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You can use tea tree oil to treat strep. It's not homeopathic, but it does

kill strep. Another suggestion since you say you get strep easily, is that

you can find mouth washes or toothpaste with tea tree oil in them, and if

you use them every day, they'll keep you from getting it again. And the tea

tree oil will also be killing candida at the same time. I've gotten

mouthwash and breath sprays from Melaleuca distributors that I've used to

treat strep with, but I haven't a clue how to find a distributor, because my

sister used to be one, so I never had to look for one. But most health food

stores usually carry things with tea tree oil in them. I used to get strep a

lot when I was a kid. But I've been brushing my teeth for years with

toothpaste that has tea tree oil, and I never get strep any more, even

though I've been exposed to it every year from neighborhood kids, and even

though I have a weak immune system. So the tea tree oil must be doing some

good.

lindaj@...

strep

Welcome back Margaret, I have not seen you around for a while. Glad that

you are still here with us. YOu have always been a great source of

information.

Just got back from the doctor and was diagnosed with Strep throat.

Unfortuntately, I have to take a 7 day treatment of antibiotics. My

children and myself have always gotten strep, and it can become rather

serious. The doctor who was a substitute for the one I regualarly see,

said that it is as commonly caught as a cold.

I was wondering if anyone has any info on strep, what one can do

homeopathically to get rid of it, or what to do to avoid getting it. I

have been in perfect health as of late, just came down the other night

with a horrid sore throat. For me, there is nothing worse than a sore

throat. It brings back nightmares of last year and my mono episode.

Anyhow..

thanx in advance to any one with info.

chestnut

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  • 7 years later...

I had strep constantly as a child. I had the tonsils removed at 10 and that

cleared up the problems. I also came down with the other childhood diseases -

measles, mumps, chickenpox - more than once. Our dr. couldn't believe it. I

was a very sickly little kid. My son had a mysterious episode when he was

about 2. He broke out all over in a strange looking rash (looked like he had

been burned by cigars all over). His little body was so swollen and his kidneys

shut down for a day. We almost lost him then. The dr. sent us to specialist

and an ENT doc finally found strep in his inner ear and it seems he was allergic

to the strep. Has anyone else ever heard of this? And by the way, my son had

to have knee surgery at 17. Arthritis had taken a toll on it. I ask him to

have his sed rate checked every time he goes to the doctor and luckily his

family's primary doc. is very familiar with my illness and my family's history

and he keeps a watch for anything unusual in my

son and the grand babies.

Maybe we should try to start a record of all the strange illnesses we all have

had in our past, including surgeries. We may see a pattern.

Sib

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In a message dated 10/11/07 7:00:40 AM, tcctyclk@... writes:

> He broke out all over in a strange looking rash (looked like he had been

> burned by cigars all over). His little body was so swollen and his kidneys

shut

> down for a day. We almost lost him then. The dr. sent us to specialist and

> an ENT doc finally found strep in his inner ear and it seems he was allergic

> to the strep.

>

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It sounds to me that your child may have had " scarlet fever. " Scarlet fever,

in my understanding, is really an allergy to strep toxins and usually occurs

in children, who are prone to strep infections. I came down with a diagnosed

case of scarlet fever in my 30s, which is quite unusual, so much so that my

doctor contacted the CDC to report the incidence of my disease.

I am very allergic to toxins produced by strep, and infections in general,

and my psoriasis makes the situation worse. I tend to get a bright rash that's

painful to the touch and high fever, making me very sick. I once went to

Emergency at Kaiser, my HMO, and told the nurse that I had a throat infection.

She said it didn't look like strep and refused to give me antibiotics despite

my pleas. The strep test came back negative, but within two days I was so sick

with rash and high fever I could hardly stand. I managed to get an

appointment with my dermatologist who said, when she walked in the room, " You

are

really sick. " I couldn't keep my head up while talking to her and I had

difficulty keeping my eyes open and breathing. I could feel my body shutting

down.

I managed to tell her about the nurse not giving me antibiotics and that I've

had this illness before. She said that she would talk to the nurse. She

said that people who have a history such as mine -- psoriasis, scarlet fever,

pustular psoriasis, fever and rash with infections -- should be given an

antibiotic regardless of whether or not strep is suspected. My doctor was head

of

dermatology, a Harvard Medical School grad and she knew her stuff. Some 24

hours after taking the antibiotic, I was well on my way toward recovery, though

the rash burned my skin off.

I now have a note in my chart that I need antibiotics with any infection, an

unopened bottle of antibiotics in my closet, and an undated prescription for

antibiotics that I can use at any time I begin to get an infection. I hope

this covers all bases.

