Breastfeeding question

[Guest guest]

I agree with many of the suggestions. I strongly suggest tracking your diet

to eliminate foods that may be triggering this & then eliminate them for 4

days - 2 weeks (dairy -2 weeks at least). Then put them back in (lots of

milk & cheese if you worry it is dairy, for instance) & see if there is a

reaction. Keep records of the baby's behavior & your diet. Read labels.

For example, whey & casein are dairy proteins & are found in many baked

goods & soy products.

My first child had a dairy allergy with different symptoms than what you are

descibing. Then my second child had the same symptoms as you are

describing. It was citrus. I couldn't have anything with citrus for the

first four mos. BUT now (10 mos) she sucks on lemons! The point is that

you may not have to give up the foods forever.

My main suggestion, however, is to contact your local La Leche League Leader

volunteer. I don't know where you live but Leaders are experienced

breastfeeding mothers, accredited by La Leche League with many resources at

their disposal. La Leche League is the world's authority on breastfeeding.

If you don't have a good rapport with the Leader you first speak with, I

would encourage you to contact another.

[Guest guest]

Please call La Leche League. Dr's are not educated enough on

breastfeeding and LLL can provide you with much more info and

support. Most Dr's will even admit this. Call 1-800-laleche and

they can refer you to local person/group. If you are at all serious

about breastfeeding you'll give this a try.

El

MOM to Nora, Quinn & Duncan

" Man must cease attributing his problems to his environment, and

learn again to exercise his will - his personal responsibility in the

realm of faith and morals. "

-Albert Schweitzer

> I agree with many of the suggestions. I strongly suggest tracking

your diet

> to eliminate foods that may be triggering this & then eliminate

them for 4

> days - 2 weeks (dairy -2 weeks at least). Then put them back in

(lots of

> milk & cheese if you worry it is dairy, for instance) & see if

there is a

> reaction. Keep records of the baby's behavior & your diet. Read

labels.

> For example, whey & casein are dairy proteins & are found in many

baked

> goods & soy products.

>

> My first child had a dairy allergy with different symptoms than

what you are

> descibing. Then my second child had the same symptoms as you are

> describing. It was citrus. I couldn't have anything with citrus

for the

> first four mos. BUT now (10 mos) she sucks on lemons! The point

is that

> you may not have to give up the foods forever.

>

> My main suggestion, however, is to contact your local La Leche

League Leader

> volunteer. I don't know where you live but Leaders are experienced

> breastfeeding mothers, accredited by La Leche League with many

resources at

> their disposal. La Leche League is the world's authority on

breastfeeding.

> If you don't have a good rapport with the Leader you first speak

with, I

> would encourage you to contact another.

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't worry Amy, if she is wetting plenty of nappies and is

healthy and happy - then you should be too!! I never

expressed/pumped milk at all with my 3 - thankfully I never had to,

so I can't help you in that regard...do you need to do it?

Your breastmilk should adjust itself to her needs (ie when she is

thirsty it is the thinner foremilk and when she is hungry it is the

richer hindmilk - don't ask me how this works I just know it does!)

If it is exceptionally hot weather and you are concerned that she is

not drinking enough milk then maybe you could give her some

boiled/filtered water in a sippy cup. I never gave my kids juice or

any other milk until they were well over 12 mths old, just the

breast and water.

Hope this helps, although it sounds like you are doing fine on your

own!!

Regards Deb

>

> I have a question. My baby is 8 months old, fully breastfed, and

I am

> almost 3 months pregnant. Until she was 6 months old I pumped a

lot and gave

> bottles as well as nursed her- she actually began to prefer

bottles and started

> to reject the breast which broke my heart. My lactation

consultant

> recommended I stop giving bottles, which I did and now she nurses

full time and I do

> not pump anymore- we have been doing this for at least two months

now. I have

> enjoyed a wonderful nursing experience for the last few months

and still am!

> She started solids at 7 months but of course still nurses every 4

hours or

> so ( she gets up twice at night to nurse). I did try to pump

today for the

> first time in months and MAYBE got one ounce all together. Is

that normal?

