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Hi all,

I was up early this morning watching Fox NEWS with my hubby before

he left for work. One of the commercials was for a medical assistance

group. I hurried and grabbed a pen so I could pass along the

information. (Someone was asking about this the other day on the board)

Anyway, the contact info for Partnership for Perscription Assistance

is 888-4PPA-NOW (phone number) and the web address is PPARX.org

Sandi

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If it is the same place I go thru it's very nice. I get my enbrel,

celebrex, zoloft and diovan thru it. Only have to fill out some

papers and give them some tax info. Every so often you will need

to renew the application but it is the same process. Good Luck to

all that try it.

>

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> I was up early this morning watching Fox NEWS with my hubby

before

> he left for work. One of the commercials was for a medical

assistance

> group. I hurried and grabbed a pen so I could pass along the

> information. (Someone was asking about this the other day on the

board)

>

> Anyway, the contact info for Partnership for Perscription

Assistance

> is 888-4PPA-NOW (phone number) and the web address is PPARX.org

>

> Sandi

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Got my testosterone tested at lab quest last week . will post them asap. Not

sure based on my saliva tests whether I need the hc or not?

>

> > From: yinyang42b <acupet@...>

> > Subject: help with meds

> >

> > Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:36 PM

> > 54 year old male with symptoms of

> > brain fog, fatigue, muscle soreness, sensitive to sound for

> > last 4 years .Started erfa in april and has slowly worked up

> > to 4 grains. morning temps started at 96.5 and have risen to

> > 97.4. gets to 98.5 in afternoon at its peak.Bloods /Saliva

> > as follows:

> >

> > Blood  3/5/10

> >

> > Dhea sulfate 163     25-240

> > pregnenolone  12     13-208

> > cortisol a.m.  19     4-22

> > T3 Free       

> > 314   230-420

> > T4 free     

> >    1.1   .8-1.8

> > tsh         

> >    1.37   .4-4.5

> > tyroid perox ab  <10    <35

> > thyroglob ab     <20 

> >    <20

> > hemoglob A1c      5.5%    <6

> >

> > Blood 5/19/10

> >

> > Iron  138          45-170

> > TIBC 331            250-450

> > % sat  42       

> >    20-50

> > UIBC   193         

> > 110-370

> > Ferritin 37          20-380

> > FT3      372       

> >   230-420

> > Ft4      1.0       

> >   .8-1.8

> > T3 Uptake  32.2   

> >    27.8-40.7

> > tsh      .51       

> >    .4-4.5

> > estradiol  34          13-54

> > testosterone total 403   250-1100

> > testost  free   101.2   

> > 35-155

> > testost.% free   2.51    1.5-2.2

> >

> > Started on gentle iron 2 pills daily.also i have been on

> > testosterone for 2 years, 120mg injections weekly.when these

> > were taken i was on 3 grains erfa.

> >

> > Saliva 5/24/10 Diagnostechs

> >

> > Cortisol AM     23    13-24

> >         noon 

> >    7     5-10

> >          PM   

> >   6     3-8

> >         midnight 17    1-4

> >

> > I do suffer from insomnia as well.isophos at night helps w

> > low dose melatonin.

> >

> > Saliva 6/24/10 ZRT labs

> >

> > Cortisol   am 9.5   3.7-9.5

> >           noon

> > 3.0   1.2-3.0

> >            eve 

> > 1.5   .6-1.9

> >           night  .7 

> >   .4-1.0

> > Blood spot zrt

> >

> > PSA 1.3    <5.4

> > FT4  1.6   .7 - 2.5

> > FT3   4.1   2.5-6.5

> > TSH   <.2    .5-3.0

> > TPO    27   0-150

> >

> > Bloods 6/24/10

> >

> > IGF 1  314   87-238

> > Vit d   52.4   32-100

> > Sex hormone binding 18.3  14.5-48

> > Ferritin   112  30-400

> >

> > Currently taking 4 grains erfa, 15 mg HC, gentle iron,

> > testosterone 80 mg every 3 days, 250 hcg every 3 days,

> > arimidex 1/4 tab every 3 days.. I feel tired and spacey all

> > the time. where to go from here? No morning erections and

> > very  low libido. I feel like there is a blockage

> > somewhere but i cant figure it out.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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I was thinking your on HC and this Saliva test was with you taking HC. No you

don't need it you need to take this at bedtime to keep your high levels down.

