Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 At 10:58 PM 05/05/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >Do you know of any parent in the U.S. who's ever been told by a health care worker that if she doesn't have a child vaccinated she'll be reported for child neglect? > >Do you know of any parent in the U.S. who's ever actually been investigated by child protective services for possible child neglect because she hadn't immunized the child? > >If you have an actual example, please contact me right away. For a story in Forbes magazine, I need to hear from you before 5 pm on Monday May 7, 2001. Your name will not be used. bmcmenamin@... > > > >--- Can't verify this person or story, just passing it on. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA moderator Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-478-1242 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters ---------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.251 / Virus Database: 124 - Release Date: 04/26/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 Hi fellow listmates, I'm really sorry. This is totally off-topic but I can't help myself. I received this email from a friend of mine whose very good friend's father works for the FEMA (Federal Emergency Managment Agency). http://www.governmentguide.com/govsite.adp?bread=*Main* & url=http%3A//www.fema.go\ v/ Joyce DEAR FRIENDS, I hate to try and scare you with e-mails , but I received this today and i wanted to share it will all of you. Please take caution of your surroundings. Mike PS I have attached something else that is touching. Subject: A message from an employee at FEMA This is not a joke. I received it from someone who has a relative at FEMA. sorry for the mass email, but I got important news tonight. My dad works for FEMA and he's really involved with the goings on in NYC. He told me that within the last 24 hours, more than 30 Ryder, U-Haul, and Verizon trucks have been reported stolen across the country. The U-Haul and Ryder trucks were rented and then never returned, so they're considered stolen. Many of them were rented by people of Arab descent. I don't mean to make any assumptions, and I certainly don't want to scare you, but I thought you all might like to know. Be wary of these vehicles, pay attention to them, and don't walk or park near them. He said to stay out of major public places if at all possible because recreational sites would most likely be hit on weekends. I'm sorry to cause alarm, but he told me it was ok to share this information. If you'd like to foward it to anyone you know, feel free, as there is a possibility it might save lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Hi Tia You could ask your endo for a " trial " of Thyroxine, this could show him your need for treatment if you respond well to it. I would wait for the results of your further tests. Alot of us here have to self prescribe but that is always a last resort. You will find alot of information on this site look in the files on the left hand side. Ali X > > For the past 5 years I have had to live with terrible pain: neck, shoulders, back, lower back, hands and feet that swell and many more. > I have also lots of headaches, vision trouble (floaters everywhere, and i really mean everywhere; pain behind my eyes that are either sharp or like an headache; shooting stars) > My hair on my head is falling and very dry and brittle; also it gets really coarse and grows damaged from the roots. > My pubic hair is falling too and even more coarse than the hair on my head. > The hair near my neck is wavy even though I had always had very straight hair (i do like wavy hair though so i do not mind this strange symptom) > I am always so tired. > My memory is soo poor and so is my concentration. > I cannot deal with stress anymore and cannot stand noise or light. > The pins and needles, especially on my fingers, are really bothering me. > There are more symptoms like constipation, tummy hurts after meals,... > > My TSH cameback 2.55 (0.40 - 5.00) > My free T4 is 15.6 (11 - 23) > > My doctor said I'm fine. > I went to see an endocrinologist at The London Clinic for Endocrinology and the Professor said my test was fine. > I was never screened for free T3 > The Professor is still going to check for: Auto antibodies, ACTH, Calcium, Cortisol. > I am still awaiting the blood result. > He wants me to see a psychiatrist because when I went to see him he said I was stressed. > Of course I am stressed but that is because I feel stuck in a body that will not let me do what I wish to do. > I feel that i am not suffering from depression since I look forward to a great future (I am a student in Political Geography) but I am scared that if I do not get well I will not be able to follow my dreams. > > Could you please let me know of any good endocrinologist in London that would agree to treat me, one that prescribes Armour or any other natural hormone replacement. > Of course I understand that I need to wait for the rest of my results but my endocrinologist is so adamant that my symptoms are caused by stress that I am afraid he will not treat no matter what my results are. > I am 34 years old and have an 11 years old boy who wants me to play with him, go to the park... but I am already struggling to keep up with my studies and cannot do anything else. > You might think that I feel the way I do because studying is really hard but I have been studying for the 2 years and felt