Re: psoriatic arthritis pain - diet changes makes great ...

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/18/2006 5:11:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

shirleyenslin@... writes:

So anyone suffering from the pain that comes with arthritis - try

stopping the coffee and stopping the bread - (any yeast). I ate a

tiny bit of pastry with yeast and instantly my stomach indicated signs

up disturbance. It was obvious and almost instant.

Hey Shirley...I am pretty convinced that part of the issue is gluten, which

is in wheat, rye and barley. When I cut them out of my diet, my pain goes

down by 90% or so. There is a high correlation between PA and celiac disease

(gluten intolerance), but celiac is very under-diagnosed in this country.

[Guest guest]

Hi

Looking thro all these emails - 116 of them - had no

idea that this would await me in my inbox - and most

of them talk about insurance and the horrid drugs.

Perhaps they've all tried diet - and perhaps not but

really - for me - it was also the coffee my dear - and

the yeast. I feel so great - just want to share all

that.

Shirley

--- rachelviognier@... wrote:

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In a message dated 2/18/2006 5:11:46 P.M. Eastern

Standard Time,

shirleyenslin@... writes:

So anyone suffering from the pain that comes with

arthritis - try

stopping the coffee and stopping the bread - (any

yeast). I ate a

tiny bit of pastry with yeast and instantly my

stomach indicated signs

up disturbance. It was obvious and almost instant.

[Guest guest]

Hi Shirley,

I am very interested in your comments on diet. I am a newly diagnosed PA

and on methotrexate for 3 weeks so far with little change and no change with

skin. I too have noticed almost immediate problems after having yeast

products. I thought it might be the medicine or something because that is new

since

I've been on it. I hope you can tell me more. Everything I've read so far

says no correlation between diet and relief.

Janice

[Guest guest]

Hi Janice

I've been having pain and discomfort for many years

now and when Vioxx was happenin', i loved it and it

gave me relief. Now - I needed to go on to

methotrexate and everything in my body and mind

refused to go there.

So - a friend recommended that i might like to try

going off all yeast products and coffee. I did - had

a headache for a day and just drink my Roibos tea -

without sugar - and no yeast - just crackers or any of

the wonderful products we now have without yeast and

my god - i feel wonderful. As a result - i dropped

weight - immediately and i assume it's the yeast

products that caused this rumbling inside of me -

yeast factory in my body that screamed for sugar -

Which of course yeast needs just like in bread - and

on and on i w ent. I got fed up with this feeling -

not wanting to take the heavy duty drugs and started

my regime. How simple and how much better i feel.

In the mornings i still have this pain in my feet so

it takes a bit to get going but really - nothing like

before - it last for a few minutes and now if i take

an advil in 2-3 days - well then i will but for the

most part - i don't need to go with 600 mg of advil as

soon as i can reach for the bottle and then again in

the aft.

Today i'm going to the drug store for a candida

cleanse and continue to clean up my body.

I have no trouble not having sugar - and treat myself

with a candy every once in a while - just sucking on

it gives me that sweetness that i need and really - no

gobs of butter - no dairy - just yogurt in the a.m.

with my granola mixture and i'm good to go. I'm a

potter and spend many hours throwing and have no

trouble with that.

I'm now going to try cider vinegar - think it will be

good for my joints.

It's not a cure, i don't think - perhaps so - but it

keeps things manageable without horrid drugs. There

may be a day when i may need to resort to something

stronger but you know - i don't think so. It's so

much to do with diet i think. I can move my toes now

- wiggle them when before - there was no independence

in my joints at all - they were all stiff. I can now

start walking again and see what happens with that.

My psoriasis - under control with duvobet - awesome

stuff and yes, cortisone is not exactly a good drug

but it keeps that from spreading and me feeling all

patchy and red. I went to the Cayman Islands for xmas

and spent alot of time in the salt water and i think

that helped my psoriasis as well - sun and salt water.

My nails are still compromised - rough and weak and

don't know what will happen with that but we'll see.

