Probiotics question

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Both the NAP and the type O retail formulas are blood type specific. This

one isn't. Hope this helps.

Probiotics question

I'm forwarding a portion of an e-mail I just got about Probiotics. Is

the NAP formula anything like this, and/or are these particular little

guys okay for Os? I can look them up when I get home, but this sounded

interesting.

E Long

--- drjoncat wrote:

> We have had many enquiries about Probiotics from our members. The

> scientific evidence of its efficacy is compelling. A search revealed

> that this product is expensive. A discussion of its merits is below.

>

> A major marketer is http://www.celltech.com/Catalog/html/pg14.asp .

> They sell 100 capsules, containing 1.4 billion Lactobacillus

> acidophilus, for $22.50. The same, containing Lactobacillus bifidum,

> is also $22.50/100.

>

> A reliable manufacturer produces a Super Probiotic formula which they

> retail for $79.95 for quantity 100. It contains the following:

>

> Serving Size: 1 capsule

>

> Lactobacillus Acidophilus 1 billion viable organism 20 mg

> Lactobacillus Bifidus 1 billion viable organism 130 mg

> Lactobacillus Rhamnosus 1 billion viable organism 20 mg

> Lactobacillus Lactis 500 million viable organism 130 mg

> Lactobacillus Longum 500 million viable organisim 20 mg

> Lactobacillus Thermophilus 200 million viable organism 100 mg

> FOS (frutoolligosaccharides) 400 mg

>

> They will private label the product for us for under $9.00, if we

> order 25,000. We could sell it for under $10.00. If there is enough

> interest, we will add this to our product line.

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

> Probiotics and Fructo-oligosaccharides (FOS)

>

> Beneficial bacteria, such as Lactobacillus acidophilus and

> Bifidobacterium bifidum, are called probiotics. Probiotic bacteria

> favorably alter the intestinal microflora balance, inhibit the growth

>

> of harmful bacteria, promote good digestion, boost immune function,

> and increase resistance to infection. 1,2 Individuals with

> flourishing intestinal colonies of beneficial bacteria are better

> equipped to fight the growth of disease-causing bacteria.3,4

>

> What do they do?

>

> Acidophilus and bifidobacteria maintain a healthy balance of

> intestinal flora by producing organic compoundssuch as lactic acid,

> hydrogen peroxide, and acetic acidthat increase the acidity of the

> intestine and inhibit the reproduction of many harmful bacteria. 5 6

>

> Probiotic bacteria also produce substances called bacteriocins, which

>

> act as natural antibiotics to kill undesirable microorganisms.7

>

> Regular ingestion of probiotic bacteria may help prevent vaginal

> yeast infection.8 9 A review of the research concluded that both

> topical and oral use of acidophilus can prevent yeast infection

> caused by candida overgrowth. 10

>

> Diarrhea flushes intestinal microorganisms out of the

> gastrointestinal tract, leaving the body vulnerable to opportunistic

> infections. Replenishing the beneficial bacteria with probiotic

> supplements can help prevent new infections. The incidence

> of " traveler's diarrhea, " caused by pathogenic bacteria in drinking

> water or undercooked foods, can be reduced by the preventive use of

> probiotics. 11

>

> One probiotic, Saccharomyces boulardii, has prevented diarrhea in

> several human trials. 12 Double blind research studying critically

> ill patients found this strain of yeast to prevent diarrhea when 500

> mg is taken four times per day. 13

>

> Probiotics are also important in recolonizing the intestine during

> and after antibiotic use. Probiotic supplements replace the

> beneficial bacteria, preventing up to 50% of infections occurring

> after antibiotic use. 14

>

> Probiotics also promote healthy digestion. Enzymes secreted by

> probiotic bacteria aid digestion. Acidophilus is a source of

> lactase, the enzyme needed to digest milk, which is lacking in

> lactose-intolerant individuals. 15

>

> Fructo-oligosaccharides (FOS) are naturally occurring carbohydrates

> that cannot be digested or absorbed by humans but support the growth

> of bifidobacteria, one of the beneficial bacterial strains. 16 As a

> result, some nutritionally oriented doctors recommend taking FOS to

> all patients who are supplementing bifidobacteria. Several trials

> have used 8 grams per day. However, a review of the research has

> suggested that 4 grams per day appears to be enough to significantly

> increase the number bifidobacteria in the gut. 17 FOS have been

> reported to reduce blood sugar and cholesterol levels. 18 FOS also

> appear to increase absorption of calcium in humans. 19

>

> Where are they found?

>

> Beneficial bacteria present in fermented dairy foodsnamely live

> culture yogurthave been used as a folk remedy for hundreds, if not

> thousands of years. Yogurt is the traditional source of beneficial

> bacteria; however, different brands of yogurt can vary greatly in

> their bacteria strain and potency. Some (particularly frozen)

> yogurts do not contain any live bacteria. Supplements in powder,

> liquid extract, capsule, or tablet form containing beneficial

> bacteria are a source of probiotics.