> When I was pumping all the time a few months back I could easily

get 8 -12

> ounces when I pumped. I am sure by my over pumping I was over

producing milk

> then- I have probably about 100 frozen bags of milk. I also

think that may

> have been why she was rejecting the breast- it was coming out too

hard/fast and

> choking her- there was always wet spots on the bed after she

nursed at

> night. Also back then my breast would get engorged after a few

hours and I would

> HAVE to nurse or pump. NOw they dont really get that way

anymore. Just want

> to be sure my baby is getting enough liquid....she doesn't get

any liquid

> except when she nurses (except water in her oatmeal), and wanted

to be sure

> that my milk is not drying up. HOw will I know if my milk stops

coming in? I

> have breast implants (I know, dumb thing I did in college)and

have never been

> able to feel the " let down " everyone speaks of....I didn't even

know when my

> milk came in....so I am afraid I wont know if it stops. She is

wetting

> plenty of diapers and is a chubby healthy girl.

> Thanks guys

> AMy

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy, I have 2 boys and I breastfeed both. Micahis now 2 1/2 and

Ian is almost 9 months. I never felt the letdown people talk of nor

was I ever engorged with either of them. Micah was always very

slight and I was always worried that he was not getting enough milk.

He is fine my worries were for not:) As far as liquids go Ian only

nurses 4 good times a day and maybe one more that is snack like. He

will not even try to use a sippy cup of water so nursing is all he

gets. Your milk will change during pregnancy but your little one

should be ok with it. As long as the baby is healthy and growing no

need to change what your doing!! You are going to have your hands

full with two so close:) Lots of fun!! Take care,

WORK AT HOME! I DO!

skf2230@...

509 542-0850

>

> I have a question. My baby is 8 months old, fully breastfed, and

I am

> almost 3 months pregnant. Until she was 6 months old I pumped a

lot and gave

> bottles as well as nursed her- she actually began to prefer

bottles and started

> to reject the breast which broke my heart. My lactation

consultant

> recommended I stop giving bottles, which I did and now she nurses

full time and I do

> not pump anymore- we have been doing this for at least two months

now. I have

> enjoyed a wonderful nursing experience for the last few months and

still am!

> She started solids at 7 months but of course still nurses every 4

hours or

> so ( she gets up twice at night to nurse). I did try to pump

today for the

> first time in months and MAYBE got one ounce all together. Is

that normal?

> When I was pumping all the time a few months back I could easily

get 8 -12

> ounces when I pumped. I am sure by my over pumping I was over

producing milk

> then- I have probably about 100 frozen bags of milk. I also think

that may

> have been why she was rejecting the breast- it was coming out too

hard/fast and

> choking her- there was always wet spots on the bed after she

nursed at

> night. Also back then my breast would get engorged after a few

hours and I would

> HAVE to nurse or pump. NOw they dont really get that way

anymore. Just want

> to be sure my baby is getting enough liquid....she doesn't get any

liquid

> except when she nurses (except water in her oatmeal), and wanted

to be sure

> that my milk is not drying up. HOw will I know if my milk stops

coming in? I

> have breast implants (I know, dumb thing I did in college)and have

never been

> able to feel the " let down " everyone speaks of....I didn't even

know when my

> milk came in....so I am afraid I wont know if it stops. She is

wetting

> plenty of diapers and is a chubby healthy girl.

> Thanks guys

> AMy

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Often what happens is baby no 1 isn't interested in the milk b/c it's designed

for baby no

2. I think what happens is no 1 stops for a few days and then can be brought

back after. I

believe after a few sucks the milk goes to whichever baby has latched on.

She shouldn't plan. I planned on nursing Marlie till 2 and she nursed till 4

and would have

nursed longer I'm sure if I didn't end it. Kids really decide for us so often.

>

> a mom in my mom and baby yoga class has just found out she is pregnant

> her current baby is almost 6 months

> she plans to breast feed this child until she is two

> however pregnant again she asked a question I didn't know the answer to and

> I can't find it by googling either

> can you help?

> When she gives birth to baby no. 2 (they'll be 15months apart) will she

> produce colostrums like she did for this baby

> or since her milk is already established will baby no. 2 not get that new

> breast milk the first one did?

> Does this sound confusing?

> Do you know what I mean?

> <http://pregnancy.baby-gaga.com/>

>

[Guest guest]

Often what happens is baby no 1 isn't interested in the milk b/c it's designed

for baby no

2. I think what happens is no 1 stops for a few days and then can be brought

back after. I

believe after a few sucks the milk goes to whichever baby has latched on.

