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First off all you must have a new Chest X-ray.

Did you have in the past positive skin test (mantoux)

Then you must visit pneumologist Doctor asap.

He is the appropriate person for reading X-ray

Tuberculosis has specific sympomts.Chest pain,hemoptysis, fever,

chills, night sweats, appetite loss, weight loss, and easy

fatigability. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis)

Have you ever take isoniazid INH med?

Giannis

Athens Greece

>

> Can anyone tell me...

> I am wondering if the symptoms I had of chest pain ... would those

> symptpoms resemble pnemonia? Could the xrays differentiate if it was

TB or

> pnemonia just be looking at them? I have had TB tests in the past but I

> don't remember what meds i was on at that time and which ones can

> stimulate latent TB.

>

> I hadn't even t hought of that till today.... any thoughts will be much

> appreciate.

>

>

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I just had this chest xray. I haven't had a positive skin test ever but I

have not had one since these symptoms of chest pain occured...... I do

have chills at times, night sweats at times. I'm always tired but that's

nothing new....

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, giannis_stavaris wrote:

> First off all you must have a new Chest X-ray.

> Did you have in the past positive skin test (mantoux)

> Then you must visit pneumologist Doctor asap.

> He is the appropriate person for reading X-ray

> Tuberculosis has specific sympomts.Chest pain,hemoptysis, fever,

> chills, night sweats, appetite loss, weight loss, and easy

> fatigability. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis)

>

> Have you ever take isoniazid INH med?

>

> Giannis

> Athens Greece

>>

>

>

>>

>> Can anyone tell me...

>> I am wondering if the symptoms I had of chest pain ... would those

>> symptpoms resemble pnemonia? Could the xrays differentiate if it was

> TB or

>> pnemonia just be looking at them? I have had TB tests in the past but I

>> don't remember what meds i was on at that time and which ones can

>> stimulate latent TB.

>>

>> I hadn't even t hought of that till today.... any thoughts will be much

>> appreciate.

>

>

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Czn I ask a question here? I am a little unclear... What does TB and

pnuemonia have to do with PA? Maybe I'm a little slow, dense or

uninformed, but I haven't a clue... and Spot is looking at me with

the most curious look, kinda like " what the heck are you asking a

stupid question like that for???? " I'm sure he figures he knows, so

everyone else should... (I said he was lazy, not stupid... actually

quite the opposite... Thor's the dense one...)

anyone, can anyone give me an answer??? Thanks all...

michael at critter-central...

>

> Can anyone tell me...

> I am wondering if the symptoms I had of chest pain ... would those

> symptpoms resemble pnemonia? Could the xrays differentiate if it

was TB or

> pnemonia just be looking at them? I have had TB tests in the past

but I

> don't remember what meds i was on at that time and which ones can

> stimulate latent TB.

>

> I hadn't even t hought of that till today.... any thoughts will be

much

> appreciate.

>

>

>

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I have had many bouts with pnuemonia due to the higher infection rate of Enbrel.

Last year I had pnuemonia that my doctor did not think I would survive. At

first they thought it was TB, a concern for all of us on Enbrel and other like

drugs. Many people carry the TB virus(?), and is " stored " in a " little jail

cell " in the lungs, even if we have never had TB. Enbrel breaks down the " jail

cells " , and releases the TB into our bodies. Some people will not test

positive for TB, but still may be a carrier. Thats the simple explaination that

was given to me by my doctor. The doctors were very happy to discover I did not

have TB, apparently its a major deal at the hospital. Everyone (and their

families) that came close to me would have had to be treated, along with the

hospital and the equipment. FWIW, Bob

michaelr_321 <michaelr_321@...> wrote: Czn I ask a question here?

I am a little unclear... What does TB and

pnuemonia have to do with PA? Maybe I'm a little slow, dense or

uninformed, but I haven't a clue... and Spot is looking at me with

the most curious look, kinda like " what the heck are you asking a

stupid question like that for???? " I'm sure he figures he knows, so

everyone else should... (I said he was lazy, not stupid... actually

quite the opposite... Thor's the dense one...)

anyone, can anyone give me an answer??? Thanks all...

michael at critter-central...

>

> Can anyone tell me...

> I am wondering if the symptoms I had of chest pain ... would those

> symptpoms resemble pnemonia? Could the xrays differentiate if it

was TB or

> pnemonia just be looking at them? I have had TB tests in the past

but I

> don't remember what meds i was on at that time and which ones can

> stimulate latent TB.

>

> I hadn't even t hought of that till today.... any thoughts will be

much

> appreciate.

>

>

>

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Can I ask a question here? I am a little unclear... What does TB and

pnuemonia have to do with PA?

It's not so much that TB and pneumonia have anything to do with PA.

But if you have chest symptoms that can indicate either pneumonia OR

TB (lingering cough for several weeks, weight loss, night sweats, low

grade fevers, coughing up blood in the sputum, etc.) it is important

to determine which one you have. For pneumonia, it doesn't affect the

choice of which medications you can use to treat PA, except that you

cannot begin the biologics until after the infection is cleared with a

round of antibiotic therapy. With latent TB, however, you must

complete a course of anti-TB medication and have a negative chest X-

ray before you can start taking ANY biologics. (I don't believe taking

Methotrexate is affected by this, just the biologics like Enbrel,

Orencia, Humira, and Remicade.)

If you do have latent TB and aren't treated before beginning the

biologics, they can suppress your immune system enough so that the TB

can become active. Active TB primarily occurs in the lungs, but there

have been cases where it has occurred in the bones. (That's what Saint

Bernadette of Lourdes died from; TB. It started in her lungs, and

since they didn't have medications back then, it eventually spread to

her bones.)

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Thanks... this was so very clearly stated... way better than I could do

it!:)

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, dreimutter1957 wrote:

> Can I ask a question here? I am a little unclear... What does TB and

> pnuemonia have to do with PA?

>

> It's not so much that TB and pneumonia have anything to do with PA.

> But if you have chest symptoms that can indicate either pneumonia OR

> TB (lingering cough for several weeks, weight loss, night sweats, low

> grade fevers, coughing up blood in the sputum, etc.) it is important

> to determine which one you have. For pneumonia, it doesn't affect the

> choice of which medications you can use to treat PA, except that you

> cannot begin the biologics until after the infection is cleared with a

> round of antibiotic therapy. With latent TB, however, you must

> complete a course of anti-TB medication and have a negative chest X-

> ray before you can start taking ANY biologics. (I don't believe taking

> Methotrexate is affected by this, just the biologics like Enbrel,

> Orencia, Humira, and Remicade.)

>

> If you do have latent TB and aren't treated before beginning the

> biologics, they can suppress your immune system enough so that the TB

> can become active. Active TB primarily occurs in the lungs, but there

> have been cases where it has occurred in the bones. (That's what Saint

> Bernadette of Lourdes died from; TB. It started in her lungs, and

> since they didn't have medications back then, it eventually spread to

> her bones.)

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