>

> FOS occur naturally in many foods, such as Jerusalem artichokes,

> bananas, barley, garlic, honey, onions, wheat, and tomatoes; however,

>

> nutritional supplements containing FOS provide a more concentrated

> source of this compound.

>

> Who is likely to be deficient? People using antibiotics, eating a

> poor diet, or suffering from diarrhea are more likely to have

> depleted colonies of friendly bacteria.

>

> How much is usually taken?

>

> The amount of probiotics necessary to replenish the intestine varies

> according to the extent of microbial depletion and the presence of

> harmful bacteria. One to two billion colony forming units (CFUs) per

>

> day of acidophilus is considered to be the minimum beneficial amount

> for the healthy maintenance of intestinal microflora. FOS is

> generally taken in amounts of 15 grams per day. Some Saccharomyces

> boulardii research has used 500 mg taken four times per day.

>

> Are there any side effects or interactions?

>

> No side effects have been reported, even with large intakes of

> probiotic bacteria.

>

> Acidophilus and bifidobacteria may produce B vitamins, including

> niacin, folic acid, biotin, and vitamin B6.

>

> References:

>

> 1. Smirnov VV, Reznik SR, V'iunitskaia VA, et al. The current

> concepts of the mechanisms of the therapeutic-prophylactic action of

> probiotics from bacteria in the genus bacillus. Mikrobiolohichnyi

> Zhurnal 1993;55(4):92112.

> 2. Mel'nikova VM, Gracheva NM, Belikov GP, et al. The

> chemoprophylaxis and chemotherapy of opportunistic infections.

> Antibiotiki i Khimioterapiia 1993;38:4448.

> 3. De Simone C, Vesely R, Bianchi SB, et al. The role of probiotics

> in modulation of the immune system in man and in animals. Int J

> Immunother 1993;9:2328.

> 4. Veldman A. Probiotics. Tijdschrift voor Diergeneeskunde 1992;117

> (12):34548.

> 5. Kawase K. Effects of nutrients on the intestinal microflora of

> infants. Jpn J Dairy Food Sci 1982; 31:A24143.

> 6. Rasic JL. The role of dairy foods containing bifido and

> acidophilus bacteria in nutrition and health. N Eur Dairy J

> 1983;4:80

> 88.

> 7. Barefoot SF, Klaenhammer TR. Detection and activity of Lactacin B,

>

> a Bacteriocin produced by Lactobacillus acidophilus. Appl Environ

> Microbiol 1983;45:180815.

> 8. Hilton E, Isenberg HD, Alperstein P, et al. Ingestion of yogurt

> containing Lactobacillus acidophilus as prophylaxis for candidal

> vaginitis. Ann Int Med 1992;116:35357.

> 9. Reid G et al. Implantation of Lactobacillus casei var rhamnosus

> into vagina. Lancet 1994;344:1229.

> 10. Elmer GW, Surawicz CM, McFarland LV. Biotherapeutic agents. JAMA

> 1996;275(11):87076.

> 11. Scarpignato C, Rampal P. Prevention and treatment of traveler's

> diarrhea: A clinical pharmacological approach. Chemotherapy

> 1995;41:4881.

> 12. Golledge CL, Riley TV. " Natural " therapy for infectious diseases.

>

> Med J Austral 1996;164:9495 [review].

> 13. Bleichner G, Blehaut H, Mentec H, Moyse D. Saccharomyces

> boulardii prevents diarrhea in critically ill tube-fed patients. A

> multicenter, randomized, double-blind placebo-controlled trial.

> Intensive Care Med 1997;23:51723.

> 14. Loizeau E. Can antibiotic-associated diarrhea be prevented?

> les de Gastroenterologie et d Hepatologie 1993;29(1):1518.

> 15. McDonough FE, Hitchins AD, Wong NP, et al. Modification of sweet

> acidophilus milk to improve utilization by lactose-intolerant

> persons. Am J Clin Nutr 1987;45:57074.

> 16. CH, Witherly SA, Buddington, R.K. Influence of Dietary

> Neosugar on Selected Bacterial Groups of the Human Faecal Microbiota.

>

> Microb Ecol Health Dis 1994;7:9197.

> 17. Bigson GR. Dietary modulation of the human gut microflora using

> prebiotics. Br J Nutr 1998;80(Suppl 2):S209S212.

> 18. Yamashita K, Kawai K, Itakura M. Effects of fructo-

> oligosaccharides on blood glucose and serum lipids in diabetic

> subjects. Nutr Res 1984;4:96166.

> 19. van den Heuvel EGHM, Muys T, van Dokkum W, Schaafsma G.