She shouldn't plan. I planned on nursing Marlie till 2 and she nursed till 4

and would have

nursed longer I'm sure if I didn't end it. Kids really decide for us so often.

>

> a mom in my mom and baby yoga class has just found out she is pregnant

> her current baby is almost 6 months

> she plans to breast feed this child until she is two

> however pregnant again she asked a question I didn't know the answer to and

> I can't find it by googling either

> can you help?

> When she gives birth to baby no. 2 (they'll be 15months apart) will she

> produce colostrums like she did for this baby

> or since her milk is already established will baby no. 2 not get that new

> breast milk the first one did?

> Does this sound confusing?

> Do you know what I mean?

> <http://pregnancy.baby-gaga.com/>

>

[Guest guest]

, I take it you never found yourself a La Leche group - they'd be great for this and loads of other questions and support against all your "weird" friends who don't appreciate the vegetarian path. Not saying all la leche moms are vegetarians, but they are much more open kind of people. Exactly true what Reggie says, you can't plan - tho we all love to think we can control what will be. My second one was a C-section, so I was apart from my first, who was one month shy of 2 years - and even after a stay in the hospital, the first thing she wanted was to nurse as soon as we were in a private area (the car!!) - I'm sure I've posted about this as it shocked and greatly disappointed my parents, who also gave me LOTS of grief for how I raised my babies. Don't worry about it, if you can, go with your intuition - that's why YOU'RE the mom for your kids. I remember being

careful to always nurse my baby first - and anyway the older one was already eating solids, so it was easier - but I do recall times when I had one on each breast - thinking back I haven't a clue how I did it - but you know, mother of necessity?? Klarapurpleveg <purpleveg@...> wrote: Often what happens is baby no 1 isn't interested in the milk b/c it's designed for baby no 2. I think what happens is no 1 stops for a few days and then can be brought back after. I believe after

a few sucks the milk goes to whichever baby has latched on. She shouldn't plan. I planned on nursing Marlie till 2 and she nursed till 4 and would have nursed longer I'm sure if I didn't end it. Kids really decide for us so often.>> a mom in my mom and baby yoga class has just found out she is pregnant> her current baby is almost 6 months > she plans to breast feed this child until she is two> however pregnant again she asked a question I didn't know the answer to and> I can't find it by googling either> can you help?> When she gives birth to baby no. 2 (they'll be 15months apart) will she> produce colostrums like she did for this baby > or since her milk is already established will baby no. 2 not get that new> breast milk the

first one did?> Does this sound confusing?> Do you know what I mean?> <http://pregnancy.baby-gaga.com/>>

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[Guest guest]

, I take it you never found yourself a La Leche group - they'd be great for this and loads of other questions and support against all your "weird" friends who don't appreciate the vegetarian path. Not saying all la leche moms are vegetarians, but they are much more open kind of people. Exactly true what Reggie says, you can't plan - tho we all love to think we can control what will be. My second one was a C-section, so I was apart from my first, who was one month shy of 2 years - and even after a stay in the hospital, the first thing she wanted was to nurse as soon as we were in a private area (the car!!) - I'm sure I've posted about this as it shocked and greatly disappointed my parents, who also gave me LOTS of grief for how I raised my babies. Don't worry about it, if you can, go with your intuition - that's why YOU'RE the mom for your kids. I remember being

careful to always nurse my baby first - and anyway the older one was already eating solids, so it was easier - but I do recall times when I had one on each breast - thinking back I haven't a clue how I did it - but you know, mother of necessity?? Klarapurpleveg <purpleveg@...> wrote: Often what happens is baby no 1 isn't interested in the milk b/c it's designed for baby no 2. I think what happens is no 1 stops for a few days and then can be brought back after. I believe after

a few sucks the milk goes to whichever baby has latched on. She shouldn't plan. I planned on nursing Marlie till 2 and she nursed till 4 and would have nursed longer I'm sure if I didn't end it. Kids really decide for us so often.>> a mom in my mom and baby yoga class has just found out she is pregnant> her current baby is almost 6 months > she plans to breast feed this child until she is two> however pregnant again she asked a question I didn't know the answer to and> I can't find it by googling either> can you help?> When she gives birth to baby no. 2 (they'll be 15months apart) will she> produce colostrums like she did for this baby > or since her milk is already established will baby no. 2 not get that new> breast milk the

first one did?> Does this sound confusing?> Do you know what I mean?> <http://pregnancy.baby-gaga.com/>>

