Re: Pills or injection of Metho..what is your opinion

[Guest guest]

I have been diagnosed with Psoriatic Arthritis for about 6 months. I

started on the pills, but found that injections worked a bit faster.

I have read that injections are more potent because they go directly

into your system. I am also on HUmira. I have not had full

remission on these two drugs, but I do feel better. I can get out of

bed! I would suggest since you will be injecting Enbrel anyway to do

injections!

>

> Hi all!

> My new Rheumy is planning to start me on methotrexate next week,

if my hepatitis panel turns out alright. He is given me the option of

either pills or injections. He says there is no difference but I know

you all have real experience.

>

> Also my x-ray showed that there is diffenetely no cartilidge left

in my right hip and that not only is the ball part of my femur

diseased with arthritis but also the cup. He says that my best chance

to get a surgeon to even talk to me is to at least be on all

the " heavy " hitting drugs and try them. If all goes well with Metho

I'll be on Enbrel as well in two months. I also have vicadin for my

super bad days.

>

> I'm scared to death of all this. But thank God for this group and

all of everyone's experience.

>

> Peace and love and a lot of painless days,

>

>

>

> [Editor's Note: Most people have fewer side effects on the

injectible form of MTX than on the oral, if that's any help - but

we're all different! Kathy F.]

>

[Guest guest]

i inject enbrel & methotrexate its muh better than taking pills all the time

injecting metho for 2 yrs just started enbrel ... heres hoping 4 the better

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Hi

IMO this is a good sign - your doc is now an ally in your quest for a

new hip...

I take the injections - I already take too many pills. Advantage a

mentioned is a bit higher plasma level, no stomach problems. As

mentioned, since you will need to inject enbrel anyway...

Your new rheumy sounds like a keeper. I like his attitude, and it sure

sounds like he will go to bat for you when needed.

I'm on my 6th month of MTX now, starting my 3rd month of enbrel. It

hasn't been a magical panacea for me, but I am *much* better, and

expect to improve moreso over the next months. I was able to finally

come off prednisone this month after being on it since October. I'm

having some aches and tendonitis - my joints liked the prednisone lol

- but not overwhelming like it was. I give the MTX / Enbrel combo a

7/10 rating for me, and that will probably go up to 8/10 if I'm lucky.

Good luck - keeping my fingers crossed that you can get your

hip. As you can see there are a lot of members who have had as many as

3 hip replacements - it can and is being done...

Cheers -

>

> Hi all!

> My new Rheumy is planning to start me on methotrexate next week,

if my hepatitis panel turns out alright. He is given me the option of

either pills or injections. He says there is no difference but I know

you all have real experience.

>

> Also my x-ray showed that there is diffenetely no cartilidge left

in my right hip and that not only is the ball part of my femur

diseased with arthritis but also the cup. He says that my best chance

to get a surgeon to even talk to me is to at least be on all the

" heavy " hitting drugs and try them. If all goes well with Metho I'll

be on Enbrel as well in two months. I also have vicadin for my super

bad days.

>

> I'm scared to death of all this. But thank God for this group and

all of everyone's experience.

>

> Peace and love and a lot of painless days,

>

>

>

> [Editor's Note: Most people have fewer side effects on the

injectible form of MTX than on the oral, if that's any help - but

we're all different! Kathy F.]

>

[Guest guest]

Hi...I'm new here today, and I did a search on MTX....and thought I'd

respond to this....I've been on MTX for about a year, and the scariest

thing about it, in my experience, has been the regulating of it. It

took a while to get to a level that I could tolerate and see some

improvement. I get sick about every other week (I take eight pills once

a week), and that is no fun. It's flu-like symptoms that I suffer when

I get sick. Sometimes, I think it's a sign that I just need to rest.

Fatigue has been my biggest (immediate) concern with the whole PA

disease. I've never been so tired in my life! But I digress. MTX is

one of the better drugs for PA, in my opinion. Pretty effective, for

most people. Good luck. I hope you and MTX get along. I'm a

needle-phobe, so it had to be pills for me (even though I have to endure

the needle for the remicade treatment I'm undergoing.

>

> Hi all!

> My new Rheumy is planning to start me on methotrexate next week, if my

hepatitis panel turns out alright. He is given me the option of either

pills or injections. He says there is no difference but I know you all

have real experience.

>

> Also my x-ray showed that there is diffenetely no cartilidge left in

my right hip and that not only is the ball part of my femur diseased

with arthritis but also the cup. He says that my best chance to get a

surgeon to even talk to me is to at least be on all the " heavy " hitting

drugs and try them. If all goes well with Metho I'll be on Enbrel as

well in two months. I also have vicadin for my super bad days.

>

> I'm scared to death of all this. But thank God for this group and all

of everyone's experience.

>

> Peace and love and a lot of painless days,

>

>

>

> [Editor's Note: Most people have fewer side effects on the injectible

form of MTX than on the oral, if that's any help - but we're all

different! Kathy F.]

