Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 In a message dated 2/20/01 11:23:57 AM, liliwigg@... writes: << Crippled to me seems to be such an old, incorrect term. >> My opinion. It's just a word. Using a different word or term does not change how a person is affected. Calling my niece hard-of-hearing or hearing impaired would not change the fact that she can not hear and is deaf (another old term, but one everyone understands). They are just words, IMO. Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 In a message dated 2/20/2001 2:24:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, liliwigg@... writes: << Crippled to me seems to be such an old, incorrect term. But are people still using it? Does this strike anyone as odd or strange? Comments? ~ G >> I wish people would not use that word, but unfortunately they still do. Years ago, a lady at work referred to me as crippled because of my slight limp. I did not appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 In a message dated 2/20/01 8:07:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, ktbugg54@... writes: << Crippled to me seems to be such an old, incorrect term. But are people still using it? Does this strike anyone as odd or strange? Comments? ~ G >> >> Your right, it is an anachronism, and I think those who use it are anachronisms them self's. I haven't heard the word cripple in years, I to would be quite offended if called a cripple. I think it is one of those words that will eventually disappear E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 In a message dated 2/20/2001 11:24:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, liliwigg@... writes: > I am just wondering something. The Post CMT article mentioned the Kosovo > family and their 'crippled' family members. I am somewhat alarmed by the > use of that word in this/or any situation. Crippled to me seems to be > such an old, incorrect term. But are people still using it? Does this > strike anyone as odd or strange? Comments? ~ G > > I really really really hate that word. jenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 In a message dated 2/20/2001 2:00:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, KathleenLS@... writes: > My opinion. > It's just a word. > Using a different word or term does not change how a person is affected. > Calling my niece hard-of-hearing or hearing impaired would not change the > fact that she can not hear and is deaf (another old term, but one everyone > understands). > > They are just words, IMO. > > Its like using the N word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 In a message dated 2/20/2001 6:54:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, jege6666@... writes: > << Crippled to me seems to be > such an old, incorrect term. But are people still using it? Does this > strike anyone as odd or strange? Comments? ~ G >> > >> > Your right, it is an anachronism, and I think those who use it are > anachronisms them self's. I haven't heard the word cripple in years, I to > would be quite offended if called a cripple. I think it is one of those > words > that will eventually disappear > E > > Lets complain to the paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 In a message dated 2/20/2001 5:07:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, ktbugg54@... writes: > I wish people would not use that word, but unfortunately they still do. > Years > ago, a lady at work referred to me as crippled because of my slight limp. I > did not appreciate it. > > > I do not appreciate that either! Some people are so stupid. And yes STUPID is the word I am looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 -----Original Message----- From: jege6666@... <jege6666@...> < > Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [] 'crippled'? >In a message dated 2/20/01 8:07:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, ktbugg54@... >writes: > ><< Crippled to me seems to be > such an old, incorrect term. But are people still using it? Does this > strike anyone as odd or strange? Comments? ~ G >> > >> > Your right, it is an anachronism, and I think those who use it are >anachronisms them self's. I haven't heard the word cripple in years, I to >would be quite offended if called a cripple. I think it is one of those words >that will eventually disappear >E > >>>>>>>>>>>Yes, eventually we hope, its the same as using a racist word to describe a persons race or skin color, there are offending words still used today. As long as people say Oh well, its only a word, those words will still be used. Sorry, but this is my opinion, ~>Becky M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 -----Original Message----- From: Mommy2Adam@... <Mommy2Adam@...> < > Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [] 'crippled'? >In a message dated 2/20/2001 2:00:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, >KathleenLS@... writes: > > >> My opinion. >> It's just a word. >> Using a different word or term does not change how a person is affected. >> Calling my niece hard-of-hearing or hearing impaired would not change the >> fact that she can not hear and is deaf (another old term, but one everyone >> understands). >> >> They are just words, IMO. >> >> > >Its like using the N word. > > >>>>>AMEN ! ~>Becky M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 I hear what you are saying. It is surprising that the Washington Post used the word Crippled instead of handicaped (SP). Crippled is a lot stronger word and a word that can hurt someones feelings if used in the wrong text. Actually Crippled just plum sounds bad (probably because when I was in elementary school there were 2 boys that would call me crippled bat, boy did I hate that). But, I do hear and understand what you are saying... We can complain about anything, I guess at least it put across that it was indead a crippling Disease. It's not a Handicaped Disease, but a crippling Disease. (That word - yuk). (I'm stradling the fence on this one) ****************** ****************** > > In a message dated 2/20/01 11:23:57 AM, liliwigg@s... writes: > > << Crippled to me seems to be such an old, incorrect term. >> > > My opinion. > It's just a word. > Using a different word or term does not change how a person is affected. > Calling my niece hard-of-hearing or hearing impaired would not change the > fact that she can not hear and is deaf (another old term, but one everyone > understands). > > They are just words, IMO. > > Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 In a message dated 2/20/01 11:33:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, Mommy2Adam@... writes: << Crippled to me seems to be > such an old, incorrect term. But are people still using it? Does this > strike anyone as odd or strange? Comments? ~ G >> > >> > Your right, it is an anachronism, and I think those who use it are > anachronisms them self's. I haven't heard the word cripple in years, I to > would be quite offended if called a cripple. I think it is one of those > words that will eventually disappear > E > Lets complain to the paper. I didn't see the article you are all referring to, would they be they are using the word cripple to elicit sympathy. The word retarded is somewhat analogous to cripple. Phrases like developmentally delayed and slow learner are taking its place. Words, words, words, they come and go. " And this too shall pass " E >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 In a message dated 2/21/01 2:36:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, zenamarie123@... writes: << It's not a Handicaped Disease, but a crippling Disease. (That word - yuk). >> If your using the word " crippling " as opposed to cripple, that's a horse of another color. At least to me it is. As I had previously said, I have not read the article. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 Perhaps using the term " crippled " , the press felt it would have a greater impact on the public?? Not really sure why they used that terminology. I for one, wish we CMTers would receive some attention from the media; making headlines would be fine with me! ----- Original Message ----- From: Gretchen Glick <liliwigg@...> < > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:13 PM Subject: [] 'crippled'? > I am just wondering something. The Post CMT article mentioned the Kosovo > family and their 'crippled' family members. I am somewhat alarmed by the > use of that word in this/or any situation. Crippled to me seems to be > such an old, incorrect term. But are people still using it? Does this > strike anyone as odd or strange? Comments? ~ G > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 In a message dated 2/21/01 1:27:01 PM, lls@... writes: << Handicapped can refer to mental, physical, or emotional. Disabled means " unable " . Crippled refers to the use of the extremeties. Actually, does it matter what term is used as long as the point is gotten across? >> Well said, and completely accurate, in my opinion. It also fits with what Ruth wrote. I bow to your superior use of the language and to your medical background. Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 In a message dated 2/21/01 4:11:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, rmax@... writes: << >>>>Well E! Shame on you, whats the hold up? LOL, not only did I post the URL but the whole dang article to read, for those of us who are procrastinators, LOL, (never make it to the websites) ~>Becky M. >> Mea culpa, :-) I have finally read the article, thanks to you and it brought tears to my eyes. A beautiful story. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 -----Original Message----- From: jege6666@... <jege6666@...> < > Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [] Re: 'crippled'? >In a message dated 2/21/01 2:36:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, >zenamarie123@... writes: > ><< It's not a Handicaped Disease, but a crippling > Disease. (That word - yuk). >> > > If your using the word " crippling " as opposed to cripple, that's a horse >of another color. At least to me it is. As I had previously said, I have not >read the article. >E > >>>>>>Well E! Shame on you, whats the hold up? LOL, not only did I post the URL but the whole dang article to read, for those of us who are procrastinators, LOL, (never make it to the websites) ~>Becky M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 I have absolutely no problem with the article or the term. In fact I am thrilled that CMT got the excellent article. Let's face it, it is the tear-jerkers that will arouse public awareness. As to ther term " crippled " , I will be the first to say that I am old, fat, ugly, and crippled. In fact it much better describes CMT than many other terms. Handicapped can refer to mental, physical, or emotional. Disabled means " unable " . Crippled refers to the use of the extremeties. Actually, does it matter what term is used asa long as the point is gotten across? So, call me crippled, if that is the word you prefer, it makes me no less a person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 Lamar, You are not ugly... Ruth Warren > > I have absolutely no problem with the article or the term. In fact I am > thrilled that CMT got the excellent article. Let's face it, it is the > tear-jerkers that will arouse public awareness. As to ther term " crippled " , > I will be the first to say that I am old, fat, ugly, and crippled. In fact > it much better describes CMT than many other terms. Handicapped can refer > to mental, physical, or emotional. Disabled means " unable " . Crippled > refers to the use of the extremeties. Actually, does it matter what term is > used asa long as the point is gotten across? So, call me crippled, if that > is the word you prefer, it makes me no less a person. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 -----Original Message----- From: jege6666@... <jege6666@...> < > Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [] 'crippled'? >In a message dated 2/20/01 11:33:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, >Mommy2Adam@... writes: > ><< Crippled to me seems to be > > such an old, incorrect term. But are people still using it? Does this > > strike anyone as odd or strange? Comments? ~ G >> > > >> > > Your right, it is an anachronism, and I think those who use it are > > anachronisms them self's. I haven't heard the word cripple in years, I to > > would be quite offended if called a cripple. I think it is one of those > > words that will eventually disappear > > E > > Lets complain to the paper. > > I didn't see the article you are all referring to, would they be they are >using the word cripple to elicit sympathy. > The word retarded is somewhat analogous to cripple. Phrases like >developmentally delayed and slow learner are taking its place. Words, words, >words, they come and go. " And this too shall pass " >E > >> > >>>>>>>I don't mind the term crippling, as in a crippling disease. But the word Crippled I do mind. I have a disease that prevents my running, walking normal and without the use of braces, canes etc. I am not Crippled! Its an outdated, ignorant term. There is POWER in the words we use. If you don't mind being called cripple, then I hope your not also Africian American, because I'm sure " other terms " wouldn't bother you either. Just my opinion, Becky M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 In a message dated 2/21/2001 7:57:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, lisarich.com@... writes: > Perhaps using the term " crippled " , the press felt it would have a greater > impact on the public?? Not really sure why they used that terminology. I > for one, wish we CMTers would receive some attention from the media; making > headlines would be fine with me! > > > > I prefer debilitating disease ... But I guess " cripple " packs the punch they wanted for the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2001 Report Share Posted February 22, 2001 I don't think the term " crippled " is appropriate at all...I have very strong objections to this word! When I was in junior high, there was this terrible bully who would block my way while he was on his bike...whenever his other friends were nearby, he would yell " Let the cripple pass! " I went home in tears, feeling humiliated and degraded. Then my sister and mother have called me " crippled " during arguments...of course this only reminded me of hurtful times in junior high, even high school. This word is hurtful to me, and I too wish it would not be a part of anybody's vocabulary, especially reporters! Kathy in Brooklyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2001 Report Share Posted February 22, 2001 In a message dated 2/21/2001 4:27:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, lls@... writes: << I have absolutely no problem with the article or the term. In fact I am thrilled that CMT got the excellent article. Let's face it, it is the tear-jerkers that will arouse public awareness. As to ther term " crippled " , I will be the first to say that I am old, fat, ugly, and crippled. In fact it much better describes CMT than many other terms. Handicapped can refer to mental, physical, or emotional. Disabled means " unable " . Crippled refers to the use of the extremeties. Actually, does it matter what term is used asa long as the point is gotten across? So, call me crippled, if that is the word you prefer, it makes me no less a person. >> It should matter to you. If you were African American, would you