Guest guest Posted April 26, 1999 Report Share Posted April 26, 1999 Hi , I think diarrhea is a common side effect from the Rocephin. I've been on it twice (starting again this week will make it 3 - Third times a charm!) The only other product I could suggest is Milk Thistle. I know it's helped me. Even though you've been taking the acidophilus, you might want to take a prescription antifungal like Diflucan for a little while to help with the stomach upset. We all know that the abx really do a number on our stomachs! I've never been on doxy, so I can't help there, but I'm sure someone else on the list will be able to help you with that question. Hope your feeling better soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 Although a lot of people here seem to have reflux problems, I'm not aware that stomach upset per se is associated with Samters. Ditto for fever. regards, Ken West > From: " Belbin " <stoneywood@...> > Reply-samters > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:54:58 -0000 > samters > Subject: Stomach upset > > Most aspects of Samters I can cope with, but the, almost continuous, > periods of fevery illness is very wearing. This usually starts with > a headache and mild stomach upset. Can anyone explain why my > stomach is involved with an upper respiratory infection? > Regards . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 This has been a phenomenon that I have observed over the past few years. Often, after exercise, I get very easily chilled, and 18- 24hrs later get a stomach upset, (never vomit or really lose appetite), followed by varying periods of fever and infection. I just can't relate the bowel discomfort to my moreo bvious problems.. > Although a lot of people here seem to have reflux problems, I'm not aware > that stomach upset per se is associated with Samters. Ditto for fever. > > regards, > Ken West > > > From: " Belbin " <stoneywood@t...> > > Reply-samters > > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:54:58 -0000 > > samters > > Subject: Stomach upset > > > > Most aspects of Samters I can cope with, but the, almost continuous, > > periods of fevery illness is very wearing. This usually starts with > > a headache and mild stomach upset. Can anyone explain why my > > stomach is involved with an upper respiratory infection? > > Regards . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 > Most aspects of Samters I can cope with, but the, almost continuous, > periods of fevery illness is very wearing. This usually starts with > a headache and mild stomach upset. Can anyone explain why my > stomach is involved with an upper respiratory infection? > Regards . I was about to ask the same question. I have chronic atrophic gastritis and have been wondering if there was any connection to samters. c.a.g is an autoimmune disease where the antibodies attack the lining of the stomach. Eventually the stomach can no longer produce acid or intrinsic factor. I havn't found a connection to samter's as yet but my ent man says that the mucus membranes in the gut and the nasal passages have a neuroendocrine link. Best Wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 > , a bloated, gassy and almost quesy but not quite. Is that what you mean? > Billie Could be.... I have not really understood about the frequent reflux problems in this group. Acid reflux is not a phrase we use here. (Scotland.) I have occasional digestive problems, but not unusually so, considering my middle age. The onset of my problem is more of weakening myself than the motion of the exercise. It is the link of an inevitable cold/virus infection, following the " chill " and Stomach upset which puzzles me. While I have observed this for several years, it does not seem to be common, as I mentioned it a while ago on the sinus support forum, without usefull comment. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 Acid reflux is often called " heartburn " , and is caused by acid " blurging " up from the stomach to the esophagus where it causes irritation, and eventually damage. regards, Ken West > From: " Belbin " <stoneywood@...> > Reply-samters > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:28:11 -0000 > samters > Subject: Re: Stomach upset > > >> , > a bloated, gassy and almost quesy but not quite. Is that what you > mean? >> Billie > > Could be.... > I have not really understood about the frequent reflux problems in > this group. Acid reflux is not a phrase we use here. (Scotland.) I > have occasional digestive problems, but not unusually so, considering > my middle age. The onset of my problem is more of weakening myself > than the motion of the exercise. It is the link of an inevitable > cold/virus infection, following the " chill " and Stomach upset which > puzzles me. While I have observed this for several years, it does > not seem to be common, as I mentioned it a while ago on the sinus > support forum, without usefull comment. > Regards > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 , Here might be a reason: A lot of the drainage from an upper respiratory infection is swallowed after we cough or clear our throats, blow our noses, cough it up from the chest or it drains there naturally. We can't always spit it out because some of it drains to the stomach from post nasal drip, etc...so we swallow it instead of spitting it out. The problem with that is if you don't spit the drainage out when it goes down the back of your