-- BeingIrish

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" HERE, I have endured " Monocytosis " aka " Glandular fever " ,

aka " Kissing Disease " for SEVEN years! I have not check out the

Guinness Book of Records, but perhaps I should apply? "

I believe you may have confused monocytosis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monocytosis

with mononucleosis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectious_mononucleosis

The precusrsor disease to mononucleosis is the Epstein-Barr virus

which is discussed here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epstein-Barr_virus

I personally had Group A Streptococcal which wore me out and led to

Epstein_Barr which in turn led to Mononucleosis. I consider the

strep infection to most likely be the precursor disease that led to

my PA/AS. There is research that supports the theory that strep is

one of the precursor diseases that lead HLA-B27 types to getting PA.

Mono/Epstein-Barr have been linked to many diseases, including auto-

immune disease.

Hope this helps,

Brent

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Hi all,

My son tested positive with strep today and I got a script for antibiotics but I

don't want to use them. He's not running a fever and the doctor said that his

throat was just a little red. His stimming and OCD is at it's worst and so I

assuming it's Pandas. My question is should I start OLE or give the antibiotics.

I don't know much about Pandas, so any feedback would be appreciated. Also if I

give him OLE, how much and how often? He weighs 40lbs and he is 5yo. Thanks,

Janet

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Ok thanks for that Bee.

I havnt had strep throat in the past (from my understanding). Ive had some bad

sore throats that were treated with anti-biotic's but I can't remember the

doctor ever saying 'strep throat'. This was quite a while ago and I was probably

too young to care... I just wanted the anti-biotic's = cure.

Im having trouble finding White Willow Bark in my area. If I order them over the

internet it could take 3-4 days to get here due to the weekend.

I have a herbal supplement here with 500mg Quercetin, 400mg Rutin, 125mg

Bromelains, 50mg ascorbic acid. Could this act as an anti-inflammatory to

assist the healing of my strep throat in the meantime?

Thanks again...

Rick

>

> >

> > Hey everyone. I suffering from a really bad case up strep. My glands are

swelled up like never before and the pain of swallowing is excruciating. I

really dont want to take antibiotics.

> >

> > Any advice?

> >

> > Im a bit worried as I hear not getting instant treatment for strep can lead

to other serious issues.

> >

> > Hope to hear from you soon.

> >

> +++Hi Rick,

>

> Have you ever had strep throat before in your life, i.e. before starting on

this program? If you have your body will retrace it while it is healing itself

as explained in this article:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

>

> It will retrace each and every separate episode you had before.

>

> It is totally false that not getting instant treatment for it leads to other

serious issues. Your own body creates strep in order to clean out toxins and if

left alone Nature does the best job of healing without treatments, since Nature

is doing its job!

>

> Of course taking antibiotics only adds to the problem, rather than helping it,

because they suppress the symptoms and add more poisons to your body that it has

to deal get rid of.

>

> If you haven't had similar symptoms before starting on this program and this

is new for you, remember that your body is creating it for very good reasons.

>

> In any case, you can do treatments to lessen the pain and help your body heal

itself - see Cold, Cough & Flu Treatments article:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/colds.php

>

> Also do things that improve your body's ability to detoxify itself:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/detox.php

>

> For pain take white willow bark capsules available at the health store and

take them according to instructions on the label.

>

> I hope that helps.

> Bee

>

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> Ok thanks for that Bee.

>

> I havnt had strep throat in the past (from my understanding). Ive had some bad

sore throats that were treated with anti-biotic's but I can't remember the

doctor ever saying 'strep throat'. This was quite a while ago and I was probably

too young to care... I just wanted the anti-biotic's = cure.

+++Hi Rick. You assumed you have strep throat when it may be a sore throat like

you've had before. As I wrote before, your body will retrace each and every

past sore throat whether it was strep or not as explained in this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

>>>Im having trouble finding White Willow Bark in my area. If I order them over

the internet it could take 3-4 days to get here due to the weekend.

+++If the pain is severe you can take a little tylenol since your body will

detoxify it okay on this program, but if possible try to avoid it.

>

> I have a herbal supplement here with 500mg Quercetin, 400mg Rutin, 125mg

Bromelains, 50mg ascorbic acid. Could this act as an anti-inflammatory to

assist the healing of my strep throat in the meantime?

+++Quercetin and Rutin are not helpful but they are often in supplements that

contain ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Bromelain is a digestive enzyme which is a

waste of money.

+++However, you should have a separate vitamin C since you should be taking

4,000 IU per day on this program.

+++Did you read the Cold, Cough & Flu Article, since it advises taking megadoses

of vitamin C in addition to your normal dose of 4,000 IU per day?