But your in the first states of having Adreals problems.

Here is a cut and past from this link about sleeping.

http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/

====================================================

In early stages of adrenal fatigue cortisol levels tend to rise and if they are

high at midnight they can energise you and keep you awake. Phosphorylated serine

can be used to lower cortisol at these times due to its ACTH dampening effect.

----------------------------------------------------

And there is a lot of good info about this in this link.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ps/

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Phil

> From: yinyang42b <acupet@...>

> Subject: Re: help with meds

>

> Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 3:47 PM

> Got my testosterone tested at lab

> quest last week . will post them asap. Not sure based on my

> saliva tests whether I need the hc or not?

>

>

>

> >

> > > From: yinyang42b <acupet@...>

> > > Subject: help with meds

> > >

> > > Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:36 PM

> > > 54 year old male with symptoms of

> > > brain fog, fatigue, muscle soreness, sensitive to

> sound for

> > > last 4 years .Started erfa in april and has

> slowly worked up

> > > to 4 grains. morning temps started at 96.5 and

> have risen to

> > > 97.4. gets to 98.5 in afternoon at its

> peak.Bloods /Saliva

> > > as follows:

> > >

> > > Blood  3/5/10

> > >

> > > Dhea sulfate 163     25-240

> > > pregnenolone  12     13-208

> > > cortisol a.m.  19     4-22

> > > T3 Free       

> > > 314   230-420

> > > T4 free     

> > >    1.1   .8-1.8

> > > tsh         

> > >    1.37   .4-4.5

> > > tyroid perox ab  <10    <35

> > > thyroglob ab     <20 

> > >    <20

> > > hemoglob A1c      5.5%    <6

> > >

> > > Blood 5/19/10

> > >

> > > Iron  138          45-170

> > > TIBC 331            250-450

> > > % sat  42       

> > >    20-50

> > > UIBC   193         

> > > 110-370

> > > Ferritin 37          20-380

> > > FT3      372       

> > >   230-420

> > > Ft4      1.0       

> > >   .8-1.8

> > > T3 Uptake  32.2   

> > >    27.8-40.7

> > > tsh      .51       

> > >    .4-4.5

> > > estradiol  34          13-54

> > > testosterone total 403   250-1100

> > > testost  free   101.2   

> > > 35-155

> > > testost.% free   2.51    1.5-2.2

> > >

> > > Started on gentle iron 2 pills daily.also i have

> been on

> > > testosterone for 2 years, 120mg injections

> weekly.when these

> > > were taken i was on 3 grains erfa.

> > >

> > > Saliva 5/24/10 Diagnostechs

> > >

> > > Cortisol AM     23    13-24

> > >         noon 

> > >    7     5-10

> > >          PM   

> > >   6     3-8

> > >         midnight 17    1-4

> > >

> > > I do suffer from insomnia as well.isophos at

> night helps w

> > > low dose melatonin.

> > >

> > > Saliva 6/24/10 ZRT labs

> > >

> > > Cortisol   am 9.5   3.7-9.5

> > >           noon

> > > 3.0   1.2-3.0

> > >            eve 

> > > 1.5   .6-1.9

> > >           night  .7 

> > >   .4-1.0

> > > Blood spot zrt

> > >

> > > PSA 1.3    <5.4

> > > FT4  1.6   .7 - 2.5

> > > FT3   4.1   2.5-6.5

> > > TSH   <.2    .5-3.0

> > > TPO    27   0-150

> > >

> > > Bloods 6/24/10

> > >

> > > IGF 1  314   87-238

> > > Vit d   52.4   32-100

> > > Sex hormone binding 18.3  14.5-48

> > > Ferritin   112  30-400

> > >

> > > Currently taking 4 grains erfa, 15 mg HC, gentle

> iron,

> > > testosterone 80 mg every 3 days, 250 hcg every 3

> days,

> > > arimidex 1/4 tab every 3 days.. I feel tired and

> spacey all

> > > the time. where to go from here? No morning

> erections and

> > > very  low libido. I feel like there is a

> blockage

> > > somewhere but i cant figure it out.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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Phil,

Thanks for that input. I do take isophos and melatonin 1 mg at night.