My skin specialist agreed with me that vinegar helps

psoriasis very much so - whenever i remember - i use

vinegar on my psoriasis as well.

Hope this helps and please - if you have questions or

want to discuss - feel free. Just email me.

Shirley E

--- JHardy8375@... wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi Shirley,

I am very interested in your comments on diet. I am a

newly diagnosed PA

and on methotrexate for 3 weeks so far with little

change and no change with

skin. I too have noticed almost immediate problems

after having yeast

products. I thought it might be the medicine or

something because that is new since

I've been on it. I hope you can tell me more.

Everything I've read so far

says no correlation between diet and relief.

Janice

[Guest guest]

Hi Janice

Have you tried refusing yeast products?

And Coffee?

I feel so much better - a tiny bit of pain when i walk

but really - nothing like it used to be. And the spin

off - weight loss.

Try these in earnest and see what happens. Like

Baking is good for us???? don't think so. I love my

ryvita crackers - anything without yeast and as a

result - no coffee means no sugar. I still suck on

the odd candy but that may leave me too.

Good luck - give it a try

shirley

--- shirley enslin <shirleyenslin@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi Janice

I've been having pain and discomfort for many years

now and when Vioxx was happenin', i loved it and it

gave me relief. Now - I needed to go on to

methotrexate and everything in my body and mind

refused to go there.

So - a friend recommended that i might like to try

going off all yeast products and coffee. I did - had

a headache for a day and just drink my Roibos tea -

without sugar - and no yeast - just crackers or any of

the wonderful products we now have without yeast and

my god - i feel wonderful. As a result - i dropped

weight - immediately and i assume it's the yeast

products that caused this rumbling inside of me -

yeast factory in my body that screamed for sugar -

Which of course yeast needs just like in bread - and

on and on i w ent. I got fed up with this feeling -

not wanting to take the heavy duty drugs and started

my regime. How simple and how much better i feel.

In the mornings i still have this pain in my feet so

it takes a bit to get going but really - nothing like

before - it last for a few minutes and now if i take

an advil in 2-3 days - well then i will but for the

most part - i don't need to go with 600 mg of advil as

soon as i can reach for the bottle and then again in

the aft.

Today i'm going to the drug store for a candida

cleanse and continue to clean up my body.

I have no trouble not having sugar - and treat myself

with a candy every once in a while - just sucking on

it gives me that sweetness that i need and really - no

gobs of butter - no dairy - just yogurt in the a.m.

with my granola mixture and i'm good to go. I'm a

potter and spend many hours throwing and have no

trouble with that.

I'm now going to try cider vinegar - think it will be

good for my joints.

It's not a cure, i don't think - perhaps so - but it

keeps things manageable without horrid drugs. There

may be a day when i may need to resort to something

stronger but you know - i don't think so. It's so

much to do with diet i think. I can move my toes now

- wiggle them when before - there was no independence

in my joints at all - they were all stiff. I can now

start walking again and see what happens with that.

My psoriasis - under control with duvobet - awesome

stuff and yes, cortisone is not exactly a good drug

but it keeps that from spreading and me feeling all

patchy and red. I went to the Cayman Islands for xmas

and spent alot of time in the salt water and i think

that helped my psoriasis as well - sun and salt water.

My nails are still compromised - rough and weak and

don't know what will happen with that but we'll see.

My skin specialist agreed with me that vinegar helps

psoriasis very much so - whenever i remember - i use

vinegar on my psoriasis as well.

Hope this helps and please - if you have questions or

want to discuss - feel free. Just email me.

Shirley E

[Guest guest]

Shirley

Is it the sugar o the yeast, I would love to talk to you more if

possible. Could I call you?

I am in so much pain these days it is almost unbearable, I have 2

small kids and HAVE to be active.

Blessings

Carol

[Guest guest]

Hmmm So taking Brewers Yeast would be a definatee NO-No, I have been

taking it about 1 week and I am in SO much pain today......lol....now

I am killin myself

Carol

>

> Hi Janice

>

> Have you tried refusing yeast products?

