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to call someone a cripple to me is just as bad as calling someone " fat "

or " retard " is just another one of those " mean words " to put People down

or hurt them.....I don't like it either....But in life you are going to

run across the so-called IGNORANTS who use this form of language....you

just have to look and hear the other way.....and not let it get to you.

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> From: Joyce Inouye <jinouy01@...>

> Subject: Re: Salt

>

> Salt is Vital to Your Life. According to an Internet search,

How? With what search criteria? Shall I type " What is the best salt "

into a search engine?

> the

> best salt is Celtic's gray salt.

What is " best " ? What are the criteria? This is nothing but a

meaningless advertisement for this product!

> http://www.healthfree.com/celtic/index.html

Want some more garbage? Go to that site. One quick example: " heated way

beyond sun heat level in order to crack its molecular structure " .

Salt doesn't have a " molecular structure " - it's an ionic solid. The

only easy way you can " crack " what structure it has (what is " crack " ??)

with heat is to use a blowtorch to melt it, and that's hard work.

> It is 84% salt, and the rest are important healthy minerals.

[...]

> arsenic, uranium,

Really!!??

Have you had your Recommended Daily Amount of Uranium today??

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Amy

Don't worry about the P.S. I've had my tummy tucked, along with a huge

hernia repaired, my bat wings removed, my boobs lifted so far this year.

Next Friday I'm having a face lift, neck lift and brow lift. Next February

the tush and thighs get lifted. I have to wait 2 months after the face lift.

And, that's when my Mom could come to take care of me. I'm very pleased with

the results so far. The pain was minimal on all of the surgeries so far. The

scars are already fading on my tummy and new navel, they were done last July.

The arms and boobs were done in October. I opted to not have implants,

having been over endowed most of my life (this is the second reduction/lift).

I haven't regretted the decision to start with PS one bit. Please write if

you have any questions,

in Chapel Hill

3-6-00 MGB DR. R

304-155 (ten more to go but that much will come off with the tush/thigh lift)

feel great, absolutely no problems what so ever

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BRAVO!!! Fine post!!!!!!

I love the analogy and the detailed description of how you would

reinforce...

What is being reinforced is the Response class of Communicating..Especailly

for the little guys who do speak much...

You do not want to deter their attempt to communicate (or using Verbal

spoken language) if it is a skill they have not trully mastered..

Again! Loved this post!

> Message: 4

> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:33:40 -0500

> From: Jennie Ladew <jennie@...>

> Subject: Re: Do you reinforce your child w/primaries during AVB even if

it's a prompted resp.

>

>

> >

> >

> >I believe our consultant says to give the primary reinforcer whether its

> >prompted or not just to keep things going & the child happy at learning.

> >I'm kind of torn on this matter. If you don't do your job right a couple

of

> >times you get fired right? If you don't win a medal ( & all the money

that

> >usually follows) during the Olympics people might get social praise for

> >having been there but, it's " try again during the " next Olympics " . Then

if

> >you get it right you win the medal ( & all the money that usually

follows).

> >

> >Well, if anyone can enlighten me I'd appreciate it.

> >Thanks again for your responses on the other question matter. I'll write

a

> >memo to the list summarizing the responses.

> >

> >Sincerely,

> >Larry - 8yr old 's, 1/2 century old dad

>

>

> Dear Larry,

> I thought long and hard about answering this. I'm so worn out. I feel

> distressed enough that I have to defend primary reinforcers to the

> education world, and I find myself explaining everything and feeling as if

> they hear nothing. But your question is of a different nature.

>

> The question is valid and interesting to me. I hope I can do it justice.

> First, I personally never compare an atypical learner with typical

> learners. Remember, we are comparing kids who find acquisition itself very

> challenging. The people in the Olympics are experts at what they do.

> They've gone beyond acquisition to being fluent, to being considered the

> cream of the crop, the best of the bunch, etc.

>

> Not only do they do the tasks they do, those skill sets the coaches

trained

> them in and that they have practiced hours and hours and years for, but

> they have a great satisfaction in the tasks themselves. The reward is

being

> better than they were, and better than their peers and wanting

> recognization on a national level and later they dream of recognition on

an

> international scale. It's a very different sort of thing when you talk

> about a kid with autism who does not care about recognition or who is

still

> struggling with integrating the task or skills, or steps into their daily

> lives. They don't dream it, they dread it.

>

> Especially if they don't see the relevance or have any real desire to be

> good at it. Clearly the person training for the Olympics who is not

totally

> and passionately commited to the idea of being a gold medal winner won't

be

> able to do it. There is too much self sacrifice involved, pain, sweat and

> tears. You have to want it with every fiber.

>

> For most things we teach kids who are autistic or have related disorders,

> you'd be hard pressed to find a skill that they want to learn with every

> fiber of their being. That we want for them. In fact you'd be hard pressed

> to find a skill we introduce that they don't resist with a great deal of

> their being.

>

> To answer your question here is my personal view on reinforcement.