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I guess there is no harm done if baby gets mature milk instead of the milk it would normally get the first week of life ...but I know that first milk is normally so high in nutrients and is important for their immunity

" ...become the change you envision." Lemoine

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of purplevegSent: July 28, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Breastfeeding question

Often what happens is baby no 1 isn't interested in the milk b/c it's designed for baby no 2. I think what happens is no 1 stops for a few days and then can be brought back after. I believe after a few sucks the milk goes to whichever baby has latched on. She shouldn't plan. I planned on nursing Marlie till 2 and she nursed till 4 and would have nursed longer I'm sure if I didn't end it. Kids really decide for us so often.>> a mom in my mom and baby yoga class has just found out she is pregnant> her current baby is almost 6 months > she plans to breast feed this child until she is two> however pregnant again she asked a question I didn't know the answer to and> I can't find it by googling either> can you help?> When she gives birth to baby no. 2 (they'll be 15months apart) will she> produce colostrums like she did for this baby > or since her milk is already established will baby no. 2 not get that new> breast milk the first one did?> Does this sound confusing?> Do you know what I mean?> <http://pregnancy.baby-gaga.com/>>

[Guest guest]

I guess there is no harm done if baby gets mature milk instead of the milk it would normally get the first week of life ...but I know that first milk is normally so high in nutrients and is important for their immunity

" ...become the change you envision." Lemoine

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of purplevegSent: July 28, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Breastfeeding question

Often what happens is baby no 1 isn't interested in the milk b/c it's designed for baby no 2. I think what happens is no 1 stops for a few days and then can be brought back after. I believe after a few sucks the milk goes to whichever baby has latched on. She shouldn't plan. I planned on nursing Marlie till 2 and she nursed till 4 and would have nursed longer I'm sure if I didn't end it. Kids really decide for us so often.>> a mom in my mom and baby yoga class has just found out she is pregnant> her current baby is almost 6 months > she plans to breast feed this child until she is two> however pregnant again she asked a question I didn't know the answer to and> I can't find it by googling either> can you help?> When she gives birth to baby no. 2 (they'll be 15months apart) will she> produce colostrums like she did for this baby > or since her milk is already established will baby no. 2 not get that new> breast milk the first one did?> Does this sound confusing?> Do you know what I mean?> <http://pregnancy.baby-gaga.com/>>

[Guest guest]

I'll have to ask at the next meeting!

" ...become the change you envision." Lemoine

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Klara LeVineSent: July 28, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Breastfeeding question

,

I take it you never found yourself a La Leche group - they'd be great for this and loads of other questions and support against all your "weird" friends who don't appreciate the vegetarian path. Not saying all la leche moms are vegetarians, but they are much more open kind of people.

Exactly true what Reggie says, you can't plan - tho we all love to think we can control what will be. My second one was a C-section, so I was apart from my first, who was one month shy of 2 years - and even after a stay in the hospital, the first thing she wanted was to nurse as soon as we were in a private area (the car!!) - I'm sure I've posted about this as it shocked and greatly disappointed my parents, who also gave me LOTS of grief for how I raised my babies. Don't worry about it, if you can, go with your intuition - that's why YOU'RE the mom for your kids.

I remember being careful to always nurse my baby first - and anyway the older one was already eating solids, so it was easier - but I do recall times when I had one on each breast - thinking back I haven't a clue how I did it - but you know, mother of necessity??

Klarapurpleveg <purpleveg > wrote:

Often what happens is baby no 1 isn't interested in the milk b/c it's designed for baby no 2. I think what happens is no 1 stops for a few days and then can be brought back after. I believe after a few sucks the milk goes to whichever baby has latched on. She shouldn't plan. I planned on nursing Marlie till 2 and she nursed till 4 and would have nursed longer I'm sure if I didn't end it. Kids really decide for us so often.>> a mom in my mom and baby yoga class has just found out she is pregnant> her current baby is almost 6 months > she plans to breast feed this child until she is two> however pregnant again she asked a question I didn't know the answer to and> I can't find it by googling either> can you help?> When she gives birth to baby no. 2 (they'll be 15months apart) will she> produce colostrums like she did for this baby > or since her milk is already established will baby no. 2 not get that new> breast milk the first one did?> Does this sound confusing?> Do you know what I mean?> <http://pregnancy.baby-gaga.com/>>

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[Guest guest]

I'll have to ask at the next meeting!

