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did anyone here have to begin iron supplements one month before their surgery? i fear this almost as much as i do the whole surgery, etc., because i have a VERY sensitive stomach and i fear they are going to irritate my stomach so much that when i begin the coumidin, i will bleed in my stomach. believe me when i say i have a VERY sensitive tummy. i brought this up to the nurse who told me about it and she said give it a try and let's see, but i know as sure as i know i'm sitting here that one pill and i'll be in misery. i can't take vitamins or any kind of supplements -- i react to everything. ugh!

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

Ann: No, no injections. I'm taking the Coumadin in pill form--5 mg. tablets. I have four tablets left! Then I get to gorge myself on broccoli and cabbage--and everything else I've missed but can't eat because of the large amounts of vitamin k in them! --Arthur

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all she said was you don't have to!! she's the doc as far as I'm concerned and being xmas and all I suppose its to my benefit

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i don't understand WHY the injectable coumidin would mean less blood tests. how does it differ from a pill, once it's in the body as far as tests go? did you doctor explain?

i live a good 60 minute drive from my doctor as well, so maybe my doctor will suggest this. i don't think i'd have a problem injecting myself. i've had so many needles in me in my lifetime, it's like it's almost the norm.

when i was 7 i had my appendix removed and because they came very close to bursting, i was in the hospital 2 weeks and had shots of penicillin every few hours around the clock. it got to where they'd come in to give me a shot and i wouldn't even flinch, and you know how children are with needles. ;-)

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

yes it terrifies me, but she (doc) was fairly insistent - its like a diabetic pen, not difficult, but I'm TERRIFIED of needles, oh whoopie, but they have found with the injectables they do not need to monitor and being that I live on a farm north 45 minutes from doctors its probably a good choice. She said I could do either but said the monitoring was tedious - so probably what's the difference in the end. And this morning I came down with a cold, sure hope they don't cancel the op

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lindy, take alfaflfa juice, boosts your system (iron) without taking a pill - I too have a terrible stomach and this doesn't bother me at all - I was told to boost my iron rich foods - but I have good iron in my blood - health food store for alfalfa

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did anyone here have to begin iron supplements one month before their surgery? i fear this almost as much as i do the whole surgery, etc., because i have a VERY sensitive stomach and i fear they are going to irritate my stomach so much that when i begin the coumidin, i will bleed in my stomach. believe me when i say i have a VERY sensitive tummy. i brought this up to the nurse who told me about it and she said give it a try and let's see, but i know as sure as i know i'm sitting here that one pill and i'll be in misery. i can't take vitamins or any kind of supplements -- i react to everything. ugh!

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

Ann: No, no injections. I'm taking the Coumadin in pill form--5 mg. tablets. I have four tablets left! Then I get to gorge myself on broccoli and cabbage--and everything else I've missed but can't eat because of the large amounts of vitamin k in them! --Arthur

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---Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to hopefully ease your mind about giving yourself the

injections.

When I had my hip resurfaced I had to give myself injections of

Lovenox into the belly and it isn't nearly as bad as you may

imagine. I only felt a little pick, nothing like an immunization

shot or anything like that. The needles are very fine and you just

feel a little sting when the needle enters the skin.

They will show you in the hospital how to do it.

Good luck to you all on your surgeries. ..... Maxine

In Joint Replacement , Donna Hart

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> Yikes! I'll take double knee surgery, but don't ask me to inject

myself. That's adding insult to injury, isn't it? :-) And you have

no choice? Is it the insurance company or your doctor driving the

decision? At least you will save the time and gas going to the lab

every week.

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> Ann <katlady@...> wrote:

> arthur, I'm being put on injectable coumadin,

apparently you don't need weekly blood tests, but you have to inject

yourself daily, not something I'm looking forward to, but as with

all things I'll get over it. They are NOT giving me an alternative

on this one.

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blood tests. Make sure you know where you're going to get those

blood tests, how often your doctor wants them, who's prescribing the

blood drawing, and who's going to right the blood draw order and

review your test results. I was a bit confused there with my primary

care physician ordering and reading the blood tests when it my

surgeon who prescribed the Coumadin. --Arthur

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okay, i'll look for this. what does it taste like, not that this is important at this point. ;-) i wonder if my doctor will go along with this though??????????????????????? thanks ann!

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

lindy, take alfaflfa juice, boosts your system (iron) without taking a pill - I too have a terrible stomach and this doesn't bother me at all - I was told to boost my iron rich foods - but I have good iron in my blood - health food store for alfalfa

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---Hi Lindy,

I'm going to try to answer two of your questions.

Yes, I had to take Niferex-150 for a month prior to my hip

resurfacing because they wanted my hemoglobin up before the surgery.

I have taken other iron supplements in the past and they made me

sick to my stomach if I didn't take them with food, but the Niferex

didn't have that effect on me and it saved me from having to have a

transfusion after surgery.