> And Coffee?

>

> I feel so much better - a tiny bit of pain when i walk

> but really - nothing like it used to be. And the spin

> off - weight loss.

>

> Try these in earnest and see what happens. Like

> Baking is good for us???? don't think so. I love my

> ryvita crackers - anything without yeast and as a

> result - no coffee means no sugar. I still suck on

> the odd candy but that may leave me too.

>

> Good luck - give it a try

>

> shirley

[Guest guest]

Shirley,

I have a question do you not have caffeine at all or is it just something in

coffee? You do allow yourself sugar right, just not yeast?

THanks,

shirley enslin <shirleyenslin@...> wrote:

Hi Janice

I've been having pain and discomfort for many years

now and when Vioxx was happenin', i loved it and it

gave me relief. Now - I needed to go on to

methotrexate and everything in my body and mind

refused to go there.

So - a friend recommended that i might like to try

going off all yeast products and coffee. I did - had

a headache for a day and just drink my Roibos tea -

without sugar - and no yeast - just crackers or any of

the wonderful products we now have without yeast and

my god - i feel wonderful. As a result - i dropped

weight - immediately and i assume it's the yeast

products that caused this rumbling inside of me -

yeast factory in my body that screamed for sugar -

Which of course yeast needs just like in bread - and

on and on i w ent. I got fed up with this feeling -

not wanting to take the heavy duty drugs and started

my regime. How simple and how much better i feel.

In the mornings i still have this pain in my feet so

it takes a bit to get going but really - nothing like

before - it last for a few minutes and now if i take

an advil in 2-3 days - well then i will but for the

most part - i don't need to go with 600 mg of advil as

soon as i can reach for the bottle and then again in

the aft.

Today i'm going to the drug store for a candida

cleanse and continue to clean up my body.

I have no trouble not having sugar - and treat myself

with a candy every once in a while - just sucking on

it gives me that sweetness that i need and really - no

gobs of butter - no dairy - just yogurt in the a.m.

with my granola mixture and i'm good to go. I'm a

potter and spend many hours throwing and have no

trouble with that.

I'm now going to try cider vinegar - think it will be

good for my joints.

It's not a cure, i don't think - perhaps so - but it

keeps things manageable without horrid drugs. There

may be a day when i may need to resort to something

stronger but you know - i don't think so. It's so

much to do with diet i think. I can move my toes now

- wiggle them when before - there was no independence

in my joints at all - they were all stiff. I can now

start walking again and see what happens with that.

My psoriasis - under control with duvobet - awesome

stuff and yes, cortisone is not exactly a good drug

but it keeps that from spreading and me feeling all

patchy and red. I went to the Cayman Islands for xmas

and spent alot of time in the salt water and i think

that helped my psoriasis as well - sun and salt water.

My nails are still compromised - rough and weak and

don't know what will happen with that but we'll see.

My skin specialist agreed with me that vinegar helps

psoriasis very much so - whenever i remember - i use

vinegar on my psoriasis as well.

Hope this helps and please - if you have questions or

want to discuss - feel free. Just email me.

Shirley E

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeff

I do not drink coffee or anything with caffeine. Just

Rooibos tea - and other herbal teas i guess - i drink

rooibos. No bread - nothing with yeast and this has

cut back on my sugar tremendously. I have lost weight

and now - it's about a week and no pain killers. I

actually walk down stairs without pain. Hard to

believe but true. So worth a try.

Shirley

--- JEFF DELAZZER <jdelazzer@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

Shirley,

I have a question do you not have caffeine at all or

is it just something in coffee? You do allow yourself

sugar right, just not yeast?

THanks,

[Guest guest]

Hello

No caffine, no yeast I am starting tomorrow.........I am so tired of being in

pain, even with drugs.

Many Blessings

Carol

------- Original Message -------

From : shirley enslin[mailto:shirleyenslin@...]

Sent : 3/9/2006 9:31:05 AM

To :

Cc :

Subject : RE: Re: [ ] psoriatic arthritis pain - diet changes

makes great ...