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/colds.php

+++You should also do the other treatments in that Cold article, particularly

getting enough moisture in the air.

All the best, Be4e

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> You could try Vitamin C protocol Bee has written about on the group to help

toxins come out through your stool.

+++Hi ,

I want to ensure you understand that vitamin C does not help toxins go out

through your stools. However, you can get loose stools by taking vitamin C

above the amount your body can absorb and utilize, called the saturation level.

Anytime you take more than that saturation level you get loose stools because

your body throws off any vitamin C it cannot absorb and utilize.

You can increase saturation levels by slowly increasing amounts of vitamin C.

Luv & Hugs, Bee

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Bee,

In the past I have never had those white patches before on my throat when I have

had a 'sore throat'. With a little bit of research it seems that they are high

indicative of Strep. I could be wrong! But my throat has never been this bad

before. Its good long term...some serious detoxing is going on. In the short

term its very unpleasant.

As per your cold/cough/flu treatment page I am digesting an all liquid diet...

not by choice though. My throat is so swollen that is most tolerable way for me

to digest nutrients. Ive even stopped talking as that causes pain and feels

uncomfortable too (and sounds weird ;o)

With the increase of Vit C you say take 4000mg in one go, then 1000mg every hour

after that. Then " When you get loose stools take a little less every hour, i.e.

200 mg, and so on. " Do you mean the next hour take 1000mg MINUS 200mg (so that

would be a dose of 800mg)? Or do you mean just take 200mg?

Oh, Ive also lowered my CO intake to lessen any intensity of the symptoms and

help my body restore some resting energy. Good or bad?

Thanks again mate. Ive got the next 7 days off from work. One day at a time.

Rick

> >

> > Ok thanks for that Bee.

> >

> > I havnt had strep throat in the past (from my understanding). Ive had some

bad sore throats that were treated with anti-biotic's but I can't remember the

doctor ever saying 'strep throat'. This was quite a while ago and I was probably

too young to care... I just wanted the anti-biotic's = cure.

>

> +++Hi Rick. You assumed you have strep throat when it may be a sore throat

like you've had before. As I wrote before, your body will retrace each and

every past sore throat whether it was strep or not as explained in this article:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

>

> >>>Im having trouble finding White Willow Bark in my area. If I order them

over the internet it could take 3-4 days to get here due to the weekend.

>

> +++If the pain is severe you can take a little tylenol since your body will

detoxify it okay on this program, but if possible try to avoid it.

> >

> > I have a herbal supplement here with 500mg Quercetin, 400mg Rutin, 125mg

Bromelains, 50mg ascorbic acid. Could this act as an anti-inflammatory to

assist the healing of my strep throat in the meantime?

>

> +++Quercetin and Rutin are not helpful but they are often in supplements that

contain ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Bromelain is a digestive enzyme which is a

waste of money.

>

> +++However, you should have a separate vitamin C since you should be taking

4,000 IU per day on this program.

>

> +++Did you read the Cold, Cough & Flu Article, since it advises taking

megadoses of vitamin C in addition to your normal dose of 4,000 IU per day?

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/colds.php

>

> +++You should also do the other treatments in that Cold article, particularly

getting enough moisture in the air.

>

> All the best, Be4e

>

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Hello,

Bee means to take 1000mg minus 200 mg for 800mg dose and so on. Every hour,

reduce by 200 mg.

I typically create a document with the time frames/doses and mark them off as I

go so I don't miss a dose.

[ ] Re: Strep

Bee,

In the past I have never had those white patches before on my throat when I

have had a 'sore throat'. With a little bit of research it seems that they are

high indicative of Strep. I could be wrong! But my throat has never been this

bad before. Its good long term...some serious detoxing is going on. In the short

term its very unpleasant.

As per your cold/cough/flu treatment page I am digesting an all liquid diet...

not by choice though. My throat is so swollen that is most tolerable way for me

to digest nutrients. Ive even stopped talking as that causes pain and feels

uncomfortable too (and sounds weird ;o)

With the increase of Vit C you say take 4000mg in one go, then 1000mg every

hour after that. Then " When you get loose stools take a little less every hour,

i.e. 200 mg, and so on. " Do you mean the next hour take 1000mg MINUS 200mg (so

that would be a dose of 800mg)? Or do you mean just take 200mg?

Oh, Ive also lowered my CO intake to lessen any intensity of the symptoms and

help my body restore some resting energy. Good or bad?

Thanks again mate. Ive got the next 7 days off from work. One day at a time.