like this for the past 5 years. > PLEASE HELP ME FIND SOMEONE WHO WILL LISTEN TO MY SYMPTOMS BECAUSE I AM A HUMAN BEING NOT A LAB VALUE. > > Kind regards, > Tia > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1389 - Release Date: 21/04/2008 08:34 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Dear Tia Just wanted to say welcome and to tell you you are in goods hand now you have joined this great group. The good thing is that this guy is going to have all these test done, some will not even consider them and are in fact dismissive of them. Its also very good that they are doing an ACTH test too to check on your adrenal function, and also your cortisol levels. How insulting to ask you to see a psychiatrist, at lot of the members here have had similar. When I broke down once in front of my endo, I said before you even think it, I wish you to know that I am NOT depressed in the true sense of the word, I am in fact disenchanted and disillusioned about not being treated properly and these are tears of frustration. I too have very similar TSH and T4 to you but tests proved I have autoantibodies thus Hashimoto's Disease or auto-immune thyroiditis. Best wishes Pat > > I am passing your message on to the Forum Tia - so other members can read it and offer their thoughts. I will respond later, but meanwhile, welcome to our forum and I know you will get lots of help and support here - and I can also tell you that yes, there is light at the end of the tunnel. > > luv - Sheila > > URGENT > > > Dear Sheila, > > I am writing this e-mail because I really hope you can help. > > For the past 5 years I have had to live with terrible pain: neck, shoulders, back, lower back, hands and feet that swell and many more. > I have also lots of headaches, vision trouble (floaters everywhere, and i really mean everywhere; pain behind my eyes that are either sharp or like an headache; shooting stars) > My hair on my head is falling and very dry and brittle; also it gets really coarse and grows damaged from the roots. > My pubic hair is falling too and even more coarse than the hair on my head. > The hair near my neck is wavy even though I had always had very straight hair (i do like wavy hair though so i do not mind this strange symptom) > I am always so tired. > My memory is soo poor and so is my concentration. > I cannot deal with stress anymore and cannot stand noise or light. > The pins and needles, especially on my fingers, are really bothering me. > There are more symptoms like constipation, tummy hurts after meals,... > > My TSH cameback 2.55 (0.40 - 5.00) > My free T4 is 15.6 (11 - 23) > > My doctor said I'm fine. > I went to see an endocrinologist at The London Clinic for Endocrinology and the Professor said my test was fine. > I was never screened for free T3 > The Professor is still going to check for: Auto antibodies, ACTH, Calcium, Cortisol. > I am still awaiting the blood result. > He wants me to see a psychiatrist because when I went to see him he said I was stressed. > Of course I am stressed but that is because I feel stuck in a body that will not let me do what I wish to do. > I feel that i am not suffering from depression since I look forward to a great future (I am a student in Political Geography) but I am scared that if I do not get well I will not be able to follow my dreams. > > Could you please let me know of any good endocrinologist in London that would agree to treat me, one that prescribes Armour or any other natural hormone replacement. > Of course I understand that I need to wait for the rest of my results but my endocrinologist is so adamant that my symptoms are caused by stress that I am afraid he will not treat no matter what my results are. > I am 34 years old and have an 11 years old boy who wants me to play with him, go to the park... but I am already struggling to keep up with my studies and cannot do anything else. > You might think that I feel the way I do because studying is really hard but I have been studying for the 2 years and felt like this for the past 5 years. > PLEASE HELP ME FIND SOMEONE WHO WILL LISTEN TO MY SYMPTOMS BECAUSE I AM A HUMAN BEING NOT A LAB VALUE. > > Kind regards, > Tia > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1389 - Release Date: 21/04/2008 08:34 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Dear Tia, I think you are feeling the way you are because things are going wrong inside your body. If your endo isn't listening to you, I hope that others will be able to help guide you to someone who can help you and will actually listen to you. I joined this forum a number of weeks ago and the support I have received has been wonderful. Nearly everyone here is having problems with their thyroid function. So please ask questions and be assured that people will try and help. Many of your symptoms sound familiar to me as I suffer from a number of them myself. I especially relate to you saying that your memory and concentration are poor - me too! Could you ask your doc to screen for T3. The reason I mention it is because my T3 levels have dropped over time and they are a concern because they keep dropping and my Reverse T3 level is above the normal reference range. If the doc looked just at my TSH and Free T4, they would have never known exactly what was going on inside. I would be firm with the doctor about the psychiatrist - if you don't feel like you need to go, don't go. I had a friend who told me that perhaps I should consider anti-depressants. That