artemisinin

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Chinese Plant Extract which kills babesia, a tick borne infection is

> more effective at killing malaria than antimalarial drugs. >>>>

>

> Aid Agency Urges Use of Chinese Antimalarial Agent in Africa

> NAIROBI, Kenya (Reuters) Feb 13 - Aid agency Medecins sans Frontieres

> (Doctors without Borders) urged east African countries on Wednesday to

> abandon ineffective antimalarial drugs in favour of a Chinese plant

extract

> they say could save thousands of lives.

> The mosquito-borne disease kills between 1.3 and 1.8 million African

> children a year and parasites resistant to the usual antimalarial agents

> are becoming more common, an MSF expert said.

> " The cost of switching to effective combinations rather than combinations

> which are often no better than placebos, is affordable if international

> donors are willing to help, " Dr. Jean-Marie Kindermans, an MSF physician

> who specialises in antimalarial agents, told a news conference.

> Increasing parasite resistance has rendered common antimalarial drugs

> virtually ineffective in parts of east Africa, MSF said. In contrast, the

> drugs based on a Chinese plant extract called artemisinin have no reported

> resistance.

> Dr. Kindermans said present drug combinations cost $0.25 per adult dose,

> while more effective combinations derived from the Chinese plant cost

> around $1.30. MSF says for Burundi, Rwanda, Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda

> combined, the additional cost to implement the more effective combinations

> would amount to $19 million a year.

> " For the external aid system, this increase is not out of reach...to make

a

> significant difference for the children in Africa, " Dr. Kindermans said.

> However, Kenya's health ministry said the Chinese treatment was too

> expensive to be used as a first-line drug.

>

>

sue in nj

sue massie

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Dear Sue,

Thanks SO much for posting!

WHY in the WORLD are they not using the magnet therapy that Univ. of

Washington found to be 100% effective in killing malaria? (A little

to cost-effective, no doubt...) This is an amazing study - for those

of you who haven't read it (University of Washington - there is a

link at main page, last I saw. If you need help to find, email off

list.)

Their idea in devising this tx for malaria is to line tractor

trailers with powerful magnets & have people come & sit in folding

chairs. When they walk out, THEY ARE CURED OF MALARIA!

Seems someone told me that the babesia & malaria (probably giardia

too, as it is also a protazoa) tends to attract or attach to the iron

in red blood cells -this makes them VERY susceptible to magnetic

therapy...

Blessings,

Chris

> Chinese Plant Extract which kills babesia, a tick borne infection

is

> > more effective at killing malaria than antimalarial drugs. >>>>

> >

> > Aid Agency Urges Use of Chinese Antimalarial Agent in Africa

> > NAIROBI, Kenya (Reuters) Feb 13 - Aid agency Medecins sans

Frontieres

> > (Doctors without Borders) urged east African countries on

Wednesday to

> > abandon ineffective antimalarial drugs in favour of a Chinese

plant

> extract

> > they say could save thousands of lives.

> > The mosquito-borne disease kills between 1.3 and 1.8 million

African

> > children a year and parasites resistant to the usual antimalarial

agents

> > are becoming more common, an MSF expert said.

> > " The cost of switching to effective combinations rather than

combinations

> > which are often no better than placebos, is affordable if

international

> > donors are willing to help, " Dr. Jean-Marie Kindermans, an MSF

physician

> > who specialises in antimalarial agents, told a news conference.

> > Increasing parasite resistance has rendered common antimalarial

drugs

> > virtually ineffective in parts of east Africa, MSF said. In

contrast, the

> > drugs based on a Chinese plant extract called artemisinin have no

reported

> > resistance.

> > Dr. Kindermans said present drug combinations cost $0.25 per

adult dose,

> > while more effective combinations derived from the Chinese plant

cost

> > around $1.30. MSF says for Burundi, Rwanda, Kenya, Tanzania and

Uganda

> > combined, the additional cost to implement the more effective

combinations

> > would amount to $19 million a year.

> > " For the external aid system, this increase is not out of

reach...to make

> a

> > significant difference for the children in Africa, " Dr.

Kindermans said.

> > However, Kenya's health ministry said the Chinese treatment was

too

> > expensive to be used as a first-line drug.

> >

> >

>

> sue in nj

> sue massie

>

>

>

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> I wonder if anyone has done a review of the effect of artemisinin in

> relation to the use of antioxidants?

No, but I just heard Rowen, M.D. (whom is exceptionally knowledgeable

about its use w/cancer patients) give a couple talks on it at the ABEIM

conference.