I will wind down the HC low dose im on. It didnt do much for me anyway. Do you

think my inadequate testost levels and elevated estrogen can account for how

crappy ive felt for the past 3.5 years?

I am tired and aching like never before, and viagra doesnt work for me

anymore.My BP runs 150/85.

> > >

> > > > From: yinyang42b <acupet@>

> > > > Subject: help with meds

> > > >

> > > > Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:36 PM

> > > > 54 year old male with symptoms of

> > > > brain fog, fatigue, muscle soreness, sensitive to

> > sound for

> > > > last 4 years .Started erfa in april and has

> > slowly worked up

> > > > to 4 grains. morning temps started at 96.5 and

> > have risen to

> > > > 97.4. gets to 98.5 in afternoon at its

> > peak.Bloods /Saliva

> > > > as follows:

> > > >

> > > > Blood  3/5/10

> > > >

> > > > Dhea sulfate 163     25-240

> > > > pregnenolone  12     13-208

> > > > cortisol a.m.  19     4-22

> > > > T3 Free       

> > > > 314   230-420

> > > > T4 free     

> > > >    1.1   .8-1.8

> > > > tsh         

> > > >    1.37   .4-4.5

> > > > tyroid perox ab  <10    <35

> > > > thyroglob ab     <20 

> > > >    <20

> > > > hemoglob A1c      5.5%    <6

> > > >

> > > > Blood 5/19/10

> > > >

> > > > Iron  138          45-170

> > > > TIBC 331            250-450

> > > > % sat  42       

> > > >    20-50

> > > > UIBC   193         

> > > > 110-370

> > > > Ferritin 37          20-380

> > > > FT3      372       

> > > >   230-420

> > > > Ft4      1.0       

> > > >   .8-1.8

> > > > T3 Uptake  32.2   

> > > >    27.8-40.7

> > > > tsh      .51       

> > > >    .4-4.5

> > > > estradiol  34          13-54

> > > > testosterone total 403   250-1100

> > > > testost  free   101.2   

> > > > 35-155

> > > > testost.% free   2.51    1.5-2.2

> > > >

> > > > Started on gentle iron 2 pills daily.also i have

> > been on

> > > > testosterone for 2 years, 120mg injections

> > weekly.when these

> > > > were taken i was on 3 grains erfa.

> > > >

> > > > Saliva 5/24/10 Diagnostechs

> > > >

> > > > Cortisol AM     23    13-24

> > > >         noon 

> > > >    7     5-10

> > > >          PM   

> > > >   6     3-8

> > > >         midnight 17    1-4

> > > >

> > > > I do suffer from insomnia as well.isophos at

> > night helps w

> > > > low dose melatonin.

> > > >

> > > > Saliva 6/24/10 ZRT labs

> > > >

> > > > Cortisol   am 9.5   3.7-9.5

> > > >           noon

> > > > 3.0   1.2-3.0

> > > >            eve 

> > > > 1.5   .6-1.9

> > > >           night  .7 

> > > >   .4-1.0

> > > > Blood spot zrt

> > > >

> > > > PSA 1.3    <5.4

> > > > FT4  1.6   .7 - 2.5

> > > > FT3   4.1   2.5-6.5

> > > > TSH   <.2    .5-3.0

> > > > TPO    27   0-150

> > > >

> > > > Bloods 6/24/10

> > > >

> > > > IGF 1  314   87-238

> > > > Vit d   52.4   32-100

> > > > Sex hormone binding 18.3  14.5-48

> > > > Ferritin   112  30-400

> > > >

> > > > Currently taking 4 grains erfa, 15 mg HC, gentle

> > iron,

> > > > testosterone 80 mg every 3 days, 250 hcg every 3

> > days,

> > > > arimidex 1/4 tab every 3 days.. I feel tired and

> > spacey all

> > > > the time. where to go from here? No morning

> > erections and

> > > > very  low libido. I feel like there is a

> > blockage

> > > > somewhere but i cant figure it out.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

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All you can do is try it high Estradiol levels made my life a living Hell.