Hi Jeff

I do not drink coffee or anything with caffeine. Just

Rooibos tea - and other herbal teas i guess - i drink

rooibos. No bread - nothing with yeast and this has

cut back on my sugar tremendously. I have lost weight

and now - it's about a week and no pain killers. I

actually walk down stairs without pain. Hard to

believe but true. So worth a try.

Shirley

[Guest guest]

Hi

Just drink some Rooibos tea or something else that you

can find that has no tanine or caffeine - herbal -

good for you teas and try that cat's claw - i checked

it out at the health food store and it apparently

works wonders. As for the bread - i love breads and

baking - i don't miss it at all - i use ryveta

crackers and others like it - check for the yeast

content - and love the crunch. Ryveta with seasame

sees - hmmm - delicious. You will find your butter

consumption dives - sugar - (no coffee) and dairy -

only yogurt in the morning with granola. I love my

new diet and love the fact that i'm losing weight -

have no pain and stopping the horrid killer - sugar!

Good luck and if you like - give me your phone and

i'll call you. Please email that to my

enslin@... email.

Shirley

--- " carolsmisc@... "

<carolsmisc@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

Hello

No caffine, no yeast I am starting tomorrow.........I

am so tired of being in pain, even with drugs.

Many Blessings

Carol

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeff

as a result of no coffee - i have no dairy - except

for yogurt and my sugar consumption has pretty well

stopped. I suck on a hard candy every once in a while

- and a treat - but really - my sugar bowl is not

touched - never drink pop - not even diet pop and i

drink juice - don't worry about sugar in that and lots

of distilled water. Tea, juice and water.

I've always known that sugar is our silent killer and

wanted to stop the use of it and now i can. And you

know what? without the yeast - my body is not

constantly asking for sugar - (it needs sugar to

reproduce in your body and that's why the cravings) so

- no yeast and as a result - no sugar. No coffee -

just tea (herbal) and i feel terrific. I realize that

we're all different and what may affect you may not

affect me but the change is so darned noticeable that

i couldn't stop from telling you. Just try it - it's

not as big as you think - i think the pain is bigger

and i have only this life to life and the minutes are

ticking. I'm a potter and love my art and i love

gardening - and i love just being able to walk - and

now i go down my stairs to my studio with no pain. No

pain! can you imagine that? I can hardly believe it

sometimes. No yeast - there are so many lovely

crunchy crackers out there - no coffee - gorgeous teas

and no dairy as a result - and no sugar except for the

odd hard candy or treat that i feel i can't do

without. those darn christmas candies - When i go to

the store - i don't buy this candy and that one - and

maybe a bar - i don't and i don't buy cookies and

perhaps bake this cake - it's not an issue for me and

i save on my grocery bill - feel terrific and clean my

body of those horrible things i was putting into it.

I don't even take advil anymore.

So - Jeff - today - stop it and see what happens.

It's not as if you'll be depriving yourself of

something good for your body! Someone told me that we

need bread - never heard that one before but i think

she must of meant grains and how many other ways can

we get grains!

I like to make my own granola mixture with oatmeal and

nuts and coconut - toss with some olive oil and honey

and into the oven for a few minutes and that over

yogurt is my mainstay and has been since i started.

Fills me nicely - good for me and everything moves so

nicely in me.

Love it love it love it and wait to hear from you.

shirley

--- shirley enslin <shirleyenslin@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi Jeff

I do not drink coffee or anything with caffeine. Just

Rooibos tea - and other herbal teas i guess - i drink

rooibos. No bread - nothing with yeast and this has

cut back on my sugar tremendously. I have lost weight

and now - it's about a week and no pain killers. I

actually walk down stairs without pain. Hard to

believe but true. So worth a try.

Shirley

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/10/2006 9:38:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

shirleyenslin@... writes:

Just drink some Rooibos tea or something else that you

can find that has no tanine or caffeine - herbal -

good for you teas

Celestial Seasonings also makes a tea called Morning Thunder that has a

coffee like taste...