> Singh and Lai have shown artemisinin to

> have an anti-cancer effect by modulating the transfer of oxygen to cancer

> cells via the transferruin molecule. I wonder if antioxidants have a

> beneficial or inhibitory effect on artemisinin anti-cancer activity?

For this reason, cancer patients taking artemisinin should avoid vit. E, but

other antioxidants are no problem. In fact, some (e.g., [organic] green tea)

are synergistic with artemisinin.

> From: " Cliff Beckwith " <spinner@...>

> ...that Artemisinin has to be used for awhile and then off for

> awhile as the body adjusts to it somehow and it is effective for only a

short time.

> ....With cancer he tells me it must be used, given a rest, used some more,

etc. etc.

I don't recall Dr. Rowen (or anyone else) mentioning this, so I doubt that

it MUST be used on & off.

I think it's extraordinarily effective (and economical). If I had cancer,

I'd almost certainly use it.

Leonard

[Guest guest]

Leonard why to avoid vitamin E. with artemisinin?

And is there a study or more who proves the effect of artemesinin?

Thank you in advance.

Gr. kees Braam

Webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

> For this reason, cancer patients taking artemisinin should avoid vit. E,

but

> other antioxidants are no problem. In fact, some (e.g., [organic] green

tea)

> are synergistic with artemisinin.

>

>

> I think it's extraordinarily effective (and economical). If I had cancer,

> I'd almost certainly use it.

>

> Leonard

>

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Hi Kees,

Re: artemisinin

> Leonard why to avoid vitamin E. with artemisinin?

I believe it's because of vit. E's particular antioxidant effects.

> And is there a study or more who proves the effect of artemesinin?

There are studies that have shown excellent results, but I don't have the

citations.

Leonard

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Here's my notes on artemisinin:

Artemisinin (constituent of wormwood/Artemesia annua L.)--1 of the most

effective cancer-healing herbs; contains tannins, succinic acid, & potassium;

antiparasitic; antiangiogenic; " essentially a method of delivering hydrogen

peroxide " .

Start with 100-200mg, and work up to at least 300mg twice a day (as much as

1000mg/day for large tumors). Probably best to take it for 1 yr. Take between 10

and 11pm . Take it at night w/fat, ideally Omega 3 (e.g., flax oil or [shark]

liver oil), but no other food; avoid eating protein for the rest of the evening.

One source recommends taking it for a week, stopping for a week, etc. Keep body

alkaline while using it. Synergistic w/green tea, curcumin/turmeric,

ginsinosides, oxygen therapies, vit. D, & hi-dose vit. C. Don't take tocopherol

(vit. E) or gluathione while using it. Don't take during radiation or while

smoking or for the 1st 2(+) wks after radiation or smoking cessation.

Triggers apoptosis; " [take] with a natural iron loading substance like Beet

Powder or Yellow Dock Root or Liver Peptone Powder...drink lots.of.water

w/electrolytes " Carolyn Bormann, ND, 4/02; " researcher at the Brewer Science

Library.wrote an article on...artemisinin for cancer

[www.mwt.net/~drbrewer/canart1.htm]....closest thing to a magic....[some

patients] need to take it with iron ....breast cancer may be a bit slower [to

respond]. "

But it's highly effective w/breast cancer, as well as lymphoma. It's most

effective w/leukemia (including lymphoblastoid leuk.) and hormonally-refracted

cancers. Especially effective w/aggressive cancers. Effective w/sarcoma,

melanoma, larynx, ovarian, prostate (but PSA doesn't drop), brain (including

neuroblastoma & GBM; crosses blood-brain barrier), renal, and metastatic breast

cancer, & drug-resistant cancers. " In Vietnam it is used.to arrest breast

cancer. "

Has been effective w/liver & kidney cancer, lymphoma, NSCLC, & IBC; very

effective w/colon cancer IF patient's using pancreatic enzymes (and ideally also

chelation). " using dietary and lifestyle changes and artemisinin...50 to 60

percent long-term remission rate " (www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/altthrpy.htm).

" `the Hoang medical family.ha used artemisinin in combination with several

other herbs to treat cancer, and eliminate necrosis material....'...indicated

that they have achieved a 50-60 percent long-term remission rate in over 400

cancer patients utilizing artemisinin together with a comprehensive cancer

strategy, and with no observed toxicity " (Rowen cited in

www.cancerdecisions.com/090503.html)

Hemoglobin levels may drop, and patient MAY thus need to take iron (which should

be taken in the form of herbs [dandelion, yellow dock, beet root] seaweed (kelp,

dulse) & other leafy greens). Dihydro-artemisinin's the most effective form for

most cancers. Artemix's the best form for brain cancer. Artemether's a

POTENTIALLY toxic form and can cause anemia. Women metabolize it faster than

men.