> Oligofructose stimulates calcium absorption in adolescents. Am J Clin

>

> Nutr 1999;69:54448.

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

wrote: " I was wondering if someone knows the answer to this. I have

noticed that many probiotics require refrigeration. If they require

refrigeration to stay alive, how will they ever survive body heat??

I've wondered about that myself, many times. My son told me that he read in

the Berkeley health newsletter a few years ago a reference to a study that

said the probiotic organisms never survive in the body long enough to make a

difference. I couldn't find the study.

Sue B.

Upstate New York

[Guest guest]

I don't know about the acidopholus as I take the pills if I even remotely

suspect that Liam or I are getting thrush.

www.tahitiannoni.com my sister sells it. Her dh is the biggest skeptic on

the face of the earth and they both swear by it. I think my sister has been

sick once in the 3 or 4 years that they've been taking it.

I have the fiber powder and some drink mix type stuff (can't remember) I

LOVE mixing the drink mix with a little milk and frozen strawberries to make

a smoothie.

I don't know much more about it. Her email is martinsal at charter dot net

if you have specific questiont

Probiotics question

> Hi again all

> =

> I thought I would put this in a seperate email. I take acidophilus and

> had been taking it in the 2 billion potency in capsule form but fresh

> (refrigerated). I accidentally picked up the wrong bottle when went to

> buy more the other day and got the same potency but in a powder. I read

> on this list how powder is best anyway, but on label is said to take 1/2

> tsp once or twice a day. That doesn't seem like enough or is it? The

> capsules said take up to four times a day. I assume you mix in a drink,

> bottle didnt say. I have been mixing it in some veggie juice but it

> tends to lump up. Any tips on how to take this? Thanks

>

> Also, anyone here heard of Noni juice? I drink the Tahitian Noni juice

> and am in loading stage right now, but was increasing amount while sick.

> There is a website cant remember it.....

>

> thanks, Loni

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've just started taking a mixture, called Aidobifidus, it has a few

kinds in it, I'm not sure if its the best/will work but I'll give it

a go.

A

-- In Vaccinations , lonius@w... wrote:

> Hi again all

>

> I thought I would put this in a seperate email. I take acidophilus

and

> had been taking it in the 2 billion potency in capsule form but

fresh

> (refrigerated). I accidentally picked up the wrong bottle when

went to

> buy more the other day and got the same potency but in a powder. I

read

> on this list how powder is best anyway, but on label is said to

take 1/2

> tsp once or twice a day. That doesn't seem like enough or is it?

The

> capsules said take up to four times a day. I assume you mix in a

drink,

> bottle didnt say. I have been mixing it in some veggie juice but it

> tends to lump up. Any tips on how to take this? Thanks

>

> Also, anyone here heard of Noni juice? I drink the Tahitian Noni

juice

> and am in loading stage right now, but was increasing amount while

sick.

> There is a website cant remember it.....

>

> thanks, Loni

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Have you read Natasha -McBride's book? She mentions this, but says that the stomach acid in autistic kids (or anyone with 'gut and psychology' problems) tend to have low stomach acidity, but also, even the bacteria that die have been found to have a beneficial effect, can't remember why this is, I've lent my Mum my book and need it back! Maybe someone more enlightened will chip in a bit more.

hth

Diane

Probiotics question

I read in a recent message a comment questioning whether bacteria in probiotics survive the acidity in the stomach. Do probiotics come with a guarantee that they survive stomach acidity?Grandfather of Luke

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In a message dated 21/10/2005 14:52:38 GMT Daylight Time, williamsjm@... writes:

read in a recent message a comment questioning whether bacteria in probiotics survive the acidity in the stomach. Do probiotics come with a guarantee that they survive stomach acidity?

>>>Some say to give with food and other brands say on empty stomach. I guess there is a difference in thier stability.

I know Sam's get through because I can see the difference. When we first started out I did 4 months of high dose Kirkman Probio gold and still showed zero good flora on CDSA..........

Mandi x

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Hello,

Is the living streams probiotic GFCF ? What about Culterelle ? We are GFCFSF

with enzymes.

I need recos for good probiotics that I can rotate periodically.

For the last 6 months we have been using Klaire's complete and I think its time

to change.

Thanks,

Maya

[Guest guest]

We have recently had excellent results with NATREN with our two year old who had

chronic diarrhea. Our 8 yo is also on it. Natren Life Start. I believe they

also have some non dairy types, as well as goat milk based.

olivia

>

> Hello,

>

> Is the living streams probiotic GFCF ? What about Culterelle ? We are GFCFSF

with enzymes.

>

> I need recos for good probiotics that I can rotate periodically.

>

> For the last 6 months we have been using Klaire's complete and I think its

time to change.

>

> Thanks,

> Maya

>