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Katrina,

I'm curious to know, if you don't mind telling, what type of

reaction/symptoms you had when you took " too much " .

I do know Wellness Pharm. That's where my doctor will send an

Rx for Lugol's,if I want to switch from Iodoral.

Marla

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> I've remained at approx. 2 teas a week, becasue I found that 2

days in a row were too much for me. I'll probably try more soon.

>

> www.essentialgsh.com is on the bottle.

>

> It's real interesting to read about.

>

> Katrina

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> > > I was just interested in clarifing on one of the yasko

protocol

> > groups, if by taking the substance Glutathione, as I am at the

> > moment, 25mg, in an anti oxidant multi vitamin formula,

presently

> > manufactured by a company called Solgar, whether by taking the

> > product, if we instead took a better and more well known

precurser

> > to this product, that contained a sulphur metabolizing

substance,

> > that perhaps we could all make Glutathione in our own Livers

> > naturally, and stave off the need to introduce Glutathione

> > artificially ourselves?

> > > Would this be more efficacious?

> > > Apologies if this sounds confusing, as I have had to type this

out

> > twice, as my web page expired!

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > >

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Marla,

Wiped out, flu-like, aching muscles. Same as many years ago, beginning the

ImmunoPro at full dose. Then much lower dose worked great.

Those who are sulphur-sensitive need to watch out for that too, with the EG

(gsh).

Katrina

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> > > > I was just interested in clarifing on one of the yasko

> protocol

> > > groups, if by taking the substance Glutathione, as I am at the

> > > moment, 25mg, in an anti oxidant multi vitamin formula,

> presently

> > > manufactured by a company called Solgar, whether by taking the

> > > product, if we instead took a better and more well known

> precurser

> > > to this product, that contained a sulphur metabolizing

> substance,

> > > that perhaps we could all make Glutathione in our own Livers

> > > naturally, and stave off the need to introduce Glutathione

> > > artificially ourselves?

> > > > Would this be more efficacious?

> > > > Apologies if this sounds confusing, as I have had to type this

> out

> > > twice, as my web page expired!

> > > > Thanks!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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I take acetyl-l-cysteine with evening primrose oil to try to boost my

glutathione

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> > > I was just interested in clarifing on one of the yasko protocol

> > groups, if by taking the substance Glutathione, as I am at the

> > moment, 25mg, in an anti oxidant multi vitamin formula, presently

> > manufactured by a company called Solgar, whether by taking the

> > product, if we instead took a better and more well known precurser

> > to this product, that contained a sulphur metabolizing substance,

> > that perhaps we could all make Glutathione in our own Livers

> > naturally, and stave off the need to introduce Glutathione

> > artificially ourselves?

> > > Would this be more efficacious?

> > > Apologies if this sounds confusing, as I have had to type this

out

> > twice, as my web page expired!

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Marla, previously in this group, the Liposomal Glutathione product

'Readisorb' was mentioned. See

http://www.readisorb.com/readisorb_liposomal_glutathione.html

This product is a liquid which can be drunk mixed with water or juice,

or straight. I haven't tried it, but it sounds good. Can anyone repor

their experiences with liposomal glutathione? Thanks.

Lesley

....

> There is a product that has the Glut. encapsulated in a fatty

> liposome that seems to protect it and thus it can be taken orally.

> Can't remember where, when, what the details are. Anyone...?

> Marla

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Lesley wrote:

> Can anyone report their experiences with liposomal glutathione?

Red blood cell glutathione levels

16/06/06 : 1.47 (ref: 1.7 - 2.6 umol/l)

22/09/06 1.87 (ref: 1.7 - 2.6 umol/l)

I started taking liposomal glutathione after the first test. Before

that I was taking an oral reduced glutathione product.

Sue S

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That sounds promising to me. Does anyone know how expensive the

liposomal gluathione or the methyl-b12-nasal-spray is?

> > Can anyone report their experiences with liposomal glutathione?

>

> Red blood cell glutathione levels

> 16/06/06 : 1.47 (ref: 1.7 - 2.6 umol/l)

> 22/09/06 1.87 (ref: 1.7 - 2.6 umol/l)

>

> I started taking liposomal glutathione after the first test. Before

> that I was taking an oral reduced glutathione product.