" ...become the change you envision." Lemoine

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Klara LeVineSent: July 28, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Breastfeeding question

,

I take it you never found yourself a La Leche group - they'd be great for this and loads of other questions and support against all your "weird" friends who don't appreciate the vegetarian path. Not saying all la leche moms are vegetarians, but they are much more open kind of people.

Exactly true what Reggie says, you can't plan - tho we all love to think we can control what will be. My second one was a C-section, so I was apart from my first, who was one month shy of 2 years - and even after a stay in the hospital, the first thing she wanted was to nurse as soon as we were in a private area (the car!!) - I'm sure I've posted about this as it shocked and greatly disappointed my parents, who also gave me LOTS of grief for how I raised my babies. Don't worry about it, if you can, go with your intuition - that's why YOU'RE the mom for your kids.

I remember being careful to always nurse my baby first - and anyway the older one was already eating solids, so it was easier - but I do recall times when I had one on each breast - thinking back I haven't a clue how I did it - but you know, mother of necessity??

Klarapurpleveg <purpleveg > wrote:

Often what happens is baby no 1 isn't interested in the milk b/c it's designed for baby no 2. I think what happens is no 1 stops for a few days and then can be brought back after. I believe after a few sucks the milk goes to whichever baby has latched on. She shouldn't plan. I planned on nursing Marlie till 2 and she nursed till 4 and would have nursed longer I'm sure if I didn't end it. Kids really decide for us so often.>> a mom in my mom and baby yoga class has just found out she is pregnant> her current baby is almost 6 months > she plans to breast feed this child until she is two> however pregnant again she asked a question I didn't know the answer to and> I can't find it by googling either> can you help?> When she gives birth to baby no. 2 (they'll be 15months apart) will she> produce colostrums like she did for this baby > or since her milk is already established will baby no. 2 not get that new> breast milk the first one did?> Does this sound confusing?> Do you know what I mean?> <http://pregnancy.baby-gaga.com/>>

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[Guest guest]

hi,

I'm no expert, having only one child myself! ;-) but I would think with the

hormones from pregnancy and birth, your body is quite aware that it needs

to have milk for a newborn.

I have a dear friend who had her second baby while I was living in the apartment

above, I was blessed to watch her homebirth and the following first few months.

Her first son nursed throughout her pregnancy, and continued nursing after

the second. He didn't nurse as much, as mama was often holding the baby and

he was a very active toddler. But I never got the sense there were any milk

issues--her newborn grew and grew and grew....just beautifully!

I think it's wonderful you're asking so many questions and looking at all your

options now.

do you plan on returning to work? If so, if there are no Waldorf schools in

your

area, I'm sure you will love Montessori. Ari will be in Montessori this fall

for

3 hours/day, and I love the way the classrooms are set up. I think it's really

essential to have the toddlers (2-year olds) together during the first year,

I like knowing that Ari will be with other 2-year olds and not with 5 year-olds,

just yet! ;-)

Waldorf is very sweet and gentle, and more centered around the spiritual side

of who we are. Uses outdoor play/discovery more, arts/crafts have a big

role until they are reading/writing, and uses fairy tales/fables to help map out

the underlying issues children have to grapple with as they become more aware

of their world. It's a wonderful curriculum, I would much prefer for Ari to

attend a Waldorf.

I also have this desire to spend as much time as possible with my little one,

and keep wondering if they would just let me send him for a 1/2 day! LOL!!!

peace and blessings,

Holly

>

> I guess there is no harm done if baby gets mature milk instead of the milk

> it would normally get the first week of life ...but I know that first milk

> is normally so high in nutrients and is important for their immunity

>

>

>

>

> " ...become the change you envision. " Lemoine

>

> <outbind://8/Cartoon_files/image001.gif>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi,

I'm no expert, having only one child myself! ;-) but I would think with the

hormones from pregnancy and birth, your body is quite aware that it needs

to have milk for a newborn.

I have a dear friend who had her second baby while I was living in the apartment

above, I was blessed to watch her homebirth and the following first few months.

Her first son nursed throughout her pregnancy, and continued nursing after

the second. He didn't nurse as much, as mama was often holding the baby and

he was a very active toddler. But I never got the sense there were any milk

issues--her newborn grew and grew and grew....just beautifully!