>

[Guest guest]

Hi! Well luckily I'm only starting with 4 pills a week so hopefully I'll be ok

with the sickness. I think 4 is an odd amount to try to figure out when to take

them but I guess I'll figure it out.

Thanks for your input,

in Chicago

directorsmom <kywoman410@...> wrote:

Hi...I'm new here today, and I did a search on MTX....and thought I'd

respond to this....I've been on MTX for about a year, and the scariest

thing about it, in my experience, has been the regulating of it. It

took a while to get to a level that I could tolerate and see some

improvement. I get sick about every other week (I take eight pills once

a week), and that is no fun. It's flu-like symptoms that I suffer when

I get sick. Sometimes, I think it's a sign that I just need to rest.

Fatigue has been my biggest (immediate) concern with the whole PA

disease. I've never been so tired in my life! But I digress. MTX is

one of the better drugs for PA, in my opinion. Pretty effective, for

most people. Good luck. I hope you and MTX get along. I'm a

needle-phobe, so it had to be pills for me (even though I have to endure

the needle for the remicade treatment I'm undergoing.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/05/2006 00:33:16 GMT Daylight Time, jdelazzer@...

writes:

Also my x-ray showed that there is diffenetely no cartilidge left in my right

hip and that not only is the ball part of my femur diseased with arthritis

but also the cup. He says that my best chance to get a surgeon to even talk to

me is to at least be on all the " heavy " hitting drugs and try them. If all goes

well with Metho I'll be on Enbrel as well in two months. I also have vicadin

for my super bad days.

Hi ,

I'm sorry to hear that your hip is so bad. How are you getting on with the

MTX? ok I hope. From what you were saying you must be a couple of weeks away

from starting on Enbrel too? Would that be right? I hope it really helps you

when

you do start it.

I just read one of your later mails. I was told initially by my Reumy that I

shouldn't drink alcohol while taking MTX but a couple of months later when we

spoke about it again, he said that I could take the odd pint of beer or glass

of wine as long as I didn't overdo it. He said with some people if you give

them an inch, they will take a mile so they are careful about what they tell

people and probably who they tell too.

Right! Where did I put that 9th glass of wine I was having? 'hic' lol

..............and I bet when Kathy told you she takes an occasional glass of

wine she didn't tell you that the glass she uses holds 10 litres! lol

Again, I hope the MTX is working for you and the Enbrel does too if you start

it.

Take care and good luck,

[Guest guest]

,

Hi! My rheumy decided against putting me on enbrel for awhile since we found

out my hip problem is avascular necrosis now which osteoarthritis has decided to

set in on top of (as well as some sort of a tumour, oh my). Anyway all of my

blood work came back well and I am able to have my wine now and then, which is

good because keep in mind I do have three small daughters to deal with everyday.

LOL!

I am using a cane consistently now and it is discouraging being in my twenty's

and getting the usual looks like what the heck is wrong with that lady. But I

have found that it helps me in keeping my daughters and dogs in line by knocking

them with the cane. Just kidding LOL!

Take care and thank you,

martincoyless@... wrote:

In a message dated 11/05/2006 00:33:16 GMT Daylight Time, jdelazzer@...

writes:

Also my x-ray showed that there is diffenetely no cartilidge left in my right

hip and that not only is the ball part of my femur diseased with arthritis

but also the cup. He says that my best chance to get a surgeon to even talk to

me is to at least be on all the " heavy " hitting drugs and try them. If all goes

well with Metho I'll be on Enbrel as well in two months. I also have vicadin

for my super bad days.

Hi ,

I'm sorry to hear that your hip is so bad. How are you getting on with the

MTX? ok I hope. From what you were saying you must be a couple of weeks away

from starting on Enbrel too? Would that be right? I hope it really helps you

when

you do start it.

I just read one of your later mails. I was told initially by my Reumy that I

shouldn't drink alcohol while taking MTX but a couple of months later when we

spoke about it again, he said that I could take the odd pint of beer or glass

of wine as long as I didn't overdo it. He said with some people if you give

them an inch, they will take a mile so they are careful about what they tell

people and probably who they tell too.

Right! Where did I put that 9th glass of wine I was having? 'hic' lol

..............and I bet when Kathy told you she takes an occasional glass of

wine she didn't tell you that the glass she uses holds 10 litres! lol

Again, I hope the MTX is working for you and the Enbrel does too if you start

it.

Take care and good luck,

[Guest guest]

Hi kywoman,

Just wanted to congratulate you on being in this group six

weeks.............................well, really it was to welcome you to the

group but I'm so

late in doing so you probably think I'M new! lol

Snap! I'm on 8 MTX pills a week too. (Rattle Rattle) I'm glad it has been

working well for you although the fact you are being sick with it is not so

good.

I also had that problem but it seemed to be the Ciclosporin I was taking at

the time which was causing the sickness.