" In laboratory studies of radiation, resistant breast cancer cells that has high

propensity for accumulating iron revealed that artemisinin has 75 percent cancer

cell killing properties in a 8 hours and almost 100 percent...within 24 hours

when these cancer cells are `pre-loaded' with iron after incubation with

holotransferrin....normal cells remained virtually unharmed. " Lam, M.D.

Holley Pharmaceuticals (866-8holley; holley.com) is reportedly 1 of the best

brands; B-Artemether Plus (contains artemisisin, artemether, & artesunate;

expensive; by Arrowhead) is another great brand. For info on Allergy Research's

brand, www.nutricology.com/proddesc/discuss/highqualityartemisinin.htm Another

brand is www.hepalin.com

For more info,

www.townsendletter.com/Dec2002/artemisinin1202.htm (Rowen)

www.annieappleseedproject.org/artemisinin.html

www.artemisinin.org

www.cancure.org/artemesia.htm

www.healthfreedomsolutions.com

www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/altthrpy.htm

www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/Artemisinin.cfm

www.uwnews.org/article.asp?articleID=5826

www.arrowheadhealthworks.com

www.stacks.msnbc.com/news/667259.asp

www.altcancer.com/artemis.htm

www.altcancer.com/docs/artemisinin.pdf

www.cancersalves.com/products/wormwood.html

www.herbmed.org/Herbs/Herb81.htm

www.powerhouse-supplements.com/artemisinin.html

www.enn.com/news/enn-stories/2001/11/11282001/s_45678.asp

www.danieljosiah.com/treatment.htm

www.doku.biblio.etc.tu-bs.de/pipermail/pharma/1999-October/002794.html

www.allergyresearchgroup.com/articles.htm

www.allergyresearchgroup.com/proddesc/discuss/ArtemisininPDFProductsheet1

www.donsbach.com/products (Can-Burst)

www.news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1678469.stm

www.homepages.uel.ac.uk/4474p/qingh.htm

www.shop.store./vitanet/ar100mg60cap.html

www.medicusmundi.ch/bulletin/bulletin7810.htm

www.mwt.net/~drbrewer/canart1.htm

www.itmonline.org/arts/chinghao.htm

www.pluto.beseen.com/boardroom/l/56855/

www.virology.uni-erlangen.de/tsstammi/PDF-Files/efferth-et-al2002.pdf

www.hepalin.com/art.html

www.fareye.com

www.cancerdecisions.com/090503.html & www.cancerdecisions.com/091203.html

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>

> Anyone here taking Artemisinin longer than the 30 to 40 day

> recommendation? I am not clear if it's imperative to stop then ... or

> what.

>

I`ve been taking artimisinin for a couple of months now ...working my

way up to four caps a day I`m at two right now. I will continue this

until I am symptom free. I don`t believe there is any danger in it. I

also have my children on it as well. We are also using Samento and

have been on that for about a year and a half. We intend on adding

Buhner`s protocol soon. So far we have had wonderful results . Hope

this helps.

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Yes, Pam. Google it. I took it but it was so long ago, that I don't remember

where I bought it. I only had one bottle of it, the switched over to Artemisia

annua whole herb. The whole herb I got from 1st Chinese.

Jim.

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Pam Norman <pam_norman@...> wrote:

Has anyone heard of Artemisinin? It's made by Allergy Research. I had

an appt today with Dr M in Fond du Lac & along with Cat's Claw & liquid

Prima Una de Gato, he wants me to take Artemisinin. It was very

expensive there so I'm trying to find it onlii

e with not too much success.

Pam

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It depends on HOW you take it. I did the slow, longer bit, and noticed nothing.

So I went to the regimen of high dose, like 1200 to 1500 mg a day for 3 days,

then two weeks off. Noticed a little more, but noticed more affects when using

Artemisia annua instead.

Jim.

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Pam Norman <pam_norman@...> wrote:

Should Artemisinin be taken for only a limited period of time? I see

Buhner suggests 30-40 days. My LLMD has not mentioned a specific time

frame for using it & it has been about that much time.

Pam

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I took a bottle of Artimisinin close to two years ago. It just made me feel a

little tired. Then I took Artemisia annua, and had more reaction to that, but

not too much, till I also took some Coptis and one pill of Andrographis all

together. Then I had really weird and terrible feelings, that really scared me.

