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We are located in philadelphia specialiing in females and male hormones. Please

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Are you a bona fide doctor/specialist or an alternative therapist with an

interest in hormonal issues?

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Please PM me for details. We are a cutting edge state of the art HRT clinic.

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HANS and Dr. O know what they are doing. Well worth the trip.

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From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 5:13:40 PM

Subject: Re: Doctors in NJ

 

Please PM me for details. We are a cutting edge state of the art HRT clinic.

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We are a New state of the art Clinics dealing with nutritional and hormonal

intervention of degenerative disease (cancer, diabetes, autsim, Cystic fibrosis,

ect) as well as male and females hormones. We look for the cause why people are

not well and in the process treat the symptom. Many major insurance are also

accepted.

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BTW, where are you located and are there directions to get there?

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That information will be provided in email.

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Hi Hard they can't PM you here tell them to Email you or look you up in the

Database Section. Guys if you need a good Dr. Dr. O and Hardasnails are it.

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> From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

> Subject: Re: Doctors in NJ

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> Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 6:13 PM

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Sent HANS an email. I think my wife and I will take a trip to Philly.

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From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 9:40:16 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Doctors in NJ

 

Hi Hard they can't PM you here tell them to Email you or look you up in the

Database Section. Guys if you need a good Dr. Dr. O and Hardasnails are it.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@ comcast.net>

> Subject: Re: Doctors in NJ

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> Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 6:13 PM

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My endrochrinologist is at the Summit Medical Group in Berkley Heights - why not

inquire there, it would be a lot closer then driving all the way to

Philadelphia.

Bauman, , MD

Endocrinology

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Eckler, Margaret , RD, CDE, BC-ADM

Endocrinology

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Rosenbaum, L., MD, FACP, FACE

Endocrinology

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Toscano-Zukor, Amy M., DO

Endocrinology

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Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 10:48:50 AM

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Sent HANS an email. I think my wife and I will take a trip to Philly.

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From: philip georgian <pmgamer18 (DOT) com>

Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 9:40:16 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Doctors in NJ

 

Hi Hard they can't PM you here tell them to Email you or look you up in the

Database Section. Guys if you need a good Dr. Dr. O and Hardasnails are it.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@ comcast.net>

> Subject: Re: Doctors in NJ

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> Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 6:13 PM

> Please PM me for details. We are a

> cutting edge state of the art HRT clinic.

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Berkley heights is an hour and half away from us, phlly may be closer

On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Older Guy wrote:

> My endrochrinologist is at the Summit Medical Group in Berkley

> Heights - why not inquire there, it would be a lot closer then

> driving all the way to Philadelphia.

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> Bauman, , MD

> Endocrinology

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> Eckler, Margaret , RD, CDE, BC-ADM

> Endocrinology

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> Rosenbaum, L., MD, FACP, FACE

> Endocrinology

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> Toscano-Zukor, Amy M., DO

> Endocrinology

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> From: philip georgian <pmgamer18 (DOT) com>

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> Hi Hard they can't PM you here tell them to Email you or look you up

> in the Database Section. Guys if you need a good Dr. Dr. O and

> Hardasnails are it.

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> > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@ comcast.net>

> > Subject: Re: Doctors in NJ

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He may have other issues that are going one that needs to be addressed. In

younger guys the problem goes alot deeper then just TRT. Older guys just give

them testoserone and majority of them feel better automatically. My email is

hardasnails1973@... please contact me for details.

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I still think the doctor's at Summit Medical Group should be checked out -

just go onto the Summit Meidcal Group's web site and see what they offer. Can't

hurt and it doesn't cost anything but time to do the research on the web.

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From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 11:25:07 AM

Subject: Re: Doctors in NJ

 

He may have other issues that are going one that needs to be addressed. In

younger guys the problem goes alot deeper then just TRT. Older guys just give

them testoserone and majority of them feel better automatically. My email is

hardasnails1973@ comcast.net please contact me for details.

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Good Idea I have heard nothing but good things about seeing Dr. O and Hard and I

know him on the web for yrs.

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> > Subject: Re: Doctors in NJ

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Yes, but what are your qualifications? How many years did you study medicine and

what degree did you receive at the end of your study?

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Which of these doctors have you seen? What kind of care could I expect? I am

curious if any doctor in this group treats adrenal issues, goes beyond measuring

TSH and T4, will treat high male E2, believes in treating males with hCG...

these are kinds of qualification testing that I look for now-a-days. I could

use a good doctor in NJ that takes my insurance :(, the reason I ask.

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We specialize in adrenals, thyroid, and sex hormones and accept many PPO's

insurance some times you may have to pay out of pocket to get teh answers you

need. Endocrongolongist does not beleive in adrenal fatigue and many treat by

TSH only. We treat via symptoms using lab tests as diagnostic tools.

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I work in team with an MD who has been practicing for over 30 years.

I think that is qualification enough and also many people here have been already

to see us. We take a systematic approach to getting people well.

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I go to Dr. Bauman. He was recommended to me by my primary at the medical group

when my previous endrochriologist left NJ for an out-of_state practice.. He

looked at my last bloodwork and agreed that what had ben prescribed was the

correct dosage but recommended the pump rather then the androgel packets. He was

very pleasant, explained to me what to expect - all in all I found him to be

very easy to talk to.

  

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Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 7:27:15 PM

Subject: Re: Doctors in NJ

 

Which of these doctors have you seen? What kind of care could I expect? I am

curious if any doctor in this group treats adrenal issues, goes beyond measuring

TSH and T4, will treat high male E2, believes in treating males with hCG...

these are kinds of qualification testing that I look for now-a-days. I could use

a good doctor in NJ that takes my insurance :(, the reason I ask.

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> > > > > My dad isn't to happy  with his doctor.

> > Does anyone know of any good 

> > > > > Dr's in central NJ, or southern NJ, near the

> > Toms river area?

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HANS, you've got mail.:)

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From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 7:08:14 PM

Subject: Re: Doctors in NJ

 

I work in team with an MD who has been practicing for over 30 years.

I think that is qualification enough and also many people here have been already

to see us. We take a systematic approach to getting people well.

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Dr. Overbeck and HAN are VERY thorough, interpret the data and act accordingly.

They've done right by me so far. I've been to enough bad doctors, they're not of

that sort.

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Don't get me wrong, I am not questioning Hans clinical experience, his

dedication, or the doctor he works with. My only question was regarding the

Summit group doctors that were suggested. Most doctors in NJ are lacking in HRT

expertise!

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I'm not saying that qualifications are the be-all and end-all. However, at least

one piece of advice you gave out on this forum was, in my opinion, extremely

injudicious, and not at all befitting for someone who has, in his own admission,

thirty years of experience.

Also, what do you mean by a 'systematic approach'? To me that's just jargon and,

as such, meaningless. Doesn't every health practitioner take a 'systematic

approach'? Or do you mean 'holistic'?

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It seems to me that a request for educational and other qualifications

is wise and reasonable.

The evasive response was a little disturbing.

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