I too have a stomach problem, ... have to take meds for reflux.

As for the Coumadin, it's in a pill form and the injectable meds

aren't coumadin. I personally don't trust Coumadin to keep clots

from forming and prefer the Lovenox or other injectables.

I think Coumadin is too hard to regulate. My brother has to take it

and he was getting huge bruises in his arms and legs and they are

always changing the doses.

But, as they say, the Dr knows best, .... but I'm not a believer in

that always either.

I wish you good luck with everything with your surgery. ..... Maxine

In Joint Replacement , " lindy "

<everyothername.istaken@...> wrote:

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> did anyone here have to begin iron supplements one month before

their surgery? i fear this almost as much as i do the whole

surgery, etc., because i have a VERY sensitive stomach and i fear

they are going to irritate my stomach so much that when i begin the

coumidin, i will bleed in my stomach. believe me when i say i have

a VERY sensitive tummy. i brought this up to the nurse who told me

about it and she said give it a try and let's see, but i know as

sure as i know i'm sitting here that one pill and i'll be in

misery. i can't take vitamins or any kind of supplements -- i react

to everything. ugh!

> hugs,

> ~ linDUHlou ~

> RTHR/1/22/2007

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> Ann: No, no injections. I'm taking the Coumadin in pill form--5

mg. tablets. I have four tablets left! Then I get to gorge myself on

broccoli and cabbage--and everything else I've missed but can't eat

because of the large amounts of vitamin k in them! --Arthur

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actually its okay, bit like hay, so act like a horse and eat like a horse!! LOL

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okay, i'll look for this. what does it taste like, not that this is important at this point. ;-) i wonder if my doctor will go along with this though??????????????????????? thanks ann!

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

lindy, take alfaflfa juice, boosts your system (iron) without taking a pill - I too have a terrible stomach and this doesn't bother me at all - I was told to boost my iron rich foods - but I have good iron in my blood - health food store for alfalfa

ann

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I just reread your email about your stomach Lindy, I also can't take vitamins so we are both in the same boat - they really upset me to the point of ulcers. I was told to go home and eat high iron foods, steak and kidney pie, liver and blood pudding so my husband is in seventh heaven - well I draw a line on blood pudding, but have been eating liver and venison pies which have been lovely. Bet I put on weight this week - not to worry surgery should take care of that.

ann

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did anyone here have to begin iron supplements one month before their surgery? i fear this almost as much as i do the whole surgery, etc., because i have a VERY sensitive stomach and i fear they are going to irritate my stomach so much that when i begin the coumidin, i will bleed in my stomach. believe me when i say i have a VERY sensitive tummy. i brought this up to the nurse who told me about it and she said give it a try and let's see, but i know as sure as i know i'm sitting here that one pill and i'll be in misery. i can't take vitamins or any kind of supplements -- i react to everything. ugh!

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

Ann: No, no injections. I'm taking the Coumadin in pill form--5 mg. tablets. I have four tablets left! Then I get to gorge myself on broccoli and cabbage--and everything else I've missed but can't eat because of the large amounts of vitamin k in them! --Arthur

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What a good idea. I'm going to try it because I still feel like I and my immune system could use a boost. Speaking of, I've been drinking a can of Boost daily for extra vitamins and mineral. Lindy, you're going to be so prepared. I've said it before -- I wish I had searched for this site before surgery. I had a unit and blood and around of iron after surgery when my blood count dropped. I have to have a blood test this week to see where my blood count is and if I need to continue. But I'll try the alfalfa. Ann, can I ask a personal question? Does it "stop you up" like the pain pills do? Warm regards, Donna Ann <katlady@...> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- lindy, take alfaflfa juice, boosts your system (iron) without taking a pill - I too have a terrible stomach and this doesn't bother me at all - I was told to boost my iron rich foods - but I have good iron in my blood - health food store for alfalfa ann

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well everything stops me up, so I just take metamucil to avoid the issue (pill form of course) but I doubt it would stop you up because its "hay" and that is roughage LOL to a horse anyway.

I've been boosting my system up but this has happened in 3 weeks for me, saw the surgeon 2 weeks ago and op on monday so haven't had much time, and danged didn't I get a cold yesterday, but I understand that as long as I don't have a fever its a go.

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What a good idea. I'm going to try it because I still feel like I and my immune system could use a boost. Speaking of, I've been drinking a can of Boost daily for extra vitamins and mineral.

Lindy, you're going to be so prepared. I've said it before -- I wish I had searched for this site before surgery. I had a unit and blood and around of iron after surgery when my blood count dropped. I have to have a blood test this week to see where my blood count is and if I need to continue. But I'll try the alfalfa. Ann, can I ask a personal question? Does it "stop you up" like the pain pills do?