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Phil

> From: yinyang42b <acupet@...>

> Subject: Re: help with meds

>

> Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 2:13 PM

> Phil,

> Thanks for that input. I do take isophos and melatonin 1 mg

> at night.

> I will wind down the HC low dose im on. It didnt do much

> for me anyway. Do you think my inadequate testost levels and

> elevated estrogen can account for how crappy ive felt for

> the past 3.5 years?

> I am tired and aching like never before, and viagra doesnt

> work for me anymore.My BP runs 150/85.

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > From: yinyang42b <acupet@>

> > > > > Subject: help with meds

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:36 PM

> > > > > 54 year old male with symptoms of

> > > > > brain fog, fatigue, muscle soreness,

> sensitive to

> > > sound for

> > > > > last 4 years .Started erfa in april and

> has

> > > slowly worked up

> > > > > to 4 grains. morning temps started at

> 96.5 and

> > > have risen to

> > > > > 97.4. gets to 98.5 in afternoon at its

> > > peak.Bloods /Saliva

> > > > > as follows:

> > > > >

> > > > > Blood  3/5/10

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhea sulfate 163     25-240

> > > > > pregnenolone  12     13-208

> > > > > cortisol a.m.  19     4-22

> > > > > T3 Free       

> > > > > 314   230-420

> > > > > T4 free     

> > > > >    1.1   .8-1.8

> > > > > tsh         

> > > > >    1.37   .4-4.5

> > > > > tyroid perox ab  <10    <35

> > > > > thyroglob ab     <20 

> > > > >    <20

> > > > > hemoglob A1c      5.5%    <6

> > > > >

> > > > > Blood 5/19/10

> > > > >

> > > > > Iron  138          45-170

> > > > > TIBC 331            250-450

> > > > > % sat  42       

> > > > >    20-50

> > > > > UIBC   193         

> > > > > 110-370

> > > > > Ferritin 37          20-380

> > > > > FT3      372       

> > > > >   230-420

> > > > > Ft4      1.0       

> > > > >   .8-1.8

> > > > > T3 Uptake  32.2   

> > > > >    27.8-40.7

> > > > > tsh      .51       

> > > > >    .4-4.5

> > > > > estradiol  34          13-54

> > > > > testosterone total 403   250-1100

> > > > > testost  free   101.2   

> > > > > 35-155

> > > > > testost.% free   2.51    1.5-2.2

> > > > >

> > > > > Started on gentle iron 2 pills

> daily.also i have

> > > been on

> > > > > testosterone for 2 years, 120mg

> injections

> > > weekly.when these

> > > > > were taken i was on 3 grains erfa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Saliva 5/24/10 Diagnostechs

> > > > >

> > > > > Cortisol AM     23    13-24

> > > > >         noon 

> > > > >    7     5-10

> > > > >          PM   

> > > > >   6     3-8

> > > > >         midnight 17    1-4

> > > > >

> > > > > I do suffer from insomnia as

> well.isophos at

> > > night helps w

> > > > > low dose melatonin.

> > > > >

> > > > > Saliva 6/24/10 ZRT labs

> > > > >

> > > > > Cortisol   am 9.5   3.7-9.5

> > > > >           noon

> > > > > 3.0   1.2-3.0

> > > > >            eve 

> > > > > 1.5   .6-1.9

> > > > >           night  .7 

> > > > >   .4-1.0

> > > > > Blood spot zrt

> > > > >

> > > > > PSA 1.3    <5.4

> > > > > FT4  1.6   .7 - 2.5

> > > > > FT3   4.1   2.5-6.5

> > > > > TSH   <.2    .5-3.0

> > > > > TPO    27   0-150

> > > > >

> > > > > Bloods 6/24/10

> > > > >

> > > > > IGF 1  314   87-238

> > > > > Vit d   52.4   32-100

> > > > > Sex hormone binding 18.3  14.5-48

> > > > > Ferritin   112  30-400

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently taking 4 grains erfa, 15 mg

> HC, gentle

> > > iron,

> > > > > testosterone 80 mg every 3 days, 250

> hcg every 3

> > > days,

> > > > > arimidex 1/4 tab every 3 days.. I feel

> tired and

> > > spacey all

> > > > > the time. where to go from here? No

> morning

> > > erections and

> > > > > very  low libido. I feel like there is

> a

> > > blockage

> > > > > somewhere but i cant figure it out.

