening situations?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> >

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OK now we are back to your poor diet doing this to your body it's shut down and

in time it should come back. All you can do now is to be sure your Thyroid is

OK with the right labs and your Adrenals are good with the right rhythm of

Cortisol levels read this link.

http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/

Young men I have come across that did what you did most of them were into

bodybuilding and went on crazy diet to get there % of body fat down and were

over doing it in the weight room. Ended up like your self with a low Thyroid

and over stressed Adreanls. When they went back on a good Diet and stop the

working out and treated there Thyoid and Adrenals they got better and there

Testosterone levels came back up but this took time for some 6 months others

over a year.

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Phil

> From: Matt Obrien <mattobrien71@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Riddle me this

>

> Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 8:49 PM

> Nothing, it came back unremarkable.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: colinpaulturner <colinpaulturner@...>

>

> Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 6:42:27 PM

> Subject: Re: Riddle me this

>

>  

> If you've had an MRI of the pituitary, what did it show, if

> anything?

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Two questions here for those of you who are

> > > knowledgable.

> > > > 1. How does Tesosterone work on a cellular

> level (just

> > > how exactly does it make muscles bigger, and sex

> drive

> > > higher)

> > > > and

> > > > 2. Jewish men lived through the holocoust,

> came out

> > > normal, Irish men lived through the patato

> famine, Hormonal

> > > problems, nope. Soldiers fought in trenches

> during WW1, low

> > > tesosterone afterwards? Havn't heard of it.

> > > > What makes dieting and exercising so much

> worse than

> > > these starvation and life threatening

> situations?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

> > >

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Hopefully sooner because I'm young, at one point I even had high cortisol so I

don't think my adrenals are too messed up.

My most recent 3x cortisol which was taken last month was pretty good with a

reading of:

Morning 15  (5–23 mcg/dL)

Noon  10 (3–13) mcg/dL

Night  5 (2-8) mcg/dL

 

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From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 10:10:31 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Riddle me this

 

OK now we are back to your poor diet doing this to your body it's shut down and

in time it should come back. All you can do now is to be sure your Thyroid is OK

with the right labs and your Adrenals are good with the right rhythm of Cortisol

levels read this link.

http://livingnetwor k.co.za/hormones /adrenal- fatigue/

Young men I have come across that did what you did most of them were into

bodybuilding and went on crazy diet to get there % of body fat down and were

over doing it in the weight room. Ended up like your self with a low Thyroid and

over stressed Adreanls. When they went back on a good Diet and stop the working

out and treated there Thyoid and Adrenals they got better and there Testosterone

levels came back up but this took time for some 6 months others over a year.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Matt Obrien <mattobrien71>

> Subject: Re: Re: Riddle me this

>

> Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 8:49 PM

> Nothing, it came back unremarkable.

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: colinpaulturner <colinpaulturner@ .co. uk>

>

> Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 6:42:27 PM

> Subject: Re: Riddle me this

>

>  

> If you've had an MRI of the pituitary, what did it show, if

> anything?

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Two questions here for those of you who are

> > > knowledgable.

> > > > 1. How does Tesosterone work on a cellular

> level (just

> > > how exactly does it make muscles bigger, and sex

> drive

> > > higher)

> > > > and

> > > > 2. Jewish men lived through the holocoust,

> came out

> > > normal, Irish men lived through the patato

> famine, Hormonal

> > > problems, nope. Soldiers fought in trenches

> during WW1, low

> > > tesosterone afterwards? Havn't heard of it.

> > > > What makes dieting and exercising so much

> worse than

> > > these starvation and life threatening

> situations?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

> > >

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