I think it's wonderful you're asking so many questions and looking at all your

options now.

do you plan on returning to work? If so, if there are no Waldorf schools in

your

area, I'm sure you will love Montessori. Ari will be in Montessori this fall

for

3 hours/day, and I love the way the classrooms are set up. I think it's really

essential to have the toddlers (2-year olds) together during the first year,

I like knowing that Ari will be with other 2-year olds and not with 5 year-olds,

just yet! ;-)

Waldorf is very sweet and gentle, and more centered around the spiritual side

of who we are. Uses outdoor play/discovery more, arts/crafts have a big

role until they are reading/writing, and uses fairy tales/fables to help map out

the underlying issues children have to grapple with as they become more aware

of their world. It's a wonderful curriculum, I would much prefer for Ari to

attend a Waldorf.

I also have this desire to spend as much time as possible with my little one,

and keep wondering if they would just let me send him for a 1/2 day! LOL!!!

peace and blessings,

Holly

>

> I guess there is no harm done if baby gets mature milk instead of the milk

> it would normally get the first week of life ...but I know that first milk

> is normally so high in nutrients and is important for their immunity

>

>

>

>

> " ...become the change you envision. " Lemoine

>

> <outbind://8/Cartoon_files/image001.gif>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your detailed email!

Yes, I'll be returning to work ...unless I can figure something out.

I can't imagine being away from my son all day! I'd go insane!!!

5 provinces have the waldorf schools, unfortunately mine isn't one of them.

" ...become the change you envision." Lemoine

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of HollySent: July 29, 2007 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Breastfeeding question

hi, I'm no expert, having only one child myself! ;-) but I would think with thehormones from pregnancy and birth, your body is quite aware that it needsto have milk for a newborn. I have a dear friend who had her second baby while I was living in the apartmentabove, I was blessed to watch her homebirth and the following first few months.Her first son nursed throughout her pregnancy, and continued nursing after the second. He didn't nurse as much, as mama was often holding the baby andhe was a very active toddler. But I never got the sense there were any milkissues--her newborn grew and grew and grew....just beautifully! I think it's wonderful you're asking so many questions and looking at all youroptions now. do you plan on returning to work? If so, if there are no Waldorf schools in yourarea, I'm sure you will love Montessori. Ari will be in Montessori this fall for3 hours/day, and I love the way the classrooms are set up. I think it's reallyessential to have the toddlers (2-year olds) together during the first year,I like knowing that Ari will be with other 2-year olds and not with 5 year-olds,just yet! ;-)Waldorf is very sweet and gentle, and more centered around the spiritual sideof who we are. Uses outdoor play/discovery more, arts/crafts have a bigrole until they are reading/writing, and uses fairy tales/fables to help map outthe underlying issues children have to grapple with as they become more awareof their world. It's a wonderful curriculum, I would much prefer for Ari toattend a Waldorf. I also have this desire to spend as much time as possible with my little one,and keep wondering if they would just let me send him for a 1/2 day! LOL!!!peace and blessings,Holly>> I guess there is no harm done if baby gets mature milk instead of the milk> it would normally get the first week of life ...but I know that first milk> is normally so high in nutrients and is important for their immunity> > > > > " ...become the change you envision." Lemoine> > <outbind://8/Cartoon_files/image001.gif> > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your detailed email!

Yes, I'll be returning to work ...unless I can figure something out.

I can't imagine being away from my son all day! I'd go insane!!!

5 provinces have the waldorf schools, unfortunately mine isn't one of them.

" ...become the change you envision." Lemoine

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of HollySent: July 29, 2007 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Breastfeeding question