> Obviously DRO is important. If you prompt and you've been at the task a

> while, you're not likely to go on and on with praise and feeling, and

> write out a big check. ;-)

>

> But in my son's case, lets say we are working on tacts, and this is so

> hard for him, and we require echoic training and intraverbals, and

> reversals to get those tacts out. Lets say I am teaching him to say CAT

> when he sees photos of cats. And I have to prompt. It's instructional, and

> that is where we are at. I am going to praise big time, pats on the back,

> grins and nods, and offer a sip of Coke or a bite of bagel or whatever he

> loves, or usually what we are working on for mands. But, he's going to be

> reinforced in a large way. And yes, he was prompted and he was helped. Now

> lets pretend he says CAT with just a mouth prompt, I mouth it and out

comes

> CAT loud and clear. PARADE TIME. GREAT GLEE AND JOY.

> And certainly the degree of reinforcement has gone up. Now lets pretend, I

> put out a few pictures and I am laying one down and Isaac glances over to

> the left and sees a pretty kitty picture and says happily, " CAT!'

> Oh God, he is gonna get half the can of Coke, big kisses, and tickles and

> there will be no doubt in his mind and probably my neighbors that he did

> something very wonderful indeed.

> So, we praise and reinforce for prompted trials, but as you suggest, some

> times it is low key, and sometimes its a nod, a smile, a pat on the

> shoulder, a small piece of cracker, versus a moderate or large piece, or

in

> the rare circumstances, a whole damn box of crackers. OK, we never have

> done a whole box. The kid starts tacting freely for two or three items in

a

> row unprompted, and he gets the whole box of animal crackers I swear right

> now. ;-)

> I think that if you are working on pure acquisition, new stuff or hard

> stuff, or its new staff that you can reinforce for looking, attending,

> joint attention when needing help, because looking to you for assistance,

> as long as it is not a cop out, is a first sign of asking for help and the

> child is saying, I'm willing to perservere, but I need some guidance now,

> okay. Then the kid can get primaries coming fairly often indeed,

especially

> if you're also doing manding training in there. And you can expand your

> mands all the time. You might think well he can ask for a donut. Well,

then

> start having him ask for the round donut or the donut stick, or the donut

> hole or the pink donut or the chocolate donut. You get the idea. But you

> can reinforce a LOT for legit stuff there, and feel good about doing it.

> Because you are working on one task or skill or subskill, but

> simultaneously you are working on language. You just save certain things

> for the big deal unprompted stuff or really cool responses. I hope that

> makes some semblence of sense.

> Jennie

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 5

> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 07:27:20 -0800 (PST)

> From: Lassiter <jenlass_28@...>

> Subject: aggression

>

> Listmates,

> We continue to have problems with aggression across

> the board--at home, in session, and at school. This

> seems to be my daughter's primary line of

> communication, even with people who have been totally

> paired with reinforcement and can get her to work

> through. We are trying to give her the words to use

> instead-- " I am mad, " " I don't want that, " or " I don't

> like it, " and " Leave me alone. " ANYTHING you have

> tried would be appreciated. She is 6--I had hoped

> maturity would help, but this has consistently been a

> problem since 2.

>

>

>

> =====

> Think BIG

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Knees!

I have had flatback for 12 years now. I am very lucky that I have very

little back pain. I do have that gait and it is uncomfortable to stand still

for

long. I ended up with knee problems - a torn miniscus and ACL. he fixed

the miniscus but there was too much arthritis for the ACL (which I was glad

about because I didn't really want the bigger surgery) anyways, I now take one

vioxx a day, swim, walk and basically have no more pain. I did have physical

therapy for a while. Good luck.

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In a message dated 6/5/04 3:49:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hikrrr@...

writes:

> Hi all!!! I did my first shot of pegasys last Tuesday and all I had was a

> mild headache and mild nausea I hope it keeps going this well for me I have

> heard so many horror stories I was quite afraid of it I am a single white

> male to old to seriously think I will ever find anyone to love ( especially

with

> hep c ) I live just south of Little Rock Arkansas in a rural area I don't

> make it to this group too often but it is OK I have group on Wednesday where

> we are all on suicide watch. Hope everyone is doing well.......

>

Sounds like a lot of you are in need of or looking for a local support group

in your area.

Please let me know where you live (City & State) and I may be able to locate

a group somewhere in your local vicinity.

I know how hard it is for some folks, who are new to an on-line group, to

feel comfortable. I can tell you though, that when I was new to the Internet

back

in 1997, when I was on treatment, that the relationships I built as a result

of my involvement in some on line message boards and support groups, saved my

sanity and actually my life a few times.

In the mean time, if you wanna e-mail just to chat or ask questions that you

may not feel comfortable asking in the group, please do.

Peggy

Peg's Hep C Help Page

http://www.geocities.com/pegshepchelp/

: Hepatitis C-Objectives

Hepatitis C-Objectives

Mercer County Hepatitis C Support Group

http://mercercountyhepatitissupport.bravehost.com/

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In a message dated 6/5/04 3:49:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hikrrr@...

writes:

> I live just south of Little Rock Arkansas in a rural area I

I just reread your post and did a search for a support group in the Little

Rock, Arkansas area and found the following:

Peggy

Hepatitis Support Groups

Little Rock, AR

Name: Hepatitis C Support

Address: J.A. Gilbreath Conference Center

Conference Room # 8

Next to the Baptist Medical Center

(Entrance on the Southwest corner)

9601 Interstate 630 Exit 7

City: Little Rock, AR

Phone: 501.603.1271

501.416.9448

Contact: Belinda

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