>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Latest labs:

Testosterone ,total serum 675 280-800

free testost. direct 19.8 7.2-24

Reverse T3 363 90-350

yikes. im on 4 grains erfa and my temps are still at 97.5 and pretty

stable.stopped the HC.

> > > >

> > > > > From: yinyang42b <acupet@>

> > > > > Subject: help with meds

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:36 PM

> > > > > 54 year old male with symptoms of

> > > > > brain fog, fatigue, muscle soreness, sensitive to

> > > sound for

> > > > > last 4 years .Started erfa in april and has

> > > slowly worked up

> > > > > to 4 grains. morning temps started at 96.5 and

> > > have risen to

> > > > > 97.4. gets to 98.5 in afternoon at its

> > > peak.Bloods /Saliva

> > > > > as follows:

> > > > >

> > > > > Blood  3/5/10

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhea sulfate 163     25-240

> > > > > pregnenolone  12     13-208

> > > > > cortisol a.m.  19     4-22

> > > > > T3 Free       

> > > > > 314   230-420

> > > > > T4 free     

> > > > >    1.1   .8-1.8

> > > > > tsh         

> > > > >    1.37   .4-4.5

> > > > > tyroid perox ab  <10    <35

> > > > > thyroglob ab     <20 

> > > > >    <20

> > > > > hemoglob A1c      5.5%    <6

> > > > >

> > > > > Blood 5/19/10

> > > > >

> > > > > Iron  138          45-170

> > > > > TIBC 331            250-450

> > > > > % sat  42       

> > > > >    20-50

> > > > > UIBC   193         

> > > > > 110-370

> > > > > Ferritin 37          20-380

> > > > > FT3      372       

> > > > >   230-420

> > > > > Ft4      1.0       

> > > > >   .8-1.8

> > > > > T3 Uptake  32.2   

> > > > >    27.8-40.7

> > > > > tsh      .51       

> > > > >    .4-4.5

> > > > > estradiol  34          13-54

> > > > > testosterone total 403   250-1100

> > > > > testost  free   101.2   

> > > > > 35-155

> > > > > testost.% free   2.51    1.5-2.2

> > > > >

> > > > > Started on gentle iron 2 pills daily.also i have

> > > been on

> > > > > testosterone for 2 years, 120mg injections

> > > weekly.when these

> > > > > were taken i was on 3 grains erfa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Saliva 5/24/10 Diagnostechs

> > > > >

> > > > > Cortisol AM     23    13-24

> > > > >         noon 

> > > > >    7     5-10

> > > > >          PM   

> > > > >   6     3-8

> > > > >         midnight 17    1-4

> > > > >

> > > > > I do suffer from insomnia as well.isophos at

> > > night helps w

> > > > > low dose melatonin.

> > > > >

> > > > > Saliva 6/24/10 ZRT labs

> > > > >

> > > > > Cortisol   am 9.5   3.7-9.5

> > > > >           noon

> > > > > 3.0   1.2-3.0

> > > > >            eve 

> > > > > 1.5   .6-1.9

> > > > >           night  .7 

> > > > >   .4-1.0

> > > > > Blood spot zrt

> > > > >

> > > > > PSA 1.3    <5.4

> > > > > FT4  1.6   .7 - 2.5

> > > > > FT3   4.1   2.5-6.5

> > > > > TSH   <.2    .5-3.0

> > > > > TPO    27   0-150

> > > > >

> > > > > Bloods 6/24/10

> > > > >

> > > > > IGF 1  314   87-238

> > > > > Vit d   52.4   32-100

> > > > > Sex hormone binding 18.3  14.5-48

> > > > > Ferritin   112  30-400

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently taking 4 grains erfa, 15 mg HC, gentle

> > > iron,

> > > > > testosterone 80 mg every 3 days, 250 hcg every 3

> > > days,

> > > > > arimidex 1/4 tab every 3 days.. I feel tired and

> > > spacey all

> > > > > the time. where to go from here? No morning

> > > erections and

> > > > > very  low libido. I feel like there is a

> > > blockage

> > > > > somewhere but i cant figure it out.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

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How do you take your temps read this link.

http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-temperature-graph

To do this right you need a good shake down Temp gage start taking your temps

after your up 3 hrs then every 3 hrs 3x's a day add them up div. by 3 this is

your avg. Print out the chart in the link and chart your temps avg. On 4

grains of Armour my temps avg. in time went up to 98.3.