throat or you cough it up from your lungs is that the bacteria from the lungs, sinuses, stomach and mouth are all different. When you swallow the drainage it can cause stomach upsets. I was told this by a respiratory dr when I happened to clear my throat one day and I didn't spit it out, I swallowed it. He really fussed at me for that and told me to ALWAYS spit it out whenever possible. I do think that the headaches, fevers and stomach upsets could be associated with this illness. Possibly not directly but because of the inflammatory processes we struggle with. New Mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 > , > We might be talking about the same thing. By the " shaken snowflakes " I mean anything that moves my system about, so that it is " stirred up " or out of routine. The exercise would do that... cause the weakening, and the cycle of illness. I usually have to stop any program of exercise after a few days because I get sick all over again. I get that chill, too, usually a day or two before becoming ill. Big, rolling chills, complete with goosebumps. The reflux, at least according to my dr, seems to be connected with triggering asthma symptoms. In fact, in less intense cases (such as his own), keeping the indigestion and reflux under control usually controlls the asthma symptoms. What phrase do you use instead of acid reflux? Or is it a non-issue? > Billie The chills are odd. A numb feeling in the small of my back and a sensation of cold, although my face is warm and the room temp is way too high. A hot bath and two paracetamols helps, but a cold always follows. >What phrase do you use instead< Heartburn pain is possible, although I can occasionally have reflux. I have always joked that I am more healthy when I do not try to keep fit. It is no joke though.... sad egh! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 Sometimes I don't have heartburn with the reflux, just the "splash up" of acid and stomach contents. It's almost like a mild form of vomiting. Prevacid is about the only thing that keeps it under control, and I can tell the difference in asthma symptoms when I stay on it! ********************** I had this same thing and all the medications they gave me just gave me diarrhea. I finally got my doctor to give the go ahead to have the testing done to see if I was a good candidate to have the reflux/ hiatal hernia repaired and I was. I had the surgery done and it changed my life as far as reflux, I can bend over now without my food meeting me on the floor >G< I still get what I call 'sour stomach' and my mouth will feels like cotton, but that all depends on how much acid food I have eaten. When I am having problems with my asthma I notice I also tend to tense up because I can't breath and if I can just get myself to relax than I do pretty good. If I tense up to much than I can count on not only more asthma problems but stomach and intestinal problems. Also, not getting enough oxygen to your blood can cause a whole lot of problems you are not aware of and neither was I until I started doing some research. Just do a search on yawning and low blood oxygen and see what you come up with, I think you will find many of your symptoms are oxygen related. Judy Young Gaelic Pride Westies check out My EBay AuctionsAndWESTIE TREASURES GIFTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 " Judy Young " <westies@c...> wrote: > Sometimes I don't have heartburn with the reflux, just the " splash up " of acid and stomach contents.< Hello Judy Occasionally I have that and also have to watch not to do bending tasks too close to a meal. This gives me general indigestion. I am also aware that the bile irritates the asthma, but I don't think that I am needing a hernia operation yet. This, however, is not the problem that I was trying to describe. It would seem to me to be an opening phase of the vial infection??? As a long time jogger and cyclist, I am not a great dog lover, but your westies ARE cute. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 > I've been dealing with stomach issues since my allergic reaction to aspirin 26 years ago. I almost always have diarhea and many morning I have intense pain. I noticed though as far as getting the chills, I get them right before a major sinus infection shows up. I don't have a fever though. My temp goes way low. Sometimes down to 95. It feels like I have a fever though by having the chills. I'm glad I don't get fevers very often because I can't take anything to bring it down. > I have my own two theory's on this. 1.) I think that whatever bacteria that's in your sinuses drain into your stomach and continue on into your intestines. I believe that this causes damage in my intestines and therefore causes me to have horrible stomach cramps and diarhea or 2.) It's coming from something I'm eating or drinking. I noticed that during strawberry season my diet consisted of almost all strawberries. I was too busy to make meals. I stopped throwing up in the morning and my morning stomach cramps almost disappeared. I still had diarhea though and I was totally exhausted. Way beyond just fatigue. I really should get a lower GI done, but I can't stand going to the doctor. I already feel like a hypocondriac by just having samters. Every year I say that I'm going to make a whole year without seeing a doctor and every January I get a dang sinus infection. > Who knows, maybe what we eat affects sinuses and stomachs