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" C.Tab. " <tab@...> wrote:

<<Dear Peggy,

Did you have cognitive problems before the tricyclics? >>

Christie -

Yes, I did have major cognitive problems before taking doxepin. I had tried

other antidepressants, which didn't seem to have much affect on cognitive

functioning. I'm a writer (though not doing much of that now), so I really

notice things like word-finding difficulty and memory loss when I try to

write, and while I was on the doxepin I was able to write a lot more. Before

that, in the years I had CFIDS prior to starting the medication, I could

barely write at all because of the cognitive stuff. I noticed Klonopin also

helped somewhat at first. But I don't understand how doxepin would affect

the cognitive symptoms.

Peggy

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norellmounger wrote:

> Since my PA is mostly in my lower spine, I have days with terrible

> cognitive problems. After I started taking anti-inflammatories, it

> isn't as bad. The problems are things like brain/hand or brain/mouth

> disconnects. I'll be in the middle of a sentence, and just go

> completely blank. Or I get the nouns in the sentence switched. When

> I took calligraphy, I kept doing the strokes backwards. I couldn't

> look at the letter and copy it. I had to draw it from memory.

>

> I also couldn't understand written instructions. And following a

> recipe was hard because I couldn't remember anything more than a few

> seconds. I'm taking tai chi now, and I have some confusion with

> certain hand movements. I think I know what it must be like to have

> senile dementia, because I also had panicky attacks, unrealistic

> fears, and the odd depressed episode.

>

> Things are a little better these days, but I still make strange

> judgment calls, so I have to be careful when I drive.

>

> norell

6/11/2006

>

>

Hi Norell

We call it " brain fog " or just the fog. It is a common complaint with a

lot of us. If you do a search thru the forum messages you will see more

than a few of us with it. Doesn't have any connection with the lower

spine or where ever. Just seems to be part of the disease. Once you know

there are others like you it can help to see what they have done to cope

and try what you think can work for you.

You are not alone

duane

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You don't know how relieved I am to hear this. I have been telling

my GP, rheumy, and the psychiatrist that I have memory problems,

trouble speaking smoothly, etc. I have took a memory test to have a

baseline to compare with. It seems that even with what I have

forgotten, I remember much more still than the average person. But I

know that things are slipping. I have several cheat sheets at work

and several memory tricks to get me through the rough spots. I felt

like alzheimers was settling in. Is there no way to deal with it?

Suzy

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Suzy: I also thought Alzheimer was settling in two year ago. I don't worry

about it now as I ahve my PA to worry about.

A Chinese friend me gave a bag of green tea as a present. I noticed memory

improvement in a few weeks. After I noticed that, I was susprised to hear in

the morning TV that green tea improves memory.

suzy849 <bunky903@...> wrote:

You don't know how relieved I am to hear this. I have been telling

my GP, rheumy, and the psychiatrist that I have memory problems,

trouble speaking smoothly, etc. I have took a memory test to have a

baseline to compare with. It seems that even with what I have

forgotten, I remember much more still than the average person. But I

know that things are slipping. I have several cheat sheets at work

and several memory tricks to get me through the rough spots. I felt

like alzheimers was settling in. Is there no way to deal with it?

Suzy

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Suzy,

Memory Tips and tricks?

Make lists, lists, and more lists. Organized people typically use lists. I

have mine posted on the bulletin board in my office. In files on my desk

top. Post-it notes on my computer.

You can spend some serious bucks on a Day-Timer or something similar. But I

find a simple wallet size calendar, and a small spiral notebook work just as

good.

The key is figuring out what you need help on.

Dates & appointments use a calendar.

Phone numbers use an address book.

Things to Do use a spiral book.

Don't try to memorize everything, just memorize where you can find the

information.

Good Luck.

Sandy swOhio

PS. I never go into a meeting without a prompt sheet of things I want to

say. That goes for meetings at work, at home with husband, and doctors.

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Suzy

Yup - me too. I used to have a mind like a steel trap - until just a

few months ago. Seems like when my leetle friend ( PA ) ramped up last

summer it's been slowly getting foggy inside behind my eyeballs. I'm

frequently having to backtrack on conversations because I forget where

I was headed. Since I live in the SF area, and it's summer, I'm just

going to have to accept there will be frequent fog inside and out...(g)

Luckily, it's not too bad. I could have had mathnawi-zheimers ... (

ok, who's throwin the tomatoes - lol )

Cheers -uh, what's my name again, oh yeah -

[Editor's Note: Better duck: INCOMING TOMATO! Kathy F.]