Reading one of your later posts I see that you are also having problems with

your fingers. I hope the procedure the surgeon is going to carry out works for

you. I have the Mutilans form of PA and it has left two of my fingers like,

how shall we say, a Hobbits fingers might look. lol

No, the fingers (pinkie on right hand and ring finger on left) have shortened

by quite a bit.

Have they given you a date for the surgery yet?

I'm glad you could join us..................even if it HAS taken me a long

time to say so. lol

Take care,

You Wrote:

In a message dated 19/05/2006 10:48:06 GMT Daylight Time, kywoman410@...

writes:

Hi...I'm new here today, and I did a search on MTX....and thought I'd

respond to this....I've been on MTX for about a year, and the scariest

thing about it, in my experience, has been the regulating of it.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 30/06/2006 22:48:47 GMT Daylight Time, jdelazzer@...

writes:

Hi! My rheumy decided against putting me on enbrel for awhile since we found

out my hip problem is avascular necrosis now which osteoarthritis has decided

to set in on top of (as well as some sort of a tumour, oh my).

Hi ,

Thanks for the reply. Are they going to do something about that. I hope it is

something which can be dealt with easily.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

Hi! My rheumy decided against putting me on enbrel for awhile since we found

out my hip problem is avascular necrosis now which osteoarthritis has decided

to set in on top of (as well as some sort of a tumour, oh my).

Gosh that is bad.. I hope this gets taken care of... When will they be

addressing the tumor and working on that? Hope all works out for you...

Love and Peace Always

Shaun and Barb

[Guest guest]

,

I have to have a hip replacement there is no way around it. I'm meeting with a

surgeon finally this Friday so we'll see what he says. It's all so crazy, I hope

he will help me.

Thanks!

martincoyless@... wrote:

In a message dated 30/06/2006 22:48:47 GMT Daylight Time, jdelazzer@...

writes:

Hi! My rheumy decided against putting me on enbrel for awhile since we found

out my hip problem is avascular necrosis now which osteoarthritis has decided

to set in on top of (as well as some sort of a tumour, oh my).

Hi ,

Thanks for the reply. Are they going to do something about that. I hope it is

something which can be dealt with easily.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

,

I have to have a hip replacement there is no way around it. I'm meeting with a

surgeon finally this Friday so we'll see what he says. It's all so crazy, I hope

he will help me.

Thanks!

martincoyless@... wrote:

In a message dated 30/06/2006 22:48:47 GMT Daylight Time, jdelazzer@...

writes:

Hi! My rheumy decided against putting me on enbrel for awhile since we found

out my hip problem is avascular necrosis now which osteoarthritis has decided

to set in on top of (as well as some sort of a tumour, oh my).

Hi ,

Thanks for the reply. Are they going to do something about that. I hope it is

something which can be dealt with easily.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure when, I'm meeting with the orthopedic surgeon this Friday finally,

after 3 months of waiting to get in. We'll see what he says, I pray that he will

help me.

Thanks for your concern. Love,

Shaun <twohearts1977@...> wrote:

Hi! My rheumy decided against putting me on enbrel for awhile since we

found

out my hip problem is avascular necrosis now which osteoarthritis has decided

to set in on top of (as well as some sort of a tumour, oh my).

Gosh that is bad.. I hope this gets taken care of... When will they be

addressing the tumor and working on that? Hope all works out for you...

Love and Peace Always

Shaun and Barb

[Guest guest]

,

I'm adding my prayer for you, also. No one should be made to live with that

kind of pain.

God Bless you and good luck Friday.

Janet in Ca

[Guest guest]

...keep us posted Hon. I'm sorry you have to do this but

praying that it gives you relief. -Betz

>

> In a message dated 30/06/2006 22:48:47 GMT Daylight Time,

jdelazzer@...

> writes:

>

> Hi! My rheumy decided against putting me on enbrel for awhile

since we found

> out my hip problem is avascular necrosis now which osteoarthritis

has decided

> to set in on top of (as well as some sort of a tumour, oh my).

>

> Hi ,

>

> Thanks for the reply. Are they going to do something about that. I

hope it is

> something which can be dealt with easily.

>

> Good luck,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm meeting with a surgeon finally this Friday so we'll see what he says. It's

all so crazy, I hope he will help me. Thanks!

Good luck with the surgeon... I would hate having that done... But you gotta do

what you gotta do to stay there well and safe...

Love and Peace Always

Shaun and Barb

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your concern. Love,

Good luck...

Love and Peace Always

Shaun and Barb

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 31/07/2006 13:37:30 GMT Daylight Time, jdelazzer@...

writes:

I have to have a hip replacement there is no way around it. I'm meeting with

a surgeon finally this Friday so we'll see what he says. It's all so crazy, I

hope he will help me.

Hi ,

How did you get on with the surgeon?

Hold on.......

Just read your mail dated 6th Aug. That is good news..............Well, it is

not good news that your hip is in such a bad way that you need the operation

but it is good news that you know something will be done about it. I hope

getting it done gives you a new lease of life.

Good luck,