> Sue S

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I think the co. that made liposomal vit c also makes liposomal

glutathione without a prescription. I will try there to get some. joyce

kaye

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> Lesley wrote:

> > Can anyone report their experiences with liposomal glutathione?

>

> Red blood cell glutathione levels

> 16/06/06 : 1.47 (ref: 1.7 - 2.6 umol/l)

> 22/09/06 1.87 (ref: 1.7 - 2.6 umol/l)

>

> I started taking liposomal glutathione after the first test. Before

> that I was taking an oral reduced glutathione product.

> Sue S

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Duncan

 

When I went to the local health food shop and spoke to the naturopath about

glutathione, about a year ago on your advice re glutathione, I got told that

glutathione is ineffective as it is broken down in the system before it is able

to be of any effect. I got refered to the information on this which confirmed

the same. I got told instead to purchase  cysterne (or something) as it was a

precurser and would be more effective in increasing glutathione within the body.

 

Helen

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: Too alkaline

candidiasis

Received: Saturday, 15 November, 2008, 9:37 AM

Ruth, like Helen, I'd be skeptical of a " too alkaline " diagnosis

especially from one so far away who used intuition to deliver the

diagnosis.

Low stomach acid affects half the population by the time we're about

60 years old. This is a non-event.

The regimen shouldn't cause lean tissue loss but does cause fat loss.

You can avoid emaciation of lean tissues the way body builders do --

with whey. They use about 160-180 grams daily, but about half that

should be enough to keep you from wasting.

Duncan

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> From: Ruth Deutsch <rudeutsch@. ..>

> Subject: Too alkaline

> candidiasis

> Received: Monday, 10 November, 2008, 1:49 PM

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>

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> Hi Everyone,

> I feel like I ought to know what to do about this, having had

fungal issues

> so long.....

>

> A practitioner who is treating me from across the country did some

energy

> testing and said that my body is too alkaline. I don't recall what

the

> appropriate thing to do for this would be. I'm so used to the

notion of

> being too acidic. He didn't recommend anything per se.

>

> No, I haven't been a vegetarian or anything close. I recall that

fungus can

> render the places in the body that need to be acidic too alkaline,

e.g. I do

> have low stomach acid.

>

> FYI, I am on his leaky gut diet which is meat and non-starchy

veggies and

> some fat. (I wish I had been overweight, because this regimen

causes weight

> loss, and I'm already too skinny. He said to just put up with it.)

>

> Thanks for your help.

>

> Ruth

>

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Helen, yes, when you eat glutathione it is broken down in the gut;

that's why we use precursors that are delivered to every cell where

the glutathione is made. I didn't suggest eating glutathione but

eating the precursors (whey and selenium). The undenatured whey

delivers the correct precursors to every cell.

N-acetylcysteine is quickly hydrolysed to free-form cysteine, which

is known in the research to be toxic even when you take NAC at

therapeutic doses. For this reason there is a toxin burden and

doctors cite " diminishig returns " when they aren't saving a life with

this toxic formula. Other than that, yes, a percentage of the

unhydrolyzed NAC does enter the liver for glutathione creation IN THE

LIVER, but since the liver sees the NAC and uses it first, very

little has the opportunity to get into the rest of the cells, and 90%

is needed inside the cells.

Cystine and selenium (spelling is correct) may help, but not as much

as whey and selenium will.

All good,

Duncan

>

> Duncan

>  

> When I went to the local health food shop and spoke to the

naturopath about glutathione, about a year ago on your advice re

glutathione, I got told that glutathione is ineffective as it is

broken down in the system before it is able to be of any effect. I

got refered to the information on this which confirmed the same. I

got told instead to purchase  cysterne (or something) as it was a

precurser and would be more effective in increasing glutathione

within the body.

>  

> Helen

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Should whey and selenium be taken at the same time - or is the timing

a non- issue - is taking it/them near food an issue?

lisa c

> >

> > Duncan

> >  

> > When I went to the local health food shop and spoke to the

> naturopath about glutathione, about a year ago on your advice re

> glutathione, I got told that glutathione is ineffective as it is

> broken down in the system before it is able to be of any effect. I

> got refered to the information on this which confirmed the same. I

> got told instead to purchase  cysterne (or something) as it was a

> precurser and would be more effective in increasing glutathione

> within the body.

> >  

> > Helen

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Roxana, frankly I have seen very little to back up oral liposonal-based

delivery.