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I totally feel for you!!!!!! I have the same problems with brain/

hand and brain/mouth disconnects and also memory problems

along with panicky attacks, unrealistic fears, depressed episodes.

>

> Since my PA is mostly in my lower spine, I have days with terrible

> cognitive problems. After I started taking anti-inflammatories, it

> isn't as bad. The problems are things like brain/hand or

brain/mouth

> disconnects. I'll be in the middle of a sentence, and just go

> completely blank. Or I get the nouns in the sentence switched.

When

> I took calligraphy, I kept doing the strokes backwards. I couldn't

> look at the letter and copy it. I had to draw it from memory.

>

> I also couldn't understand written instructions. And following a

> recipe was hard because I couldn't remember anything more than a

few

> seconds. I'm taking tai chi now, and I have some confusion with

> certain hand movements. I think I know what it must be like to

have

> senile dementia, because I also had panicky attacks, unrealistic

> fears, and the odd depressed episode.

>

> Things are a little better these days, but I still make strange

> judgment calls, so I have to be careful when I drive.

>

> norell

>

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I just thought I was a ditz. I'm brunette but I still get called Dumb Blond. I

thought that it was due to keeping up with . I keep learning more and more

about this stinking disease. Brain Fog. I carry little notes around with me. If

I have to get more than 3 things at the supermarket I have to have a list. I

have to write down what I need to do each day in the order that I need to do it

or I'll drive in circles. Did not know it was a PA thing. I feel better about

myself now. -Betz

Betsy Jack itsbetsy@...

Re: [ ] Re: Cognitive Problems

Suzy,

Memory Tips and tricks?

Make lists, lists, and more lists. Organized people typically use lists. I

have mine posted on the bulletin board in my office. In files on my desk

top. Post-it notes on my computer.

You can spend some serious bucks on a Day-Timer or something similar. But I

find a simple wallet size calendar, and a small spiral notebook work just as

good.

The key is figuring out what you need help on.

Dates & appointments use a calendar.

Phone numbers use an address book.

Things to Do use a spiral book.

Don't try to memorize everything, just memorize where you can find the

information.

Good Luck.

Sandy swOhio

PS. I never go into a meeting without a prompt sheet of things I want to

say. That goes for meetings at work, at home with husband, and doctors.

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Thanks, . I drink gobs of green tea every day. I think it must

be my meds...but I need them to function...so I guess I will have to

use my postits and memory sheets to get buy.

Suzy

>

> Suzy: I also thought Alzheimer was settling in two year ago. I

don't worry about it now as I ahve my PA to worry about.

>

> A Chinese friend me gave a bag of green tea as a present. I

noticed memory improvement in a few weeks. After I noticed that, I

was susprised to hear in the morning TV that green tea improves

memory.

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 14/06/2006 00:54:19 GMT Daylight Time, pastoork@...

writes:

A Chinese friend me gave a bag of green tea as a present. I noticed memory

improvement in a few weeks. After I noticed that, I was susprised to hear in the

morning TV that green tea improves memory.

Hi ,

Just talking about improving your memory reminds me of a couple of my

friends. The conversation went like this.

Jim, '.......................yeah, I can remember things better since I

bought a book called How To Improve Your Memory' Willie, 'Sounds good! Could

you

loan it to me?' Jim, 'I would but I can't remember where I put it!' lol

I may have told that story to this group before but..................yes, you

guessed it! If I have I have forgotten about it. lol

Take care,

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This is very confusing to me! How do you know what to take?

http://thetenthparadigm.org/therapy.htm

I'm already taking 800i.u. vitamin E, calcium, magnesium, zinc, fish oil,

b-complex, a good multi, estroven (Menopause), vitamin C, bioflavonoids and

quercitin. I'm probably forgetting something.

>

> This is exactly what happened to me. Ive found supplements that work for me

over the last 9 years and they all just happen to be the same as what dr. pall

recommends.

>

> but there are a few more supplements on his site that i want to try.

> http://thetenthparadigm.org/arg.htm

>

>

>

> > I wound with my own protocol that was

> > nearly identical to Marty Pall's protocol.

>

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> This is very confusing to me! How do you know what to take?

The Pall protocol is what most are using. You also experiment to see

what works for you and you join the treatment discussion list.

> I'm already taking 800i.u. vitamin E, calcium, magnesium, zinc, fish oil,

b-complex, a good multi, estroven (Menopause), vitamin C, bioflavonoids and

quercitin. I'm probably forgetting something.

What you're taking is inadequate to downregulate the NO/ONOO- cycle.

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