hi, I'm no expert, having only one child myself! ;-) but I would think with thehormones from pregnancy and birth, your body is quite aware that it needsto have milk for a newborn. I have a dear friend who had her second baby while I was living in the apartmentabove, I was blessed to watch her homebirth and the following first few months.Her first son nursed throughout her pregnancy, and continued nursing after the second. He didn't nurse as much, as mama was often holding the baby andhe was a very active toddler. But I never got the sense there were any milkissues--her newborn grew and grew and grew....just beautifully! I think it's wonderful you're asking so many questions and looking at all youroptions now. do you plan on returning to work? If so, if there are no Waldorf schools in yourarea, I'm sure you will love Montessori. Ari will be in Montessori this fall for3 hours/day, and I love the way the classrooms are set up. I think it's reallyessential to have the toddlers (2-year olds) together during the first year,I like knowing that Ari will be with other 2-year olds and not with 5 year-olds,just yet! ;-)Waldorf is very sweet and gentle, and more centered around the spiritual sideof who we are. Uses outdoor play/discovery more, arts/crafts have a bigrole until they are reading/writing, and uses fairy tales/fables to help map outthe underlying issues children have to grapple with as they become more awareof their world. It's a wonderful curriculum, I would much prefer for Ari toattend a Waldorf. I also have this desire to spend as much time as possible with my little one,and keep wondering if they would just let me send him for a 1/2 day! LOL!!!peace and blessings,Holly>> I guess there is no harm done if baby gets mature milk instead of the milk> it would normally get the first week of life ...but I know that first milk> is normally so high in nutrients and is important for their immunity> > > > > " ...become the change you envision." Lemoine> > <outbind://8/Cartoon_files/image001.gif> > > >

[Guest guest]

When thinking about the big picture of autism, I've often wondered if the

increase in autism that started to occur in the 1990's is correlated with the

increase in popularity of breastfeeding around that same time. Don't get me

wrong, I think breastfeeding is great...BUT if the moms are toxic????

I breastfed my older, diagnosed son for 14 months. My younger son, who has some

symptoms...only 6 months. There were also flu shots involved with my older son

that, because of the time of year, I skipped with my second pregnancy.

But the thing that weighs most on me is the breastfeeding what I thought was

great for them, could have possibly been what got my boys into this mess???

Any thoughts?

Kari

[Guest guest]

I wasn't able to get more than an ounce of breastmilk every 2-3 hours, so my

son took formula primarily. He is quite autistic.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:01 AM, karicreehan <karicreehan@...> wrote:

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> When thinking about the big picture of autism, I've often wondered if the

> increase in autism that started to occur in the 1990's is correlated with

> the increase in popularity of breastfeeding around that same time. Don't get

> me wrong, I think breastfeeding is great...BUT if the moms are toxic????

>

> I breastfed my older, diagnosed son for 14 months. My younger son, who has

> some symptoms...only 6 months. There were also flu shots involved with my

> older son that, because of the time of year, I skipped with my second

> pregnancy.

>

> But the thing that weighs most on me is the breastfeeding what I thought

> was great for them, could have possibly been what got my boys into this

> mess???

>

> Any thoughts?

> Kari

>

>

>

--

Human beings are not born once and for all on the day their mothers give

birth to them, but rather life obliges them over and over again to give

birth to themselves.

Marquez

[Guest guest]

I'd heard first borns receive a higher dump of the mother's load in utero.

Anecdotal. . .my first born nursed 3.5 years. She is extremely gluten

sensitive, but just mildly so with casein. My sense is that she would be

equally dairy sensitive had she received formula.

>

> When thinking about the big picture of autism, I've often wondered if the

increase in autism that started to occur in the 1990's is correlated with the

increase in popularity of breastfeeding around that same time. Don't get me

wrong, I think breastfeeding is great...BUT if the moms are toxic????

[Guest guest]

Breastfeeding does not increase/cause autism.

If one researches the content of formula - and its appropriateness for human

beings - one will see that formula is quite toxic.

Prior to formula's invention, pretty much all babies were breastfed - and it

seems that autism was rare at most.

The benefits of human breast milk for human babies are immense - even if the mom

is supposedly toxic.

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> >

> > When thinking about the big picture of autism, I've often wondered if the

> > increase in autism that started to occur in the 1990's is correlated with

> > the increase in popularity of breastfeeding around that same time. Don't get

> > me wrong, I think breastfeeding is great...BUT if the moms are toxic????

> >

> > I breastfed my older, diagnosed son for 14 months. My younger son, who has

> > some symptoms...only 6 months. There were also flu shots involved with my

> > older son that, because of the time of year, I skipped with my second

> > pregnancy.

> >

> > But the thing that weighs most on me is the breastfeeding what I thought

> > was great for them, could have possibly been what got my boys into this

> > mess???

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> > Kari

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Human beings are not born once and for all on the day their mothers give

> birth to them, but rather life obliges them over and over again to give

> birth to themselves.