Rick

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> Bee,

>

> In the past I have never had those white patches before on my throat when I

have had a 'sore throat'. With a little bit of research it seems that they are

high indicative of Strep. I could be wrong! But my throat has never been this

bad before. Its good long term...some serious detoxing is going on. In the short

term its very unpleasant.

>

> As per your cold/cough/flu treatment page I am digesting an all liquid diet...

not by choice though. My throat is so swollen that is most tolerable way for me

to digest nutrients. Ive even stopped talking as that causes pain and feels

uncomfortable too (and sounds weird ;o)

>

> With the increase of Vit C you say take 4000mg in one go, then 1000mg every

hour after that. Then " When you get loose stools take a little less every hour,

i.e. 200 mg, and so on. " Do you mean the next hour take 1000mg MINUS 200mg (so

that would be a dose of 800mg)? Or do you mean just take 200mg?

>

> Oh, Ive also lowered my CO intake to lessen any intensity of the symptoms and

help my body restore some resting energy. Good or bad?

>

> Thanks again mate. Ive got the next 7 days off from work. One day at a time.

+++Hi Rick,

Your body has created inflammation and infection in your throat in order to

clear out toxins, which are natural healing processes, as this article explains:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/nature3.php

Also read Nature Needs No Remedy:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal16.php

You might also get some comfort that you are doing the right thing by reading

Don't Fight the Healing Process:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal3.php

That's good you are on an all liquid diet, which is not only easier to swallow

but also uses up less energy and resources to digest it. Bee's Egg Drink would

be very good to have too:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/recipe167.php

Re: Vitamin C - Yes, you take 200 mg less every hour after you get loose stools,

i.e. 1,000 minus 200 = 800 mg per hour.

It is okay to lower your coconut oil for awhile.

I hope you feel better soon. Keep me posted, eh?

The best to you, Bee

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Ok Bee... I will trust the healing process...no matter how much pain I feel.

One quick question. Must I eat the recommended grams of protein and fat via raw

eggs and other liquid sources even when I dont feel like eating?

Thanks for all your help.

Rick

Ill keep you posted.

> >

> > Bee,

> >

> > In the past I have never had those white patches before on my throat when I

have had a 'sore throat'. With a little bit of research it seems that they are

high indicative of Strep. I could be wrong! But my throat has never been this

bad before. Its good long term...some serious detoxing is going on. In the short

term its very unpleasant.

> >

> > As per your cold/cough/flu treatment page I am digesting an all liquid

diet... not by choice though. My throat is so swollen that is most tolerable way

for me to digest nutrients. Ive even stopped talking as that causes pain and

feels uncomfortable too (and sounds weird ;o)

> >

> > With the increase of Vit C you say take 4000mg in one go, then 1000mg every

hour after that. Then " When you get loose stools take a little less every hour,

i.e. 200 mg, and so on. " Do you mean the next hour take 1000mg MINUS 200mg (so

that would be a dose of 800mg)? Or do you mean just take 200mg?

> >

> > Oh, Ive also lowered my CO intake to lessen any intensity of the symptoms

and help my body restore some resting energy. Good or bad?

> >

> > Thanks again mate. Ive got the next 7 days off from work. One day at a time.

>

> +++Hi Rick,

>

> Your body has created inflammation and infection in your throat in order to

clear out toxins, which are natural healing processes, as this article explains:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/nature3.php

>

> Also read Nature Needs No Remedy:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal16.php

>

> You might also get some comfort that you are doing the right thing by reading

Don't Fight the Healing Process:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal3.php

>

> That's good you are on an all liquid diet, which is not only easier to swallow

but also uses up less energy and resources to digest it. Bee's Egg Drink would

be very good to have too:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/recipe167.php

>

> Re: Vitamin C - Yes, you take 200 mg less every hour after you get loose

stools, i.e. 1,000 minus 200 = 800 mg per hour.

>

> It is okay to lower your coconut oil for awhile.

>

> I hope you feel better soon. Keep me posted, eh?

>

> The best to you, Bee

>

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> Ok Bee... I will trust the healing process...no matter how much pain I feel.

>

> One quick question. Must I eat the recommended grams of protein and fat via

raw eggs and other liquid sources even when I dont feel like eating?

+++Hi Rick,

It is important that you eat enough and get good nutrients so your body is able

to heal itself, although you don't have to be strict about your ratios. If you

don't consume enough protein your body will start robbing your muscles for it.

You should also take all of your supplements and ensure you get 1.5 teaspoons of

ocean sea salt per day for the minerals.

You can make Bee's Egg Drink with egg yolks, less coconut oil and butter, and

hot water only (no spices or stevia) since your taste buds won't be very keen

anyway.

All the best, Bee

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