want people to call you a N? A person with any kind of disability is a " PERSON " They do not have to be referred to as a cripple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2001 Report Share Posted February 22, 2001 In a message dated 2/22/2001 1:03:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, warrenre@... writes: << " Never be ashamed of the > temple you were given to live in " is my philosophy. >> I'm not ashamed of my body, but people need to stop making fun of others that are less fortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2001 Report Share Posted February 22, 2001 , I think you are right. Hey, look at all the attention the article has gotten among us. We just need more attention and action among the medical establishments (researchers, physicians, etc.). ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mommy2Adam@...> < > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [] 'crippled'? > In a message dated 2/21/2001 7:57:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, > lisarich.com@... writes: > > > > Perhaps using the term " crippled " , the press felt it would have a greater > > impact on the public?? Not really sure why they used that terminology. I > > for one, wish we CMTers would receive some attention from the media; making > > headlines would be fine with me! > > > > > > > > > > I prefer debilitating disease ... But I guess " cripple " packs the punch they > wanted for the article. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2001 Report Share Posted February 22, 2001 , Lamar here, Words do not bother me, and no it would not bother me in the least if I was an African American, and someone called me the " N " word. (which actually originated from the Latin " niger (with a long i) " and means " black " . Many do not realize that skin color does not determine race. The African Pigmies and many native Aboriginal Australians are amongst the darkest skinned people on earth, and are Caucasians. I retired as a Registered Nurse. On literally hundreds of occasions I was referred to by various negative terms describing homosexual due to the fact that I was a male nurse and had a " funny walk " due to CMT. Why should the opinion of a stranger bother me? I have been overweight all my life, and do not like it, but terms others may use to describe my physical status are not my concern. I know I am. Let's look at the terms: Cripple: . a lame or partly disabled person or animal b : one that is disabled or deficient in a specified manner (from the Old English " cripple " meaning bent or abnormally shaped. Disabled: 1. unable to perform particular activities: used to describe somebody with a condition that makes it difficult to perform the basic tasks of daily life 2. unable to operate: incapable of performing or functioning Handicapped: having a physical or mental disability that substantially limits activity especially in relation to employment or education; While all three terms have a degree of accuracy for my physical condition due to my CMT, I honestly feel " cripple " describes it as accurate or more accurate than the other two. I do respect the opinion of others that may find it to be a negative term, but I do not. " Never be ashamed of the temple you were given to live in " is my philosophy. As I said, I frequently describe my physical self as old, fat, ugly, and crippled, ---for those that only want to know about a body, I could care less if that turns them away. If they want to know the person, I am much more, and they sometimes like that person. One of my dearest friends is a female about 1/3 my size, a gymnast, and black-belt in karate, and is 18 years younger than I am. Another is a female much younger than I am, and a large person with CMT. Our friendships did not depend on physical agility. As I said, I highly respect those of you that find the term to be negative, but to me it is not. Of all the problems I encounter in life, words are the least likely to bother me. ----- Original Message ----- From: ktbugg54@... Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 07:47 AM Subject: Re: [] Re: 'crippled'? In a message dated 2/21/2001 4:27:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, lls@... writes: << I have absolutely no problem with the article or the term. In fact I am thrilled that CMT got the excellent article. Let's face it, it is the tear-jerkers that will arouse public awareness. As to ther term " crippled " , I will be the first to say that I am old, fat, ugly, and crippled. In fact it much better describes CMT than many other terms. Handicapped can refer to mental, physical, or emotional. Disabled means " unable " . Crippled refers to the use of the extremeties. Actually, does it matter what term is used asa long as the point is gotten across? So, call me crippled, if that is the word you prefer, it makes me no less a person. >> It should matter to you. If you were African American, would you want people to call you a N? A person with any kind of disability is a " PERSON " They do not have to be referred to as a cripple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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