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Phil

> From: yinyang42b <acupet@...>

> Subject: Re: help with meds

>

> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 3:00 PM

>

> Latest labs:

>

> Testosterone ,total serum   675 280-800

> free testost. direct   

>    19.8  7.2-24

>

> Reverse T3  363  90-350

>

> yikes. im on 4 grains erfa and my temps are still at 97.5

> and pretty stable.stopped the HC.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: yinyang42b <acupet@>

> > > > > > Subject: help with

> meds

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:36

> PM

> > > > > > 54 year old male with symptoms of

> > > > > > brain fog, fatigue, muscle

> soreness, sensitive to

> > > > sound for

> > > > > > last 4 years .Started erfa in

> april and has

> > > > slowly worked up

> > > > > > to 4 grains. morning temps started

> at 96.5 and

> > > > have risen to

> > > > > > 97.4. gets to 98.5 in afternoon at

> its

> > > > peak.Bloods /Saliva

> > > > > > as follows:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blood  3/5/10

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dhea sulfate 163     25-240

> > > > > > pregnenolone  12     13-208

> > > > > > cortisol a.m.  19     4-22

> > > > > > T3 Free       

> > > > > > 314   230-420

> > > > > > T4 free     

> > > > > >    1.1   .8-1.8

> > > > > > tsh         

> > > > > >    1.37   .4-4.5

> > > > > > tyroid perox ab  <10   

> <35

> > > > > > thyroglob ab     <20 

> > > > > >    <20

> > > > > > hemoglob A1c      5.5%   

> <6

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blood 5/19/10

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Iron  138          45-170

> > > > > > TIBC 331            250-450

> > > > > > % sat  42       

> > > > > >    20-50

> > > > > > UIBC   193         

> > > > > > 110-370

> > > > > > Ferritin 37          20-380

> > > > > > FT3      372       

> > > > > >   230-420

> > > > > > Ft4      1.0       

> > > > > >   .8-1.8

> > > > > > T3 Uptake  32.2   

> > > > > >    27.8-40.7

> > > > > > tsh      .51       

> > > > > >    .4-4.5

> > > > > > estradiol  34         

> 13-54

> > > > > > testosterone total

> 403   250-1100

> > > > > > testost  free   101.2   

> > > > > > 35-155

> > > > > > testost.% free   2.51   

> 1.5-2.2

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Started on gentle iron 2 pills

> daily.also i have

> > > > been on

> > > > > > testosterone for 2 years, 120mg

> injections

> > > > weekly.when these

> > > > > > were taken i was on 3 grains

> erfa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saliva 5/24/10 Diagnostechs

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cortisol AM     23    13-24

> > > > > >         noon 

> > > > > >    7     5-10

> > > > > >          PM   

> > > > > >   6     3-8

> > > > > >         midnight 17    1-4

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do suffer from insomnia as

> well.isophos at

> > > > night helps w

> > > > > > low dose melatonin.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saliva 6/24/10 ZRT labs

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cortisol   am 9.5   3.7-9.5

> > > > > >           noon

> > > > > > 3.0   1.2-3.0

> > > > > >            eve 

> > > > > > 1.5   .6-1.9

> > > > > >           night  .7 

> > > > > >   .4-1.0

> > > > > > Blood spot zrt

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PSA 1.3    <5.4

> > > > > > FT4  1.6   .7 - 2.5

> > > > > > FT3   4.1   2.5-6.5

> > > > > > TSH   <.2    .5-3.0

> > > > > > TPO    27   0-150

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bloods 6/24/10

> > > > > >

> > > > > > IGF 1  314   87-238

> > > > > > Vit d   52.4   32-100

> > > > > > Sex hormone binding 18.3 

> 14.5-48

> > > > > > Ferritin   112  30-400

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Currently taking 4 grains erfa, 15

> mg HC, gentle

> > > > iron,

> > > > > > testosterone 80 mg every 3 days,

> 250 hcg every 3

> > > > days,

> > > > > > arimidex 1/4 tab every 3 days.. I

> feel tired and

> > > > spacey all

> > > > > > the time. where to go from here?