> Marquez

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>

>

[Guest guest]

I have two kids with Aspergers and breastfed them both (I also have a baby I am

currently breastfeeding). I think that if you are able to breastfeed, whether

you are toxic or not, it is better than formula. There are soooo many chemicals

in any baby formula. And, we are talking about kids who are sensitive to

chemicals to begin with. The ideal option would be to know you were toxic ahead

of time and get yourself cleaned out before getting pregnant, but that is

completely unrealistic. Until I had kids and they had problems, I didn't realize

how toxic the world is. I think that you did the best for him that you could.

Because of the environment and thing you couldn't directly control or didn't

know about at that time, he was exposed to more toxins than he could handle, but

NOT because you breastfed him. Don't give that another negative thought. Give

yourself a pat on the back for doing your best!! That is my two cents anyway!

Cheryl G

>

> When thinking about the big picture of autism, I've often wondered if the

increase in autism that started to occur in the 1990's is correlated with the

increase in popularity of breastfeeding around that same time. Don't get me

wrong, I think breastfeeding is great...BUT if the moms are toxic????

>

> I breastfed my older, diagnosed son for 14 months. My younger son, who has

some symptoms...only 6 months. There were also flu shots involved with my older

son that, because of the time of year, I skipped with my second pregnancy.

>

> But the thing that weighs most on me is the breastfeeding what I thought

was great for them, could have possibly been what got my boys into this mess???

>

> Any thoughts?

> Kari

>

[Guest guest]

Kari,

I don't know that any research has been done on this but my feeling is

that a mother would have to be incredibly toxic for the benefits of

breastfeeding to be outweighed by the possible problems. Anecdotally, I

have read a number of mothers who believe that they could see a

difference (negatively) once they stopped breastfeeding their autistic

child. On a personal note, I have a mouthful of amalgams, had one break

during off during breastfeeding my son and had it removed whilst

continueing to breastfeed and am still breastfeeding him at almost 2 1/2

years and can say he is completely NT with no issues (the child with

autism that we are chelating is adopted so not due to my toxicity).

Jenene

[Guest guest]

I breastfed both boys, first one PDD-NOS, vaccinated until 4 yrs., had a few flu

shots and I had one also during pregnancy due to my asthma, supposedly. Second

child, very allergic(food), some mild issues(speech and OT, not diagnosed and

doing very well on supps, less vaccines. Both highly allergic to milk as I am

sure I am.

I think if I did not breasfeed them, they both could have been much worse off.

They do respond well supps.

People say take selenium if you have amalgams present while breastfeeding and

don't get any dental work/ cleanings done during.

> >

> > When thinking about the big picture of autism, I've often wondered if the

increase in autism that started to occur in the 1990's is correlated with the

increase in popularity of breastfeeding around that same time. Don't get me

wrong, I think breastfeeding is great...BUT if the moms are toxic????

> >

> > I breastfed my older, diagnosed son for 14 months. My younger son, who has

some symptoms...only 6 months. There were also flu shots involved with my older

son that, because of the time of year, I skipped with my second pregnancy.

> >

> > But the thing that weighs most on me is the breastfeeding what I thought

was great for them, could have possibly been what got my boys into this mess???

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> > Kari

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The information I have available to me makes it clear that even a fairly toxic

mother breastfeeding her child ends up with the child coming out a lot healthier

than if they were formula fed.

Andy

<a href= " http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html " >Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and

Treatment</a >

<a href= " http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html " >Hair Test Interpretation:

Finding Hidden Toxicities</a >

<a href= " http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html " >Nourishing Hope for

Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children</a >

<a href= " http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html " >Biological

Treatments for Autism and PDD</a >

[Guest guest]

oh good. That made me breathe a sigh of relief. I mean, I still think that we

have the toxicity passed from me to them, but at least the general consensus

seems to be that the pros outweigh the cons when it comes to breastfeeding.

Thanks for the feedback!

Kari

>

> The information I have available to me makes it clear that even a fairly toxic

mother breastfeeding her child ends up with the child coming out a lot healthier

than if they were formula fed.

>

> Andy

>

> <a href= " http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html " >Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and

Treatment</a >

>

> <a href= " http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html " >Hair Test Interpretation:

Finding Hidden Toxicities</a >

>

> <a href= " http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html " >Nourishing Hope for

Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children</a >

>

> <a href= " http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html " >Biological

Treatments for Autism and PDD</a >

>