Warm regards,

Donna Ann <katladyhughes (DOT) net> wrote:

----- Original Message -----

lindy, take alfaflfa juice, boosts your system (iron) without taking a pill - I too have a terrible stomach and this doesn't bother me at all - I was told to boost my iron rich foods - but I have good iron in my blood - health food store for alfalfa

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Excellent point about the hay! :-) I wish you the very best results, Ann, and will keep you in my thoughts. We'll be waiting to hear about your recovery when you are up to it. :-) Warm regards, DonnaAnn <katlady@...> wrote: well everything stops me up, so I just take metamucil to avoid the issue (pill form of course) but I doubt it would stop you up because its "hay" and that is roughage LOL to a horse

anyway. I've been boosting my system up but this has happened in 3 weeks for me, saw the surgeon 2 weeks ago and op on monday so haven't had much time, and danged didn't I get a cold yesterday, but I understand that as long as I don't have a fever its a go. ann Re: coumadin What a good idea. I'm going to try it because I still feel like I and my immune system could use a boost. Speaking of, I've been drinking a can of Boost daily for extra vitamins and mineral. Lindy, you're going to be so prepared. I've said it before -- I wish I had searched for this site before surgery. I had a unit and blood and around of iron after surgery when my blood count dropped. I have to have a blood test this week to see where my blood count is and if I need to continue. But I'll try the alfalfa. Ann, can I ask a personal question? Does it "stop you up" like the pain pills do? Warm regards, Donna Ann <katladyhughes (DOT) net> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- lindy, take alfaflfa juice, boosts your system (iron) without taking a pill - I too have a terrible stomach and this doesn't bother me at all - I was told to boost my iron rich foods - but I have good iron in my blood - health food store for alfalfa ann Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited.

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i'll be in email withdrawal when in hospital, might have to get my husband to bring the laptop back so I can lie in bed with it LOL - I'm not sure how mobile I'll be, but I guess I'll soon find out.

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What a good idea. I'm going to try it because I still feel like I and my immune system could use a boost. Speaking of, I've been drinking a can of Boost daily for extra vitamins and mineral.

Lindy, you're going to be so prepared. I've said it before -- I wish I had searched for this site before surgery. I had a unit and blood and around of iron after surgery when my blood count dropped. I have to have a blood test this week to see where my blood count is and if I need to continue. But I'll try the alfalfa. Ann, can I ask a personal question? Does it "stop you up" like the pain pills do?

Warm regards,

Donna Ann <katladyhughes (DOT) net> wrote:

----- Original Message -----

lindy, take alfaflfa juice, boosts your system (iron) without taking a pill - I too have a terrible stomach and this doesn't bother me at all - I was told to boost my iron rich foods - but I have good iron in my blood - health food store for alfalfa

ann

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Well, Lindy, I had to take iron, 325 mg tablets, twice a day for a

month before surgery and for 6 weeks following. I hated taking it -

my tummy is not particularly sensitive, but it DID upset it - not to

mention adding another cause of constipation to the narcotic pain

meds. I tried several times to get them to say I could stop taking

it, but with no luck. All things considered, though, since I did

require transfusions after surgery, therefore I obviously lost a good

deal of blood - the iron is important and needed for recovery. Look

at it this way - it's only a couple of months or so, and you are

having this surgery because you really want to fix up your knees - so

just go for it.

Good luck,

Judy

>

> did anyone here have to begin iron supplements one month before

their surgery? i fear this almost as much as i do the whole surgery,

etc., because i have a VERY sensitive stomach and i fear they are

going to irritate my stomach so much that when i begin the coumidin, i

will bleed in my stomach. believe me when i say i have a VERY

sensitive tummy. i brought this up to the nurse who told me about it

and she said give it a try and let's see, but i know as sure as i know

i'm sitting here that one pill and i'll be in misery. i can't take

vitamins or any kind of supplements -- i react to everything. ugh!

> hugs,

> ~ linDUHlou ~

> RTHR/1/22/2007

>

>

> Ann: No, no injections. I'm taking the Coumadin in pill form--5

mg. tablets. I have four tablets left! Then I get to gorge myself on

broccoli and cabbage--and everything else I've missed but can't eat

because of the large amounts of vitamin k in them! --Arthur

>

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maxine,

i bought my iron the other day and i begin taking it tomorrow -- i just got over the counter -- not a prescription. but the nurse did tell me if i have trouble with it to call, and to start with 1 a day instead of 3. i don't know why she couldn't just write me a script for the easy-on-the-tummy kind right off. i take prevacid for my reflux.

i'm really leery of the coumidin, i just hope it does its job.