You didn't state which abx you are on. Some of them could be interacting with

the Artemisinin.

Jim.

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ewrightrn2003 <sienna51851@...> wrote:

I am new here. I was just wondering if there are many in this group

whom have tried artemisinin, and found it to be too difficult of a

reaction. I am also on antibiotics. Eileen

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We had Evan on it while on the Zhang stuff---didnt make a dent in his sx but he

also tolerated it well otherwise

he is 18 and VERY ill and debilitated ( congenital Lyme, pos Myco and Bart, neg

Babs tho sx suspicious)BUT as we all have differing tolerances, this may NOT

mean anything for YOU

Finette

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I just started artemesiae recently for sx that started after I seemed

to be almost well on abx. I'm taking Zhang's artemesiae, 4 capsules

twice a day, per my LLMD, which I know is a lot more than the

recommended dose. However, I'm pulsing it, 5 days on and 5 days off.

So far I don't have any adverse effects and my neurologic sx that were

bothering me seem to be becoming less frequent and less severe, so I'm

happy so far.

My caution to you is that if your bacterial/microbial load is high,

your reaction, or herx, will be bigger than if your load is lower.

>

> I am new here. I was just wondering if there are many in this group

> whom have tried artemisinin, and found it to be too difficult of a

> reaction. I am also on antibiotics. Eileen

>

[Guest guest]

I am sorry for responding so late, but I wanted you to know how sad I am about

Evan. My children both had/have Lyme, and I know how much it can sadden

parents, when you just want your children to have a " normal " life. You and Evan

are in my heart...

[ ] Re:artemisinin

We had Evan on it while on the Zhang stuff---didnt make a dent in his sx but

he also tolerated it well otherwise

he is 18 and VERY ill and debilitated ( congenital Lyme, pos Myco and Bart,

neg Babs tho sx suspicious)BUT as we all have differing tolerances, this may NOT

mean anything for YOU

Finette

[Guest guest]

Jim,

Sorry I am responding so late. Thanks for your response regarding the

artemisinin. I am taking Doxycycline, Septra, and Flagyl in a on and off

regime. I take the Doxy and Septra on MWF every other week, and on the same

week take Flagyl on ThF. The artemisinin was also taken on the MWF (above). I

don't know if there would be interactions amongst any of the above.

Eileen

Re: [ ] artemisinin

I took a bottle of Artimisinin close to two years ago. It just made me feel a

little tired. Then I took Artemisia annua, and had more reaction to that, but

not too much, till I also took some Coptis and one pill of Andrographis all

together. Then I had really weird and terrible feelings, that really scared me.

You didn't state which abx you are on. Some of them could be interacting with

the Artemisinin.

Jim.

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ewrightrn2003 <sienna51851@...> wrote:

I am new here. I was just wondering if there are many in this group

whom have tried artemisinin, and found it to be too difficult of a

reaction. I am also on antibiotics. Eileen

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My LLMD uses Allergy Research Group brand of Artemisinin as an adjunct treatment

for Babesia.  The dosing is as follows:  500mg 3X daily for 3 days on, followed

by 11 days off.  This is repeated for as long as you need to continue

treatment.  The rational behind this dosing regimen is that people start to make

enzymes that break down the active ingredient after 3 days so it is not doing

you any good after that and lower doses just are not enough to hit the bug hard

enough to kill it.  You need the 11 days off for your body to settle back down

and then hit it hard again for the next 3 days, etc.  He said this the way that

a prominant LLMD in NY (Dr. H) is using the Artemisinin with good success.

Personally, I tolerated this dosing for 3 cycles and then on the 4th one, I was

so terribly depressed that I was almost suicidal.  He had me stop immediately

and said no more Artemisinin or Mepron for me!  I noticed that when we added the

Artemisinin to the Mepron, on the first day I was OK, on the 2nd day I started

to feel really 'down', and by the 3rd day I was just hoping to make it thru the

day.  I was feeling crazy and terribly depressed.  This happened with each cycle

of the Artemisinin.

Mepron, Malarone and Larium - all commonly used to treat Babesia - are known to

cause Depression........

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My 6yo had his 1mo check with the LLMD today. He has been on refampin for lyme

and erlichiosis for 1 month. A herx reaction started on day 8 and on week 4 is

starting to calm down (emotional and behavioral sx). His initial blood work was

normal except for slightly elevated WBC count. Now, for babesia, he is to take

artemisinin. Can anyone share their experience using this herb for their child?

I don't know much about it yet, and did not think at the time to aks about risks

associated with it. I was told to expect another herx.

Thanks,

Dara