and intestines. I tried a low carb diet for a few weeks and got noodles and breads out of my diet and I noticed that I felt better. To give them up forever is almost impossible. I believe strongly that all of our stomach problems relate to Samters. > Tami Hi Tami My hunch is that I have a permanent infection lurking in my head. a 3hr hill walk or a 1hr moderate cycle ride is enough to drop my resistance and bring on illness. A friend once summed up my condition perfectly. - When any one day you feel OK, you only then realise just how awful you have been over the past months. I no longer try to modify my diet. At one time I was convinced, due to the daily cycle of sinus dicharge, that something at breakfast was bothering me. Isolating milk, coffee, cerial made no difference. Also, beer and wine used to close off my nasal passages. It now has no effect. (At least there is some light in this pit!) In general, my stomach is very strong and I cannot remember the last time I was physically sick. I was just looking for some reasurance that I was not the only one who could foretell the onset of a virus infection by the discomfort in my stomach. Take care. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 > Most aspects of Samters I can cope with, but the, almost continuous, > periods of fevery illness is very wearing. This usually starts with > a headache and mild stomach upset. Can anyone explain why my > stomach is involved with an upper respiratory infection? > Regards . I have GERD as do a lot of people on the forum but I also used to have an alergic reaction in my stomach to aspirin and related foods. In fact, the stomach pain was worse than the asthma when I took aspirin. I also had stomach symptoms when I used tomato sause, beer, wine,tea or diet pop. All of these symptoms disappeared after I desensitzed to aspirin. I still have GERD but don't get hartburn from eating or drinking. Drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 > > > I have GERD as do a lot of people on the forum but I also used to > have an alergic reaction in my stomach to aspirin and related foods. > In fact, the stomach pain was worse than the asthma when I took > aspirin. I also had stomach symptoms when I used tomato sause, beer, > wine,tea or diet pop. All of these symptoms disappeared after I > desensitzed to aspirin. I still have GERD but don't get hartburn > from eating or drinking. > Drew Hi Drew I don't have access to asprin desensitisation here and can only avoid accidental ingestion. Only two occurances in the last 20yrs, but each of these has been serious. Belbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Vicki, Could it be because you took it close to bedtime? VCO would keep you awake for a while because it would give you too much energy. Try not to take it 4 hours before bedtime and see if that would make a difference. stomach upset Hi! After a week of using coconut oil (3 tbs of organic virgin oil throughout the day) I started having bad cramps and nausea at night. Then I wake up fine. Is this the die off effect of bad stuff? Why is it the same time every night? thanks! Vicki ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 - Thanks ! I am going to make sure a take it with some food. I have actually been tired all week. Going to bed at 9 and having a hard time getting up at 7am. I am never like this! The only thing I can think of is that the CO is clearing my system of " junk " . I had the energy the first week or so and then I just got so tired. Is this normal at all? I had read that it can take up to a month to feel the benefits if your body needs " cleansing " . Does anyone have any info on that? Thanks for your help! Vicki -- In Coconut Oil , " pbanagal " <pbanagal@m...> wrote: > Vicki, > > Could it be because you took it close to bedtime? VCO would keep you awake for a while because it would give you too much energy. Try not to take it 4 hours before bedtime and see if that would make a difference. > > > > stomach upset > > > > > Hi! After a week of using coconut oil (3 tbs of organic virgin oil > throughout the day) I started having bad cramps and nausea at night. > Then I wake up fine. Is this the die off effect of bad stuff? Why is > it the same time every night? > > thanks! > > Vicki > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 As I had written on Monday, I got some Arthrotec to try from my Rheumatologist. I took my first one yesterday morning, and once it kicked in, my joints were totally pain free. It was nice being pain free, but it also made my stomach so upset that I had nausea the entire day. I don't know which is worse, some pain, or extreme nauseousness. For those of you who have taken this anti-inflammatory, or any other one that has caused stomach upset, do you have any recommendations that would help relieve my stomach? I would like to take this medicine if possible, since it does wonders with the pain. I did read that I am not supposed to take antacids with magnesium in them like Pepcid or Zantac, since it can cause other stomach problems when mixed with Arthrotec, but I broke down yesterday and took some Pepcid so I could sleep. What do you guys recommend? Also, if you have taken Arthrotec, does the stomach problems go away in time? from FL. --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Hi Some magnesium, I know the one I use, they recommend it be taken with food that way it lines the stomach. I know that some