response just showed me that she really didn't understand what was happening inside my body. I'm not depressed. I just have very low energy most of the time. I'm not in bed sleeping a lot because I feel depressed. I'm there because I'm REALLY, REALLY exhausted most of the time (mind you, I had a great couple of days with good energy a couple of days ago, but that is sort of going by the wayside now). Just a thought, but my doc is now checking FSH, testosterone, E1, E2, E3 (oestrogen related things) and progesterone. I've also had my plasma zinc, selenium, 25-hydroxy-Vitamin D and copper levels done in the past. Perhaps you might want to think about getting those things checked too. I've also had millions of others tests, but too many to mention right now. Apologies for shocking grammar but I over did it today and now brain feels a little scrambled. Always happens if I over exert myself. Sound familiar? P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Hi hon I am sorry you are feeling so bad, I know those symptoms well most of them, I know the depression well too and I have been on anti depressants now for years because I had no idea that there was any other choice;now I would have a terrible time coming off them. Bit of advice, if you do go on any medication for depression don't go on the newer types that are REALLY horrible to get off like the SSRi s. The doc told me they weren't addicitive WOW the internet is full of people stuck on these things. So if you accept any google them first and see how many people are stuck on them with horrendous withdrawal symptoms. If you feel it is just because you are ill then you can emphasise that the best way to get rid of the depression is to get rid of the root cause which SOUNDS very like hypo symptoms to me and I am sure most of the other suffers on this board who will be familiar with them. Don't forget if you are not satisfied with treatments or diagnosis you can always ask for a second opinion, and a third etc. Keep going and God bless lotsa luv Dawnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Tia, You are in the right place.... I only joined this group a short time ago but the support and advice has been fantastic. For the first time in years I really can see the light at the end of a very long tunnel and I feel as though I am starting to get my body back. I know there's no easy fix, but you will get there and you will get your life back because now you have the support of lots of other people who've been there too. Good luck Pen x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008  Hi Tia - welcome to the group. My heart goes out to you - seriously. I had many of the symptoms that you have - my main worry was the memory and concentration loss and the tiredness, but I also had the pains, hair loss, puffy face, weight gain etc etc!! I think one of the reasons why people whose TSH is 'normal' are not treated is because the majority of people are diagnosed before they get symptoms, or at least not the aches and pains and memory loss! My TSH was 2.5 and my GP told me I was depressed, referred me to a rheumatologist and a gynaecologist and gave me antidepressants and the option of a counsellor (No!!). Eventually I was told I had fibromyalgia by the rheumatologist and this gave me something to search for - I realised that the aches and pains (fibromyalgia) were symptoms of hypothyroidism and so were all my other symptoms! I found this group thank heaven! What I did was get my bloods done privately through NPtech (in the files), find out an endo who would likely treat me even though my TSH was 'normal' - because I had symptoms (found the endo through this group and Sheila can help you with this). I was started on levothyroxine at my first visit because of my blood tests - even though my GP had put her head on one side when i asked for the referrall and said but they're still normal. (Grrrr!! as Sheila would say!). Im much improved but not fully and the endo thinks my bloods are fine - which on the face of it they are, but I still have the aches and pains, so Ive ordered Armour. I feel that I have given the NHS over a year to get it right and it hasnt so Im treating myself. This is not ideal and its much better if you can get a diagnosis of hypothyroidism even if the treatment they offer doesnt work - it has worked for me until now, when I still demand further improvement which the NHS endo isnt going to give me. You will get better, you really will - all your symptoms are so blatantly hypothyroid (although some conditions apparently can cause the same such as adrenal problems, candida etc) I place my bet that you are hypothyroid! The book that someone has posted a link to (the Dr Toft BMA book) may be helpful. Also, you must remember that the TSH test is not 100% accurate but only 95% - most GPs and many endos do not act as though this is the case though! But it might help to suggest to the GP/endo that you might be one of the 5% for whom the TSH test doesnt work and that the NHS guidance actually says that the TSH test should be considered alongside symptoms - the TSH test might also say this, not sure! Stick around Kid - you will get loads of help and advice from this group and you will get help one way or another!! Gill x I am writing this e-mail because I really hope you can help. For the past 5 years I have had to live with terrible pain: neck, shoulders, back, lower back, hands and feet that swell and many more. I have also lots of headaches, vision trouble (floaters everywhere, and i really mean everywhere; pain behind my eyes that are either sharp or like an headache; shooting stars) My hair on my head is falling and very dry and brittle; also it gets really coarse and grows damaged from the roots. My pubic hair is falling too and even more coarse than the hair on my head. .. Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1192 - Release Date: 21/12/07 13:17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 ROYAL SALLUTTEFrom: pawan rahuja <pawanrahuja@...>Subject: FW: URGENT"Ali Kirmani" <sakirmani@...>, "amit nagarkar" <amitnagarkar2004@...>, "count draculla" <countdraculla@...>, "draculla count" <dracullacount@...>, "khillu kherajani" <jagdishkher@...>, mlalchand711@..., "neeraj srivastav" <neerajlko@...>, "neha rahuja" <neharahuja06@...>, pawan.rahuja@..., pawanrahuja@..., "pawan rahuja" <pawanrahuja@...>, , pawanrahuja@..., radheyshyam_3131@..., rajaelectronics@..., "Rajnaryani@..." <rajnaryani@...>, "ravi dixit" <dixitravi@...>, sanjivnaryani@..., "sanjiv naryani" <sanjivnaryani@...>, "sonu" <deepak_hot24@...>, sripatitrivedi@...Date: Wednesday, 18 March, 2009, 6:45 AM Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:49:57 +0530Subject: Fwd: URGENTFrom: rajnaryani@...To: Rajnaryani@... Dear All, Please  Be  Extremely Careful  especially  if using internet mail such as ,  Hotmail, AOL and so on.  This  information arrived this morning direct from both Microsoft  and Norton.  Please  send it to everybody you know who has access to the  Internet.  You may  receive an apparently harmless email with a Power Point  presentation  -  'Life  is beautiful.'  If you  receive it DO NOT OPEN THE FILE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES ,  and delete  it immediately . If  you open this file, a message will appear on your screen  saying: 'It is too late now, your life is no longer  beautiful.'  Subsequently  you will LOSE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC and the person who sent it  to you will gain access to your name, e-mail and  password.  This is  a new virus which started to circulate on Saturday  afternoon.  AOL  has already confirmed the severity, and the antivirus  software's are not capable of destroying it.  The  virus has been created by a hacker  who calls himself 'life owner.'  PLEASE  SEND A COPY OF THIS EMAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS and ask them to  PASS IT ON IMMEDIATELY -- -- Tks & Brgds / Rajiv Windows Live Messenger. Multitasking at its finest. Get an email ID as yourname@... or yourname@.... Click here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I found this It gets excreted by your kidneys since they are very effective in eliminating excess magnesium from your blood, however, patients with renal failure or impaired kidney function can suffer from an overdose of magnesium, where its symptoms include: * Weakness * Nausea & Vomiting * Hypotension, which later on can lead to shock * Irregular breathing * Arrhythmia & Asystole, since it causes conduction delays in the heart, being a calcium channel blocker Higher concentrations of magnesium in the blood can eventually lead to a complete heart block and later on a cardiac arrest. Good luck. I am not sure . The UL is listed as 300mg. 3 tsp of calm = 615 mg (based on diarheaa) If you had a quarter cup. 12 teaspoons in a quarter cup means 12 x 615 = 7380mg of magnesium. More here http://www.crnusa.org/safetypdfs/018CRNSafetyMagnesium.pdf GL From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of diamond12345@... Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: [ ] Urgent I took too much natural calm (magnesiu citrate) like 1/4 cup of the powder. It called to start with 1tsp. The pharmacy said to call poison control. Do you think its necessary, since they charge for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I just called my Mom because she is a big fan of Natural Calm. She will literally boil water, then pour the powder in the cup of hot water, no measuring!!!! Not saying this is so not right; she does this as a laxative. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I made a mistake. They charge for pets. LOL On Aug 30, 2009, at 7:50 PM, threekidsandapig wrote: > Not sure if you mean they charge for calling poison control. We > call several times a year. The number is 1-800-222-1222 (US). The > only info they ask for is your name and I think your zip code. > > > > > > I took too much natural calm (magnesiu citrate) like 1/4 cup of > the powder. It called to start with 1tsp. The pharmacy said to call > poison control. Do you think its necessary, since they charge for > this? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Not sure if you mean they charge for calling poison control. We call several times a year. The number is 1-800-222-1222 (US). The only info they ask for is your name and I think your zip code. > > I took too much natural calm (magnesiu citrate) like 1/4 cup of the powder. It called to start with 1tsp. The pharmacy said to call poison control. Do you think its necessary, since they charge for this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 she also has bad diarrea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Thanks for the notification, . I've set her account to Moderated in the meantime and deleted the post from the web. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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