Glutathione is not absorbable by most cells, although enteric-coated glutathione

may be useful for direct delivery to bowel lining cells. I suggest you hedge

the bet so you know you'll get results -- use precursors as well. Precursors

enter every cell in the normal way to be used for glutathione production.

Duncan

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> Hi Duncan,

>

>

>

> I need to ask you if this Glutathione is worth purchasing.

> <http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catI

> d=17584>

> http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catId

> =17584

>

> It comes in a spray bottle, could you please help me?

>

>

>

> Thank-you,

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Livon Labs has a glutathione product (kind of pricey) in a lyposhperic gel that

supposedly is better absorbed into the cells.

phine

> >

> > Hi Duncan,

> >

> >

> >

> > I need to ask you if this Glutathione is worth purchasing.

> > <http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catI

> > d=17584>

> > http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catId

> > =17584

> >

> > It comes in a spray bottle, could you please help me?

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank-you,

> >

> >

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Thank-you everyone, I am thinking may be just using my whey protein powder

from well wisdom. www.wellwisdom.com

Any comments on this one. It's called ImmunoPro or RenewPro.

Roxana

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of jlkinkona

Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:44 PM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: Glutathione Question

Livon Labs has a glutathione product (kind of pricey) in a lyposhperic gel

that supposedly is better absorbed into the cells.

phine

> >

> > Hi Duncan,

> >

> >

> >

> > I need to ask you if this Glutathione is worth purchasing.

> > <http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details

<http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catI

> & inventoryID=149364 & catI

> > d=17584>

> > http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details

<http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catI

d> & inventoryID=149364 & catId

> > =17584

> >

> > It comes in a spray bottle, could you please help me?

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank-you,

> >

> >

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What I'm looking for is evidence that glutathione, which is normally repelled by

cell walls of all but about 3 types, when delivered liposomally or

lipopherically, is utilized by cells that wouldn't absorb glutathione raw. I

found no data to support the claims so if someone has better luck, please post

the data. Elevated blood serum GSH is not adequate proof.

Duncan.

> > >

> > > Hi Duncan,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I need to ask you if this Glutathione is worth purchasing.

> > >

<http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catI

> > > d=17584>

> > >

http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catId

> > > =17584

> > >

> > > It comes in a spray bottle, could you please help me?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank-you,

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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It's one of the high-end glutathione producers. Whey can be had for about 1/5

the cost,such as Dyna Whey, which has a good profile and including shipping is

just $24 per 1080 gram bag..

iwindirect.com

Duncan

> > >

> > > Hi Duncan,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I need to ask you if this Glutathione is worth purchasing.

> > > <http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details

> <http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catI

> > & inventoryID=149364 & catI

> > > d=17584>

> > > http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details

> <http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catI

> d> & inventoryID=149364 & catId

> > > =17584

> > >

> > > It comes in a spray bottle, could you please help me?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank-you,

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

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>

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Good point. You can call Livon Labs and ask them those questions. phine

> > > >

> > > > Hi Duncan,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I need to ask you if this Glutathione is worth purchasing.

> > > >

<http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catI

> > > > d=17584>

> > > >

http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catId

> > > > =17584

> > > >

> > > > It comes in a spray bottle, could you please help me?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thank-you,

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Thing is phine, the data they have didn't make it through peer-review but we

have this per-reviewed data from a lung study that used a similar product:

" liposomes containing NAC or NAC + glutathione had no effects, but liposomes

containing alpha/gamma-tocopherol alone or with NAC significantly suppressed the

increase in lung hydroxyproline " .

Wow. The encapsulated glutathione had no effect in the lungs, and we know raw

glutathione is absorbed by lung tissue.

From:

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18257742?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

Thus my question for data. Still looking.

Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Duncan,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I need to ask you if this Glutathione is worth purchasing.

> > > > >

<http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catI

> > > > > d=17584>

> > > > >

http://wellnesspharmacy.com/shop.asp?action=details & inventoryID=149364 & catId

> > > > > =17584

> > > > >

> > > > > It comes in a spray bottle, could you please help me?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank-you,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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  • 5 months later...

Hi Everyone:

 

Our DAN doc. prescribed glutathione administered through a nebulizer for our 10

yo son.  My question is does this help when he has a cough/cold?

 

Thanks

Jeanne

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