it does give them the diarreah, but for me it does just the opposite also, but then I take it with at least a glass of milk if no food at the time. Magnesium also helps relax. Thought I was seeing things and couldn't believe it as actually helped my headaches. When asked, that was the answer I got. Not sure if all brands do though. Happy holiday season everyone Hope Degenerative Disease Information juliehope@... Saskatchewan, Canada Tel: 1 306 648-2642 (CST) http://www.4betrhealth.com Re: [ ] stomach upset , Arthrotec is made up of diclofenac sodium(this is the anti-inflammatory) and misoprostol(to protect stomach) and apparently, magnesium based antacids with the misoprostol can cause diarreah. However, I didn't have that problem yesterday when I took the pepcid. I usually have the opposite problem, so these medicines actually have made me more regular(crazy huh?) I may try taking pepcid an hour before the Arthrotec. Sorry for the gross topic of conversation, but I know you understand. pretzelb3@... wrote: I don't know why you can't take pepcid with it because pepcid works a little differently than a regular antacid . It actually blocks the production of acid while the others seem to work a little differently . some antacids absorb the acid and work more in a mechanical way directly on the mucosa of stomack . Anyway that's what I understand so it really should'nt interfere with your medicine . Pepcid used to be a prescription medicine that was commonly given in the hospital before surgery to block the production of acid in your stomack so you would not suffer from nausea postoperatively . Its not like taking tums or something like that. cathy from ma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I did read that I am not supposed to take antacids with magnesium in them like Pepcid or Zantac, since it can cause other stomach problems when mixed with Arthrotec, but I broke down yesterday and took some Pepcid so I could sleep. What do you guys recommend? Also, if you have taken Arthrotec, does the stomach problems go away in time? You could take a proton pump inhibitor, perhaps. Between the combination of Methotrexate, Prednisone, and Arthrotec, I ended up with a (mild) GI bleed. They weaned me off the Prednisone, placed me on the Naproxen, and changed the PPI I was taking from 25 mg of Prevacid daily to 40 mg of Protonix daily and I have been a happy camper ever since. The other option is that you could take an antacid such as Mylanta or Maalox, or perhaps Tagamet would be OK for you to take. The trick to taking the proton pump inhibitors or the antacids when you are taking other medications that they conflict with, or whose absorption they hinder, is to take them either one hour BEFORE taking those other medications OR to take them at least two hours AFTER taking those other medications. That is what we did with our renal patients in the hospital. Many of them needed antacids but they conflicted with all the kidney meds and vitamin supplements the patients were on, and that is what the hospital policy was and the nephrology department's recommendation as well. Just a couple of thoughts! Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 If your nausea is simply due to the drug, and not stomach damaging type irritation (and if you trust your dr. to make that distinction), know that there are GREAT anti-nausea drugs out there. I am prone to nausea with just about everything. I have some prescription anti- nausea drugs I can take if needed. Ask your dr. about them! -Marietta > As I had written on Monday, I got some Arthrotec to try from my Rheumatologist. I took my first one yesterday morning, and once it kicked in, my joints were totally pain free. It was nice being pain free, but it also made my stomach so upset that I had nausea the entire day. I don't know which is worse, some pain, or extreme nauseousness. For those of you who have taken this anti- inflammatory, or any other one that has caused stomach upset, do you have any recommendations that would help relieve my stomach? I would like to take this medicine if possible, since it does wonders with the pain. I did read that I am not supposed to take antacids with magnesium in them like Pepcid or Zantac, since it can cause other stomach problems when mixed with Arthrotec, but I broke down yesterday and took some Pepcid so I could sleep. What do you guys recommend? Also, if you have taken Arthrotec, does the stomach problems go away in time? > from FL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 I personally say do what works for you . I know my husband has that unmentionable problem if he takes mylanta and other stuff but not with pepecid . I took methotrexate for 7 years and trust me I woulndn't have survived the nausea without the pepcid . cathy from ma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 It was nice being pain > free, but it also made my stomach so upset that I > had nausea the entire day. Hi : I have nausea frequently (and have GERD), these are the things I've learned to be of some help. I always take Plaquenil on a full stomach, it helps to eliminate the nausea. You also may become more accustomed to it after it's in your system for a few months and the nausea will lessen. Otherwise, saltine crackers and ginger ale help me with nausea. Good luck with this! jane __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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