> No morning

> > > > erections and

> > > > > > very  low libido. I feel like

> there is a

> > > > blockage

> > > > > > somewhere but i cant figure it

> out.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Your rT3 is too high. Try dropping some Erfa and adding T3 in 5 mcg increments.

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: yinyang42b <acupet@>

> > > > > > Subject: help with meds

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:36 PM

> > > > > > 54 year old male with symptoms of

> > > > > > brain fog, fatigue, muscle soreness, sensitive to

> > > > sound for

> > > > > > last 4 years .Started erfa in april and has

> > > > slowly worked up

> > > > > > to 4 grains. morning temps started at 96.5 and

> > > > have risen to

> > > > > > 97.4. gets to 98.5 in afternoon at its

> > > > peak.Bloods /Saliva

> > > > > > as follows:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blood  3/5/10

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dhea sulfate 163     25-240

> > > > > > pregnenolone  12     13-208

> > > > > > cortisol a.m.  19     4-22

> > > > > > T3 Free       

> > > > > > 314   230-420

> > > > > > T4 free     

> > > > > >    1.1   .8-1.8

> > > > > > tsh         

> > > > > >    1.37   .4-4.5

> > > > > > tyroid perox ab  <10    <35

> > > > > > thyroglob ab     <20 

> > > > > >    <20

> > > > > > hemoglob A1c      5.5%    <6

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blood 5/19/10

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Iron  138          45-170

> > > > > > TIBC 331            250-450

> > > > > > % sat  42       

> > > > > >    20-50

> > > > > > UIBC   193         

> > > > > > 110-370

> > > > > > Ferritin 37          20-380

> > > > > > FT3      372       

> > > > > >   230-420

> > > > > > Ft4      1.0       

> > > > > >   .8-1.8

> > > > > > T3 Uptake  32.2   

> > > > > >    27.8-40.7

> > > > > > tsh      .51       

> > > > > >    .4-4.5

> > > > > > estradiol  34          13-54

> > > > > > testosterone total 403   250-1100

> > > > > > testost  free   101.2   

> > > > > > 35-155

> > > > > > testost.% free   2.51    1.5-2.2

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Started on gentle iron 2 pills daily.also i have

> > > > been on

> > > > > > testosterone for 2 years, 120mg injections

> > > > weekly.when these

> > > > > > were taken i was on 3 grains erfa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saliva 5/24/10 Diagnostechs

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cortisol AM     23    13-24

> > > > > >         noon 

> > > > > >    7     5-10

> > > > > >          PM   

> > > > > >   6     3-8

> > > > > >         midnight 17    1-4

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do suffer from insomnia as well.isophos at

> > > > night helps w

> > > > > > low dose melatonin.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saliva 6/24/10 ZRT labs

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cortisol   am 9.5   3.7-9.5

> > > > > >           noon

> > > > > > 3.0   1.2-3.0

> > > > > >            eve 

> > > > > > 1.5   .6-1.9

> > > > > >           night  .7 

> > > > > >   .4-1.0

> > > > > > Blood spot zrt

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PSA 1.3    <5.4

> > > > > > FT4  1.6   .7 - 2.5

> > > > > > FT3   4.1   2.5-6.5

> > > > > > TSH   <.2    .5-3.0

> > > > > > TPO    27   0-150

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bloods 6/24/10

> > > > > >

> > > > > > IGF 1  314   87-238

> > > > > > Vit d   52.4   32-100

> > > > > > Sex hormone binding 18.3  14.5-48

> > > > > > Ferritin   112  30-400

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Currently taking 4 grains erfa, 15 mg HC, gentle

> > > > iron,

> > > > > > testosterone 80 mg every 3 days, 250 hcg every 3

> > > > days,

> > > > > > arimidex 1/4 tab every 3 days.. I feel tired and

> > > > spacey all

> > > > > > the time. where to go from here? No morning

> > > > erections and

> > > > > > very  low libido. I feel like there is a

> > > > blockage

> > > > > > somewhere but i cant figure it out.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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