Love and Hugs,Lindy LouRight THR 1/22/2007

---Hi Lindy,I'm going to try to answer two of your questions.Yes, I had to take Niferex-150 for a month prior to my hip resurfacing because they wanted my hemoglobin up before the surgery.I have taken other iron supplements in the past and they made me sick to my stomach if I didn't take them with food, but the Niferex didn't have that effect on me and it saved me from having to have a transfusion after surgery.I too have a stomach problem, ... have to take meds for reflux.As for the Coumadin, it's in a pill form and the injectable meds aren't coumadin. I personally don't trust Coumadin to keep clots from forming and prefer the Lovenox or other injectables.I think Coumadin is too hard to regulate. My brother has to take it and he was getting huge bruises in his arms and legs and they are always changing the doses.But, as they say, the Dr knows best, .... but I'm not a believer in that always either.I wish you good luck with everything with your surgery. ..... Maxine

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ann,

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww kidney pie, liver -- ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww -- i think i'd rather take my chances with iron. LOL LOL what the heck is blood pudding anyway? wait, don't tell me. :-) i'm not into any of these foods you mentioned. i live in the woods and folks around here love their venison, i tried it when i moved up north, but i just can't stomach it. it's that wild taste that i just can't stand.

Love and Hugs,Lindy LouRight THR 1/22/2007

I just reread your email about your stomach Lindy, I also can't take vitamins so we are both in the same boat - they really upset me to the point of ulcers. I was told to go home and eat high iron foods, steak and kidney pie, liver and blood pudding so my husband is in seventh heaven - well I draw a line on blood pudding, but have been eating liver and venison pies which have been lovely. Bet I put on weight this week - not to worry surgery should take care of that.

ann

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Judy,

i take 3 a day. starting tomorrow. i'm not excited. no way. the doctor also told me to get colace to take with the iron -- a laxitive.

Love and Hugs,Lindy LouRight THR 1/22/2007

Well, Lindy, I had to take iron, 325 mg tablets, twice a day for amonth before surgery and for 6 weeks following. I hated taking it -my tummy is not particularly sensitive, but it DID upset it - not tomention adding another cause of constipation to the narcotic painmeds. I tried several times to get them to say I could stop takingit, but with no luck. All things considered, though, since I didrequire transfusions after surgery, therefore I obviously lost a gooddeal of blood - the iron is important and needed for recovery. Lookat it this way - it's only a couple of months or so, and you arehaving this surgery because you really want to fix up your knees - sojust go for it.Good luck,Judy

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, Yes, it will pass. You're so early into recovery -- not even a month. But, oh, I so understand what you're feeling right now. The first month is the toughest. And every time I had a setback day, I thought I was doomed. When I could guage my progress by months, I felt much better. Many say they hit a significant milestone in recovery at three months. For me, it was four. Now, it's been six months and I feel like my progress has slowed. But I believe it's my own fault -- I've been spending too much time in the office and not nearly enough time exercising. So it's time for me to get focused again. But I know from our friends here that I need to give it a year. On April 5, look at the progress you have made and multiply it by twelve. By the way, it's amazing how quickly your flex can improve. I felt like I was plodding along, and then made a large leap in

progress. The same thing happened with the scar tissue. The PT would massage the back of my leg, and I would bury my head and moan. I was sure it would require a manipulation. Then one day it was gone! Keep plugging and manage that pain. Warm regards, Donna Risener <mariaelisa64@...> wrote: My rtkr was on March 5. I have had no trouble at all with my bloodwork, it has been right where it

should be. I will be done with the coumadin about a week from now.Had PT again on Friday, I am now at 98 flexion. I'm still in a good amount of pain though and feeling discouraged. I guess this too shall pass.

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In a message dated 8/21/2007 2:57:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

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Totally avoiding Warfarin will save more money and lives.

All conditions that it is used for are completely curable with natural

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Some of the ingredients are the same as those in rat poison, but I'd bet rat

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In a message dated 8/21/2007 2:57:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

Totally avoiding Warfarin will save more money and lives.

All conditions that it is used for are completely curable with natural

medicine and diet.

Some of the ingredients are the same as those in rat poison, but I'd bet rat

poison is safer!

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In a message dated 8/21/2007 2:57:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

Totally avoiding Warfarin will save more money and lives.

All conditions that it is used for are completely curable with natural

medicine and diet.

Some of the ingredients are the same as those in rat poison, but I'd bet rat

poison is safer!

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In a message dated 8/21/2007 2:57:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

Totally avoiding Warfarin will save more money and lives.

All conditions that it is used for are completely curable with natural

medicine and diet.

Some of the ingredients are the same as those in rat poison, but I'd bet rat

poison is safer!

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After open heart surgery in early March, they have taken away many of my

arthritis meds because I am now on warfarin (Coumadin).* If any of you have

experienced this, please contact me off list. There is no question I am getting

worse mobility wise. I still have my Enbrel which isn't enough to keep me on my

feet and going at 100%. It feels like one step forward and two

backwards..........I'm anxious to know how others have dealt with a reduction in

PA pills.

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*an anticoagulant

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